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Just wondering, where everyone is and what you good people are upto now in your life?

I am resurrecting this old thread to gain some more information on Baba Vadbhag Singh. I don't know if anyone here was following the Sikh Virasat programme on Sikh Channel which was presented by Avtar Singh and Dr.Sadhu Singh. They had one episode where they claimed that Baba Vadbagh Singh fled whilst Tham Sahib was being burnt, he left the women, etc there and fled into the hills. Tham Sahib's desecration was later avenged by the singhs. However the jury is still out as there are conflicting accounts. I was wondering if somebody could shed some light on this. Hopefully, I shall visit his dera in India, been meaning to go there, just out of curiosity. Thank you..

Thats Brilliant

Who said blame everything on Kalyug?????? Of course not. Like I said. The buck stops with each and everyone of us. How much do we Love Guru Ji and how much of a sacrifice are we willing to make for Guru Ji, who sacrificed everything for us. By Guru Ji I mean, Siri SatGuru Granth Sahib Ji. Take Care, VaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, VaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh. ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ Ja▫o ṯa▫o parem kẖelaṇ kā cẖā▫o. If you desire to play this game of love, ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ Sir ḏẖar ṯalī galī merī ā▫o. then step onto My Path with your head in hand. ਇਤੁ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪੈਰੁ ਧਰੀਜੈ Iṯ mārag pair ḏẖarījai. When you place your feet on this Path, ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਾਣਿ ਨ ਕੀਜੈ Sir ḏījai kāṇ na kījai give Me your head, and do not pay any attention to public opinion (Ang 1412)

I think one suggestion would be to have a light version of the heavy app, where the static text info is served from a server, which makes the download smaller.

I just wanted to ask if you are developing this for the Andriod market? It would be great if you could, their development kit is free to download and can be used on a PC and Mac, (unlike apple). Hopefully we shall be releasing some Free apps next year, completely FREE, no ads, no nothing. I will download your app when I get home, it looks good. Question, is this iPhone 5 ready? Also will you be developing a light version of this, where the heavy info is served via a website/server. Thanks for your hard work.

Nice analogy of the "road sign". Good job on mentioning the Law of Change, I honestly didn't know that. Thank you for opening my eyes. I was blind and now I see. Seriously. Actually, I've already watched that video, back in August, my mistake for not informing you before I replied. (was I meant to? I haven't read the forum rules properly) Who said you wanted to predict anything? do you want to? Brother/Sister, you need to lighten up. Cool smily faces...woohooo

21st December 2012 will be a normal day. NOTHING will happen. I have seen loads of videos by people like the 3HO who are using 2012 to make MONEY, especially concentrating on the Galatic Alignment http://en.wikipedia....actic_alignment What people need to realise that these people are very clever and intelligent, they have read about these things and twist them so that their followers will become more form in their loyalty towards them, bring new followers and DONATE more MONEY. Weather modifications or "cloud Seeding" has been happening since humans have taken to the skies, well over a 100 years. Cloud Seeding was invented by the British/US Military as a way of attacking enemy soliders on the ground with chemical weapons via the air, etc. You can read about it by searching on google. http://en.wikipedia....i/Cloud_seeding What you are talking about is "Chem Trails" or "Chemical Trails", apart from visually seeing them, there is no way of proving what they are doing. Most of the time people dismiss them, claiming they are "Con Trails". Unless you have access to flight manifestos, etc etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail http://en.wikipedia....nspiracy_theory This too has been happening for a long time. These Chemtrails are more geared towards population control, it is also claimed that in the coming years 3 billion people will die. Watch this This has nothing to do with people not believing in God. These very same people who kill other humans also believe in God. As for Mahapurash trying to minimize strongest effetcs, etc. Are you watching Ramayan or Mahabharat?????? lol..... So, moral of the story. Don't give up your day job, whatever is going to happen will happen, just live your life, do your naam simran, nitnem and be a good person. Read up on Codex Alimentarius and watch this. http://en.wikipedia....ex_Alimentarius http://www.codexalim.../codex-home/en/ Want to survive 2012 watch this 5 parts - at the end, you will only be saved by buying his book, products. look at this The Georgia Guidestones, are big stones with writing engraved into them, in breif, it says that the earths population should be around 500 million and not more than that. http://en.wikipedia....gia_Guidestones Read up on Eugenics, watch the BBC 4 documentary on Racism. Read up on Susan Bardocz and her husband. World experts on planet lectins, etc. They broke the silence and started telling telling people what the people at the top were upto. http://en.wikipedia....%C3%A1d_Pusztai http://www.freenetpa...k/hp/a.pusztai/ In 1998 Pusztai publicly announced that the results of his research showed feeding genetically modified potatoes to rats had negative effects on their stomach lining and immune system. This led to Pusztai being suspended and his annual contract was not renewed. This resulted in a media frenzy, and Rowett Institute's director Philip James, after initially supporting Pusztai, suspended him and banned both Pusztai and Susan Bardocz from speaking publicly. He also used misconduct procedures to seize the raw data. http://www.psrast.org/pusztai.htm

Its called money laundering and still happens as Cash is untraceable. Best way is Moneygram or Western Union, or straight bank to bank transfer, but the EX on BT won't be great. I use moneygram or western union, depends how much I want to send. Last time I used the desi way, my massi ended up with 3000 rupees which were fake. Luckily I knew the uncle here and I paid him a friendly visit. Thats the only downside. As the black money way has no trail, say somebody reports your relative or friend to the police, etc for income of unearned money, where will they provide proof, etc same goes for you. I stick with the safe option. Come to think of it, sending it the "desi" way doesn't get you that much, but it depends on how much you are sending. People do it with land too, they sell their land in India and collect in the UK/US/Canada in local currency, thus avoiding tax and other fee's, we have solictors claiming its all legal, but thats a lie. My uncle sold all his land in India for something stupid like £150k per acre, he sold 20 acres in total and he didn't want to pay tax, etc for moving the money to the UK. Another shady uncle knew some rich indian businessmen, who gave him the money here, for a fee and took his indian currency in India, via their people... dodgy world my friends, dodgy world...

This problem can only be uprooted if the next so called generation think differently. When will this happen? When inter caste marriages are encouraged. We take Amrit, yet we do not fully give ourselves to our SatGuru. We claim alot of things, yet we do the complete opposite. Some say the problem with Sikhi in India are the Jatts who have monopoly over nearly everything.They even refer to the Ramgarhia Bunga as the Akaal Bunga. They have no right to do this,Yet the Silent Majority is still silent,why? because simply put, Nobody cares. You have all the so called enlightened true Sikh organisations blaming everyone else. In reality, we are to be blamed. The buck stops with US, YOU, ME, HIM, HER, US. There is a tip-toe conspiracy against the Sikh Past, especially the Glory Years of the Sikh Nation. To make us forget that we once had a nation, that we were once Free. (I am not talking about Khalistan I do not support Khalistan) So until proper Parchaar is done, things are ok the way they are. Yes I said it, OK. People talking of money swindling at the Gurdwarey, this has been happening from day 1. The Akaal Thakat and Sri Harimandar sahib have been hijacked and black money is being washed, not now, has been happening since, well a long time. I remember the announcement and how the donation box was broken and money stole, for the new Singh Sabha Gurdwara, it started at 4.5million, then went up to, 6.5, 7, 9.5, 10, 11.5, 15 and eventually settled on around 17.5 million for a building which is largely based around a office type building with a few minor tweeks, nearly everything was pre-fabricated, no specialised hand carving, etc. I remember the Allied Irish Bank poster, boasting about how it loaned the money to the Gurdwara. Who in the hell invests 17.5 million in Southall which is now being over run by Somalians? Where the Sikhs who can afford are leaving to other areas. do you know what is worse, is that NOBODY CARES. thats the truth. We have TV stations opened by millionaires who claim they can't run them without donations, we have radio stations begging for money. Its funny how these very TV stations and Radio stations claim that you should do your own Path, that if you get somebody else to do it, you will not get the fruits,so to speak. YET they then say, if anybody wants to sponsor Sukhmani sahib, then they can call and sponsor..I mean what the F**K is that all about. Yes but there is a reason for this, lets blame this on .............wait for it...........no not the SGPC..................no not Congress...................... KALYUG

couple of months late. Yogi bhajan said alot of things, he even claimed he was from a family who were healers to Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his wife was a direct descendant of SatGuru Nanak Dev's family. All designed to do one thing. Make them divine to the normal human, by making these claims they create in their "followers" minds that these people are special. BUT why, its all about Money, Property and Crowd control, this is what religion is today, the evidence is around you, 100 of millions of pounds, dollars, etc are being pumped into india in forms of donations, where land is bought up, deras created, etc all for the babey. the people are stupid and fall for their tricks Look at what happened when he died, most of his properties were taken over in court battles, etc by his own followers who cut their kesh (oooooohhhh thats bad), etc. Yogi bhajan was a business man, he has cornered the "Kundalini Yoga" market, you cannot learn it without bumping into his commerialised courses, same goes for Sahaj Yoga run by a (multi-millionaire, former royal)) rajistani woman, nirmala devi who claims she is the Mother Goddess come to save mankind in the AQUARIAN AGE, her market is Sahaja Yoga, she claims she is the "EKA MAYAI JUGAT VAI" in Jap Ji Sahib and that the Sikhs should follow her and that the Gurbani is being mistranslated by the Sikhs. http://www.adishakti.org/meeting_his_messengers/guru_nanak.htm http://www.adishakti.org/forum/of_her_alone_was_born_brahma_vishnu_rudra_japji_sahib_bhavnopanishad_4-11-2007.htm I wonder where the so called Jatherdhars are now????? Ramdev is trying to do the same with Raja Yoga and Ayur-ved, in the next 5 years you will not be able to learn Raja Yoga or Ayur-Ved from anyone but him. Its called cornering a market, like what Nat Rothschild is doing with Gold, what De-beers have done with the diamond market and what Mittal has done with the steel market. Yogi bhajan has nothing to do with the aquarian age. the followers of these groups will say i am speaking from my "negative mind".as they have told me many times in the past...Reality and truth is always bitter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession_(astronomy) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernal_equinox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Alignment#Galactic_alignment

and love, devotion & Kirpa from SatGuru

They have plenty of time on their hands, signing sponsorship forms, attending international events, such as the olympics torch relay's, etc. However they turn a blind eye to the real issues which are destroying the sikh youth in india. but who cares eh, at least we have the babey who will save us all from the boogey man

there is a document which shows that Kaljug has just started and has 400,000 years left. alot of this doomsday stuff is just stuff to sell books, etc. look at the state of the sikhs in the world, you think they are ready to "take ova da world"...come on...use your god given common sense as for the mayans, their calander runs out on 21st december 2012 and thats it. nothing more. no doomsday stuff is predicted, etc. it just finishes, like a book finishes. some people say this is because when they finished that calander, the spanish came and they didn't have time for the new one..of course, as they were being killed..come on read some books dudes.. as for other references, proof and sources required. I don't believe the Gurus were into "predicting" the future, nor did SatGuru Gobind Singh Ji wanted to rule the world...etc....rumours and myths spread by people. YES, astrologically, there is a new age coming, the Aquarian age (you know star signs for us, the planet has them too, ancient system), but this does not start for another 150 years..

HELLO ANYBODY THERE...lol

Naam Jap, Kirat Kar and Vandke Shak - SatGuru Nanak Dev Ji as laid it out in simple words. You won't get it more simpler than this I think. But people who doubt will doubt

DUH...obviously the prosecution will do what it can to get their clients out of the mess they created for themselves.....yeah..but still... Had she not said he tried to rape her, she would not got off as lightly as she did. come on yaar, use your logic... Sad what happened to him and even sadder what happened to his mum afterwards.

N30 Singh Veer Ji, I don't believe for one minute that Gagandip tried to rape her. I believe that she was told to say this as she might get off with a lighter sentence. i.e. the judge might see a female victim, etc But people who know Gagandip know this is rape thing is a LIE. Unless there is video evidence, CCTV from the uni, etc etc. it is her word against a dead man and unfortunately people will believe lies first and disregard the truth. No one is above the law, not even a Monarch. Saying that, the Queen in England is above the law, she cannot be taken to any court, in england or anywhere

lol @ bankrupt state....is that what they are telling people now. they stopped paying teachers their salaries 6months before these elections. they were told, vote for us and we will get you your salaries., whereas its the centre who pays for their salaries and not the state

brilliant explaination, brilliant

From what I understand, please correct me if I am wrong. Naam Simran is the way out of this world. (being very breif here). So, if you tell somebody, like we are being told nowadays in Gurdwarey, etc, to do naam simran. Why should once read Gurbani? If by reading Gurbani you find out that its all Naam Simran, then what is the relevance of Gurbani?

The soul or atma doesn't have a gender, class, creed, colour, race, etc. This being "gay", "Lesbian", "Straight", are all worldly things, etc, and have existed since the creation of the world, etc. What is important, is can a person whoes sexual orientation is different from what is considered to be the "norm" in society, attain Salvation or Mukhti, become Jeevan Mukht. Will Waheguru not give that person Darshan, if that person does everything with love and devotion, as per Gurbani??

What is holi? What is Holla Mohalla?

Don't get me wrong. What did they look like?, etc, etc, etc. How to you prove that this is true and not just something told to people, so that their faith is reafirmed in Sikhi????

Sikh channel, bhangal, etc all claim to wanting to help these people. BUT they can't and to be honest, they are only coming forward to look good, and generate more money for themselves. Thats the bitter truth. Their solution is to send them back home. They don't want to go home, thats not what they came here for. They came here for money, by selling their land, taking out loans, etc. They don't want to go back. I know many many illegal boys and girls, who work and are staying, upto 30 in one house. BUT if you don't work, then your fellow Pind valey will only put up with you for so long, then you are out on the streets. if I had the money, I would help all of them. sadly, some turn to drugs, not because they want to, its the crowd. Most people don't care, period. They only care about themselves and their own familes. No crime in that, people have everyright to do what they want. forget these homeless. We don't and never have helped the Sikh familes destroyed during 1984. Its time to put our money where our mouths are, if we care. Otherwise, just put up and shut up. (now I will hear about how people have help, etc)