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Sant mahapurshs humility is so natural and simple it leaves you awestruck. 
There was an incident that happened in wolverhampton with sant baba isher singh ji..Baba ji was going to attend a divan at nanksar gurdwara and one individual took it upon himself to print posters saying to not attend the divan as sant baba isher singh is a pakand etc.. While a sevak was driving Baba ji they saw the individual pasting the posters on the wall.. Baba ji asked the sevak to stop driving, baba ji came out went to the individual and said 'please let me help you' the individual was shocked and said these posters are about you.. Baba ji smiles and replies 'meleh kapre ninda toye'...
I cannot validate the authenticity of this story as i heard it in a discussion amongst sangat but two things we can learn from this is the humility of elevated souls and that even if one slanders you, let them as they are wiping off your sins.:)

The Dhall is preserved at Bhai Rupa Village with the descendants of Bhai Rup Chand who served Sikhism from Guru Hargobind to Guru Gobind Singh.
S. Balbir Singh from the family said that the Dhall is made of skin of the fish and was used by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in battles.

The following pangti stood out to me whilst reading Guru Maharaj but I soon realised how hard this state is to accept and maintain.
Ang 1168
Whoever sees the Lord`s Creative Power with his eyes, and hears the Guru`s Bani with his ears, and utters the True Name with his mouth,
akhee kudrat kannee banee mukh aakhan sach naam.  
attains the perfect wealth of honor, and intuitively focuses his meditation on the Lord.
pat kaa Dhan pooraa ho-aa laagaa sahj Dhi-aan.
 
It's good practice just to spend a few minutes each day looking out without any kind of attachment and embedding the teachings in the below pangtis in the mind.The same message is explained in the Saakhi when Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji visits Mecca and similar in the example of Bhai Ghanaiya Ji on the battle field. There are many more pangtis in Guru Maharaj that say the same thing again and again...
 
Ang 727
Serve the Lord forever; use your eyes, and see Him ever-present everywhere.
kar fakar daa-im laa-ay chasmay jah tahaa ma-ujood.
 
108
Those, whose inverted lotus of the crown chakra is illuminated, see the Immaculate Lord everywhere.
oondh kaval jis ho-ay pargaasaa tin sarab niranjan deethaa jee-o.
 
113
The Invisible, Inaccessible and Infinite is pervading everywhere.
alakh vartai agam apaaraa.
O Nanak, God Himself is pervading and permeating everywhere; only the Gurmukhs understand this.
naanak aapay aap vartai gurmukh sojhee paavni-aa.
 
684
Outside and inside, know that there is only the One Lord; the Guru has imparted this wisdom to me.
baahar bheetar ayko jaanhu ih gur gi-aan bataa-ee.
 
773
The Lord, the Supreme Soul, is the Lord and Master of the Universe; He is pervading and permeating everywhere, fully filling all spaces.
har aatam raam pasaari-aa su-aamee sarab rahi-aa bharpooray.    
 
Deep within, and outside as well, there is only the One Lord God. Meeting together, the humble servants of the Lord sing the songs of joy.
antar baahar har parabh ayko mil har jan mangal gaa-ay.    
 
790
The Gurmukh is free of conflict and strife, and sees the One Lord, pervading everywhere.
gurmukh jhagarh chukaa-i-on iko rav rahi-aa.
Recognizing that the Supreme Soul is everywhere, he crosses over the terrifying world-ocean.
sabh aatam raam pachhaani-aa bha-ojal tar ga-i-aa.    
His light merges into the Light, and he is absorbed into the Lord`s Name.
jot samaanee jot vich har naam sam-i-aa.
 
827
You exist within the city, and beyond it as well; O my God, You are everywhere.
nagar meh aap baahar fun aapan parabh mayray ko sagal basayraa.    
 
832
The One Lord is pervading everywhere; there is no other at all.
ayko vartai avar na bee-aa.    
Renouncing duality, one comes to know the One Lord.
doojay tay jay ayko jaanai.    
Through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, one knows the Lord`s Door, and His Banner.
gur kai sabad har dar neesaanai.
 
939
Nanak speaks: the Gurmukh understands; this is the way that Yoga is attained.
naanak bolai gurmukh boojhai jog jugat iv paa-ee-ai.
Let constant absorption in the Word of the Shabad deep within be your ear-rings; eradicate egotism and attachment.
antar sabad nirantar mudraa ha-umai mamtaa door karee.    
Discard sexual desire, anger and egotism, and through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, attain true understanding.
kaam kroDh ahaNkaar nivaarai gur kai sabad so samajh paree.    
For your patched coat and begging bowl, see the Lord God pervading and permeating everywhere; O Nanak, the One Lord will carry you across.
khinthaa jholee bharipur rahi-aa naanak taarai ayk haree.
 
944
That Shabad dwells deep within the nucleus of all beings. God is invisible; wherever I look, there I see Him.
so sabad ka-o nirantar vaas alkhan jah daykhaa tah so-ee.
The air is the dwelling place of the absolute Lord. He has no qualities; He has all qualities.
pavan kaa vaasaa sunn nivaasaa akal kalaa Dhar so-ee.
 
1093
Without the Guru, the essence of reality is not found; the Invisible Lord dwells everywhere.
bin gur tat na paa-ee-ai alakh vasai sabh maahi.
 
1111
The One Lord is permeating everywhere; there is no other at all.
ayko rav rahi-aa avar na bee-aa raam.
 
1237
O Nanak, the True Lord is pervading everywhere; all are contained within the True Lord. 
naanak sach varatdaa sabh sach samaa-i-aa.
 
1315
The Panch Shabad, the Five Primal Sounds, vibrate with the Wisdom of the Guru`s Teachings; by great good fortune, the Unstruck Melody resonates and resounds.
panchay sabad vajay mat gurmat vadbhaagee anhad vaji-aa.
I see the Lord, the Source of Bliss, everywhere; through the Word of the Guru`s Shabad, the Lord of the Universe is revealed.
aanad mool raam sabh daykhi-aa gur sabdee govid gaji-aa.
 

I am so sorry, as long as she is not harming others does not matter what she calls herself. The day she will feel a connection with Sikhi she will get back.

Not that I am aware of but it's all good. I think I will stick to reading the meaning of sggs rather than saying planning to do sehaj paath. Doing from phone or iPad does not give the satisfaction of doing from gutka sahib ji. Thank you . Main aim is to learn and get inspired which I can do with the help of Gursikhs who has done the translation.

Men = complain about being trapped with women.
women= complain about their rights.
No one will ever win. Vaheguroo

First of all, I wanna say sorry to you for all the people who have been mean. I did spend some time reading posts about women right on this forum and some people did say some mean stuff. However, i don't fully agree with the approach you are taking. I read many of your posts, you are after women rights so bad that everything goes towards it.
To me if I wanna be a good person I will have to let go of my Ego, I read your post about marriage and whole thing was about saying how you had a control over the Palla and you could just control the pace of your husband and how they said women can be part of panj Payaras. I just wanna know why is there a big need that everything should be equal literally? 
Guru amardas ji, the king of the world was sitting at manji and Bhai dattu came and kicked guru ji, he fell, got up and asked , is your feet okay? I am old and my bones are hard I hope I have not hurt you. That was the humility of my Guru amardas ji. That was the saakhi which shaked me so bad that I got deep into spirituality. This taught me if the king of the king can bow down front of a person who was so mean to hurt an old person then who am I to keep my head above so high.
If there are bigger problems like where women are being treated like an animal then I will stand by you with women rights, but if it has to do with small things like women giving their husband somewhat superiority, or no women in panj peyare. Why are we fighting if guru ji chose not to take any women, why can't we accept that and be like okay. I read some gurdwaras don't let women do small seva at gurdwaras, this is something I am with you. But this obsession about being everything equal might make us go away from the real meaning of following sikhi. 
There are countless stories which will show how the great saints and gurus showed humility and served even the lowest of low which were called by people. But look around today an amritdhari person will put other amritdhari down becaus they don't belong to their takht. I am stupid, I know nothing but one thing I know is women right is going too far and so does the those men who think a women deserve no respect. They need to just remember why call her bad when she gave birth to kings. I know you are not Indian and I know society influence a lot, I have spent almost 12 years in west and craze I see on women about being equal is not healthy. And so does the men who suffe from God complex. However, one gender has to show the maturity and learn to accept some rules which society created.
The type of world women want is where equality is everywhere and literally but then after that is achieved women will go to the extreme saying okay now men should start giving birth too, why we suffer? Every month I go through that horrible pain, I am like wish I was a guy but when I am a normal person with emotions and feelings and see guys being practical I'm like naw I don't wanna be man. Not saying all men are emotionless but some of them are weird lol no offense guys:). The point is this there are bigger things to fight over rather than men doing the house chores, women giving an apoourtunity to be in panj, women not able to stand that their husbands are considered superior. Somebody talked about touching other people's feet and I would touch everybody's feet because it will bring humility and humbleness. That's why we do shoe seva in gurdwara sahib so we can touch people's shoes and can become humble. There is a saakhi about 5th guru ji doing the shoes seva of the people who came to visit him if I am not wrong. I will find it and post it.
This world will become a much better place if people start learning that life is not about having equal rights, their rules and regulations, their religion, their attire. Life is about becoming what Guru Amardas ji was and other guru ji. I will highly suggest you to read sau saakhi, it has the stories of gurus and their humility, it's in English too. 
I know I said a lot and I am sorry for coming as very rude, did not mean too. I apologize.

There is so much fight and argument over gender inequality. One bad example I saw was when a Sikh couple got married and the female chose to walk side by side with him instead of being behind him because she thought if she walks behind him then there is not an equality. I know there are many men who dominant women like crazy and it's certainly wrong but I have seen many women who fight everywhere under the name of equal rights too. How are we going to learn the value of forgiveness if all we do is battle against the gender. My mom does not say my dads name and I never questioned that because Mata gujri ji never said the name of her husband. Of course, when I get married I will say his name since old time is gone but he will get proper respect and I won't have fights over gender rights. How can I conquer my anger and learn to see Vaheguroo in everyone while I am having an argument over that he did not help me while doing the dishes.
Gurbani teaches us to see Vaheguroo ji in everybody and learn to forgive others since in the end what matter most is our own actions. If I am a guy I can go around yelling I am a man and you woman worship me, respect me and in return I won't give you respect. This is wrong. If I am a woman, which I am lol. I can go around saying Nope, I won't do the dishes unless you help me since I believe in equal rights. I see that wrong, if I am not dying and can do dishes by myself I will do it lol. I know cheesy Example but I hope my point can be understood lol. 
when a person lower themselves it does not make them weak, it makes them stronger. If someone curse at you and you choose to stay quiet then you are not weak, you showed your strength. It's super easy to curse back but it takes real strength to not curse back and let it go. Speaking from my experience, people think I am weak when I stay quiet but in my mind I don't hurt others and is not cursing back at the Vaheguroo I see in them.
You all are more mature and experienced than me, sorry if said anything wrong.

no, see what specialists have to say, and but do keep simaran on as much as possible, with many many blessings.

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At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
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Pooranmashi is on 25th December (Christmas day). Please do review the first post in this topic.
Dhan Dhan Hazrat Isa Maseha jee (aka Jesus Christ)
Dhan Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj
 
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Reference: Life Stories of Great Sikh Saints by Dr.Hakam Singh
 
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Please listen to the encounter between Hazrat Isa jee (aka Jesus Christ) and a Shepherd, who has love for the Almighty Lord.
Please listen after 15:50 min:
http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/04-Katha/13-Giani%20Thakur%20Singh%20Ji%20%28Patiala%20Wale%29/Katha%20Sri%20Guru%20Granth%20Sahib%20Ji/CD09%28Ang0620-0747%29/0743-Ang-0728-Pankti-01.mp3
 
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Ram ji pervades everywhere.
"Vishnu" is the name of that being "one who resides everywhere".
Ram ji is an avtaar of Vishnu ji - meaning Ram ji resides everywhere.

Bro, if you have any doubt about this you can read just one of several texts that will clear your doubts -
Vishnu Puran
Bhagawad Puran
Valmiki Ramayan
Vishnu Sahasarnama

While Guru Amar Das ji was lying on this deathbed, about to be assimilated into the supreme jot, he said to his sikhs -
ਕੇਸੋ ਗੋਪਾਲ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਸਦਿਅਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕਥਾ ਪੜਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ਜੀਉ ॥
Call Pandit Keshav Gopal, and ask him to read Hari's Puran and do the katha.

So don't be shy when you are reading these Puran. These are the same books Guru Amar Das ji is listening to.


And you can see this belief system here -
ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥
In Satyug, You (Vishnu, the one who resides everywhere) enjoyed deceiving and liberating King Bali in the Vaman avtar.

Vaman Avtar of Vishnu ji is the avtar - physical representation of the the being who resides everywhere that is "Vishnu".
Vishnu means one who resides everywhere. And it's not simply a coincidence that he happens to have that name. If you read any of the texts above, the people who are talking about Vishnu, are talking about the Supreme Being who resides everywhere.

Read the story of Vaman avtaar -

(ਬਾਵਨ) Vaman asks for a donation from (ਬਲਿ) King Bali. He is a dwarf, who asks for 3 steps of land. King Bali grants him that. Then Vaman shows his real form, he expands so large that he spans everything! Realizing that it is Vishnu, King Bali becomes enlightened and bows down in humility. Upon seeing Vishnu, Bali bows down to become one with Vishnu; atma returns to parmatma.
ਛਲਿਓ - the deception or the trick that Vishnu ji plays on King Bali is that he appears as small but in reality he is this entity that is the entire cosmos itself. He is everything.
When Bali realizes this, he has what is called "darshan", an awakening, a realization of truth.

Note - King Bali was Prahlaad's (Vishnu bhagat) grandson.

Now read the rest of the shabad.

In Guru Granth Sahib, Kavi Kal ji says -
ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥
In Satyug, You (Vishnu, the one who resides everywhere) enjoyed deceiving and liberating King Bali in the Vaman avtar.
ਤ੍ਰੇਤੈ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਘੁਵੰਸੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
In Treta, You loved being called King Ram, of the Raghu Dynasty.
ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ ਕੰਸੁ ਕਿਰਤਾਰਥੁ ਕੀਓ ॥
In Dwapar, You, Krishan Murara, killed Kans and saved everyone.
ਉਗ੍ਰਸੈਣ ਕਉ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਭੈ ਭਗਤਹ ਜਨ ਦੀਓ ॥
You granted Kingship to Ugrasain and elevated your devotees.
ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਗਦੁ ਅਮਰੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
In Kaliyug, You came as Guru Nanak Dev, Guru Angad Dev and Guru Amar Das.
ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਬਿਚਲੁ ਅਟਲੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖਿ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਓ ॥੭॥
The rule of Guru Sahibs is unchanging, unmovable, by His very command.

Whether you agree with him or not, in this shabad, Kavi Kal ji is saying that Guru Sahibs are avtaars or Vishnu ji.

The idea of "Dhan Guru Nanak, Tuhi Nirankar" comes from this shabad by Kavi Kal ji.
 
Now do you get why this sentence is nonsense?
Poet Kal states that Vishnu/nirankar, incarnates as Vaman, then incarnates as Ram, then incarnates as Krishan then incarnates as Nanak.

thank you ji,
i think it is entirely based on one's worldly outlook based on inner spiritual avashta, and the following sakhi is indicative of such example: 
"With the conclusion of evening program at 11:30 PM, Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj went to bhora sahib, and also instructed kirtani jatha to rest until the next Amritvela program. As every body in the kirtan jatha was asleep, Baba Ji’s sevadar abruptly woke the kirtani jatha members, and told them to come back quickly as Baba Ji wants them to do kirtan. 
Everyone puzzled and still sleepy, came back. They requested Baba Ji that it is early than the scheduled time, and also they have not taken bath. Usually jatha members are required to take bath before they start program. Baba Ji said do not worry just undertake five ablutions, and start Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankar. The Jatha read the dhaarna from 1:00 to 2.30 AM. Then Baba Ji told them to go back. Jatha members could not comprehend the exact reason for this abrupt kirtan but had a sense that something must have happened. No body asked anything about the mystery.
Next day in the diwan, the question relating to the last night occurrence came up. Baba Ji smiled and said that last night Hazrat Mohammed Sahib Ji came with his quawali jatha, first they did the kirtan. Then Hazrat Mohammed highly praised the Dhan Guru Nanak Nirankar dhaarna, and liked to have his kirtani jatha to do the same, and hence unfolded the mystery. "

The Gnosis of Kali Yuga

An anecdote from the life of Srimaan 108 Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale:
 

 
Reference: Life Stories of Great Sikh Saints by Dr.Hakam Singh
 
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An encounter between Srimaan 108 Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale and an Arya Samaji woman:
 

 
Reference: Life Stories of Great Sikh Saints by Dr.Hakam Singh
 
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The above should prove that an expert Astrologer has a very good chance to spot a Brahamgyani.
 
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An anecdote from the life of Srimaan Sant Baba Attar Singh jee Mastuanaywale:
 

 
Reference:  Life Story of Sant Attar Singh ji by Harbans Singh Doabia
 
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An anecdote from the life of Srimaan 108 Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale:
 

 
Reference: Life Stories of Great Sikh Saints by Dr.Hakam Singh
 
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Significance of Palmistry (which is linked to Astrology):
 

 
Reference: Life Stories of Great Sikh Saints by Dr.Hakam Singh
 
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ਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਕੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lc4NebPjs8
 
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