Nek Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 SSA all, I have been pondering for the last few weeks, how the khanda was designed the way it is. It couldnt just fell in to place just like that, neither would Guru Gobind Singh ji just appeared it from nowhere. how was it merged? how was it put together? when did it really start? how/who manifiested it? I know the basic answers (not boasting) but would really appriciate if someone could really explain from the root. Thank you P.S The new site looks much better and friendlier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 MIRI TE PIRI...from GURU HARGOVIND SAHIB SAINT SIPAHI! One kirpan for spiritual freedom and one for self defence (please correct me if i'm wrong) Round Chaka = GUR BAR AKAL...God is eternal like a circle gotta find that site..I can't find right now which shows what each symbol respresents :? once again please correct me if i'm wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 vjkkvjkf the khanda sikh symbol was developed sometime around maharaja ranjit singhs time. i was told it was created when singhs put their shastars infront of guruji (guru granth sahib ji). i guess they just liked what they saw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khandaydhaar Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Da two swords represent Sri Guru HarGobind Singh Sahib jis Miri Piri Swords. One for Spiritual/Religous freedom, and the other is for defence of oneself and others. Chakar represents endless and beginingless (ahem xcuse me for da words from Khandaydhaar dictionary!) God, since a circle has no begining and end and datz wat our karas represent also. The double edge khanda has two sides, i think dey represent Gods (something)...gota find out aye...oh yeh da tip of da khanda is supposed to represent ones soul like where da soul or mind (im confused now!) or conciousness, i think da ppl who take amrit! i read somthin like dat on da net...but gota find out again! yeh da site looks much beta u modz deserve patz on da bak! i really like how we can post a reply below! cool! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 by khanda are you refering to the shastar (double edged sword) or the khanda as in the newly adopted symbol of sikhism? if its the later, then its from Raja Ranjeet Singhs time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 newly? ...why newly? Pivo paul KHANDE DHAAR! was Khanda not used 1699? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 I forgot but there is one Shabad. Khanda pritmi saaj kea? Can someone put some light on that shabad and how it relates to this Khanda? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhsingh Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 r u taking about the KHanda Symbol of The Sikhs, or are u taking about the Double Edged Sword the Khanda???? plz make it clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nek Posted December 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Yes im talking about the khanda as the symbol of the sikhs. Is there a difference? let me rephase the question How was the khanda formed the way it is. who placed it the way it is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihal_Kaur Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 yo, the khanda is the double edged sword.....also known as bhagauti 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Bhagauti... Bapu Ji dont u mean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_princess Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 its sad how the khanda symbol has been abused... VERY SAD!!!! (thaz all i gotta say... sorry i can't help, i think i knwo the answer, but i juz dun wanna say cuz then i mite not really knowww!!!) keep on smilinggggggggg (imagine a chunni on da smily) lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihal_Kaur Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 heres an intresting remark a shia made about the khanda, if stretched in a certain way it spells out allah.. i have requested he give an example and will post it up on the site when i get it.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 really, is that with the chakar on the khandha?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 u stretch out anything in a way and it will spell something in arabic... its all squiggly lines to me :stupid: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadz Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 i was told that too about the khanda meaning allah, by a half persian half german geezer at uni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 i been looking at some styles of writing allah, and have basically noticed that if you take out the chakar you are left with a symbol similiar to the iranian flag (which also spells out allah) im not a master in persian but here goes an attempt to explain how to get allah from the khanda, (remember persian is read right to left) take out the chakar the sword on the right is similiar to a straight line going down (in this case its curved and shaped like a sword) this is the letter a, --Purple-- L is the letter L (this is the khanda which comes in the middle) -L --Black-- the sword on the left forms the other L shape - L --Blue the handle of the right sword (the little circle bit) forms the ah - ah --red so you get allah..........................................., [flipv:a6454e343d] V[/flipv:a6454e343d] , Then put the chakar in for decoration.........[ }{ ] sorry for the crap diagram...........................' T /' but you got to give me some credit ............ ; ! : so thats how u get allah from the khanda symbol of the sikhs :twisted: lol so i guess those people who call me RSS will now think im Iatolla Dynameenee :twisted: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 http://www.islamicity.com/culture/Calligraphy/Calig12.htm heres another way of writing allah, the w shaped word with a tail coming off it and going up is the word allah you can see how its similiar just that the khanda is shaped using weapons.. another intresting note is that if you take out the chakar you are left with a remarkable ressemblence to the tarsool (trident) a symbol of shivji (hinduism) could adding the chakar signify the union of islam and hinduism under one flag? the sikh flag?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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