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only 5 ji the shabad about sugarcane that you are very fond of quoting, do you feel that Guru ji is actually telling us about sugarcane or is there another meaning, possibly spiritual, that you cannot see, or understand. Im talking about antreev arth.

i really enjoyed it. it was very nice. what has hapened to raj academy slot at this time? that was brill.

why do YOU feel burdened by the way these people died? is this at your place of work?

Shaheediyan jee. suleman himself says that we are bound by sharia and there is no room for murshids.

this is what you posted. now you sayin only the maryada is different?

i have listened to the tape. Definitley it made me wanna do more nam simran and take my jeevan more seriously. the convo realy brings home the importantance of Murshid or Guru, and how islam duz not allow for this.is this convo something we should be spreading about or is it best to keep to oursleves? when i first played it i was kinda apprehensive cos i thought i was gona hear screaming and all that, but it wasnt scary at all. the words of the guy, however that if we dont make the best out of this life, is very scary tho.

and its not justthe inuits.people that livein harsh places where tey have been born due to their karma ie in jungles, artic circles or even plac es like africa where rainfall cannot sustain a veg diet for the inhabitants etc. and farming in panjab only took off bigstyle when the brits ruled panjab.

first kalyug you said that DDT was a recent jathebandi and now you say that sometimes the nihangs were leaders of taksal. Make your mind up which one you beleive.

matheen can you explain further on the lower spiriual ascension of non-vegs? i dont think it true at all. this is not true in my own experience.

the differeece between the animals and plants is their status in the food chain. the similarities is that they both contain "jeev-atma" which will on day enter a human body. no jeev-atma is higher or lower than any other. so you can say they are a similair purpose in life - that is to see out thier JOON in the body their atma entered, and they are different becasue they have different roles, physical attributes. but when it comes to eating there is no difference. Only five, you must have heard the sakhi Uch da Pir, and the moghals bring meat for the Sikhs to eat and or Guru ji tells them to put kirpan thru it and eat it. Why couldnt Guru Ji have said to them just do meditation? And Nath Mal, in Amarnamah records Guru Ji telling the Sikhs to never eat halal. why couldnt Guru Ji just have said no meat at all? and kaljug. the "recent" maryada of Taksal precedes the budha dal one. Taksal was ordained by Guru Ji himself. what was the budha dal one anyway ? one that Nawab Kapoor Singh created? or praps the singhs that decided to recreate budha dal in the 1940s?

theres the problem. get rid of "I" and it will be easier to understand.

they would deal with it by giving the culprit a "kutapa".

who are you to decide this boy was innocent?

Sajjad Qureshi - the freed of Pakistan.

strange title for a book.

this is a line from Aad Guru that i saw. im only reading a literal translation of it and didnt understand it. This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Salok Vaaraan Thay Vadheek on Pannaa 1410 First Mehla: O you with swollen breasts, let your consciousness become deep and profound. O mother-in-law, how can I bow? Because of my stiff nipples, I cannot bow. O sister, those mansions built as high as mountains - I have seen them come crumbling down. O bride, do not be so proud of your nipples. ||1|| What is the antreev message here and why does the word nipples be better than any other body part, lets say nose or eyes?

what does the title mean?

kiss- keep it SHORT and simple.

Matheen, the nihangs were mute supporters of the corrupt mahants. they didnt stop what was going on at Nankana sahib, what high hopes did you have for them? in a conversation i had with Nihang Niddar Singh, he told me that the mahants were not willing to hand Nankana Sahib over to the akalis, but would only hand them over to the Nihangs Singhs. Where were they ? Why did it take a bunch of teachers/pen-pushers to do what the sword-wielders couldnt do? This morcha was not to get rid of the mahants per se, cos some gurdwaras remained in the control of mahats, but the morcha was to get rid of the CORRUPTION in the gurdwaras.

which would leave us with ?

this is what was wrote on this fake brotherhood site, the one i am refering to: I had a very good debate with my uncle yesterday. I asked him what was the point in having a TURBAN? we got into a heavy discussion adn these are the questions that arose : 1, How does having long uncut hair bring you ANY closer to God? 2, How does going through useless RITUALS such as wearing a Kirpan ( small knife) , a kaccha (long underwear) kanga ( a comb in your hair), BRING YOU CLOSER TO GOD OR MAKE YOU ANY MORE RELIGIOUS?? Isnt this a truer from of Idol worship? 3, Whats the point in bowing to a book you have never read? Isnt this a form of Idol worship? 4, Is a REAL SIKH an amritdhari or can those with cut hair and beards still be called sikh 5, How does drinking a bit of water called amrit and wearing turbans , not cutin hair ( which is scientifically proven to be Unhygienic) make u a better person OR A SIKH? and this is london jats effort: "pugh is a tradition amongst many holy men in punjab and india. and then don;t forget the the warrior nihang singhs." are you telling me you never read that earlier post londonjat? look at the words they use like "useless" etc. there is a way of ansking questions to learn and a way of asking questions to demean and insult. sadly for all your knowledge you fail to see the difference.

the khanda headstyle is terrible. 1st ive seen. think they just tryna speak to da yoot in der own langwij.

londonjat, your actions do not back your words up. on that site there is a topic mocking the 5 ks and saying they are useless etc. you have posted on it but not against the bile the others were posting. what are you waiting for? for sum1 to start posting against nihang singhs? that the onlything that gna get you going?

i havent seen you refute any of the "sikhs are hindus cos it says such and such in the Guru Granth Sahib", so i wouldnt be so quick to ask others. instead you bang on about singh sabha this,m singh sabha that. it seems to me that your pathetic hatred for singh sabha has led to you claiming all singh sabha's enemies as your friends, without realising that once they deal wiv da sabha , they gonna get YOU.

why? is it even more important than Gurmat?