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Cyber sangat jee, please listen to the katha by Gyani Avtaar Singh jee Badnikalan. A person who consumes khanday da amrit or at least keeps kesh (uncut hair), will be saved from all types of hell, by Sri Satguru jee (Tenth master).
Please listen after 6.00 min
http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Bhai_Avtar_Singh_(Badni_Kalan_wale)/Katha_Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Ji/CD_10/02--Bhai.Avtar.Singh--Katha.Guru.Granth.Sahib.Ji.Vol.10--Ang.402%2C.Line.03.mp3
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Dhan Guru Nanak........tu hee Nirankaar
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Bro, if you are Keshdhari, you will be saved from all types of Hells (please have a look at the topic below). But there is no doubt that you will be punished for your acts of eating meat (for pleasure purposes) and drinking alcohol (for non-medicinal purposes) in your next lives. There is a reference to that in Mahabharat. Dhritrastar jee (father of Duryodhan) suffered loss of all his 100 sons, due to the sin of killing and eating meat of animals, in one of his previous lives.
Daas would humbly request you to refrain from eating meat and consuming alcohol. These acts destroy the good deeds, which you accumulate, attract negative entities in your life and are unhealthy for your body.

 
 
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Curiosity can make the mind wander. But without curiosity who has ever found God?

Curiosity is good, you just need to give it a dose of discipline.

Whatever you do in life, do it with a purpose, put your full attention into it and fully embody that activity with every cell in your body.

Suppose you chant Waheguru naam, then you chant with the purpose of going deep into it, you put your full attention towards it, and embody the sounds and meanings of Waheguru naam. You feel those vibrations, you hear those sounds and see many eyes, each sensation drives you deeper and deeper in the essence of Waheguru naam.

Practice it and apply that to all activities in life, and you will notice a big difference in your well-being.

YEAH THEY DO FEEL LIKE VIBRATIONS. 

Bhai Ji
you have been given the wrong information about Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala Ji

First of all the video you posted is of gurchanran singh Jeon wale he is a missionary you can find many of his video where he does ninda of all sants like bhai randhir singh akj, baba atar singh ji mastuana sahib, baba isher singh rara sahib. and baba nand singh nanaksar wale.

He says nam simran is a waste of time. Also, he recently organized a conference where they passed a metta which said all of dasam granth is not of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, thats including jaap sahib, chaupai sahib ardas and that these banis should not be read.
So be very careful about what he says.


About bhai sewa singh giving bhramgiani certificate. This is a controversy raised by missionary like gurcharan singh, ghagga sarabjit singh dunda, dilgeer, and thailand wale.
Bhai sewa singh ji in front of many jathebinds cleared this issue, you can find the video on youtube. The reason its called bhramgian university is because they teach from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which is brahim gyan. The certificate they give is to the people who have complete the 1 or 4 year course, its not a degree that says your a brahmgiani.

Bhai ji i hope this has cleared your doubts you can find many videos of bhai sewa singh ji on youtube

Savinderpal,

This whole issue has been discussed many times when they first started up. You can find many threads on sikhsangat about him.

But to put it simply they have a 1 year naam abhyaas course where you probably stay there and do a serious about amount of daily naam abhyaas under their guidance. At the end they give you a certificate from their institution called Brahm Gyan University stating you completed the 1 year naam abhyaas course. I don't believe it states you are now officially a "Brahmgiani", which was how people started interpreting it. Think there is also a 4 year course.

Yes they have certainly raised the bar in who can partake in Amrit. They believe one should have a certain level of kamiyee and reached a certain avasta before you should present yourself to take amrit. I'm not 100% sure but I think as a minimum you should have reached the stage of anhad shabad. Even after taking the amrit I think you have to commit to spending another year doing further strong naam abhyaas as some other jugties are taught in the amrit sanchar.

They certainly believe in quality not quantity.

Think the aim is to develop pacharaks with practical kamyeee as well as knowing teachings of Guru Maharaj.

I really like his lectures. He is one of the rare few who openly emphasized that one should do waheguru simran and you should focus your dhiyan on dhun of the gurmantar. He also discussed some very advanced stages of sunn, chota pad, dasam duar.

The culprits should be punished accordingly.

This is what happens when you let the caste system run a society.

Bro, a river cannot compete with an ocean. No one can compete with the Almighty Waheguru.
 
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Vishnu jee used to come daily with flowers and bow to Miri Piri day Malak - Dhan Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib jee Maharaaj.
 
An extract from the book Bhai Suthrey Shah jee:

 
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Sangat jee: Please listen to the audio clip below by Gyani Thakur Singh jee. Gyani jee proves (using an analogy) that the worship of Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the best, as compared to the worship of other deities.
Worship of Sri Hans jee is like white silk.
Worship of Sri Ram Chandar jee is like red silk.
Worship of Sri Krishan jee is like yellow silk.
Worship of Sri Kalki jee is like black silk.
Worship of Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is like Silma Sitara.
 
Please listen after 13.50 min:
http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/04-Katha/13-Giani Thakur Singh Ji (Patiala Wale)/Katha Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji/CD09(Ang0620-0747)/0680-Ang-0646-Pankti-01.mp3
 
What is Silma Sitara? Please have a look below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jdfONuQELY
 
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Paaji, your points above make sense, if we were on a non-Sikh forum. Here, most of the people, if not all, should be aware that the Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the greatest guru of all time.
Anyone born in a Sikh family, should be ready for a pooran guru. That is why, they have been given birth in a Sikh family by God. One does not get birth in a Sikh family, with ease.
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Do you guys know, that the above explanation (proving first master is above other Avtaars) was given by Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh jee Maharaaj himself, to his Sikhs?
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Yes, they feel like vibrations, right? When I was a kid it used to be very short intense bursts. Now they last a bit longer, sometimes up to a few minutes.  I don't know much about them but I've been able to find two main causes. 
1. Intense emotion - usually related to feelings of love, happiness, humbleness (many times in front of other meditators)
2. Mind stability
I've also learnt how to induce them by changing breathing patterns/focus.
I don't know why they happen or what they are doing. This again, should be answered by someone else. 

Conceptualize everything in terms of "energy". Even mental energy that you use for thoughts.
If you are using too much thought energy towards lust, then you need to started redirecting that same energy towards other better thoughts.
BTW, it is not really correct to assume that only "high avastha person has conquered lust",,, because out ofall the 5 dhuts. Lust is the one that takes so many hidden form in your own energies. This 'lower down energy'(below navel) is the  ONLY one that can be transformed into a substantial amount of divine energy,...this is what shall help to go towards Higher avastha.   Higher avastha doesn't come first and then kaam vanishes, kaam has to be stamped on in order to get to higher avastha.  It's important to understand this, especially about conserving this energy.
Kaam is a huge hindrance for any spiritual progress.  I disagree that you should distract yourself or avoid situations such as avoiding places where opposite sex may be or using cop-out excuses to avoid temptation. Because you are just SUPPRESSING the same energy, which usually ends up manifesting into frustration, anxiety, anger, disease or any other negative trait. Instead, when it occurs, like say a physical arising or itch down below, then you should DIVERT your THOUGHTS towards Akaal. You should try and pump navel, do saas saas and make/feel the energy rise upwards towards your hirda.  You should embrace this human instinct/behavior by NOT letting maya control your thoughts, but taking charge yourself and directing them towards physical. it's as if the universe just lumps a ton of energy on you with you making any effort. Pick up and use this load of energy wisely.
 
 

Sant Baba Isher Singh Rara Sahib wale used to say: If the Guru is not-pura/complete but the student has 100% faith in his Guru that he is the God; then there are chances that student will reach higher Spiritual stages and will eventually get real Guru. On the other hand if the Guru is pura/complete/God-Himself but student does not have 100% faith on his Guru, then the student will NOT succeed. It means that Faith is more important.
Also, why the hell you're so desperate to show the world (other religions) to counter-act their claims? The real point is: What you've achieved by following Guru Nanak Dev Ji? Think about yourself, in dargah, your Spiritual achievements will be measured and not your debating skills (debating on topics which are all illusion).

Bro, your point makes sense. Previous Avtaars had the required powers, according to the need of the times. But the fact cannot be changed. Kaljug is the most dangerous yug, in terms of vices. Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the most powerful avtaar, that has ever walked this planet. Satguru jee's mantars are the most powerful ones and can be used in any yug, to attain the highest possible state of mind.
There might be people out there, who will claim that Sri Krishan jee Maharaaj is the greatest. We need to be ready to counter their claims.
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Bro, it is not my methodology (Daas is not a scholar). The information is from a website. 
Anyways, Sikhs should not have any doubt that Satguru jee was greater than other avtaars.
Do you know of any criteria, which can prove that Satguru jee was not superior to the other avtaars?
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Okay, agreed that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was highest of the high; He is the greatest. But the real question is: Are you following Guru Ji's instructions/teachings in real sense? You're born in Sikhism and therefore its easier for you to follow Guru Ji's teachings (no resistance from society, family etc.). If you still don't follow the real core teachings of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, then having Guru Nanak Dev Ji as greatest have NO benefit to you. Think about it.
 

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The following was explain by tenth master himself. Satguru jee proved to the sangat that Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is greater than Sri Raam Chandar jee and Sri Krishan jee.
Note: Daas has condensed the information. The website can be accessed for more information, if anyone is interested. It is a long read but it has great information.  
Firstly, Sri Guru Nanak Dev Rai Bedi jee Maharaaj is a Pooran Tam Avtaar, while Sri Raam Chandar jee and Sri Krishan jee are Pooran Avtaars. Pooran Tam Avtaar is greater then Pooran Avtaar. Please see below:
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6.) Pooran Tam Avtar- This is the highest Avtar. This was Guru Nanak Dev Ji. All avtars are made of satogun but according to Gurmat the early avtars were created out of maya, and hence caught up in it. Guru Nanak Dev Ji however was a 100% mirror reflection of God, and hence he was not hampered by the obstacles which hampered the earlier avtars.
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Next, Maharaaj uses five criteria and proves that Satguru jee is the greatest.
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1.) Shakti- Shakti is power. Ram Chandar displayed his power from an early age. When his mother went to worship an idol of her goddess. He moved the idol and took it’s place. Krishna too showed his powers to his mother, Devki. Knowing he used to have a tendency to eat dirt she forced him to open his mouth, and through it she saw the entire cosmos.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji however did not give into the temptations of demonstrating his shakti. He even instructed his Sikhs to not give into the temptations of showing of these powers. When he was born, at the ambrosial hour (Amritvela) all the demi-gods came to worship him. They seated him on a throne and bowed down to him. They rubbed sandalwood into his skin and adorned him in various ways, all to show their devotion. They even did an ardass in front of him. That along with being the protector of humanity he should also remember the demi-gods.
Mata Tripta Ji, Guru sahib’s mother awoke while the demi-gods were midway through their prayers. The demi-gods on seeing her vanished. At first Mata Ji thought she had been dreaming. But then she saw her child adorned like a prince. She came close to him. It was then, to prevent her from finding out about his powes and to conceal them Guru Nanak Dev Ji started crying, and seeing her child in distress she easily let the curtain of forgetfulness be drawn over her mind. Guru Sahib eschewed demonstration of powers and placed emphasis on bhagti. It is only the result of Bhagti one gets powers but these should not be accepted as being a sign, that Bhagti is complete. There is even more bhagti left to do afterwards.
2.) Viaktee- Viaktee is the form of being. The physical form. A glaring difference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji (Pooran Tam Avtar) and Ram Chandar/Krishna (Pooran Avtar) is their facial features. Guru Nanak Dev Ji grew a very beautiful and long beard whereas the Pooran avtars had none. Gurmat says that one of the biggest reasons for an individual’s desire to cut kesh is physical pleasures. The Pooran Avtars did not have any facial hair.
When Ram Chandar left Ayodhya to marry Sita in Janakpuri, all the royal maidens were entranced by his beauty. On seeing this he told them that he will satisfy their desires in the Dwaper Yug. In the Dwaper Yug Krishna’s viaktee was one of lust. The maidens became the gopis and hence Ram Chandar satisfied their lust.
Above is a mural depicting how Krishna stole the gopi’s clothing and hid with them, in order to watch the nude maidens.
Ram Chandar and Krishna both kept youthful forms and as a result were not able to eradicate the cardinal sin of lust. Guru maharaj however let his body age as per Waheguru’s hukam and did not seek any physical pleasures.
3.) Pragya- Pragya is the name of a person’s knowledge of God. Ram Chandar had two masters in his life. Rishi Vashist. He spent 68 days with him in order to gain an understanding of creation. This is found in Vashist purana.
(We will be putting up excerpts from this purana very soon).
Ram Chandar then spent 8 days with Rishi Vishwamitar in order to learn Shastarvidya, the science of weapons.
Ram Chandar and brother Lakshman do seva of Vishwamitar.
Krishna’s spiritual master was Rishi Darbasha, who taught him the knowledge of God in 8 days, whereas his martial master was Rishi Sandeepan who taught him Shastarvidya in 64 days.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji however was born learned from the start. He did not need any Guru or teacher at all. His Guru was the shabad and he was above the teachings of the vedant, upanishads and qoran etc. When his parents sent him to Pandit Gopal Panday in order to learn maharaj taught Panday the essence of Waheguru and creation. On the third day Pandit Ji told maharaj’s parent that he (Guru Nanak) was the creator of all knowledge and there was nothing he could teach him.
Baba Kalu then took maharaj to Mulla Noor Deen, however the Guru gave an exalting discourse to the Mulla which changed his life. The other avtars adopted masters, but maharaj adopted no one as a master instead masters adopted him as a master.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji at school with Mulla Noor Deen, his father and other students.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji never had to use any weapons, his shastar was the shabad. However he still taught Shastarvidya to Baba Buda Ji, the shastarvidya given to him in sachkhand which was returned to him in his sixth form. No avtar in terms of Shakti, Pragya and Viakat can even come an inch close to Guru Sahib.
4.) Kartab- Kartab is the showing of one’s skills. In Treta-yug the age of Ram Chandar was 10,000 years! During this time Ram Chandar only showed his kartab in the 14 years he spent in exile. After 14 years of exile he went back to Ayodhya and made a promise, that under him no parent will lose their child. It was then that a Brahman came to him and asked him to resurrect his son or otherwise accept the title of a liar. Ram Chandar asked the Brahman how his son died, the Brahman replied that a shudra (dalit) was reading the scriptures and praising God thats why. Ram Chandar went to the residence of the Dalit, Shambuk and resurrected the Brahman’s son by cutting of Shambuk’s head and killing him. This account is found in both the Dasam Granth and the Balmiki Ramayan.
By accident Ram Chandar fought against his sons Love and Kush. His sons injured or killed his entire army including Ram Chandar. Only due to the goodness of Sita he was brought back to life. Still Ram Chandar passed the reign of the kingdom over to his two sons. This was due to his attachment with his family.
Krishna after killing Kans he placed his maternal grandfather named Ugarsain on the throne to rule the kingdom. This showed his attachment to his family.
However Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji for the first 28 years stayed in the city of Sultanpur and worked in the granary. After doing this they went into the Beas River and went to heaven there. Here they adopted God as their only spiritual master. They were given the root incantation here and following which saved all of humanity with the knowledge of the Lord. They travelled far and wide doing this. They did not speak of any other demi god or prophet other then God.
Guru maharaj and Salis Rai Jeweller, a devotee maharaj met on his journeys in India.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji did not show any attachment to their sons but showed may feats of skill. Instead of installing one of their sons in their position they appointed one of their disciples.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji met many evil kings such as Devloot, Lajvarad and Babur. Rather then killing them they gave them knowledge in order to make them understand the message of God and to help humanity.
The demon Kauda, the thieves Bhumai and Sajjan were made to repent what they were doing and became saints. They made all the evil people good with the teachings they imparted. They saw no difference between social class, gender, age, etc and imparted the same message to all the people of the world.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji in order to avoid many troubles showed much skill.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji did not show any less skill then any other incarnation. They actually showed greater skill then all others.
5.) Aayoo, or acts performed for the good of others.
Ram Chandar lived for 10,000 years. Due to listening to the Brahmans they killed a person of a low caste. They also handed the reign of the land to his two sons.
Krishna lived for 1,000 years. He believed Jadva to be an egotistical person due to this he got Rishi Darbasha to curse him so that he would die.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a king and a saint at the same time. In order to bring any other being back to life they never killed another. By bringing that person back to life they would give them the name of God so that they could save and bring back to life many other people.
This is the same with the 3rd, 5th, 9th and 10th Sikh Gurus. The third Guru, Sri Guru Amar Das Ji whilst the spiritual master of the Sikhs for 22 years no one died in the village of Gobindwal. No matter if old or young no one died during the 22 years that Sri Guru Amar Das Ji was in the city of Gobindwal. No one was ill as well. This showed that the Guru’s of the Sikhs were greater then that of the incarnations.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji lived for 70 years and during that time travelled more then Ram Chandar and Krishna did. Ram Chandar and Krishna never travelled further then Indian and Sri Lanka. Guru Nanak Dev Ji went to Kashmir, Nepal, Bhutan, China, Tibet, Sikam, Burma, Africa, Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Russia. They travelled to these countries and more all by foot. In the ballads written by Bhai Gurdas Ji it states the Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji actually travelled the whole world and met all the people of all nations. Guru Nanak Dev Ji saved that many souls that they cannot all be accounted for.
In such a small life Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji helped an infinite number of people. They got the root incantation from heaven and spread it through the seven lands of India and all of the continents throughout the world. They taught all the people to meditate on the name of the one true Lord. They started the faith of Sikhism. They created the true congregation. They made other people meditate on the Lord.
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The above clearly proves that Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the greatest.
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Bhaji jee - Sri Narsingh jee was an avtaar of Sri Vishnu jee (a demi-God), not of the Almighty Waheguru. But, one has to understand that Waheguru exists in demi-Gods too. The source of power of all demi-Gods is the Almighty Waheguru.
The most powerful avtaar of Sri Vishnu jee was Sri Krishan jee, who was bestowed with 16 Kalas (Powers). Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the incarnation of the Almighty Waheguru and has unlimited powers.
For more info, please have a look below:

 
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Everyone should be treated as "innocent" until proven guilty.  Suspicions and speculations, shouldn't ever come into the equation.
13 year old girls--> Yes, there are 13 year olds in the real world.
Problems mentioned in OP about sexism and families spoiling sons and boys etc.--> Yes, there are plenty of these in the real world.
Then why would foolishly assume that the op is fabricated?      some Sikh men love nothing better than to judge and "play God"
 

They are not taking it seriously because every single thing that OP is saying has been said on this forum so many times by the same person. Every thought of OP seems to be influenced by reading posts over here. True, there could be a 13 year old writing all this but where is she now? Unless she actively participate no one will trust. I joined the forum in distress too and when I posted my life here, I came back to check people's responses or to find some relief. I mean if I tell someone my pain, I will reply again if they talk to me . I won't just post and forget about it. 
 

I can't believe you guys are labelling this as a controversial topic but paying no attention or concern for the op at all, rather the opposite. As Sikhs I find this shameful. We're not on about suspicion and pointing fingers, aren't we supposed to help?
Admins: Might I make a suggestion, perhaps create a sub forum where guests can post (because many even those who have user names) may want to broach a controversial topic and don't want their reputation on rest of site defamed because of their views on a particular subject which is hard to talk about. Like bar guest topics creation on rest of site but create a subforum specifically for controversial topics where people can post anonymously / as a guest. Then it will be contained to one sub forum at least and those who don't want to read those topics don't have to.
On a side note, I posted before as a guest and due to suggestion to make an account I did. Now I am being accused of being someone else. So you can't win, and it doesn't really matter anyway in the end.  People will still have their agendas and be weary of anyone who disagrees with their agenda. On both sides.