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    sukrit kaur reacted to Ragmaala in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    Here are some examples/sakhis showing Power of Gurbani that I have come across. Please elaborate on them. I dont have all the details.
    Story of Mardana, Bala, & Guru Nanak in Dhaka vs the evil sorcereses Noorshah etc Singh of Sant Gurbachan Singh Khalsa in calcutta, vs Tantric, Moolmantar vs Tantric, tantric died in process Patwari in england who did 31 mala Moolmantar from past 30 years vs Muslim peer from Kenya who had knowledge of 14 ilams. Sant Ishar Singh Ji rara & Suleman Baba Ishar Singh Ji vs a ghost in haveli of Delhi Baba Nand Singh ji & many entities, who ended up offering their services to Baba Ji Baba Nand Singh Ji vs Kalyug, who run due to power of Sukhmani Sahib Baba Harnam Singh Rampur kheda vs ghost during a shila Story of Maasi Ji, power of Chandi di var  
    If you have other stories, please share, and elaborate on the above mentioned.
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Koi in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    Once I got a chance to talk to a very special soul.He just said me one thing:
    " kyi vaar asii jaana kite hor hunda par apni chanchlata kr k puj kite hor jaane a"
    These words are ringing in my head at the time.
    So,Never NEVER let your limited buddhi to conquer your mind.
    Dhan Guru Ram Dass Patsah baksh lo!!
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from tva prasad in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    We can't even compare Baba nand singh ji with anyone.
    But Bhai Sahib were a great soul.Why are we comparing him with mahapurkhs?
    Gurbani says: 
    Jinna Saas graas na visray har Naama har mant
    Dhan sey saeyi Nanaka pooran soyii sant.
    So how can we forget about their spiritual jiwan and kamai..
    You know when we start to ignore one's 1000 good karams in front of just 1 bad karam(and when even it's done in anjaanpuna not with a sure intention),then it's only gonna effect US.
    We dont know about how much love,bhagti and satkaar he had towards MAharaj..how he sacrificed his entire life for sake of god's Name.
    Are we gyani enough to explore their relations with almighty?He could end his swaas thru 10th door.Guru Maharaj gave him Darshan and Naam himself.Just give a reading to Jail jithiyan.certainly it will give you goose bumps.
    when it comes to Raagmala.His intention was still to love his guru.He thought it's not guru's baani.he was not doing so with intention to go against guru's.
    All I want to say is that when one person like me of very lowwww awastha use words to oppose such Greatttt souls,then certainly he's gonna have a hard way ahead.
    P.S 
    I'm wondered how ppl who are not even 1% of saints are using words like how  could he do that ?? And judging him??
    If Baba Nand Singh Ji were here at this time and Bhai sahib were here too,then you could hear the bachans of Baba Nand singh  Ji towards him..
    Jey ohna to galti hoyi v hovegi ta V ajj oh maharaj de ghar breejmaan hon ge q k ohna de kamai di roshni agge ahh bhul kuj v nhi c.
    So we should better focus on our own kamai.Pta nhi saada ki banu..Es gal baare jyada sochiye!!
    Gur fateh!
     
     
     
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Kaur Inder in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    Satkirin Bhenji Ji,
    WJKK WJKF!!
    I want to say you very few lines:
    You/we are very lucky to be ones who are provided with a chance to read Nirankaars words/Gurbani/SGGSJ..
    And now you've decided to take Amrit.I can't congratulate you in appropriate words for this.In the way you are exploring the things clearly shows your affection /love/curiosty towards Guru Maharaj.
    Bhenji, Let your doubts be cleared before you do your ceremony.But Dont allow yourself to indulge in an illusion.Just think what is waiting for you..Your one step gonna remove distance of miles b/ you and your Guru.These are just opposing forces which are trying to restrict your progress.
    Okay!!
    About Amrit:
    I think 5 panj pyaarey are physical representation of Guru Maharaj himself at the time.It's not like It's done after taking amrit.All depends upon spiritual awastha of panj pyaareys.Like in above saakhi light entered.I think the light entered because these males were spiritually enlightened ones.How can That divine jyot enters in a person with no spiritual qualities.
    All I want to say is that dont focus on gender of panj pyaareys like they must be men or women.Just pray these 5 souls must be True Gurmukhs who have done enough kamai in their lives.I read somewhere if One of panj pyaareys is a Brahmgyani,then you wilk have a very great spiritual journey.Just do ardaas again and again "Maharaj I want to be yours.I want to achieve what I couldnt achieve in previous lives.I'm not here to differentiate between men or women.I'm here to merge in nirankaar jyot.Please send me to these Great 5 singhs who can give me what I really need.I dont want to loose this chance.This seems to be my final chance.I'm moorkh/foolish one.I've no wisdom.How can I find true gurmukhs?It's you who will send them for me.O sachepatsh!! Dasam Patsah !! All is in your hands.please show mercy upon me and send these great 5 souls for me so that I enters in your home/my true home.please!! Do an arrangement for me..Kaal is running after me.I dun want to be eaten at his hands.Give me the true Naam and then give me courage to do kamai of that Naam.I want to enjoy sehaj anand as per your words:
    Anhad Shabad Dasam Dwaar Vajeyo ,teh Amrit Naam ChUaYa thaa
    (The unstruck sounds of the shabad vibrates and resounds in the tenth gate,the ambrosial Naam trickles down there)
    This is my only request to you"
    Certainly Maharaj will help you.
     
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Koi in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    I completely understand ur situation satkirin bhen ji.And The Hukamnaama you got clearly indicates Maharaaj's kirpa on you.This shabad has given me goose bumps.Dhan Dhan Dhan Guru sahib!!
    Akaal Hi Akaal!!
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    sukrit kaur reacted to paapiman in Darghai Parshaad -- don't miss this amazing opportunity   
    Sangat jee, please read about this amazing opportunity, which has been given to us by Srimaan Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Maharaaj Kalrenwale. This can be done, pooranmashi (full moon night) to pooranmashi.
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    Blessing of Sri Guru Granth Sahib was supreme and He advised everyone to invoke that blessing by completing one path of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in a month in the following manner:
     
    Complete recitation of the whole of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in a month. Complete 50 paths of Sri Sukhmani Sahib in a month; recite 2 paths of Sri Sukhmani Sahib daily. Complete 250 paths of Jap Ji Sahib in a month; recite 10 paths of JapJi Sahib daily. Complete 180 Malas (Rosary Mala of 108 beads) of Mool Mantra (from Ekonkar to Nanak Hosi Bhi Such) in a month; do six malas daily. Complete 80 Malas daily of Gur Mantar 'Waheguru'; 20 Malas of Waheguru if the Nam is recited four times on each bead. Complete 160 Malas daily of Ram (Nam); 40 Malas if Ram is recited four times on each bead A Mohammedan was advised to practice and recite the name of Allah on each bead as above. Unquote [1]
    [1] - http://babanandsinghsahib.org/maryada/dargahiticket.htm
    Note: This can also be done in partnerships. For example, one can do 3 malas (in case of Mool mantar jaap) and his parent/wife/sibling can do the remaining 3 malas. If three people split it, then it will only be 2 malas daily.
     
    Advantages:
    -  It can help discipline the mind, as it will be done on a daily basis (in case of Mool mantar and Gurmantar jaap).
    -  One will receive the phal (benefit) of one Sehaj Paath of SSGGSJ.
    -  Even an illiterate person like me, can do it (in case of Waheguru mantar jaap).
    -  One can do it at anytime and anywhere (in case of Mool mantar, Gurmantar jaap, etc).
    -  If split between two people, it will only take approximately 1 hr or so.
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    sukrit kaur reacted to mahanpaapi in Darghai Parshaad -- don't miss this amazing opportunity   
    Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankaar

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    sukrit kaur reacted to das in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    Recently on this forum and in general view: there is always tension between the groups in regards to "If women can be part of Panj Payaras or not". Every group has its own rigid explanations for their views.
    Group-1 says that yes, women can be part of Panj payaras. Their core reason is the bani as explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Group-2 says that no, women cannot be part of Panj payars. Their core reason is because women didn't  offer their head that day or say Guru Ji didn't ask. Some also say that women is not capable of preparing Amrit. Group-3 says that we've to follow the establised tradition and should not allow women to be part of Panj-payars but if any women is Brahmgyani, then its okay. Their core reason is that since the creation of Khalsa and all along during the times of great Saints, everyone suggested that women cannot be Panj Payaras. Now, I do NOT want to stretch this boring conversation to further but I DO want to present my personal views which seems to be opposite to the above mentioned groups at-the face value but in deeper sense it does resonate with them. So, please do NOT post same old reasons/explanations to prove your point. But I invite all memebers to please share your thoughts on this topic without indulging in baseless claims and let's have a Open Mind discussion.
    I also request everyone to carefully read the whole topic first and then send your response. Please do NOT read causally or just scan and then post the same thing which was in your head (pre-programmed).
    My personal view is: No, women cannot be part of Panj Payaras because the Amrit prepared during Sanskar Amrit is still within the sphere of "Laws of Universe" unless a Brahmgyani (any gender) is involved.
    In other words, Amrit is prepared with its roots in Duality (opposites coming together). And anything in duality needs to have opposite forces coming together: Shiva and Shakti. Shakti is represented by the Khanda/Sword/Bagauti and Shiva power needs to be in the form of 5 males (Five are required to move Seven to Twelve in Space). As this physical Amrit is NOT the real Amrit (real Amrit being Naam Amrit), therefore in order to prepare it one needs to have correct ingredients: Positive and Negative forces. One cannot prepare the strongest Amrit (which acts as initiation for Guru and will further lead to Raas) with the use of un-balanced ingredients.
    Now, why I think that Sanskar Amrit is within the Sphere of Laws: It is because:
    The 5K's (Kara, Kangha, Kachera, Kirpan, Kesh/Kesge) symbols are the physical symbols; they DO represent Spiritual purposes but still they are just physical symbols. How could we ridicule Janeu (Hindu thread) as manmat; janeu could also represent some Spiritual principle. So, how could we mock janeu but for 100% in for 5Ks as physical symbols? Guru Gobind Singh Ji choosing only men or say God only pushing man to stand for the cause DOES hold some purpose. As Guru Ji was 100% sure regarding what was written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and as per Guru Granth Sahib Ji, man and woman does have equal opportunity and rights. So, he would not go against Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In Bachittar Natak, Guru has mentioned that in His previous life (not physical though) how he once fight with the demons and won the war. This is the time when Bhagauti told Guru Ji that when He will go to Earth for the establishment of new dharma, then She would offer her services and this is the reason Khanda is used while preparing Amrit. And Panj-Payas does represent Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Gobind Singh Ji has told several times in history that He should NOT be considered God. Here I'm NOT trying to say that He was not God; I'm just trying to bring up the point that no Guru before Guru Gobind Singh Ji has said that in the same tone. He is not trying to be humble, may be He is trying to tell us something (that he indicated in His writings) Guru Gobind Singh Ji's birth and the creation of Khalsa was the requirement of those times but Guru Ji did NOT abolish the place of Saint/Sant (some call it physical Guru). e.g If you see all the yesteryear Sants after the creation of Khalsa, even though they did come under the umbrella of Khalsa but they are also the student under their respective Senior Teachers/Gurus/Sants. If the intention of any Guru (any 10 Gurus) was of to abolish the trend of physical Sant, then surely They must have provided in written format the Arths/Meanings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But They did not do that because the key to the hidden treasures of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is still with the Sants. So, wraping up I could say that: Guru Gobind Singh Ji did come for different purpose (as per the requirement of time and order of Waheguru) and fullfilled His purpose; and his purpose was not the same as that of first 5 Gurus and 9th Guru. Even 6, 7, 8th Guru Ji have not recorded Their Bani in Guru Granth Sahib Ji as They were preparing the ground for the coming of 10th Guru. Read the story of Bib Bhani. Guru Gobind Singh Ji explicitly stated many times this fact in His writings: Bachittar Natak and His other writings. It is just us (the normal people) who didn't look deep enough.
    At last, I'm NOT saying that Khalsa was that time's need and we need not take Amrit. I'm just saying that people start debating this vs that without understanding the purpose of creation of Khalsa. Sometimes in different ingredients (having different powers) are necessary to bring up the Neutral/Precious stuff. e.g It is believed that lead could be transformed into gold in alchemy.
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    sukrit kaur reacted to CdnSikhGirl in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    This is exactly why I have decided not to take Amrit.  (And fearing what this might mean for my upcoming marriage) I can't justify doing something which sees me as inferior simply for being in a body which I had no control over.  I do not want to have to feel like I am incapable of progressing spiritually without being dragged along by males like I am some spiritually inferior tag along who has to be dragged to liberation by males because females are too inferior.  Because obviously Amrit Sanchar is not what I thought it was, that is why I have decided not to take it.  I truly do not believe women are completely reliant on men to progress spiritually, and I do not believe Guru's light only comes to males.  Because then that begs the question, why was I born in this inferior disgusting body to begin with?  Was 'Seeker' right? Is this a punishment? To always be seen as lowly, inferior, disgusting, incapable, that even Guru Ji's light avoids?  I almost don't even want to continue.  I will just hope and pray I am born a male next time because I have given up on this body if it is seen so disgustingly by Singhs. 
    If majority of Singhs think like this then maybe I am even questioning Sikhi alltogether now.  
    By the way Granthi also does not need to be a Singh Paapiman.  A female can be Granthi too. 
    Ibrute I did do Hukam and this is the shabad that came up and it seems to disagree with the above katha saying the Light only comes to males.  
    ਆਵਹੁ ਭੈਣੇ ਤੁਸੀ ਮਿਲਹੁ ਪਿਆਰੀਆ ॥
    Āvhu bẖaiṇe ṯusī milhu pi▫ārī▫ā.
    Come, dear sisters-let us join together.

    ਜੋ ਮੇਰਾ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮੁ ਦਸੇ ਤਿਸ ਕੈ ਹਉ ਵਾਰੀਆ ॥
    Jo merā parīṯam ḏase ṯis kai ha▫o vārī▫ā.
    I am a sacrifice to the one who tells me of my Beloved.

    ਮਿਲਿ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਲਧਾ ਹਰਿ ਸਜਣੁ ਹਉ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਟਹੁ ਘੁਮਾਈਆ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥
    Mil saṯsangaṯ laḏẖā har sajaṇ ha▫o saṯgur vitahu gẖumā▫ī▫ā jī▫o. ||1||
    Joining the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, I have found the Lord, my Best Friend. I am a sacrifice to the True Guru. ||1||

    ਜਹ ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਤਹ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥
    Jah jah ḏekẖā ṯah ṯah su▫āmī.
    Wherever I look, there I see my Lord and Master.

    ਤੂ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿਆ ਅੰਤਰਜਾਮੀ ॥
    Ŧū gẖat gẖat ravi▫ā anṯarjāmī.
    You are permeating each and every heart, O Lord, Inner-knower, Searcher of Hearts.

    ਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਲਿ ਦਿਖਾਲਿਆ ਹਉ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਟਹੁ ਸਦ ਵਾਰਿਆ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥
    Gur pūrai har nāl ḏikẖāli▫ā ha▫o saṯgur vitahu saḏ vāri▫ā jī▫o. ||2||
    The Perfect Guru has shown me that the Lord is always with me. I am forever a sacrifice to the True Guru. ||2||

    ਏਕੋ ਪਵਣੁ ਮਾਟੀ ਸਭ ਏਕਾ ਸਭ ਏਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਬਾਈਆ ॥
    Ėko pavaṇ mātī sabẖ ekā sabẖ ekā joṯ sabā▫ī▫ā.
    There is only one breath; all are made of the same clay; the light within all is the same.

    ਸਭ ਇਕਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਵਰਤੈ ਭਿਨਿ ਭਿਨਿ ਨ ਰਲਈ ਕਿਸੈ ਦੀ ਰਲਾਈਆ ॥
    Sabẖ ikā joṯ varṯai bẖin bẖin na ral▫ī kisai ḏī ralā▫ī▫ā.
    The One Light pervades all the many and various beings. This Light intermingles with them, but it is not diluted or obscured.

    ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਇਕੁ ਨਦਰੀ ਆਇਆ ਹਉ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਟਹੁ ਵਤਾਇਆ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥
    Gur parsādī ik naḏrī ā▫i▫ā ha▫o saṯgur vitahu vaṯā▫i▫ā jī▫o. ||3||
    By Guru's Grace, I have come to see the One. I am a sacrifice to the True Guru. ||3||

    ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬੋਲੈ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਣੀ ॥
    Jan Nānak bolai amriṯ baṇī.
    Servant Nanak speaks the Ambrosial Bani of the Word.

    ਗੁਰਸਿਖਾਂ ਕੈ ਮਨਿ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਭਾਣੀ ॥
    Gursikẖāʼn kai man pi▫ārī bẖāṇī.
    It is dear and pleasing to the minds of the GurSikhs.

    ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਕਰੇ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਰਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਉਪਕਾਰੀਆ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੭॥
    Upḏes kare gur saṯgur pūrā gur saṯgur par▫upkārī▫ā jī▫o. ||4||7||
    The Guru, the Perfect True Guru, shares the Teachings. The Guru, the True Guru, is Generous to all. ||4||7||
     
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    sukrit kaur reacted to ibrute in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    I have heard in katha, that one abhiyasi (highly spiritual stage) was sitting during the amrit sanchaar ceremony solely for this purpose alone that whether women who partake in panj pyaare were actually able to initiate the askers. He told that NO panj pyaare whether "men or women" can initiate the new ones, because only Guru has the right to initiate the new comers. So what actually happens in the ceremony is, after panj pyaare do ardas to start the sanchaar process by first reading five bani's. Then they collectively do ardas along with sangat to Guru Granth Sahib Jee maharaj to allow them to distribute the amrit to the seekers. Now, here is what happens as this highly spiritual told us, light(jot) from Guru Granth Sahib enters the body of the panj pyaare's and Guru himself initiate the new ones. He says that women who were in panj pyaare service, light did not enter their body, so real amrit process is interrupted; though outwardly we can say we got amrit. Also light did not enter disabled ones too.
    Why light(jot) did enter men and not women/diabled ones, who knows, why? except guru himself, and we can ask this question to Guru himself only when we meet him (means we need high spiritual stage) and we need to be amritdhari for that.
    My point is even if we want to be critical of this account as told by this person, why would we take risk of taking amrit from women/disable ones. It is already established that sikhs who take amrit from five men, reached to the god, brahamgyaan, history told us. Does we have account of single brahamgyani initiated by women.
    All the effort we put in, nitnem, waking early/doing simran, and what if nothing happens after we are initiated by women. If after our demise we ask god; I did everything you told, but no spritual stage for me, why? God could say who told you to do man-mat and take amrit which you think is suitable. We wont be able to answer it.
    So, my point is why take risk just to prove your thinking right, when Guru says leave your thinking at the door.
    Dont ask why this, why that, Just use your mind to accomplish what Guru told you to do, Simran, Rehat and Gurbani. Don't be a wise-ass.
    This comment for satkiran never say that any person here on this forum or any where else can speak for Guru, If Guru want to talk to you, he will do himself, he did not need us to speak for him. If you want to know what Guru thinks ask Guru Granth Sahib jee maharaj, take hukamnama.
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    sukrit kaur reacted to das in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    If anyone claims something to be perfect on the face-value, then he/she is bound to prove it and giving one's our account is perfect way. So, in other words, it's not the personal details. See bro, I'm not pulling your leg or trying to prove you wrong, but I just want to show you the reality. Don't go for right-wing thinking or left-wing thinking. You're bound to get failures. Follow the middle-path as suggested in Guru Ji.
    Sikhism as religion would NOT take you anywhere. Come out of your dream world. But the teachings of Sikhism (as written down in Guru Granth Sahib Ji) does have potential to lead you on the path of salvation quickly. But there are 2 conditions that must be fulfilled by anyone who want to ride fastest to salvation:
    1. Understand the real meaning and core concepts of Gurbani. e.g Karma, Upsana, Gyan, importance of Guru etc.
    2. And then Practice those teachings.
    These days, people have forgot the conditions but just claim that Sikhism is the fastest or some say the only. Real Sikhism is not what you see these days. Sikhism is NOT about the Amrit Sanchar, or Panj Payare, or equality vs inequality, or this vs that. It's sad to see that day by day, common people are converting the Sikhism into some package/box and then marketing it. Wake up.
    You might remember the conversation with Suleman with sangat during Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji's (Rara Sahib wale) time. Suleman was asked which religion is best: Listen to it and then understand the core he is talking about. He specifically mentioned that everything is same but in Sikhism it is easier to follow a Saint whereas in other religions (referring to Muslims) going to a Saint is NOT allowed.
    Bottom-line is:
    Sikhism was supposed to be fastest lane ONLY when: One understands the real meanings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and does understand that there is a need for REAL Saints and practice the teachings.
    One Saint has given the following flow-chart to achieve Salvation:
    1. Do the company of Sant/Mahapurash/Saint.
    2. If you cannot do that, then do Naam (Meditation); Dan/Charity of 10% of your income to needy; Isnan (Bath).
    3. If you cannot do Naam, Dan, and Isnan, then do not overburden yourself with sins. In other words, avoid doing sins.
    4. If you cannot refain from sins, then it is better to die because without doing steps 1, 2, 3 you are bound to fall to lower planes.
    Are not the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji teach exactly what is mentioned in the above 4 steps? Think about it.
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    sukrit kaur reacted to CdnSikhGirl in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    Sukrit Kaur Bhenji .... Crystal is the same person who called me a transvestite and man in drag because I tie a dastaar... All he knows how to do is insult others while boosting his own ego.  Notice how he bad mouths AKJ ? Even Jarnail Singh Bindranwale had high views of AKJ.  And that attitude he has towards AKJ is the same way he sees us Singhnis. In fact the last few days posts saying we are female because we are being punished only shows how they see us.  And by they I don't mean all men or all Singhs before anyone jumps on me... I mean they as in certain Singhs on this forum and they know who they are. No not you Singh12345677$
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    sukrit kaur reacted to das in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    What a disgrace Crystal. Where did Guru Ji instructed to be bad mouth for girls. Have some shame, you were talking to a female member (Sukrit Kaur) and using such a bad language. Very sad. If you want to debate, first learn to be Human. Isn't Nimrata the first requirement to be on the path of Sikhism??
    One should be level minded to know when, where and how to do Jhatka..........Fools are bound to give Jhatka/sudden-stock to their own necks.......so, beware, otherwise Karmas will give a proper Jhatka.
    I am NOT sure why Admins have not edited/deleted this crystal's degrading posts.
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Ragmaala in Please discuss this Gurbani Pankti !   
    It may be a neutral statement,but if it's so then there would be no need to highlight if you do so then wilk be born as a female.
    For example:
    If a person has to reach a particular place,then he needs a vehicle to travel the distance.let assume there are 4 ones.
    Ist one gets a chance to travel in a mercedes.
    2nd one gets a chance to travel but can't get a seat.He has to travel the entire distance without much comforts.
    3rd one gets chance to travel without any vehicle.He gotta walk on feet.
    And fourth one doesnt even get a chance .
    Here I take 1st one as male human,2nd one as female human,3rd one as any physically handicapped one or any transgender.
    And last one any organism except human.
    So Every one will prefer to be the first one.
    But it doesnt mean if Ist one is provided with all facilities then definitely gonna reach the destination.He may face an accident.
    And In same manner 2nd or 3rd ones can reach their destinations even having difficulities.
    So That's why female bodied soul is highlighted in the tuk As If you will worship devi then you'll be born as  awoman and then you will have to face many kind of hardships to meet your lord husband.And A true lover wife wilk never be ready to increase the difficulities between the union with her lord husband.
    So , it's regarded as a punishment.But it depends upon an individual woman whether being born as a woman is acting like a punishment to her or not..
    Because whatever we say it's little difficult for a woman to live her life like other great saints.Like we know baba nand singh ji never allowed to meet a woman alone,so here we can estimate the advantage of being born as a man over woman.
    So only difficulities increases but surely doors are always open and very few determined and brave souls get the chance to reach their destination.
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    sukrit kaur reacted to paapiman in Please discuss this Gurbani Pankti !   
    Bro, ask yourself, do you want to become a woman in your next life? Daas does not. 
    A male body does not have to deal with the hardships, which a female body faces.
    -  Menstruation
    -  Mood swings
    -  Pregnancy (if trying to be a mother) 
    -  Postnatal period (after birth)
    -  Postmenopausal issues (for some)
    -  On average, less physical strength
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    sukrit kaur reacted in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    This is Satkirin

    Sukrit Kaur Bhanji,  There is nothing saying you have to be married, or that you can't live alone. I have lived alone for last 15 years, with a full career.  No domestic homemaking for me.
    Seeker, there are no restrictions in Sikhism on women at all.  Some specific sects of Sikhism have limited women from the one most important seva (I think men just need something to keep to themselves so they always have that one thing to say they can do that women can't - I think they are actually jealous of not being able to give birth.... however if they knew the pain and danger associated with it - pain levels that can reach higher than any other thing the human body can go through and still remain conscious - I don't think they would consider it a privilege anymore but instead a curse).  Anyway Das mentioned just reading the Sikh holy book and go by that nothing else... That's what I do.  I pay no attention to specific sects or their different rules or supposed 'traditions'.  I follow the base teachings only which is called Gurbani.  I find it very silly that Paapiman says that female body is incapable of making amrit (the 'nectar' he mentioned for baptism which is basically water with sugar in it) It consists of the five most spiritually active SIkhs in the congregation being selected to prepare it, and it involves being in a certain pose for awhile, and stirring the amrit with a sword called a khanda while reciting the proper prayers around it.  Sugar puffs are added to the water.  And then it is sprinkled on the initiates hair, eyes and they drink it.  The basic code of conduct for baptized Sikihs is also told to the initiates at this time... and even these rules differ between sects because they can't agree on them.  But even the sects which disallow women to be part of these five chosen, their own code of conduct doesn't actually say that women can't. It's just sort of carried on as tradition and nobody can come to an actual consensus as to why.  Some say that women gave away their equality with men on the day that the first baptism took place because no women volunteered to give their life on the spot.. only 5 men did.  However, the way I look at it, is from the holy book - Gurbani, which says gender is not even real, it's part of this illusion. So the souls that volunteered that day just happened to be men. Since ALL souls are the same and genderless, then any soul can be one of those five.  Gender is inconsequential.  Any roadblocks you encounter in life because of being female, were all created by humans only - some initated by men, some continued because of women (sometimes we are our worst enemy).  But just remember that you can do anything and accomplish anything. Some things might be more difficult physically than if you were a man, but other things might be easier mentally (multitasking etc) as those extra hormones actually enable us to deal with more things at once... that includes complex things like multiple math equations at once while men can only deal with a single task at one time.  It has nothing to do with physical differences in the brain as Paapiman stated but in how the chemical processes work. And these differences do not mean one is spiritually lower than the other.  They are only required because as a 'sexual' vs asexual species we need to reproduce with each other.  And this happened because if we were asexual (no gender) then everyone would essentially be a clone and genetic anomalies would ensue.  So it was only to be able to have a diverse population. 
    As I said, any limitations IN ANY RELIGION, was the result of human thinking and not God's.  Follow only Gurbani (Sikh scripture) and not rules of different sects. They can't speak for everyone.  And there ARE sects that DO allow women to be part of the Panj Pyaras and they HAVE baptized people and the world didn't end...
    Actually its funny... I am kind of in the same boat as you.. only I was called a man in drag because I chose to tie a turban.  But turban is supposed to be for both male and females... and I was feeling so low I actually took the insult as a compliment because I felt like being a female was becoming limiting because of these things imposed on us by the  men.  Then I realized, that these limitations were created by humans and not God.  If you feel limited somewhere - go elsewhere where you are appreciated more.  But don't give up on spirituality ever... I know without a doubt God is real.
     


     
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Koi in Please discuss this Gurbani Pankti !   
    I  think (may be I'm wrong) there is nothing to do with gender to attain salvation.IF IT's not,then there would be no great female saints like wife of bhagat kabir ji ,mata sundar kaur ji etc.
    Everyone scares of punishments.So if I say that Being born as a woman is a punishment,then it think it's right.It's not the punishment like you cannot attain salvation or something like that.It's punishment in different sense.Infact every soul who takes birth has to carry some pains.If there would be no karms left ,then he might have not got this body.
    Some souls get punishment in form of being born as a woman.Because a woman has to go through many emotional and physical pains.like she has to go thru  menstrual cycle every month,then has to carry a child in her womb then major one to give so painful birth to a child.Additionally she gets a weak physical stature compared to men.And other emotional and worldly attachments in form of Mamta with her children.
    so that's why it's counted as a punishment.But still it doest not mean she can't attain salvation.Some men are too having their punishments in other forms.Infact everyone's having.Then does it mean They can't attain salvation?
    So being born as a woman,one has to face many difficulities to walk easily on their spiritual path,but undoubtedly she can achieve the ultimate truth.All depends upon Maharaj's kirpa.
     
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from tva prasad in Being Born Female Is Karmic Punishment?   
    Being a woman myself, I have never thought much about my gender.Sometime I do think like If I were a man,then could do bhagti or meditation without social hindrances like no ghrasti no marriage only meditation and could reside anywhere alone.These are my only concerns with my gender.Then at same other time,my soul answers I can still do all these things That's just an illusion nd is trying to restrict my progression.If my inner will and love is strong enough then Maharaj can help to achieve the impossible.
    So I think Such thoughts which are creating doubts in your mind may be a big trap of Maya to create hindrances or may act like a key for your hidden door.Choice is yours.What you want to come out of these thoughts? Anyways It sounds easy but still everything's in waheguru's hand.So again and again do ardaas.He will himself answer you.and answer is within you.As you 'll found nothing outside.So close your physical ears and try to listen to the divine sound that's only within yourself.You'll certainly be answered.
    And Don't feel bad being born as a female.Infact ,Do thanks to almighty in all possible ways to bless you with this human body.Many many many souls are yearning to take birth as a human.Just keep thanking for having this life.Otherwise,if it finishes without any achievment,then it will be so hard even to have this female body.
    Gur fateh!!
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from Ragmaala in Please discuss this Gurbani Pankti !   
    I  think (may be I'm wrong) there is nothing to do with gender to attain salvation.IF IT's not,then there would be no great female saints like wife of bhagat kabir ji ,mata sundar kaur ji etc.
    Everyone scares of punishments.So if I say that Being born as a woman is a punishment,then it think it's right.It's not the punishment like you cannot attain salvation or something like that.It's punishment in different sense.Infact every soul who takes birth has to carry some pains.If there would be no karms left ,then he might have not got this body.
    Some souls get punishment in form of being born as a woman.Because a woman has to go through many emotional and physical pains.like she has to go thru  menstrual cycle every month,then has to carry a child in her womb then major one to give so painful birth to a child.Additionally she gets a weak physical stature compared to men.And other emotional and worldly attachments in form of Mamta with her children.
    so that's why it's counted as a punishment.But still it doest not mean she can't attain salvation.Some men are too having their punishments in other forms.Infact everyone's having.Then does it mean They can't attain salvation?
    So being born as a woman,one has to face many difficulities to walk easily on their spiritual path,but undoubtedly she can achieve the ultimate truth.All depends upon Maharaj's kirpa.
     
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    sukrit kaur reacted to Ragmaala in Radha Soami exposed   
    All I have learnt so far is that we should always keep an open mind, never jump to conclusions right away, do not accept nor reject right away, weigh it on the scale of Gurbani, gather the good qualities to carry you forward and leave behind the ones that hinders our progress.
    Nindeya is very tricky and slippery slope, i personally have not understood the concept of nindya, some say its nindya only when its false, but how do we know its false, some say even bringing out augan is bad, as God hides everybodys faults, we should try to be liek God,...must tread with caution...sometimes it might be the truth others times not so much. So gotta be careful...
    as for the Ghor Mantar Sadhana, Guru Nanak Ji already mentioned  Asankh Malesh Mal Bakh Khaaye... countless malesh eat dirt and nasty stuff...
     
     
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    sukrit kaur reacted to BhagatSingh in Radha Soami exposed   
    I don't know him.

    All I know is that - whatever qualities you focus on most, that's what you become.
    If you focus on spiritual qualities, you will become more spiritual. If you focus on ignorant qualities, you will become ignorant.

    ਹਰਿ ਜਨੁ ਐਸਾ ਚਾਹੀਐ ਜੈਸਾ ਹਰਿ ਹੀ ਹੋਇ
    Hari jan aisa chahieya, jaisa Hari hi hoe

    The follower of Hari focuses on the qualities of Hari and in this way he becomes like Hari.
     
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    sukrit kaur got a reaction from BhagatSingh in Radha Soami exposed   
    Exactly! I dont know him too.I had read about it in an article.But the point is sometime we are so ignorant about any great soul or we are blindly following any false one.So Never Give your own opinions until we have achieved avastha to recognise any great one.
    Maharaj hi budhh bakshan!
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    sukrit kaur reacted to BhagatSingh in Radha Soami exposed   
    But nindya is not the right way.
    I have no knowledge of Baba Sawan Singh and the first thing I hear is the anus shit.
    What I am hearing is nindya.
    Nindya does not have to be insults or vulgar language.
    Nindya is talking about someone's bad qualities (without talking about the good ones).

    ਨਿੰਦਾ
    SGGS Gurmukhi-Gurmukhi Dictionaryਔਗੁਣ ਕਢਣ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਿਆ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਪਰ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਪਰ ਮਲੁ ਮੁਖ ਸੁਧੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਚੰਡਾਲੁ॥ {ਸਿਰੀ ੧, ੪, ੧:੨ (15)}।  
    Mahan Kosh Encyclopedia{ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ}. ਦੋਸ ਕਹਿਣ ਦੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਯਾ. ਹਜਵ. ਗੁਣਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਦੋਸ ਥਾਪਣ ਦਾ ਕਰਮ. ਦੇਖੋ, ਨਿੰਦ ਅਤੇ ਪਰਿਵਾਦ. "ਨਿੰਦਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਸਿਰਿ ਭਾਰ ਉਠਾਏ". (ਆਸਾ ਮਃ ੫)। (2) ਚੰਡੀ ਦੀ ਵਾਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਿਸੇ ਅਞਾਂਣ ਲਿਖਾਰੀ ਨੇ ਨੰਦਾ ਦੀ ਥਾਂ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਲਿਖਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ, ਦੇਖੋ. ਨੰਦਾ ੩.  
    You already know what gurbani says about talking about about someone's bad qualities.
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    sukrit kaur reacted to BhagatSingh in Radha Soami exposed   
    Bro... Awareness comes from Naam simran. There is no other awareness that is better than that.
     
    This is a scare tactic, fear- mongering.

    This comes from a lack of naam simran.
    Like on a larger scale - Bush saying
    "the situation is bad in USA"
    "Some terrorists are causing trouble"
    "Hiding weapons of mass destruction"

    Scaring people to wage war with other nations. You know how many innocent people died in those wars?
    The so-called terrorists were trained by the US and UK, sold arms to by US companies.
    You know they found no weapons of mass destruction?


    These are lower states of consciousness. Lack of awareness (naam simran).
    Fear of "pakhandi babey" is going to eat Sikhs alive; it is more harmful to Sikhs than the "pakhandi babey" themselves.

    Remember that.
    You go around putting labels of "Brahmgyani" on people's forehead and remove it from others.
    Are you a brahmgyani?

    How do you recognize a Brahmgyani?

    How do you know who is fake and who is not?
    Bro that's all you should be concerned with.
    What is something you can learn from Baba Sawan Singh that will help you grow spiritually?
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