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    Jageera got a reaction from Kaur10 in Will be doing 125,000 Mool Mantar Jaap   
    What time you usually sit for Jaap? You do it in the dark or with light on?
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    Jageera got a reaction from paapiman in Jaap for Bhagti   
    I would like to know too ji. According to the grapevine your disappearance had something to do with you doing intense bhagti in a hidden cave in some remote mountain.How true is that?What new insights have been revealed to you ji?
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Jageera got a reaction from paapiman in Taking off Kara...   
    If you ask me It's the intention that matters. You are thinking about others and that's good. Don't worry too much.
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    Jageera got a reaction from paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    No never tried.Just cold turkey.Most of it is in the head,nothing much physical.
    My full  blood panel last year showed no abnormalities. Nothing much can be done for lungs. But a good product for lung health/strength is boiled crocodile skin with chinese herbs or dried crocodile meat made into soup. I feel the lungs get stronger after a 3 day course of this.Extremely good for lungs.
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    Jageera got a reaction from paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    Exercising is a must for this to work.Helps elevating mood and keeps mind away from thoughts of substances at least during exercise time.
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    Jageera reacted to SunnySingh in question about bani (Tav Parsaadh Sava'ye)   
    Samarbir Jee,
    to understand in the right perspective the question you are asking in this thread, I believe let us see what else is said in the following 2 verses to the one you have presented above, though since the start to the end, the whole bani should be read and understood, for it contains countless pearls, diamonds and  rubies of highest spiritual value..
    Here it goes:
    ਕਹਾ ਭਯੋ ਜੋ ਦੋਊ ਲੋਚਨ ਮੂੰਦ ਕੈ ਬੈਠਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਬਕ ਧਿਆਨ ਲਗਾਇਓ ॥
    kahaa bhayo jo dhouoo lochan moo(n)dh kai baiTh rahio bak dhiaan lagaio ||
    Of what use it is if one sits and meditates like a crane with his eyes closed.
     
    ਨ੍ਹਾਤ ਫਿਰਿਓ ਲੀਏ ਸਾਤ ਸਮੁਦ੍ਰਨਿ ਲੋਕ ਗਯੋ ਪਰਲੋਕ ਗਵਾਇਓ ॥
    nhaat firio le'ee saat samudhran lok gayo paralok gavaio ||
    If he takes bath at holy places upto the seventh sea, he loses this world and also the next world.
     
    ਬਾਸ ਕੀਓ ਬਿਖਿਆਨ ਸੋਂ ਬੈਠ ਕੈ ਐਸੇ ਹੀ ਐਸੇ ਸੁ ਬੈਸ ਬਿਤਾਇਓ ॥
    baas keeo bikhiaan so(n) baiTh kai aaise hee aaise su bais bitaio ||
    He spends his life in such performing evil actions and wastes his life in such pursuits.
     
    * In these verses above, Guru Jee is telling us, that when one sits as a crane , pretending to be absorbed in deep meditation (without actually trying to be absorbed in His Name), is like wanting to cheat and impress others, this is useless and being fake.
    Or someone takes baths at so called holy places, that also is useless, because the water is  "jarr" = insentient element; which  can at most wash the physical dirt, but not the dirty subtle mind,  and this is the reason why that person as seen in the words of Guru Jee, shamelessly continues doing evil deeds.
     
    Guru Jee also informs/warns us against other practices which people proudly do which in the end are futile, for maybe in the eyes of the world this holds some sort of importance, but, in reality  takes us not even  an inch towrds Him.
    ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਪਾਹਨ ਪੂਜ ਧਰਯੋ ਸਿਰ ਕਾਹੂ ਲੈ ਲਿੰਗੁ ਗਰੇ ਲਟਕਾਇਓ ॥
    kaahoo lai paahan pooj dharayo sir kaahoo lai li(n)g gare laTakaio ||
    Someone worshipped stone and placed it on his head. Someone hung the phallus (lingam) from his neck.
    ਕਾਹੂ ਲਖਿਓ ਹਰਿ ਅਵਾਚੀ ਦਿਸਾ ਮਹਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਪਛਾਹ ਕੋ ਸੀਸੁ ਨਿਵਾਇਓ ॥
    kaahoo lakhio har avaachee dhisaa meh kaahoo pachhaeh ko sees nivaio ||
    Someone visualized God in the South and someone bowed his head towards the West.
    ਕੋਊ ਬੁਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਤ ਹੈ ਪਸੁ ਕੋਊ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਨ ਧਾਇਓ ॥
    kouoo butaan ko poojat hai pas kouoo mritaan ko poojan dhaio ||
    Some fool worships the idols and someone goes to worship the dead.
    ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਝਿਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥
    koor kriaa urajhio sabh hee jag sree bhagavaan ko bhedh na paio ||10||30||
    The whole world is entangled in false rituals and has not known the secret of Lord-God 10.30.
     
    Moreover Guru Jee goes a step further, and tells us something about those avatars,  deites, incarnatiions, gods, godesses to which many take them as equal to the ultimate reality /Truth of Satnam, but which is far from reality cause they too can not escape the noose of death.
    Death does not only exist at our physiacl level, but also at those subtle realms below Sach Khand, where countless souls in different bodies, and the rulers of those khands, brahmands, realms, rule, such as the well known trinty of Brahma, Vishnu ( and consecuently his avatars on earth plane) and Shiva.
    ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਮਹੇਸਰ ਬਿਸਨ ਸਚੀਪਤਿ ਅੰਤ ਫਸੇ ਜਮ ਫਾਸ ਪਰੈਂਗੇ ॥
    braham mahesar bisan sacheepat a(n)t fase jam faas parai(n)ge ||
    Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu and Consort of Sachi (Indra) would ultimately fall in the noose of death.
    ਏਕ ਸਿਵ ਭਏ ਏਕ ਗਏ ਏਕ ਫੇਰ ਭਏ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਕੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਭੀ ਅਨੇਕ ਹੈਂ ॥
    ek siv bhe ek ge ek fer bhe raamacha(n)dhr kirasan ke avataar bhee anek hai(n) ||
    There was one Shiva, who passed away and another one came into being there are many incarnations of Ramchandra and Krishna.
    ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਅਰੁ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਬੇਦ ਔ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਮੂਹਨ ਕੈ ਹੁਇ ਹੁਇ ਬਿਤਏ ਹੈਂ ॥
    brahamaa ar bisan kete bedh aau puraan kete si(n)mirat samoohan kai hui hui bite hai(n) ||
    There are many Brahmas and Vishnus, there are many Vedas and Puranas, there have been the authors of all the Smritis, who created their works and passed away.
    ਕਿਤੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਸੇ ਕੀਟ ਕੋਟੈ ਉਪਾਏ ॥
    kite kirasan se keeT koTai upaae ||
    He (the Lord) hath Created millions of Krishnas like worms.
    ਉਸਾਰੇ ਗੜ੍ਹੇ ਫੇਰ ਮੇਟੇ ਬਨਾਏ ॥
    ausaare gaRhe fer meTe banaae ||
    He (the Lord)Created them, annihilated them, again destroyed them, still again Created them.
     
    Finally He reveals us, the only way to wash our sins/countless karmas and merge in Him forever:
    ਫੋਕਟੋ ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮਾ ਬਿਹੀਨ ॥੨੦॥੧੪੦॥
    fokaTo sarab dharamaa biheen ||20||140||
    All the religious rituals are useless! 20. 140
    ਬਿਨੁ ਏਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਇਕ ਚਿੱਤ ਲੀਨ ॥
    bin ek naam ik chi't leen ||
    Without the single-minded absorption in he Lord’s Name !
     
    Now going back. to the question of the OP, of  if we are not engaged  in His name, that is useless  ......  I would say, doing His simran, is the only thing what we can do to be receptive to His barpoor grace, daya meher, in order to move forward towards Him.
    We have been born countless times, we have huge amount of dirt on our heads, so it is normal that our mind wanders and does all sort of tricks to block us in trying to go back to Him.
    But we too, we are no less, we are sikhs of Guru Jee, so we should also follow His orders diligently and make the mind eat the antidote of His Name(Simran), in order to defeat that naughty wicked  mind.
    We are all sick, unless we take the medicine of His Name, how can we ever get well?
    Waht sense does it make saying that, unless I get well, I will not take the medicine?  Would that not be foolish?  So, how can we say, if we see nothing within or our mind is not with us in Simran, it is useless to do it.
    You see, we are mixing 2 things. One, when someone is trying to behave as religious by showing us that they are in meditation, that is false and cheating.
    But, what cheating can it be called,  or useless practice,  if we are trying sincerely to fight with the mind by trying to give it the medicine of His Name? 
    We have been wandering since countless births, so how can we ever control the mind in some days, months or even a life span of time? 
    Our duty is to be truthful to Guru Jee, by faithfully carrying the devotion desribed by Him to be done, then He the Almighty  and mercifull Lord, will definetely pull us out with His strong arms.
    Our duty is only to please Him and extend out our arms,  so that He may pull us out.  
    Only that much is in our hands. 
    For if it was not for His mercy to forgive our sins, then even countless lives doing 24/7/365  any devotion from our side, would simply not be enough to wash all the load of sins, which we have been collecting since we stepped in the mayavee creation and left our home in Sach Khand.
    The Bani clearly says: 
    Baha pakar kar Guru kadeeya. 
    The Guru pulled me out by holding my arm.
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    Jageera reacted to paapiman in question about bani (Tav Parsaadh Sava'ye)   
    That verse exposes hypocrisy (pakhand) among fake holy men. The crane sits with his eyes closed, in order to catch its prey (fish, etc). The prey is unaware that the crane is about to kill it. Similarly, some imposters pretend to be holy men, but in reality, some of them may be just looking to entrap gullible people for worldly gains (financial, etc.).
    Please listen to the katha below for more details.
    013 Katha Tvae Prasad Savaeyae Svaeya9 1 Giani Kulwant Singh Ji - YouTube
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
     
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    Jageera reacted to paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    Music might also help some people, in their fight against addictions (drug, alcohol, etc).
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-22352918
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Jageera reacted to paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    Ref: Satguru Shabad Sidhi Bhandar
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Jageera reacted to paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    wjkk wjkf
    Bro, have you tried Psychotherapy or Hypnotherapy?
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Jageera reacted to paapiman in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    Have you gotten your lungs checked out? What about a Liver check-up?
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    Take laha gurmukho. The knowledge they are openly sharing in the practical sessions is very hard to come by. Don't waste the opportunity. You can sit in sangat from the comfort of your own home 24 hours a days given the current covid situation. There are some really blessed souls who have met Waheguru doing simran seva. You can hear the viraag in the voices when they come back from that union.  🙏 Even listening to the Q&A you can only just bow down in awe to some of the sangat's experiences. Really inspiring group of Gurmukhs and you know what they don't hold information back. 
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    No it just explains what it will look like when you bring your focus point close to you. When I kept on hearing the explanations I was getting confused if was looking properly as all could see was out of focus blur. Was that the transparent water, dundla vision they were referring to? I checked with them and confirmed that is exactly what they mean.
    You put a layer between you and physical objects so you can bring the empty space into the forefront. Now with practice the blur will clear and you will see a bright light instead of the blur. I can't comment on that yet as I don't have that dristi yet. Waheguru ji kirpa karan...
     
    Note :  The instructions are by no means complete but what I have understood so far....
     
     
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    How to Make Pyaar wali Drishti to look at Sach and remove bharam da parda.pdf
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    Made some simran notes if anyone finds them useful. 🙏
     
    Basic simran steps outline.pdf
    How to go into Sunn.pdf
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    Gurmat Meditation Telegram group schedule.

     
     
    If you want to learn about journey to sunn via gurmantar -> anhad shabads -> sunn then attend Bibi Parminder Kaur’s class.
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    Jageera reacted to Sat1176 in Gurmat Meditation Telegram Simran Groups   
    Students of Gurmat Meditation have started a Telegram app simran group on which there is gurmantar jaap 24 hours a day plus simran classes and sangat Q&As. Highly recommended.
    You can join using the following invite link.
    https://t.me/joinchat/VDkomrEKxOjW3jJW
    You can also listen on their YouTube channel.
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCYnm0mdVKOqnCrxQf9gOl_A
     
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    Jageera reacted to SunnySingh in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Thanks Lucky Jee.
    From your post, at least a couple of conclusions can be made.
    First, that no matter how much paapee one can be, there is always mercy from His side, more than deserved by any of us. 
    Secondly, the very essence of Sikhee, which is the bhagtee of Naam japna to free ourselves from all our entanglements and above all, to stay out of the reach of Jam doots. (There where Nam abides, not even Kal Purush dares to come near).
    In this sense, I will not add anything more, let each one make an inner self consciouss exam of oneself, and see if one is doing that bhagti, of which you are an example, a witness, and that which is the true devotion performed as mentioned throughout the Bani.
    It is a mark of His grace also, that you are relating us what we all ought to do, and fear a bit at least, in doing any harm/misbehaviour of any type with anybody in His creation. 
    Once again thanks.
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    Jageera reacted to Soulfinder in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Veer ji thanks for sharing this as its not everyday you get to hear about this real life incident especially which is really sad that you had to go through a coma and seeing all of this stuff. Its a honor veer ji to hear your personal real life event and i bow down to you for helping me to make sure i don't slip off the rail tracks with my simran and paath. I wish now that my prem satkar for doing bhagati gets stronger as this a big wake up call veer ji for me.
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    Jageera got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Wow that's an awesome experience.Truly lucky.Thanks for sharing bro.Great you understand your purpose in life and what you have to accomplish.
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    Jageera got a reaction from paapiman in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Wow that's an awesome experience.Truly lucky.Thanks for sharing bro.Great you understand your purpose in life and what you have to accomplish.
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    Jageera got a reaction from Lucky in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Wow that's an awesome experience.Truly lucky.Thanks for sharing bro.Great you understand your purpose in life and what you have to accomplish.
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    Jageera got a reaction from SunnySingh in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Wow that's an awesome experience.Truly lucky.Thanks for sharing bro.Great you understand your purpose in life and what you have to accomplish.
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    Jageera reacted to Lucky in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    TBH, I've never talked too much about it in great detail.. I never even told my mother because she was way too drowned in maya. But I can tell you there are many fictional and fake versions out there, so you have to be careful what you read.
    It was quite confusing for a few years because there were also a lot of things happening whilst I were in the month long coma. It took quite a few years to make sense of it since I'd also suffered significant brain and spinal injuries. 
     Did I believe in judgment day, the court or an after life?  I don't think I did, but probably believed in some kind of hereafter.  Prior to 2011, I was typical lad doing lots of bad stuff. and I really mean stuff that I'd be too ashamed to mention on here.  I'd do paaps and hera fairees like the rest of them among me all week long, and then go gurdwara on Sunday, giving large donations in the hope that my guilty conscience may be forgiven in some way.
    The thing about getting your hasab done at the court is different for everybody depending on what karams or fates you may have faced in previous janams.  In my case, I had previously begged for another janam to go and jap naam. I had been given this jeevan to do that. However, I came, never japped naam but instead created more bad karams whilst lost in this land of maya.
    I didn't have jamms beat me,  but I went past them at one stage and could see them beating others whilst hearing screams and pains of torture. I somehow knew that the ones suffering were there to learn from past deeds.
    Nowadays, I understand my sole purpose in life and the certain tasks that I've been assigned to do from the higher sources. Jap naam and bhagtee are the priorities and I try to schedule everything else around that as compared to one who attempts to fit in bhagtee if and where they may have some time 
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    Jageera got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Maryada After Death (Antim Sanskar)   
    Can you elaborate more on your visit to the court of Dharamraj?
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