GurjantGnostic

Casteism sends one  to dukhi. 
Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh. 

We have love for all people. We love individual muslims. We cannot be allied with pakistan or islam on fundamental levels. We're being reckless and not just with our own lives and reputations. 

I get it brother. Christians, so-called Christians, have done a lot of things with the Bible to make people hate Jesus. I get it bro. But it has you in a state where you're not really making arguments, you're making unsubstantiated claims brother, ignoring all arguments, and applying emotion and confirmation bias only. 
The text, the only text, that we can hold Christians to, is the Bible brother. Like The Vedas, it is determined in Gurbani to be not false, it is however not corrected to the extent The Vedas are. 
And if we are being honest, in both texts there is nothing to say that the all-powerful God could not come here in a human body to accomplish something as part of their story in Khel. 
We have multiple of our own accounts of the Angel of the Lord themself coming here to do things. 
Now a Sikh could forget the Bible is real and never ever ever know about anything abrahamic and do just fine. 
But what is not appropriate for a Sikh to do brother is in rejection of our own scripture and the clear scripture of the Bible, is to be Antichrist, and to make extremely unsubstantiated claims. 
And I get it bro people are a little bit hurt feelings, and they may not be familiar with the text, so you might just not have known, but when presented with the facts brother you don't want to know. You want to continue on in the same ignorance and bias that you had, flagrantly turning your nose up at not only the Bible bro but Gurbani. 
 

I get it brother. Christians, so-called Christians, have done a lot of things with the Bible to make people hate Jesus. I get it bro. But it has you in a state where you're not really making arguments, you're making unsubstantiated claims brother, ignoring all arguments, and applying emotion and confirmation bias only. 
The text, the only text, that we can hold Christians to, is the Bible brother. Like The Vedas, it is determined in Gurbani to be not false, it is however not corrected to the extent The Vedas are. 
And if we are being honest, in both texts there is nothing to say that the all-powerful God could not come here in a human body to accomplish something as part of their story in Khel. 
We have multiple of our own accounts of the Angel of the Lord themself coming here to do things. 
Now a Sikh could forget the Bible is real and never ever ever know about anything abrahamic and do just fine. 
But what is not appropriate for a Sikh to do brother is in rejection of our own scripture and the clear scripture of the Bible, is to be Antichrist, and to make extremely unsubstantiated claims. 
And I get it bro people are a little bit hurt feelings, and they may not be familiar with the text, so you might just not have known, but when presented with the facts brother you don't want to know. You want to continue on in the same ignorance and bias that you had, flagrantly turning your nose up at not only the Bible bro but Gurbani. 
 

Here's from the new about Christ bro. 
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-15.htm
He is the Sargun of the Nirgun God, the Avtar over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, Sargun and Nirgun, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL things were Karta through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
ਜੀਅਜੰਤਜਾਕੇਸਭਿਕੀਨੇਪ੍ਰਭੁਊਚਾਅਗਮਅਪਾਰਾ॥
jeea ja(n)t jaa ke sabh keene prabh uoochaa agam apaaraa ||
God created all beings and creatures; He is lofty, inaccessible and infinite.
 
Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Sorath - 630
ਬੇਦਕਤੇਬਕਹਹੁਮਤਝੂਠੇਝੂਠਾਜੋਨਬਿਚਾਰੈ॥
bedh kateb kahahu mat jhootte jhoottaa jo na bichaarai ||
Do not say that the Vedas, and the Bible are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.
 
Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Prabhaatee - 1350

Here maybe the clarity of the text is in the way. Perhaps you prefer to hear things from dudes on youtube brother. 
 
 
 

Yup. Care to break it down?
Brother I gave you the transliterated interlinear version to make it easy for you. 

This is the old testament not New. 

Isaiah 48
16. “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord YHWH and His Ruach [a]Have sent Me.”
 
17. Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your YHWH, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go.
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 48%3A16-17&version=NKJV
 
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/48-16.htm
 
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/48-17.htm
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
Colossians 1:15-17
15 He is the image of the invisible YHWH, the Prototokos, over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [a]principalities or [b]powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
From Ancient Greek πρωτο- (prōto-), combining form of πρῶτος (prôtos) "first", superlative of πρό (pró) "before".
Pro before. Protos first. Proto before first. 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians 1%3A15-17&version=NKJV
 
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-15.htm
Philippians 2:6-11
New King James Version
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it [a]robbery to be equal with God, 7 but [b]made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Revelation 19:11-15
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in[a] blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. 14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule[b] them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
ਕਬੁਧਿਕਰਨਤੇਲੋਕਹਟਾਇ॥੨੯॥
kabudh karan te lok haTai ||29||
“You go therefore for the spread of Dharma (righteousness) and cause people to retrace their steps from evil actions”.29.
 
Guru Gobind Singh Ji in Bachithr Naatak - 57
ਅਉਰਕਿਸੂਤੇਬੈਰਨਗਹਿਹੋਂ॥੩੧॥
aaur kis te bair na gahihau ||31||
I do not bear enmity towards anyone. 31.
 
Guru Gobind Singh Ji in Bachithr Naatak - 58
John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Biblically Jesus is YHWH. 

ਗੁਰਗੋਬਿੰਦੁਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁਪੂਰਾ॥
gur gobi(n)dh paarabraham pooraa ||
The Guru, the Lord of the Universe, the Supreme Lord God, is perfect.
 
Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Gauree -202
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਵਿਚਿਨਾਮੁਨਿਧਾਨੁਹੈਕਰਮਿਪਰਾਪਤਿਹੋਇ॥
satigur vich naam nidhaan hai karam paraapat hoi ||
The Treasure of the Naam is within the True Guru; by His Grace, it is obtained.
 
Guru Amar Daas Ji in Siree Raag - 88
ਅਗਮਅਗੋਚਰੁਸੁਆਮੀਅਪੁਨਾਗੁਰਕਿਰਪਾਤੇਸਚੁਧਿਆਈਜੀਉ॥੨॥
agam agochar suaamee apunaa gur kirapaa te sach dhiaaiee jeeau ||2||
By Guru's Grace, I meditate on the Inaccessible and Unfathomable True Lord. ||2||
 
Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Maajh - 101
 
ਸਚਖੰਡਿਵਸੈਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ॥
sach kha(n)dd vasai nira(n)kaar ||
In the realm of Truth, the Formless Lord abides.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Jap - 8
1k Ongkar Satgur Prasad ੴ ਸਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Nirankar, Satgur Prasad. 
 

I'll let my post stand for itself brother. 
Could you site sources for each of those claims please friend?

And could you break this down for me?

https://news.sky.com/story/sikh-activist-in-the-uk-on-indian-hit-list-in-constant-fear-of-being-killed-at-any-time-13070771
 
'We can be killed in the UK at any time': Sikh activist fears for life after being named on Indian 'hit list'
 
Kulwant Singh Mothada supports a Sikh homeland, separate from India, called Khalistan. He is one of several activists - some of whom are dead - accused of violating terror laws by India's counter-terror department. He spoke to Sky News in his first TV interview.
By Tom Cheshire, Data and Forensics correspondent @chesh
  Wednesday 14 February 2024 07:28, UK
 

approved.

https://news.sky.com/story/jagtar-singh-johal-brother-of-imprisoned-briton-tells-david-cameron-his-life-is-in-your-hands-13070109
Jagtar Singh Johal: Brother of imprisoned Briton tells Lord Cameron 'his life is in your hands'
The brother of Jagtar Singh Johal has revealed to Sky News that he told Lord Cameron "his life is in your hands" as the foreign secretary gave assurances the government was doing "the right thing" by the British national.
Monday 12 February 2024 15:18, UK
 
The brother of a British man who has been held in an Indian prison for more than six years has told Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron "his life is in your hands".
Jagtar Singh Johal from Dumbarton, Scotland, was in Punjab, northern India, for his wedding in 2017 when his family said he was arrested and bundled into an unmarked car.
He is said to have been tortured, including with electric shocks, and faces the death penalty as a result of his campaigning for Sikh rights.
Politics live: Cameron holds 'very important meeting' over detained Briton
Mr Johal's family have continually urged the British government to help secure his release and, after a meeting with Lord Cameron on Monday, Mr Johal's brother has said there is "hope" that the former prime minister can be the one to bring him back to the UK.
When asked what he said to Lord Cameron during the meeting, Gurpreet Singh Johal told Sky News: "I have reiterated to him that my brother's life's in your hands, and if he doesn't do anything then my brother could be in there a long time.
"Jagtar is also facing the death penalty, which will be on the foreign secretary, so I have put it on him so he understands the urgency."
Mr Johal added: "The family requires answers, six years on, six foreign secretaries, but there is hope on my side that an ex-prime minister who was in charge of this country can use his skills to bring my brother back home.
"The UK government has said it is looking for a resolution, this should be that my British-born-and-bred brother should be brought back to his family in the UK where he can continue his life."
  'No promises'
It comes as Lord Cameron vowed to review the government's involvement in Mr Johal's case to "make sure we are doing the right thing".
Speaking after the meeting with the family, he said: "I wanted to meet there with the family and hear from them what they think. And I want to really stress, as an incoming foreign secretary, you don't just accept what the government has said up to now, you really look at it, really ask the questions."
 
Making "absolutely no promises" Lord Cameron said he would look through all the paperwork again, urging the Indian government to "speed up this case".
"I am going to take into account what they have said and see whether there is a different approach we should be taking," Lord Cameron told reporters.

Lord Cameron made 'no promises' during the meeting with the Johal family
"I am going to re-examine everything and make sure we are doing the right thing.
Revealing more about his brother's imprisonment, Mr Johal said the last time the family had any contact was on 18 October, the date of the imprisoned blogger's wedding anniversary.
"We are supposed to have video calls with Jagtar but those are not being allowed by Indian authorities," he said.
 
"He is supposed to have at least a monthly phone call with the family - that's not been allowed either. Instead, there is always an excuse for them not happening."

Amen. Happy birthday Brother. 

Waheguru Ji
Your 43,200 Jaaps have been added.
797,306
 
 
ਸਲੋਕ ਮਹਲਾ ੯ ॥
Salok mėhlā 9.
Shalok, Ninth Mehl:
 
ਗੁਨ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗਾਇਓ ਨਹੀ ਜਨਮੁ ਅਕਾਰਥ ਕੀਨੁ ॥
Gun gobinḏ gā▫i▫o nahī janam akārath kīn.
If you do not sing the Praises of the Lord, your life is rendered useless.
 
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਭਜੁ ਮਨਾ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਜਲ ਕਉ ਮੀਨੁ ॥੧॥
Kaho Nānak har bẖaj manā jih biḏẖ jal ka▫o mīn. ||1||
Says Nanak, meditate, vibrate upon the Lord; immerse your mind in Him, like the fish in the water. ||1||
 
ਬਿਖਿਅਨ ਸਿਉ ਕਾਹੇ ਰਚਿਓ ਨਿਮਖ ਨ ਹੋਹਿ ਉਦਾਸੁ ॥
Bikẖi▫an si▫o kāhe racẖi▫o nimakẖ na hohi uḏās.
Why are you engrossed in sin and corruption? You are not detached, even for a moment!
 
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਜੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਾ ਪਰੈ ਨ ਜਮ ਕੀ ਫਾਸ ॥੨॥
Kaho Nānak bẖaj har manā parai na jam kī fās. ||2||
Says Nanak, meditate, vibrate upon the Lord, and you shall not be caught in the noose of death. ||2||

Can add 43,200ish. 

ਆਸਾਮਹਲਾ੫॥
aasaa mahalaa panjavaa ||
Aasaa, Fifth Mehla:
 
ਮਾਥੈਤ੍ਰਿਕੁਟੀਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਕਰੂਰਿ॥
maathai tirakuTee dhirasaT karoor ||
A frown creases her forehead, and her look is evil.
 
ਬੋਲੈਕਉੜਾਜਿਹਬਾਕੀਫੂੜਿ॥
bolai kauRaa jihabaa kee fooR ||
Her speech is bitter, and her tongue is rude.
 
ਸਦਾਭੂਖੀਪਿਰੁਜਾਨੈਦੂਰਿ॥੧॥
sadhaa bhookhee pir jaanai dhoor ||1||
She is always hungry, and she believes her Husband to be far away. ||1||
 
ਐਸੀਇਸਤ੍ਰੀਇਕਰਾਮਿਉਪਾਈ॥
aaisee isatree ik raam aupaiee ||
Such is Maya, the woman, which the One Lord has created.
 
ਉਨਿਸਭੁਜਗੁਖਾਇਆਹਮਗੁਰਿਰਾਖੇਮੇਰੇਭਾਈ॥ਰਹਾਉ॥
aun sabh jag khaiaa ham gur raakhe mere bhaiee || rahaau ||
She is devouring the whole world, but the Guru has saved me, O my Siblings of Destiny. ||Pause||
 
ਪਾਇਠਗਉਲੀਸਭੁਜਗੁਜੋਹਿਆ॥
pai ttagaulee sabh jag johiaa ||
Administering her poisons, she has overcome the whole world.
 
ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਬਿਸਨੁਮਹਾਦੇਉਮੋਹਿਆ॥
brahamaa bisan mahaadheau mohiaa ||
She has bewitched Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
 
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿਨਾਮਿਲਗੇਸੇਸੋਹਿਆ॥੨॥
guramukh naam lage se sohiaa ||2||
Only those Gurmukhs who are attuned to the Naam are blessed. ||2||
 
ਵਰਤਨੇਮਕਰਿਥਾਕੇਪੁਨਹਚਰਨਾ॥
varat nem kar thaake punahacharanaa ||
Performing fasts, religious observances and atonements, the mortals have grown weary.
 
ਤਟਤੀਰਥਭਵੇਸਭਧਰਨਾ॥
taT teerath bhave sabh dharanaa ||
They wander over the entire planet, on pilgrimages to the banks of sacred rivers.
 
ਸੇਉਬਰੇਜਿਸਤਿਗੁਰਕੀਸਰਨਾ॥੩॥
se aubare j satigur kee saranaa ||3||
But they alone are saved, who seek the Sanctuary of the True Guru. ||3||
 
ਮਾਇਆਮੋਹਿਸਭੋਜਗੁਬਾਧਾ॥
maiaa moh sabho jag baadhaa ||
Attached to Maya, the whole world is in bondage.
 
ਹਉਮੈਪਚੈਮਨਮੁਖਮੂਰਾਖਾ॥
haumai pachai manamukh mooraakhaa ||
The foolish self-willed manmukhs are consumed by their egotism.
 
ਗੁਰਨਾਨਕਬਾਹਪਕਰਿਹਮਰਾਖਾ॥੪॥੨॥੯੬॥
gur naanak baeh pakar ham raakhaa ||4||2||96||
Taking me by the arm, Guru Nanak has saved me. ||4||2||96||
 
Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Aasaa - 394

ਆਸਾਮਹਲਾ੫॥
aasaa mahalaa panjavaa ||
Aasaa, Fifth Mehla:
 
ਮਾਥੈਤ੍ਰਿਕੁਟੀਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਕਰੂਰਿ॥
maathai tirakuTee dhirasaT karoor ||
A frown creases her forehead, and her look is evil.
 
ਬੋਲੈਕਉੜਾਜਿਹਬਾਕੀਫੂੜਿ॥
bolai kauRaa jihabaa kee fooR ||
Her speech is bitter, and her tongue is rude.
 
ਸਦਾਭੂਖੀਪਿਰੁਜਾਨੈਦੂਰਿ॥੧॥
sadhaa bhookhee pir jaanai dhoor ||1||
She is always hungry, and she believes her Husband to be far away. ||1||
 
ਐਸੀਇਸਤ੍ਰੀਇਕਰਾਮਿਉਪਾਈ॥
aaisee isatree ik raam aupaiee ||
Such is Maya, the woman, which the One Lord has created.
 
ਉਨਿਸਭੁਜਗੁਖਾਇਆਹਮਗੁਰਿਰਾਖੇਮੇਰੇਭਾਈ॥ਰਹਾਉ॥
aun sabh jag khaiaa ham gur raakhe mere bhaiee || rahaau ||
She is devouring the whole world, but the Guru has saved me, O my Siblings of Destiny. ||Pause||
 
ਪਾਇਠਗਉਲੀਸਭੁਜਗੁਜੋਹਿਆ॥
pai ttagaulee sabh jag johiaa ||
Administering her poisons, she has overcome the whole world.
 
ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਬਿਸਨੁਮਹਾਦੇਉਮੋਹਿਆ॥
brahamaa bisan mahaadheau mohiaa ||
She has bewitched Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
 
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿਨਾਮਿਲਗੇਸੇਸੋਹਿਆ॥੨॥
guramukh naam lage se sohiaa ||2||
Only those Gurmukhs who are attuned to the Naam are blessed. ||2||
 
ਵਰਤਨੇਮਕਰਿਥਾਕੇਪੁਨਹਚਰਨਾ॥
varat nem kar thaake punahacharanaa ||
Performing fasts, religious observances and atonements, the mortals have grown weary.
 
ਤਟਤੀਰਥਭਵੇਸਭਧਰਨਾ॥
taT teerath bhave sabh dharanaa ||
They wander over the entire planet, on pilgrimages to the banks of sacred rivers.
 
ਸੇਉਬਰੇਜਿਸਤਿਗੁਰਕੀਸਰਨਾ॥੩॥
se aubare j satigur kee saranaa ||3||
But they alone are saved, who seek the Sanctuary of the True Guru. ||3||
 
ਮਾਇਆਮੋਹਿਸਭੋਜਗੁਬਾਧਾ॥
maiaa moh sabho jag baadhaa ||
Attached to Maya, the whole world is in bondage.
 
ਹਉਮੈਪਚੈਮਨਮੁਖਮੂਰਾਖਾ॥
haumai pachai manamukh mooraakhaa ||
The foolish self-willed manmukhs are consumed by their egotism.
 
ਗੁਰਨਾਨਕਬਾਹਪਕਰਿਹਮਰਾਖਾ॥੪॥੨॥੯੬॥
gur naanak baeh pakar ham raakhaa ||4||2||96||
Taking me by the arm, Guru Nanak has saved me. ||4||2||96||
 
Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Aasaa - 394

Amen. Happy birthday Brother. 

Dude isn't perfect. But his independent page is wayyyyy better than when he worked for the north kor....e..american media. 

Found this on YouTube