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    HisServant got a reaction from gsm52 in Best time for simran during amrit vela and evening   
    I’m not going to argue this any further but this doesn’t make any logical sense to me. But I would highly suggest either speaking from personal experience or at least having some type of gurbani source. Because it seems like you’re just making this up. 
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    HisServant got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Best time for simran during amrit vela and evening   
    I just don’t see why amrit vela on the other side of the planet would have an effect on someone who’s no where near that place. 
    From personal experience. Sounds starts blasting loud in both ears as soon as the sun goes down and stays that way until sunrise. I don’t know anything factually beyond that. 
    And then there’s the view that it’s always amrit vela when you’re always internally drinking amrit. I can’t speak more of that because I’m not at that point yet. 
    I would suggest taking some time out to do simran when the sun is down. But if it’s not a possibility for you, don’t make it an excuse not do simran. Just make sure you’re doing it. 
    I live in Canada and when it’s around midnight in Punjab, it’s around 1-2 pm here. That’s the point in the day where I can just barely hear the sounds and it’s also the time when the sun is the highest in the sky. 
    So just from personal experience I can’t see the correlation between punjab’s amrit vela and my own bhagti. Maybe that’s just me though. 
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    heh. heh.  lol.  I know.    It'd be foolish to try and tell someone what may happen after a slumber event. It's the beginning of new phases, and you will understand it better in the coming weeks. 
    Sometimes we forget our states of mind too easily. It may be a good idea to keep a log or journal of your daily events, experiences and emotions..  Just carry on in the same way with your studies and simran. 
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    if that is what I think it may be, then you'll know within coming days and next few weeks. 
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    HisServant got a reaction from Daas_ in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Night time is getting really good for me.
    Fell asleep listening to the sound last night. Every time I woke up I would hear the sound, feel drowsy and fall back asleep. Body felt extremely intoxicated. It was back and forth all night for at least 11 hours. I usually am not able to sleep more than 6. I had to literally pull myself up and even after that I kept knocking out. For a few moments even forgot who I was. I had to take a moment to remember my responsibilites. But it literally felt like I had woken up into a different world. 
    The most interesting part was it literally felt like I was dying or going unconcious every time I entered into sleep. I could watch myself go in and then I was aware that I was asleep. Although, I wasn't aware enough that I could control what was happening. 
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    HisServant got a reaction from Jageera in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Night time is getting really good for me.
    Fell asleep listening to the sound last night. Every time I woke up I would hear the sound, feel drowsy and fall back asleep. Body felt extremely intoxicated. It was back and forth all night for at least 11 hours. I usually am not able to sleep more than 6. I had to literally pull myself up and even after that I kept knocking out. For a few moments even forgot who I was. I had to take a moment to remember my responsibilites. But it literally felt like I had woken up into a different world. 
    The most interesting part was it literally felt like I was dying or going unconcious every time I entered into sleep. I could watch myself go in and then I was aware that I was asleep. Although, I wasn't aware enough that I could control what was happening. 
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Akashic Records   
    Yes, it is mostly crap that you'll find online.
    This is definitely possible. You CAN have the necessary info revealed to you, but only in bhagti as far as I'm aware.
    Whatever is necessary, and that which would help in further spiritual development can be revealed to you.  You can learn much more about yourself and purpose than you could from some other science.  It comes via sunn, because that's where it is stored. Every time you take entrees into chautha padh, whether momentarily or for long periods: you gain access to this information.    You're surti has already been into the zones of chauthapadh(outside of rajogun, tamogu and satogun), because of the levels you are at.    Only what is necessary is what you will need to know, -->This, is the primary fact you have to remember. It can take a while to start piecing the piece of the jigsaw together, but the universal play(Gobind) can begin to make more sense.
     
    Definitely helps motivate you further and I'm sure you will be able to.   I have a fair idea about myself and would say it's enough for me at this stage.  One can also realize the pre-ordained that may have been re-written due to ones bhagti (raising of surti-consciousness)  The knowledge is undeniably one strong reason for further growth in prem as well as correlating with hukam. It can give a real direction and purpose for one's life that can aid in developing maya dissociation skills.
    The shabad can be used, especially if you have naam/shabad. i.e. when you cross the 1st bhavsagar.  I have no idea if someone can obtain it in any other way, and quite frankly, I wouldn't be interested. There is no doubt, that ALL of us have practiced some degree of devotional worship in our previous lives-> reason for this janam. Gurbani says.."Pūrab janam bẖagaṯ kar ā▫e gur har har har har bẖagaṯ jama▫ī▫ā." (Because of devotional worship in my past incarnations, I have been born into this life. The Guru has inspired me to worship the Lord, Har, Har, Har, Har.)
    I will tell you what I know and understand in this matter as per truth in gurbani.  The main tip I'd suggest is to have pavan balanced. When pavan is balanced, your thoughts will be in hukam. Certain cluster thoughts can arise suddenly in this state whist samaoing into the shabad. (need to understand difference between cluster & sequential thoughts-->google or can elaborate). In the past, I followed this method with reference to sikhi's understanding of "Thoughts" .  Thoughts are maya (Rajo,tamo or sato) and are associated with elements pavan, fire and water.   My initial insights/awareness of this knowledge were in these states of hukam.   I can give you further details in pm about other forms of how this stuff can reveal itself. But you should get the idea, and you may have already been made aware but didn't realize it.
     
    You should also check this previous thread for more info ...
     
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    HisServant got a reaction from Lucky in Akashic Records   
    I have always wanted to experience the akashic records that people talk about. I've tried looking for information online but everything I come across tends to seem like bs and a bunch of people just talking about a "feeling". Questions relating to how many lives I've been through and previous karam related questions have always been on my mind. I want to see what my history has been. I also think it might be beneficial to tap into all of the knowledge that is stored there, it might help with bhagti in one way or another.
     
    Does anyone know how to get access to them? Can the inner sounds be used to get ourselves to those records? 
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    HisServant got a reaction from ragnarok in Akashic Records   
    I have always wanted to experience the akashic records that people talk about. I've tried looking for information online but everything I come across tends to seem like bs and a bunch of people just talking about a "feeling". Questions relating to how many lives I've been through and previous karam related questions have always been on my mind. I want to see what my history has been. I also think it might be beneficial to tap into all of the knowledge that is stored there, it might help with bhagti in one way or another.
     
    Does anyone know how to get access to them? Can the inner sounds be used to get ourselves to those records? 
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    That's just one of the insignias. This is if you follow the japna techniques and focus on the dhun. Eventually you should hear the shabd dhun and it is 24/7  an-din.
    This is just one nishanee if following this practice method. There's a couple of other nishanees that I'm aware of but I'm sure there will be many more in gurbani.
    Tricky part. What happens is that when you still the mind, you will hear it. Objective is to be aware of it whilst getting on with the day. It's an ongoing development process where one starts learning to conquer the mind.  There's lots of stages in this conquering starting of with deep khoj within and learning to distinguish between mann's mat and Gur-mat. ie. immediately identifying if your decision making was man-mat or gurmat.
     
    It's not from anyone in particular but from what I've summed up from various sources over the years, my own insights (aatmic gyan), experiences and gurbani. It seems to follow the flow of gurbani that I'm understanding.
    Naam being pargat is a very important milestone and breakthrough point. Gurbani clarifies this especially the significance  of being out of lakh chaurasi and getting naam amrit.
     
    If you like; I can give you an idea of the deeper explanations in pm, since they are not suitable for open forum, even though it's all in gurbani.  Let me know, but It may be a few days or so as I'll be busy with my 'body & spirit' building regimes!
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    HisServant reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Oh so in your view Naam is realized when the Anhad Shabad is heard all the time?
    You are saying one should try to listen to the internal anhad shabad all the time?
    And doing so would require one to meditate all the time. One would have to constantly be alert to their Jyoti and be relaxed in order to hear it.
    I see what you are saying.
    And now I see where @HisServant is coming from.
    Did you come to this insight yourself? or was it recommended by another Gursikh or Mahapurakh?
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    HisServant reacted to Sat1176 in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Very inspiring @HisServant Your definitely on a roll fella.
     
    I have recently heard that sometimes this loud sound which blasts at you at random times when you talking can be Waheguru communicating with you. You will have to analyse the conversation your were having with the other person when it happened. Sometimes Waheguru blasts you for saying something you should not have said or vice versa. He could be saying stop what you are doing and bring your attention to me. If the sound was so loud it stopped your conversation then you have your answer. This is maybe a skill you will have to learn to master for yourself. Notice the next time it happens during the day. If you doing or saying something which you should not.
    For example sometimes you maybe sharing spiritual knowledge with someone who is not ready to receive it or is not to be given that gyan and therefore it comes on right there in the middle of the conversation. This is Waheguru telling you off!
    Next time you maybe doing simran  and it comes on, this Waheguru communicating to you in a positive way.
    Either way Waheguru is directing your attention on him for that moment in time.
     
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    The energy generated from super positive sangat and the cloud of divine spirit around you can certainly kick you up a few notches. I've encountered this a few times and it leaves you feeling elevated without having made too much effort.
    These sounds should become one, so to say.
    I think the intentions and pre-conditioning of mind really plays a big role here. I wouldn't advise you continue searching for the same sound again,  the bell, chimta, drums etc.
    I remember that I'd always say to myself "OK, got it,..heard that now.. what next ?"  For me, I was able to get through these until they become a single sound. eko naam, eko shabad.    It may help if you try and disciple your inner mind in this way. If you can, then it can be very beneficial in your own self-development because you may awaken to the hidden depths of your mann.
    As I always say; listen, acknowledge and then move on.    Don't worry too much about them because they won't go anywhere. You hear them at first, then they fade and become one. You follow that one and then you will hear them again when you are at the darbar. There, they are called panj shabad.    Anand sahib bani says  "vajay panch shabad tit ghar subhagay" At that stage, you're completely out of Kaal's desh (maya) and in chautha pad. The 5 dhuts will be left outside the door behind you (panj dhut tudh vas kithay kaal kantakh mariya).
    I said some time ago; the shabads are kind of preliminary, as if  heard earlier as nishanees and signs of progress. Sometimes, they call these pavan shabads to differentiate them from the panj shabads that are heard in the darbar as opposed to outside the darbar.
     
    as @BhagatSingh suggested above, "stay chill as if it's nothing"  I'd probably add, "wait for what's next?"
    Thunder like "gobind gajay"   Lightening like light and then the all cooling rain of amrit. Can be felt on every single rom of your body as if it's raining. Gurbani mentions a few of these "amrit varkhai,.. amrit varsai" shabads. 
     
    ^^Next time^^   Just let it be and let the experience take your consciousness. Give your mann and mat to satguru.  The first time this happened,  I had the immediate first 2 lines of the below shabad come into head. "ja-o tao prem khelan ka cha-o, sir dhar tali gali meri a-o".  I immediately put my joined hands on my laps as if in open hath-jor mudra pose, akin to giving an offering. Then, visualized/imagined putting all my consciousness/surti to the Guru and let him do whatever. What happened next, was completely out of this realm.
    ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ॥
    Ja▫o ṯa▫o parem kẖelaṇ kā cẖā▫o.
    If you desire to play this game of love with Me,
    ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ ॥
    Sir ḏẖar ṯalī galī merī ā▫o.
    then step onto My Path with your head in hand.
    ਇਤੁ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪੈਰੁ ਧਰੀਜੈ ॥
    Iṯ mārag pair ḏẖarījai.
    When you place your feet on this Path,
    ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਾਣਿ ਨ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੨੦॥
    Sir ḏījai kāṇ na kījai. ||20||
    give Me your head, and do not pay any attention to public opinion. ||20||
     
    I've heard that too or may have seen the same video. I can say, that rom rom makes things much easier and that's why I'm always encouraging it. Some people can get it pargat early on, whereas others get it later. 
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    HisServant reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    That's a sign of a good meditation session.
    Your voice gets deeper as well, and starts resonating from your stomach.
    That happened to me a few times during sleep. The first couple times, it caught me off guard, and like you, I started questioning it and it ended when I did.
    The first time I got too scared, the other times the fear went away but the excitement was still there.
    That excitement was preventing me from Clarifying this experience.
    But I didn't know that at the time.
    So it didn't happen for a while, and during that time I found a video by this guy called Rich2150x
    Rich talked about how when strong turbulent vibrations come, then you have to just stay calm and not get too excited about it and just go "hmm" as if its nothing and simply take note of it in a very detached objective manner.
    So then when it happened again, I remembered to stay chill as if it was nothing.
    I stayed calm and chanted Ram.
    Then something special happened.
    But what made the vibrational storm manageable was watching it with a non-excited, non-questioning, non-fearful, detached, objective eye.
    This is also applicable to emotional storms.
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    HisServant got a reaction from Jageera in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Thank you @BhagatSingh and @Lucky as usual. I don't want to post too many updates so I think this may be the last for a while - a lot of things have just been happening all of a sudden. I went to a full day simran jaap at someones house the other day - a lot of people with progress were there so I think they might have triggered something. 
    But anyways - as of yesterday - I have begun to be able to get the chimta noise going close to 24/7. Sometimes I forget about it and it turns off but as soon as I remember it, the sound starts again. I was even able to keep it going in a loud busy langar hall yesterday. However, there are still occasional moments where I struggle. The sunk (conch shell) noise, on the other hand, is still only a nighttime phenomenon. I was able to hear it during the day today in a quiet library, but once I stepped out it was gone again.
    It's only been a few days but the impact is insane. I used to be a fast talker, but all of a sudden I'm so relaxed. I'm talking slower and quieter. There are absolutely no tensions or worries about anything. 
    Last night was interesting. I was on the phone with someone and I started hearing hard gusts of wind and thunder in both ears. This same sound came a few times in the past but it was followed by a very loud blast. So I have been wondering if that blast is coming again. The last few times it happened I wasn't able to handle it. And I remember @Sat1176 also posted about it one time.
    @Lucky is there anything we should do if that blast were to ever come back? 
    I think I remember Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala talking about this sound and saying that a light would be produced after the sound. The last time it happened I remember there were flashes of light (like a lightning storm) and there were loud thunder noises and my entire body felt like I was going down a roller coaster (including physical sensations on the skin). But it was so momentary. It ended very quickly because I started questioning what was happening. 
    I also think (in the same video) he mentioned that if rom rom isn't pargat you won't be able to handle the experience. But again, this is just based on memory. I can't remember which video it was or what was exactly said.
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    HisServant got a reaction from Sat1176 in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Thank you @BhagatSingh and @Lucky as usual. I don't want to post too many updates so I think this may be the last for a while - a lot of things have just been happening all of a sudden. I went to a full day simran jaap at someones house the other day - a lot of people with progress were there so I think they might have triggered something. 
    But anyways - as of yesterday - I have begun to be able to get the chimta noise going close to 24/7. Sometimes I forget about it and it turns off but as soon as I remember it, the sound starts again. I was even able to keep it going in a loud busy langar hall yesterday. However, there are still occasional moments where I struggle. The sunk (conch shell) noise, on the other hand, is still only a nighttime phenomenon. I was able to hear it during the day today in a quiet library, but once I stepped out it was gone again.
    It's only been a few days but the impact is insane. I used to be a fast talker, but all of a sudden I'm so relaxed. I'm talking slower and quieter. There are absolutely no tensions or worries about anything. 
    Last night was interesting. I was on the phone with someone and I started hearing hard gusts of wind and thunder in both ears. This same sound came a few times in the past but it was followed by a very loud blast. So I have been wondering if that blast is coming again. The last few times it happened I wasn't able to handle it. And I remember @Sat1176 also posted about it one time.
    @Lucky is there anything we should do if that blast were to ever come back? 
    I think I remember Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala talking about this sound and saying that a light would be produced after the sound. The last time it happened I remember there were flashes of light (like a lightning storm) and there were loud thunder noises and my entire body felt like I was going down a roller coaster (including physical sensations on the skin). But it was so momentary. It ended very quickly because I started questioning what was happening. 
    I also think (in the same video) he mentioned that if rom rom isn't pargat you won't be able to handle the experience. But again, this is just based on memory. I can't remember which video it was or what was exactly said.
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    HisServant reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Indeed. 🙂
    Any examples? Maybe it is mentioned but not in english translation or something.
    This reminds me of Shin Zen Young, who talks about this type of meditation a lot.
    He says you can apply this "identify and clarify" technique to many stimulus, like sights and feelings as well as sound frequencies.
    You simply try to go in there and break the experience down into smaller mangeable chunks that you can clarify those chunks via your attention (like how Gheo is made by clarifying butter thorugh heat).
    Your Consciousness acts like heat that clarifies your experience and turns it into gheo.
     
    A worldly example -  let's say you are angry.
    You look at the components of the anger, you identify the feelings in your body, the inner dialogue and frustration/exhaustion components.
    Where is the anger located in your body? Feel it there.
    Notice your blood coursing through the veins, the energy of the anger present in the body.
    What other feelings arise with it? Take note of them individually.
    Is there frustration? What is the quality of that?
    is there jealousy? What is the quality of that?
    It is a very powerful to meditate on anger in this way, to purify it into Pure Energy.
    Bhakti / Shakti
     
    1. Pay attention.
    2. Break things down into their fundamental components.
    3. Notice the qualities of those components.
    4. Refine those qualities by Clarifying them with your Attention.
    5. Profit
     
    For those who want to know more about this technique or looking for a scientific approach to meditation, I recommend checking out Shin Zen Young's youtube channel called - ExpandContract.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNetIhxFinw
     
    It is quite powerful and Guru Nanak Dev ji did make it quite easy.
    Those who start earning spiritual wealth, once they get over the initial hurdle, they earn more and more with the inspiration that is available in Gurbani, quite easily.
    What do you mean by this?
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Ok. This sounds all good. Funny thing is that I had these cricket like sounds come twice. They were there in early stages and then re-emerged in later stages. Must have been some blocked energy channels(sukham) that needed re-activating.  We all have different areas that need addressing at separate times and that's why people experience sounds in differing patterns.
    These are also very good and I sort of understand what they are (from my own experiences).  It's what they lead to and what can follow along the same path, that is of importance.  I can't say much about this on open forum due to a few reasons, but I think I gave some hints in pm not long ago.  
    You should raise your surti(consciousness) by continuing simran to get to next levels. When this happens, you will find more nishanees/avasthas in gurbani. This is always the final verification and re-assurance from guru. As the gurbani rapport builds up "Guru maneyo granth" starts becoming apparent. If I don't find my answer in gurbani, then I know my experience wasn't part of the path or avastha.
    This takes practice and it's certainly possible. As @BhagatSingh veer (below) said above; you can meditate on it. 
    The anhad will be 24/7 when pargat. You can tune into it any time, any place. 
    I practiced a few weeks by using some earplugs and blocking out everything external.  I did 2-3 hour sessions, three times per 24hr-day (about 9hr/day total).  Session at amrit vela and at least 2 or more sittings during the day. I was able to amp up and start differentiating between the frequencies. You can start identifying several different  frequency tones and it will make you appreciate the numerous raags in gurbani.     I recommend the "hearos" brand ear plugs, since they were the most comfortable and strong at 33 decibal noise reduction.    The ear plugs certainly helped to intensify the shabad during those few weeks. I don't need to use them now unless it's noisy in the house or the street, but the magnitude continues to increase and change. 
    The shabad-dhun is very powerful and its not just a dhun. It can guide you in the most unexplainable ways if you let your self be the chela.  Along with gurbani, you will come to realize just how easy Guru Nanak ji made it.
    Shabad gets your naam pargat and naam itself becomes the shabad. That's your direct passport, visa and flight to get to EK ,..hence ✈️Nanak Naam Jahaz hai ✈️
     
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    HisServant reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    I am not sure if you are working closely with @Lucky bhaji's methodology.
    If you are then that's good, you should probably go with it.
     
    But I'll share my thoughts on this, in case it helps you or anyone else reading -
     
    What is your goal with meditation?
    What are you trying to accomplish in the long run?
    What do you want out of it now? Tomorrow? Next week? Next year? Next 5 years?
    Think about this seriously.
    Because it is important to have a goal with things that you want to pursue seriously.
     
    If your goal is to try to increase the volume of these sounds, the Shabad sounds, to the point where you can hear them above the volume of Running Water, then put your attention on the sounds as much as possible.
    Is that what you want to do? Because that is something you can certainly do.
    I knew a client who could make the Shabad sound really loud, with such high energy.
    He called it the inner Om.
    He said he could make it sound louder than the loudest concert.
    He had reached really high energy states.
    I have also done meditations with the goal of making these louder by putting my attention in them and amping their volume up.
    That is something you can meditate on and with.
     
    Now... there is a difference between these Shabad sounds, and regular sounds, such as that of Running Water, as @Lucky points out in above post.

    When you meditate, you pull back from the sounds of the world and then you head these inner sounds.
    When you stop the monologue running in the mind, then you hear these inner sounds.
     
    But ultimately even these Shabad sounds, is also an Experience that Consciousness (Atma/Parmatma) is having, just like your other experience of Running Water sounds or the experience of internal monologue.
        These Shabad sounds can be called Anhad Shabad because they are Anhad from the perspective of the World. They are An-Had, Un-Struck, they don't have a source in the world.
    But they are Had, struck, from the perspective of Consciousness.
    From Absolute Consciousness perspective, they are struck by Absolute Consciousness.
    They are coming from Consciousness, just like any other sound from the world.
    So from the perspective from Consciousness, these are not utlimately Anhad.
    That's why I say that ultimately even these Shabad sounds, is also an Experience that Consciousness is having.
    Ultimately Consciousness is Anhad because there is nothing prior to it, nothing strikes to create Consciousness.


    So how do you go from these Shabad sounds to Consciousness (Atma/Parmatma)?
    How do you listen to the Anhad Shabad that is behind the Anhad Shabad?
    What I would do in this situation is to try to keep my focus on the space in which the Shabad sounds are arising.
    Think who is listening to Anhad Shabad, and pay attention to that One, who is the space in which you experience the unstruck sounds.
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Bhagat ji, I agree and know exactly what you're saying.    
    My mention of "roop, na rekh, na rang" as per gurbani was tailored to address HisServant's concern and query onmwhether he was en-route to seeing the parkash/presence of brahm everywhere and 3rd eye/drib dristee.  There is a difference between what forms and shapes you see as per tre-guna maya and what one can see as they start tearing the veil of illusion (Kiv kurhai tutai pal).
    I can kinda understand why practitioners warn students about "akaars" and how they can become one's own hurdles.  That topic is quite an in depth discussion that would need it's own thread, but in short, and as per my own experiences and obstacles.... @HisServant, is experiencing something quite similar to something I had a few years ago.   I went around the long route via my own hindrances, but the main answer was in gurbani all the while...the "shabad". The shabad starts off as very faint, but with time and simran, it gets to higher frequency/vibration and becomes anhad naad.
    Guru Nanak ji advises the "shabad".  the anhad shabad.  if you can hear the anhad, which HisServant can,.. then he should put dhyian there to establish the connection and dristee will automatically follow.
    After Guru nanak ji explained the shabad to the siddhas, (Shabad guru surat dhun chela),  he was asked...
    ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਹੋਤੋ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਕਾਈ ਤਾ ਸਬਦਿ ਕਹਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਈ ॥
    Rūp na hoṯo rekẖ na kā▫ī ṯā sabaḏ kahā liv lā▫ī.
    When there was no form or shape, then how could anyone lovingly focus on the Shabad?
    Remember, that before any akaar, before creation, before duality, before "KAR" as in Ek-Ong-Kar,, Nirnakar was just the EK singularity. The "ong' resided in the un-manifest Almighty. He uttered the "word" and creation was made. (ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ, Kīṯā pasā▫o eko kavā▫o.)
    Guruji says...
    ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਤੀ ਤਉ ਅਕੁਲੀਣਿ ਰਹਤਉ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
    Rūp na rekẖ▫i▫ā jāṯ na hoṯī ṯa▫o akulīṇ rahṯa▫o sabaḏ so sār.
    When there was no form or shape or social class, then the Shabad, in its essence, resided in the unmanifest Lord.
    Therefore, to get back to the singular Ek,.. to remove the 'kurai tutai pal',..  if one can hear the 'shabad', then that's what they need to attune to.  To start seeing and connecting with the dristi of seeing brahm in the air around us, you need to tune into the shabad. 
     
    as advised earlier to HisServant,  the important recommendation is
     
     
     
     
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    HisServant reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Focus on the light and it should get still. If it doesn't stay steady, it could also be awakening of 3rd eye dristi. Either way, it's most probably the route to see parkash of nirankar.   However, you must try and listen to anhad to get the full connection.    If all this is happening whilst you are trying rom rom technique, then it's real good. It may all fall into place in an instant.    Must continue working and slogging at it with prem.
    Shouldn't really be a shape or figure. Roop, na rekh, na rang.   No form, shape or color.   Again, if you focus on anhad dhun, it should still the mind further for better connection and dristi.
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    HisServant got a reaction from Sat1176 in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Two new experiences 
    1) Been seeing a flash of light that originates from above. 
    2) Seeing a colourless type figure very occasionally and briefly. 
    Not sure if either of these are parkash. It’s still very early and they aren’t consistent yet. I will update if there is any decent progression. 
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    HisServant got a reaction from Sat1176 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Thought I'd post a quick update since it's been a while. I've started hearing a conch shell and a chimta type noise. The peace felt from it is insane. I cannot put it into words. My entire body just relaxes. Only happens at night/early morning and the mind needs to be extremely quiet. Baby steps but slowly moving forward. 
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    HisServant got a reaction from ragnarok in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Thought I'd post a quick update since it's been a while. I've started hearing a conch shell and a chimta type noise. The peace felt from it is insane. I cannot put it into words. My entire body just relaxes. Only happens at night/early morning and the mind needs to be extremely quiet. Baby steps but slowly moving forward. 
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    HisServant reacted to Sat1176 in Meditation for beginners   
    Nothing complex about it.
    Sit comfortably and relaxed.
    close eyes
    say out the words Wahe Guru, with slight pause between the wahe and guru. Don't go straight into mental meditation. Jap it out aloud and listen to the sound of your own voice as you say each part of the Gurmantar.
    the goal is not to let the mind wonder but remain focused on the sound of your voice so it listens to each repetition. 
    If you see it wondering off or realise after its gone bring it back and start listening again.
    very well explained here
     
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