sarabatam

- Gurbani has lot of references on hirdee, rideh. Eg Sukhmani sahib, Anand Sahib
- One line of thought which is quite convincing is our self resides in same as deep sleep-one feeling indifference to three states jagrat, suapan, sukhopat is turiya well maintained abidance in hirde 24/7 in hirda.
- Second line of thought which is also quite convincing self resides in tenth door/crown chakra. Both above are true at the same time. Listen to sant jagjit singh ji tapes question and answers.
- Robert Adams was student of ramana maharishi.
- I found another interesting article which I used experencially- https://beezone.com/wide-stacks-many-topics/three_stations_of_the_hear.html
- I made a link between sant isher singh ji rara sahib video above with sant darshan singh ji article below on hirde 
 

I'm speaking about regarding concentration on hirda(right side).  Look into the link I posted. 
My point is your doing that all self guided, from books mixing and matching bachans according to your intellect.  You're putting your feet in many boats (mahatmas methods), in turn following no one's completely.  Not a personal attack.
Regarding your other point, about turiya yes and no.  Without hosh/full awareness it's not the same thing.   
Ps: Robert Adams is a fraud(never met Maharishi) among other things hes claimed  Excellent speaker though.  I'm familiar with most of public Ramana Maharishi lineage.  Godman also confirmed that, along with a few others.
Either way do what you must, intellect/thoery can be a burden as with the pundits from history.  Gets in the way of surrender required on both bhagti maarg/self-inquiry.    

I think I am in better position these days due to meds and heart meditation. Last year I had hellish type experience as listed in op. 

I think I am in better position these days due to meds and heart meditation. Last year I had hellish type experience as listed in op. 

Sant jagjit Singh Ji also told me japa of gurmantar so been doing that lately. I picked up on lot of clues from Sant Darshan Singh dhakkiwale heart center article.

Sant jagjit Singh Ji also told me japa of gurmantar so been doing that lately. I picked up on lot of clues from Sant Darshan Singh dhakkiwale heart center article.

Bro, 
Are you taking instruction from a teacher about what techniques you should be doing for your spiritual practices? You seem to have been greatly impacted by physic abilities. If your going it alone and just following books and what not then be careful.
You may want to have a chat with one of the gurmukhs from pmkc and tell them what your experiencing. From what I’ve heard one should always keep anhad Shabad with them when doing dhyan. From what I have read from your posts you don’t do gurmantar Jaap but go straight onto dhyan techniques. 
maybe start with Bhai Ramanpreet Singh in US. He speaks good English so you may be able to communicate effectively with him.
Bhai Dharamjit Singh from Gurmat Meditation is another helpful and experienced soul. 
There is also Bhai Nirvair Singh from Akal Sahai Waheguru Naam Leva but he is keen on taking on fresh students and not those linked or attached to others or come with loads of gyan as there is too much to unlearn and start again, but he still might be able offer you some guidance or let you know if you have gone off the beaten track.
I would be seriously concerned if I were you. In Q&As with Gurmukhs, I have heard people mention harassment from entities. But over time and with guidance these things went away and no longer harassed abhiyasis. You need help and I’m not sure if your getting it because you mentioned this before.
Get a 2nd opinion from someone else other than Sant Jagjit Singh. No offence intended bud, but you have been struggling with this for a while now and from what I’m reading it’s getting worse.  
 

As you know from last year, I started posting lot of stuff in regards to heart healing project and what not, most of it was guided by the voice as i can hear the other people voices (even heard aussie woman), it was guided- I am not sure how much is true i did experiment some of it with good dna altering with heart rates that work like charm. Anyway, forgot about the forget heart healing project for sec, here is the fun and scary party- I was attacked by christian demon - lucifier for a day while my spiritual heart was opened I could hear his rambling on 3rd eye voice travelling from navel (material world). I truly believe ghost exist- my blood bones were sucked inwards , felt like zombie then i came back- heard a voice lucifier. I think the process is called channeling spirits he need to cross over (i am assuming), saw echkhart tolle video on channeling spirits.
Fast fwd to now I m on lot of medical pills for PTSD and schizophrenia (sant jagjit singh ji harkhowale told to stay on it) as i heard other people voices for 2 months i beleive its telepathy. Needless to say,  its been traumatic, meds are there  to control it kicks in when i m not meditating.  It is been quite peaceful and calm when i am meditating on spiritual heart center right side of chest feel-awareness at the level of heart expands. I saw brillant white light on 3rd eye, One of indications heart center opens you will amazing coolness , cool breeze on right side of chest. Here are some of references. I am sharing this because dont be discouraged by the path, if you have done ardas for self realization not just it will happen, it will throbbed on to you. 
There are plenty of references of hirde/ride/in sukhmani sahib, anand sahib and nij ghar in gurbani . Here are some from outside sources which are very interesting.

From 35 mins onwards.
 
 

Thanks for your post dalsingh. Make sense. I spoke to Sant ji he said don't do too much. That's why bhagti nitnem and self contemplation goes hand in hand so defo there are some guidelines. I do meditation less now.
One thing from all of this sure self mastery is key. 

I just take it easy now, i purposely close my atentas for lack of better word- crown chakra, i just chill out heart center, cool silent feeling what happens is I thought which is raised in brain which is reason for causing all the thoughts have automatically gone to I heart ensuing peace for most part without much effort. The problem start when i start playing around chakras without master oh boy channeling spirits telepathy voices took toll on me. Will try sukha nihang style.

@Lucky @Sat1176 love your input in this.

Tolle talks about Channeling spirits 
https://youtu.be/bB_2PRU3ppE

We're gonna start doing this in the south. Well various collaborations. 

They do this every year for last couple of yrs. BC and Alberta university is place to be for learning about indigenous communities. There is alliance between Sikh choiltin brothers and first nation groups.

They do this every year for last couple of yrs. BC and Alberta university is place to be for learning about indigenous communities. There is alliance between Sikh choiltin brothers and first nation groups.

Gurpreet S. Sahota - Nagar Kirtan starting with prayers of respected aboriginals of Canada. Chief and his wife performing prayers. #SurreyBC.mp4  
 
 

They do this every year for last couple of yrs. BC and Alberta university is place to be for learning about indigenous communities. There is alliance between Sikh choiltin brothers and first nation groups.

If certain rural farmer types amongst apnay can do this, I hope they can stretch their imaginations a bit and start showing appropriate respect to Mazhbhis back home too. I wouldn't hold my breath on it though......

It is heartening to see some recognition of the true 'owners' of the land Sikhs now inhabit by Sikhs. This is a very profound and meaningful gesture, unlike most of the usual sycophantic fudhooness apnay do in this quarter - like giving any gora politician/policeman who turns up at a Gurdwara a siropa or kirpaan 'gift'.   

@sarabatam
Bro, if you've been flying in the ether too much, you need to get grounded again!!
Link with the earth, do gardening and watch the plants grow. Do some craftsman stuff as well if you can. It will help bring you down from the ether back to the earth. Make sure it is physical. Training is good too. 

My guess would be that simran starts making boundaries between dimensions more porous. And if these boundaries are made of maya - it makes perfect sense in relation to what Sikhi teaches. 
It's not all bad. Like I had opportunities to reconcile with relatives who had passed away and with whom I wasn't speaking. It was healing for me, and maybe they were able to move on as well afterwards?
My belief is that some people seem more 'sensitive' or predisposed to be able to 'connect' or break the boundaries than others in the first place. They are the ones who naturally seem to have greater empathy, intuition, mental strength and other characteristics from young. So when they start doing simran/bhagti, their already natural inclinations sort of push them into deep territory comparatively rapidly. If they aren't ready or prepared for it, it may cause issues.     
I think some people (like those sociopathically inclined) are trapped in this realm/dimension and can't ever experience other ones or get near them even. 

Gurpreet S. Sahota - Nagar Kirtan starting with prayers of respected aboriginals of Canada. Chief and his wife performing prayers. #SurreyBC.mp4  
 
 

Tolle talks about Channeling spirits 
https://youtu.be/bB_2PRU3ppE

Gurpreet S. Sahota - Nagar Kirtan starting with prayers of respected aboriginals of Canada. Chief and his wife performing prayers. #SurreyBC.mp4