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(Poor attempt by me.please ingnore any mistake and correct me if I go wrong) VAANI OF TULSI SAHIB: Here He explains the death story of a person.He writes ,when a man dies ,how his soul leaves the body and the souls who take shelter of True Guru, are saved by his purkh. Here is complete description of how surat gets pulled at death arrival.And how saint saves his loving soul. Really a very interesting reading! PART 1: SANT JEEV KI BIPAT SHURAAVAE, KARMI JEEV JAGAT Ko CHAAVAE : Says, it's a marvellous ritual that saint wants to emancipate the soul from the prison of chauraasi,and wants him to reach his realm,where is no birth,no death ,no pain,no joy.But that unfortunate soul denies the supreme gift and just wants to stick with worldly pleasures.A saint wants him to reach the highest realm 'SACHKHAND,but he wants to get trapped again and again. JAA KO FAL CHAURAASI MAHI, BHIN BHIN TOHE KAHO SUNAI: Heart is sikh and The writer is guru.This is a discourse between a guru and sikh.so,Tulsi sahib is instructing heart that satpurkh wants to save the soul,but due to his mistake,he is dying and taking birth over continous intervals of time. Now he warns the soul.he says o soul listen!I describe you the pain of death and birth. JAB JEEV NIKARR DEH DARSAU,VOH SMAJ KI SMAJ SUNAO: When soul leaves the body,and pain he suffers ,I describe you.It's the description of that painful time. NIKAR JEEV TAN SHUTTAE BHAI,JAB KI BAATAEN kAHU BUJAi SIMATT AKASH BHAAS JAB AAVE ,JAB NARRI mEIN SEET SMAAVAE: When time of death comes,soul gets incorporated.Hands and feet get cold and nerves stop working.slowly,entire body gets cold and soul comes behind the eyes.This is the description of that time. JAS RAB ASAT HOYE ANDHEYAARA ,PRAan PATI TAN TUK TUK THAARA JAS RAB BHAAS GAYE UJEYASI ,THUk THUK PRAAN BHASAE TAN BAASI When day starts,birds and animals go to their works for searching food and come back to their shelters at night-fall.In same manner,when death arrives ,the soul starts leaving the lower body.Now praan and swaas unites.when death comes,then both get seperated. NIKSE SWAAS BHASKRAN PRANA ,YAIRAE SIMATT KAHO KAHAN SAMAANA: Now he explains that where The ray of PRAN or jeev atma will go. JO VO THAAV JON SAE THAAI ,DASWA DWAR BRAHM KE MAHI: The soul wants to travel through tenth gate,and wants to merge with BRAHM,coz brahm is master of this trilok.This heart is his part.pran belongs to brahm,but the soul belongs to satpursh.pran can't cross the akash. SURAJ BRAHM DWAR DASS MAHI,uNSE KiRAN AAND mAI AAI: Says ray of jeev atma came from brahm.Then moved from brahm to sehas dal kawal.then from sehas dal kawal to navel region Then from navel,the entire world originated. KIRAN PAANCH TATT PRAN kHAYA,TATT MIL PAANCH AKASH JAGAYA: When ray of atma did strike on five prans ,then five elements originated-air,land,fire,water,sky. ATAM SABB MEIN BHAAS PARKASA,SoYI BHAAS KIYA TAN BAASA MARG BHAAS JOYII MAGG AaYA ,TARAK TALUVE RAHH SMAYA: This ray of atma crossed the way below the brain and came in eyes ,then from eyes to navel region.Then from navel to entire body.now,from the path it came,from that same path we have to cover our journey. JAYEO PRATIBInB PARAE JAL JAYI ,AISAE BHAAS NAABH KE MAHI: Like the reflex of sun srikes the water,in same manner ray of atma came in navel,then to entire body. NAAB TEJ TAN MAHE SAMAANA ,ROM ROM BADAN ME JAANa: Like,when ray of light becomes sunshine after striking the earth,in same manner that ray passes in rom rom of entire body after striking th navel. BHAAS TEJ CHETAN BHAII KAYA,YEH BHiTTAR MEIn BHARAN BATAYA: When,rooh(atma/soul) came in rom rom ,then man stood up and started working. JIN GHAT SAIL KARI kAYA Ki ,BiTAR bHAID KAHEY JOYI BHAAKI: Now tulsi sahib says,who travelled the higher realms by leaving nine gates,well knows how to travel upward and how to come back from there. UPAR KI KEHNI NAHE MAANU,AnDAR UDHAY HOaye GHAT BHANU: Says,we are ready to abide the sayings of person who travelled inward,but not ready to abide the sayings of ones who didnt make any inward journey. ANDAR BHAAN UDAEY BINA,BHITARR KI KA KAHEN BAIN BACHAN CHUnTHAY kaHeY,BIN ANDAR NEH AEIN: If inner eye has not opened,no light has illuminated and has not travelled the inner realms ,then such person has not travelled inward.one who has not travelled yet,how can he take pictures of inward scenario? BRAHM JEEV KRIN PRAN KAHAYa ,YeH KAYA MEIN BHAAKH BATAYA THEEK THOUR AR THAM THIKANA ,ANDR KOI PARKH PEHCHANA YEH SAB BAIN BADAN MEIN BHAAKHI ,SUNN KAR SAAD DAIYAIGE SAAKHI: Says,whatever I'm talking about,is inward conversation.The saints who travellwd,will abide my sayings and other will deny it. NIKRE PRAN BADAN SE JAAVe,JAHe SAMAY kI sANT SUNAVe: Says,when pran leaves the body,now saint talks about it. JAAKA ABB DHRISHTANT sUNAO,NAKAl MAHE MEIN ASAL dIKHAU: Says now he describes the duplicate copy of the real inward reality. JAISE PADANG GAGAN CHARR JAAVEY,DORI DAET DAET bHARR JAAVE JAB DORI VEH KHAINCH KHILAARI,KHAInCH DOR BHOOMI PAR DAARI: Like,a string can control the flying kite and It flies as much as a child leaves the string,In same manner soul can go upward and can come back with Inward spiritual practice. SImATTI DOR KIYA UNN PiNDA,YEH BIDD SURAT KHINCHAE BrAHMANDA ROM ROM SE TEJ KHINCHAANA ,SIMmATT NAABI MEIN AANA: Atma comes in navel region from feet. NAABI TEJ SE BHAAS UDHAYA ,JAB TAN MADD TULAVE AAYa Then from navel,comes in palate(above the eyes) TALUVAY SE JAB DOR KHINCHANI,JAB TATT PAAaNCH ANDD MEIN AANi: These are 4 parts of body-ANDD,PINDD,BRAHMAND and SACHKHANd.Now soul Leaves pindd(from feet to palate),and travels through andd,brahmandd and reaches sachkhand. KHAINCHAY DORR PRAN INCH AVEY ,KAL KAAN PAR AASAN LAaVEY: When soul leaves,then pran leaves too.For eg: when someone leaves a house,nd if there is a tree,then birds too leave their shelters . TO BE CONTINUED (Bhul chuk maaf)

I tried a lot to find out the shabad.Since,the book is in punjabi,so couldn't find english version of shabad.The writing is really spectacular,very informative,so wanted to share with you all.Due to a very busy time schedule,it's quite difficult for me to type all in english.But I'll try to type it here in english.So this is a poor attempt from me.Please correct me if I go wrong.

One day,I was a reading a shabad in a book.There was complete description of death arrival and whatever soul experiences after death.It was mentioned that if a soul had a true Guru in his life,then That true guru comes to save the soul from mouth of kaal.Guru doesnt let him caught by jamms.But a person without Guru,gets caught by kaal and there he suffers the severe pains of death.There was complete detail regarding death of a person.Will try to find it out and will post it here.

Wow! Great efforts! Feeling little embarrased.LOL.I'm doing NOTHING almost nothing to stay healthy. Hope ur posts help me by providing me an inspiration. Gur fateh!

Fear of death!!!! Waheguru! Perhaps I know (a little bit), about the feeling of death arrival.Don't going too much personal,I would share that I had a demo of post death time for two times.But the good thing is that,Such experiences or u say dreams have driven me into more bhagti.At having one ,I was little upset.I just cried and asked guru ji that Am I too bad for having such worst experience.I was feeling so unfortunate and was asking myself again and again that what bad karams I had conducted for having such punishment.but later,I realised no,that was a sign of guru sahib's kirpa in an indirect way.But still I dont understand the proper meaning.But now,I almost dont scare of death.One should always remind Guru Ji in his heart .I think, to know about the post death time and to overcome it's fear is must to progress on our spiritual path.U never know at what time we get to leave this body,so remembering akal purkh every second is worthwhile. Ant kaal narayan simrae aisi chinta meh jeh marae(At very last moment,one who thinks of the lord and dies in such thoughts) Badhath tilochan te nar mukta peetanbar vaa kae ridhae basaee (Says trilochan,that man shall be liberated, and lord shall abides in his heart) Gur fateh!

I can't say much ,but really listening of this one is another guru sahib's kirpa(as I'm having some coincidences from past few days)to drive me in much and much bairaag.just want to cry as much loud as I can. May be it's a coincidence,but not sure. May waheguru ji gives me clear indication. Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj!! Dhan Guru Ramdass patsah!!

You're absolutely right.As per your suggestion to have some movement,I want to add that my abdomen area starts pumping in beginning of my abhyaas with waheguru recitation going in mind .but after some while,It stops.But I'll try to use my tongue too.I tried ur suggestion just right back by rolling tongue on roof.I did it!Hope to do it more properly with daily practice . Gur fateh!

Yes,you're right!.But in my view ,Spirituality is the main reason for a sikh to live by.Yes,one sikh must always be ready to fight against injustice,but question is are you wise enough to understand the meaning of Injustice? Fighting for injustice or just biasing over a useless topic to claim this is right or this is wrong,are totally two different aspects. and I think here satkiran ji needs to change her view.How can one do justice over choice of jathas or taksals and about their views on particular matters like so called this misogyny.The topic ends over one line,that both organisations are totally sikh supporters and abide the teachings of guru granth sahib ji,so obviously it's clear.SGGS ji gives equal status to women like men,so I dont think that one needs to debate more. Infact Guru sahib has always instructed us to focus on our kamai rather than to waste/corrupt our time,buddhi on such wordly majhabi discussions. Please dont take me wrong.That's just my opinion.

LOL.No,your theories are much better. You're right that verbal jaap puts a dramatic effect on one's spiritual progress.But personally,I'm not doing verbal jaap.Actually I can't.I usually keep praying that waheguru ji shows his kirpa upon me in form of verbal jaap. But every time,I'm silent! Hope my throat starts working!

Personally,I don't use my tongue or jaws much during simran.almost negligible.I mean I do simran in mind.I've never done simran in loud voice..

I really dont know how to answer your question.Sounds are tiiiii tiiii type.kinda sounda of insects.some time ,its like some thing is passing by my ears.during some moments,a very high pitch voice with tiiiiiiiiii rings in my ears.but this ring is just only for an instant.

How can you judge any maryada? Who are we to put our silly comments towards any jatha or taksal.Each organisation is started by great mahapurakhs of time,whether it's AKJ or DDT , when we look at kamai jeevan of these great men,we are not even equal to charan of these mahapurkhs.So,who are we to judge? Please justify the statement.On what kamai or Rabbi gyan one can say such rubbish about any samparda. Such topics are really propagating wrong message of sikhi.I dont belong to any particular jatha.But I respect AKJ a lot coz of their high spiritual vichaars.So ,same I respect DDT or any jatha.After reading the entire thread(which I did nt want to),I must say SuCH DISCUSSION is ridiculous.Who are we to involve sants and to put our silly views about them.How can one comment about BAba Nand singh ji's principles.He was a GREATtttt mahapurkh,so It was their asool.So one shouldnt put their silly comments about any mahapurkh,unless he has such great buddhi or kamai equivalent to brahmgianis. Just keep in mind.We are moorkh jeevas.We are not even wise enough to recognise any saint.so dont disrespect any saint even by mistake or in anjaanpuna. "SANT KE DOKHI KO DARGEH MILAE SAJAE"

Yes I read that On right side leads to more progress.I'm little worried as sounds are much audible in left ear.Yes,sounds are in right ear too,but not loud.Only when focus on right side,then gets louder,but on left are easily audible without much focussing.So does it mean that one is still too far for naam shabad?

IMHO,Dastar is a wonderful maryada commanded by guru ji.According to my experience as a woman,Dastar should be on every "SiKh's" head irrespective of gender.Here Sikh(in my opinion/view) does not mean one who is only just born in sikh religion,but the one who is looking for his purkh and walking on spiritual path to merge with one nirankar.So,as It's suggested by all mahapurkhs of time to cover our heads during meditating/simran/bhagti.But a true SIKH(not just by religion) has no time limits for bhagti or his attempts to meet the purkh.His each and every second is contributed for nirankar and is passed in loving memory of akal purkh.Whether he is working,sleeping,walking,eating,his mind somewhere ,keeps reciting praises of nirankar and is looking for his darshan.So Isn't he doing bhagti then? Ofcourse this is bhagti too! So shouln't his head be covered? Ofcourse yes!! So this is the reason one should wear dastar that he doesnt need to get worried to cover his head.It's always covered. Beside I think If a woman is wearing dastar ,then she is much socially safe especially in India.No any guy has guts to even look with dirty eyes towards a sikhni.Guru sahib gave woman a look equivalent to man.A divine saroop protects her.so dastar on a woman head just represents a divine hand /security upon her. But still choice is her.I too dont wear a dastar.But yes a sikh should wear it.I wouln't say MUST.

And what If one hears sounds from both ears,but more prominent sounds from left ear?

I'm too a sikh girl,nd been using this forum.Personally I've never thought about such kinda things like which jatha or taksal is dominating here or what's the personal views of anyone towards any jatha.I feel heartly disappointed,when I read such things.I mean What is jatha?? When one says he/she is a sikh ,then no question arises towards what jatha or taksal he /she is motivated.Once,I read a thread in this forum ,where I read some critical attacks on particular Jathas.I was deeply disappointed.I at once closed the thread,and yes there were tears in my eyes,that how could a sikh can attack other sikh's principles.From that day,I decided to never look on such threads.Yes,I 've never looked or popped in any thread beside Meditation threads.In general discussion ,sometime I just read the headings of threads.But I must say that Meditation threads are really spiritually uplifting and one gets answers of many questions he is looking for.People posting their are really gurmukh's.So I suggest you to not leave the forum.I'm not using any forum other than this one ,cause I think we shouldnt waste our time on forums.Just stay here and keep popping in meditation forum.I've read ur posts, and I must say that you're a spiritual soul.so,sikhi is not all about jathas or such kinda things.Sikhi is a straight path to meet our purkh irrespective of our worldy stature. Beside,here is no difference between men or women.Who can better understand about power of a woman beside a sikh? Hope you find your way. God bless! Gur fateh!

Yes!!Exactly!! Beautiful!! Thanks for sharing!!

Today,I was talking to my grandfather about spirituality.My grandfather's dad was a very gurmukh person.He did a lotttt of kamai in his life.So,we were admiring their efforts and principles.Then I asked my grandmom about their bhagti life.She told me that she did a lot of meditation.She told me that pita ji(with respect) used to do saas graas.They used to get up at 12 am ,then did nitnem and all meditation etc.Pita ji could do nitnem standing on his one leg,etc etc.When they were sleeping,their navel was in an automatic mode reciting guroo in a very loud voice.So,I'm very excited at this point.I somewhere read that It's not a good sign.dunno much about it.so what does it mean?

I want to share my one more experience that I had this very morning.As I shared earlier,I've been experiencing such things.So,I usually scare to meditate.I've no problem when my eyes are open,but once I close my eyes and try to meditate, I get scared and then can't progress further. This morning,I got up at 2:45 am.Then ,I started nitnem at 3:20 am.I did it by 4:30.There is a doubt in my mind that after 4 am I've no reason to scare of.I mean I said to myself that whatever had happened was always around 2 am,so nothing can happen now.So I was little freed of that fear.I started listening Simran audio.I was feeling very tired and sleepy too.so,I laid straight on my back.But still I was trying to focus on simran.within few seconds,I lost all senses from by body.I somehow knew that I'm sleeping,but I couldn't control anything.I couldn't move my body.It was without any sense for almost 5 min.I tried so hard,but couldn't.Then I felt veryyyy strong force pulling my body upwards.I was resisting it sooo hard.Again I was on bed,then again force pulled up.I was in that up down movement for 2-3 times.My mind knew that I'm lying and it's my body that is trying to come out of it.Then I was like I did it.I saw my room's roof.There was smokey bubbles kinda airy ones all around the room.Then I tried to get out of bed,but still couldn't move my body.Then I realised its still something wrong.I'm still trapped.My mind was working,but my body was not.Then I was like I'm trapped.I wanted to cry and call my mom,but couldn't.This all happened for about 10 min.Then I started calling Guru Ramdass Ji in my mind.I was reciting waheguru and was calling Guru sahib.Then again I tried to move my body but couldnt.In meanwhile,I felt like its over now and I'm walking around my room and my eyes are open.But still I wasn't.It was a very weird and frustating feeling.Then,I called guru sahib again and made a prayer in mind,Guru sahib I'm in vain.Why don't u help me.I'm calling you again and again.But still I was struggling.Then ,I felt kinda touchy sensation around my right arm.I was resisting it and was calling guru sahib again and again in a very anger mood.I felt that My body is no longer mine.It was lying and was veryyy heavy.Then I opened eyes I was still in doubt whether it's over or not.Then I realised yes it is.But I was still in a shock.After 5 min,I could get normal.I saw time,It was 5:40 am.It was a very long experience that happened to me this very morning.I'm writing cause I want to share as it's just recently happened and evrything is well in my mind.Now,I 'm in great eager to know the meaning of all this.I really want to know what it is.Why this all is happening to me?Is it a good sign or bad sign? What is the meaning of it? Why I'm scaring? Why I scare to close my eyes and to meditate? I really want help! Gut fateh!

If there is much pain ,stiffness nd difficulty in moving ,then it may lead to arthritis. If beside pain,there is fever,redness or swelling ,then it may be joint infection.So need to cure it with antibiotics too. I recommend to check your uric acid level too. Drink atleast 2 litres of water a day. Eat fruits.Avoid mushroom,cauliflower. Hardeep kaur ji if u r older than 45 yrs,then do consult a doctor,as arthritis is common in this age group

I'm very sorry to hear that veer ji.Hope he is in his divine home and in lap of akal purkh.Sending heartly condolences and positive vibes your way. *Bahur ham kaahae aavehgae|| Why should I come into the world again? Aavan jaanaa hukam tisai kaa hukamai bujh samaavehigae|| Coming and going is ordained by divine decree; accordingly I am merged with the divine. *Sookh sehaj aanand vutthae tit ghar|| Peacefully I take abode in the house of bliss. Aavan jaan rehae janam na tehaa mar|| My comings and goings have ended and there is no more birth or death. Waheguru!!

Veer ji, In my view all is his grace.One who is gonna meet his master is already imbued with divine blessings from his birth.So if one does such attempts to meet his purkh,then it's too due to his virtues.So all matters is our love towards our master.If our love is true and strong enough,then we will appear to have enough wisdom and the right direction in our ongoing journey.All we need to do is to concentrate on our kamai rather than to worry about it.All happen with time and by his will.So love is the strongest tool to unlock anything and love for the true master is the biggest achievement. Gur fateh!

WJKK WJKF!!! I know it's not right to expect miracles and the aim of life is to understand guru's hukam and to abide by it.But still,there comes such tough situations in any form and we wish mightily to change the negative into something better.yes the glorious blessings are not stopped by doubt and that's we call the miracles.so has anyone ever experienced a miracle or act of god? Thanks for sharing in advance! Gur fateh!

Your second experience is like mine I had. And I remember I had some very weird dreams.I dont remember anything but whilst dreaming I was calling Dhan Dhan Guru Ramdass ji in a very rapid tune and One day I was reciting name of Guru nanak patsah.After getting up,these tunes of calling Guru sahib were still in my ears.I know how it feels.

Sat Sree Akal! Yes ,You 're exactly right harsharan ji. "[What can the worst happen? To die? So what? ]" These words are really so powerful .I hope it helps me a lot. Same happened last night.I was sleepy and was trying to sleep around 1 am.I was in a little nap.Suddenly I felt I was trying to leave my body.My body was pulling up and I tried to resist it.It was a very weird feeling.Then I was like walking around in my home and I saw my brother and father too entering my room.Then again I was lying on bed.I felt my body was very heavy.I couldn't move it for a while.Then I woke up.It was around 2 am.There was no one around.I couldn't asleep then.I tried to focus on simran,but this fear didn't allow me to focus much. I'll try to stay strong now and will continue my simran. Gur fateh!!