shaheediyan Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 From Tapoban: Shastar in front of SGGSJ Author: nitn3m Date: 05-15-07 05:06 Why do we place Shastars in front of SGGSJ? Reply To This Message Re: Shastar in front of SGGSJ Author: Khalsaspirit Date: 05-15-07 09:16 Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh Khalsa jio, So that they can be easily available to those Sikhs who needs to attack other Sikhs in Gurudwara Sahib. Guru Mehar Karay Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Well Shastar is another form of Guru. We lower our heads at the Guru's feet, the Shastarah are usually arranged in a way to make it look like a lotus flower. The way nitn3m has made it out is that if a Sikh "acts wrongly" then shastar is there for taking out that other Sikh?! I dont know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Well Shastar is another form of Guru. We lower our heads at the Guru's feet, the Shastarah are usually arranged in a way to make it look like a lotus flower. The way nitn3m has made it out is that if a Sikh "acts wrongly" then shastar is there for taking out that other Sikh?! I dont know? It was a joke! :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I am not sure of the real reason but i guess weapons are adorned by Guru Sahib just like the previous gurus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 It was a joke! :roll: ok maybe I didnt read it that way. lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 This forum is funny, when you post something serious, the jokes don't stop, try and post something humorous and people turn serious! As we are on a serious vibe, I like veer Kam's answer, but I think more practically, the shastar probably represent the armoury of the Gur-ghar, for the defence of the Guru Ji, sangat and Gurdwara. I thought the original response was pretty funny (ironically)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Well my Gurdev told me that Shastar is like another form of Guru. Me thinking it was a serious topic I turned around and said what my Gurdev said to the akara. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 My understanding is that Isht Dev is manifest in 3 forms... Bani/Shabad Guru Shaster Guru (various references in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani, most notably Shaster Nam Mala) Khalsa Guru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jxxd Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Shastar belongs to Miri (social aspects) aspects of Sikhi. Piri means the spiritual aspects, the reason behind the origin of Sikhi (to realign people with correct spiritual path), Miri comes later, which aims to build a society where piri can fluorish and the knowledge can be transferred from generations to generations without any interference/oppression from rulers or powerful persons or groups. Piri is supreme and Miri is supporting piri. So when the shastars (weapons) are kept in front of the Guru Granth Sahib, it symbolises submitting/surrendering ourselves, our powers and our insecurities to Piri when it comes to spiritual aspects. We sit in sangat without having to bother what is happening elsewhere. Shastars are not kept as a means of readiness to fight, because there are no insecurities in sangat, the security of sangat is taken care by fellow Sikhs who stay outside on duty and carry shastars with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Shastar and Guru Granth Sahib Ji are also both bowed to as symbols of Akal as well. Shastar Dev. And we may only bow to God and Guru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Nihung Singhs believe Akaal Purakh, Gurbani and Shastars as their Divine-Beloveds. These are the three "Isht Dev" for Nihung Singhs. So if you bow before Akal, in the pressence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and Shastar Dev, you are bowing to all three Isht Dev. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guransh SIngh Posted Saturday at 04:56 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 04:56 PM "Guru granth jee maaneyo pragat gura ki deh" Guru granth sahib jee, as per hukam of dasve patshah should be regarded as the pragat saroop of the ten gurus. Thus parshaada bhog, kamarkasa karna, prakash is done in v shape saroop which is how one sits cross-legged. Therefore, as per maryada, since dasve patshaah used to adorn shastars and was shastardhaari, there should;d atleast be one shastar with saroop and if there is only one shastar, it has to be a kirpaan. This is the answer I got when I asked some behengems at nanaksar the question. Bhul Chuk Maaf jee Sat Kartar. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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