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These are few local  events. on a mass scale none of them were able to save lives O/W why Sikh Kaum was so badly hit

As long debates are in civilized manner let them have

As long debates are in civilized manner let them have

Developed nations have best scientists in Physics , Chemistry , Biology and we have seen results for them and improvement in life they have done for their people . India have world's best astrologers and still we have yet to see results about improvement in life of people in India 

Are you trying to say that astrology is part of Sikhi? My ancestors were from pakistan and They never believed in astrology , there was no concept of kundali matching among sikhs. Though they believed in Jaadu tona .Astrology was never part of sikhism 

What a joke Indian treatment of cows is one of worst in India. And Farmers in Punjab and Haryana are abandoning cows for profitable buffaloes as 16000 crore of worth buffalo meat is exported from India .Punjab has 75% buffaloes and Haryana has 80%. Infact .What is shocking is that Mathure the birth place of Krishna have abandoned cows . There are 5 times more buffaloes in Mathura
 

 
Farmers in Punjab and Haryana are raising buffalo for meat and milk
 
 
 
 

As I said time has changed  , there are not many places in world where now minority is ruling over majority. India was ruled by handful of muslims. . Han chinese were ruled by Manchu's , and then handful of colonisers were ruling over entire world.
Now look around world blacks have taken over Africa , Hindu' ruling India , Budhists in Mynamar etc
 
As far jews are concerned they are not ruling directly , much more like conspiracy theory that jews have power. There only 1 nation is world was given by Europeans because of guilt they had in WW2
 
. And you must be living in your fantasy world to think that Sikhs were  following rehat according to your belief . Bhangi misl got its name because its sardars used bhang. Maharaja ranjit singh's court was full of people who drink Alchohol apart from few strict muslim. Meat and intoxicants were always widespread with sikhs

Developed nations have best scientists in Physics , Chemistry , Biology and we have seen results for them and improvement in life they have done for their people . India have world's best astrologers and still we have yet to see results about improvement in life of people in India 

Developed nations have best scientists in Physics , Chemistry , Biology and we have seen results for them and improvement in life they have done for their people . India have world's best astrologers and still we have yet to see results about improvement in life of people in India 

What a joke Indian treatment of cows is one of worst in India. And Farmers in Punjab and Haryana are abandoning cows for profitable buffaloes as 16000 crore of worth buffalo meat is exported from India .Punjab has 75% buffaloes and Haryana has 80%. Infact .What is shocking is that Mathure the birth place of Krishna have abandoned cows . There are 5 times more buffaloes in Mathura
 

 
Farmers in Punjab and Haryana are raising buffalo for meat and milk
 
 
 
 

Developed nations have best scientists in Physics , Chemistry , Biology and we have seen results for them and improvement in life they have done for their people . India have world's best astrologers and still we have yet to see results about improvement in life of people in India 

Germany lost because whole world pounced on them.And Britishers and USA were not far behind in science.It was USA that got atom bomb in 1945 .

If Astrology was a real science  then Why so many Hindu kings battles against muslim invaders. Why Scientific britishers took over India and all Astrologers , saints  were unable to predict anything to kings who used to hire best of them. It is not real science.

The big question is can you change the future with Deb drishti? How many sants were able to predict events 1947 partitions and warned sikhs? How many predicted bluestar? How many 1984 riots ? Hardly any one was able to predict or save innocent lives.
 
I think the people that have these  things may can see the events but none of them have power to change it. It happened with my father . He had a collegue  who used to tell him that his forefathers were great meditators and sometimes use to lift from the ground and he too have some spiritual knowledge. One day he just slightly meditated and and try to see my Dad's future and then he just said if I tell you, you will cry , That's it , His prediction became partially true as 2 year later my father suffered an accident and suffered badly
 

The big question is can you change the future with Deb drishti? How many sants were able to predict events 1947 partitions and warned sikhs? How many predicted bluestar? How many 1984 riots ? Hardly any one was able to predict or save innocent lives.
 
I think the people that have these  things may can see the events but none of them have power to change it. It happened with my father . He had a collegue  who used to tell him that his forefathers were great meditators and sometimes use to lift from the ground and he too have some spiritual knowledge. One day he just slightly meditated and and try to see my Dad's future and then he just said if I tell you, you will cry , That's it , His prediction became partially true as 2 year later my father suffered an accident and suffered badly
 

Time has changed quality now don't rule over quantity. Forget about political power if you believe in quality

​And how will sikhs get it...If there is plan to purchase an abandoned island then it may be possible, but if  people still thinks that Punjab can severed though armed rebellion then its not possible

​Caste is a very big problem in south asia , even abrahamic faiths are unable to crush it
 
Inter-caste Marriages Against Christianity: Kerala Bishop
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/Inter-caste-Marriages-Against-Christianity-Kerala-Bishop/2015/06/14/article2865295.ece1

 
Atleast we don't have religious figures telling us not to do inter caste marriages

We don't know what is local issue their. the one who put this video on net are idiots. they are creating uneccessary communal tension. What if some muslims have built mosque on illegal land or land belonged to Gurdwara . 

The share of other religious groups like Sikhs and Christians in the total population remained steady at a little over 2 per cent each, roughly in the same range as in the 2001 census.
Amardeep ji the full data of 2011 census is still not released .let's wait for it
Religious data' from 2011 Census could throw new light on Punjab
Vibhor Mohan,TNN | Jan 29, 2015, 04.59AM ISTWhatsapp Facebook Google Plus Twitter Email Linkedin Text resize:AAA CHANDIGARH: 'Data about religions' from the 2011 Census, which had been held back, could soon give a new perspective to the conversion debate in Punjab. Existing figures point that there has been no major increase in the number of Christians in the region and the latest figures could put more light on the issue. Besides, it would also give an idea if Sikhs were actually moving towards becoming a minority in Punjab.

Sources said though state-wise figures should have ideally been released earlier, the data could be out after the Delhi assembly elections. There were 2,92,800 Christians in Punjab according to the 2001 Census.

"This particular section of the Census could prove to be sensitive and might have been held back intentionally by the Centre as it is usually released along with figures of scheduled caste and scheduled tribe population in states," said a demography expert.

"There has also been an apprehension that Sikhs could be turning into a minority in Punjab and large-scale migration to other countries and growing population of other communities are being seen as the key reasons. Census data will give a clearer picture of the scenario," added the expert.

The previous census data had revealed that between 1991 and 2001, population of Sikhs in Punjab rose by 18 lakh-an increase of 14%. Hindus increased by 20 lakh-a rise of 28%. In terms of percentage, the increase in Hindu population is double that of the Sikhs. Christians increased from 2.39 lakh to 2.92 lakh in 2001.

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It is not caste it is profession that has impact on person's thinking.many martial communitties raise their sons in a way that they become brave , Rural people in India are much more braver than urban Indian irrespective of caste. alsp who told you chamar are simple minded?

The share of other religious groups like Sikhs and Christians in the total population remained steady at a little over 2 per cent each, roughly in the same range as in the 2001 census.
Amardeep ji the full data of 2011 census is still not released .let's wait for it
Religious data' from 2011 Census could throw new light on Punjab
Vibhor Mohan,TNN | Jan 29, 2015, 04.59AM ISTWhatsapp Facebook Google Plus Twitter Email Linkedin Text resize:AAA CHANDIGARH: 'Data about religions' from the 2011 Census, which had been held back, could soon give a new perspective to the conversion debate in Punjab. Existing figures point that there has been no major increase in the number of Christians in the region and the latest figures could put more light on the issue. Besides, it would also give an idea if Sikhs were actually moving towards becoming a minority in Punjab.

Sources said though state-wise figures should have ideally been released earlier, the data could be out after the Delhi assembly elections. There were 2,92,800 Christians in Punjab according to the 2001 Census.

"This particular section of the Census could prove to be sensitive and might have been held back intentionally by the Centre as it is usually released along with figures of scheduled caste and scheduled tribe population in states," said a demography expert.

"There has also been an apprehension that Sikhs could be turning into a minority in Punjab and large-scale migration to other countries and growing population of other communities are being seen as the key reasons. Census data will give a clearer picture of the scenario," added the expert.

The previous census data had revealed that between 1991 and 2001, population of Sikhs in Punjab rose by 18 lakh-an increase of 14%. Hindus increased by 20 lakh-a rise of 28%. In terms of percentage, the increase in Hindu population is double that of the Sikhs. Christians increased from 2.39 lakh to 2.92 lakh in 2001.

The recent conversion row in the border areas of Punjab by RSS had raised the pertinent question whether the population of any of the communities had actually witnessed any major trend in the recent years. Bookmark or read stories offline - Download the TOI appWhatsapp Facebook Google Plus Twitter Email Linkedin ADD A COMMENT Next Story »Deadline extended for regularization of illegal colonies« Prev StoryDRI officials seize 41kg heroin, smuggler arrested WE RECOMMENDIIT-Kharagpur scholar molested, sweeper heldCity'Kidnapped' boy found in Sirsa parkCitySalman, Akshay served notices for misleading cola ad campaignCityCentre seeks data on govt jobs for minoritiesIndiaPROMOTED STORIESRaheem Sterling receives shaky reception after 'disappointing' exit from LiverpooltheScore12-Year-Old Sriram is Fighting Cancer the Second Time and Needs Your HelpMilaap.orgRecommended by MORE IN CITY
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Real world problems are very different . I asked my uncle who is Gurdwara president in small town  i north east state of india that why poor people are shunned from langar. He said that many of them steal utensils and sometimes do also pick pocketing . He also said that they are not shunned but always given langar may be slightly later. He even said that in 1984 many who used to eat langar attacked gurdwara's .
 
BTW please ask your friends what Hindu mandirs are doing for poors. Sikh Gurdwara's may have lot of bad points but they are doing 100 times more social work than mandirs.
 
One of he main problem with sikhs is that due to propaganda and theory  the image of sikhs is larger than life and 99.99% of sikhs  do not match that image.

Islam too has very strict Rehat. Beard Namaz, Roza  hijab etc . But musl;ims are very practical they don't call anybody who is not adhering these as non muslim. . They even accepted pork eating alchohol drinking Jinnah as their leader. For them one can be a good muslim or not so good muslim. Sikhs on the other keep saying he is not a sikh that is not a sikh result many people whose ancestors were sikhs or closely associated with sikhism are now fully Hindu

Islam too has very strict Rehat. Beard Namaz, Roza  hijab etc . But musl;ims are very practical they don't call anybody who is not adhering these as non muslim. . They even accepted pork eating alchohol drinking Jinnah as their leader. For them one can be a good muslim or not so good muslim. Sikhs on the other keep saying he is not a sikh that is not a sikh result many people whose ancestors were sikhs or closely associated with sikhism are now fully Hindu