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This is the time my friends...

Where we go to 8 Minutes and 30 Seconds. And Be Happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbt8bTx-c10

You CANNOT separate Chaupai Sahib and Sri Charitropakhyan 

From Chaupai Sahib...

Also 

From Chaupai Sahib

"The Granth where the fallacies of kings, ministers, and women are described"...

^ To the people who claim that Sri Charitropakhyan is sexist.... 

You CANNOT separate Chaupai Sahib and Sri Charitropakhyan 

From Chaupai Sahib...

Also 

From Chaupai Sahib

"The Granth where the fallacies of kings, ministers, and women are described"...

^ To the people who claim that Sri Charitropakhyan is sexist.... 

You CANNOT separate Chaupai Sahib and Sri Charitropakhyan 

From Chaupai Sahib...

Also 

From Chaupai Sahib

"The Granth where the fallacies of kings, ministers, and women are described"...

^ To the people who claim that Sri Charitropakhyan is sexist.... 

Okay, let's go from here. Are you saying that the baani of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, either individually or in its entirety (I'll let you choose), is inferior in any way shape or form to that of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
Whilst no one is denying that Aad Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our Guru (at least I hope no is), this does not mean that the Baani of the Tenth Master deserves any less respect.
As far as bowing down to individual baanis/shabads goes, you may choose not to, I would GLADLY.
You say individual baanis would not be put on a palki (e.g. Jap ji). What, then, would you say the the Mohan Pothis that Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji Maharaj bought to the Sri Harmandir Sahib in a palki? What would you say to the Fifth Master giving his own takht to Sri Aad Granth Sahib Ji (remember, Guru Granth Sahib Ji does not have the Gurgaddi yet), sitting on the floor with the rest of the sangat and bowing down to it? Is the Fifth Master, too, not bowing down to an "incomplete" Granth?
What are your views, then, on Sri Sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
What are are your views on the Sixth and Tenth Gurus, when they elevated the shasters, done Chaur over them and BOWED to them?
There is a katha done by Giani Sher Singh Ji Nihang explaining the whole "not doing parkash of any Granth same level as Guru Sahib", in which he explains that people started to (wrongly) parkash Ramayan/Gita/Mahabharat along side Guru Sahib Ji, hence the introdction of this rule.
For the majority of us, it is quite simple:
Jin Bhae Adab Naa Baani Dhaaraa
Jaano So Sikh Nahi Hamaaraa

Really? Kindly stop making dasam granth as men vs women issue. Let me refresh your memory, 3ho order which is full of western sikh progressive woman totally believe in charitropakhyan work for sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj because they knew how to contextualize stories and don't let feminist views come in front of wider social issues.
I love for you to debate with shanti kaur from 3ho regarding charitropakhyan.

Ok time to close the thread. We will close the thread by tom, please take your time at this point to provide your closing statements in which we can all learn:
 

No. That is a different topic altogether Mr. Singh Ji.

 

Everyone do not further this discussion until as I said earlier. Satkirin Ji you state what your understanding of the video is and what points were brought up.

Everyone do not further this discussion until as I said earlier. Satkirin Ji you state what your understanding of the video is and what points were brought up.

NO. STOP.

What he is doing is attacking bani completely. He is using the bani of Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj to push hate towards Damdami Taksal.

I don't care what you think of Damdami Taksal. But don't defend his misuse of Tuks of bani.

You cannot hope to understand because you don't even completely believe in Sri Dasam Granth Ji.

Bani IS the GURU. So be careful with what you say.

You are going in circles with the same Tuk over and over again.


PLEASE Everyone do not further this discussion until as I said earlier. Satkirin Ji you state what your understanding of the video is and what points were brought up.

Even those on the other side of the debate against Baba Hari Singh Ji didn't go in circles like this and recognized what he said to provide a useful discussion that this was supposed to be.
That's what this was supposed to be.

The points brought up in the video are really interesting...

For so long we have argued that we need a complete maryada... Now we can see the issues and decide how to solve them.

Do not attack Sri Dasam Granth because you want to view it as an equality war and not see past things.


 

https://www.youtube.com/user/basicsofsikhi

This youtube channel is FILLED with english vidoes that explain sikhism that will be a great resource :)

It also has a ton of Q and A for you to check out!!!

Sant waryam singh ji Darshan video. Specifically 2 hours and 5 minutes onwards. Please make an effort to watch the whole divan though. 
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmjzNT-styA

until recently...i used to have vibrations pretty much every few minutes during Simran...mainly exploding from heart area outwards into rest of the body...other times its up the spine, getting higher and higher....recently i have not been getting any at all...
a couple of years ago...during one amrit vela session...the vbrations got more intense....deeper and stronger with each occurrence until it was so overwhelming that i felt like i was shot up into the air with arms and legs outstretched...wave after wave like a train going over me...i could do nothing but surrender to that power...it was the most powerful thing i have ever experienced...the force was imense that i felt i was going to explode into a million particles :) but not in a fearful way
 
when it subsided, i found i was still sat on the sofa, nice n calm..hands folded...like nothing had happened to me....physically..
 
nowadays i just enjoy simran so much that i don't care to understand the ins and outs, terms, theories or anything...i just say to waheguru...all is in your hands...you do with me as you please.
 
god bless
 

Just finished reading the final ang of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. It has taken me about a year I think. Wow that is alot of stuff to take in. God only knows how people absorb all that in 48 hour akhand paaths. Now after reading Guru ji myself the next time I bow down to matha tek I will know exactly what I'm bowing down to and not just doing it out of blind faith. With Waheguru's grace and kirpa hopefully life will allow me the opportunity to apply what knowledge Guru ji has imparted and make me walk that journey of Manmukh to Gurmukh to being Sanmukh with Waheguru.

I hope that some of my posts on this thread have inspired other to read Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji for themselves and walk on the path towards Waheguru. May we all make it to our true home and origin.

Bole So Nahaal, Sat Sri Akaal!!!!!!!!!!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Most likely because they are very moved. 
I've als heard because sangat had darshan too. 
 I feel that they were just really moved though...

Most likely because they are very moved. 
I've als heard because sangat had darshan too. 
 I feel that they were just really moved though...

Sant waryam singh ji Darshan video. Specifically 2 hours and 5 minutes onwards. Please make an effort to watch the whole divan though. 
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmjzNT-styA

Sant waryam singh ji Darshan video. Specifically 2 hours and 5 minutes onwards. Please make an effort to watch the whole divan though. 
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmjzNT-styA

I believe dharnas are used so danger can sing along easy.... I don't have any problems with dharns when they are just straight dharns and still the shabad. Like dharns read by Sant Wayam singh Ji etc.
My doubt was also gone away when sant wary am singh Ji had darshan of War guru on stage during a divan.... 
 

I believe dharnas are used so danger can sing along easy.... I don't have any problems with dharns when they are just straight dharns and still the shabad. Like dharns read by Sant Wayam singh Ji etc.
My doubt was also gone away when sant wary am singh Ji had darshan of War guru on stage during a divan.... 
 

I believe dharnas are used so danger can sing along easy.... I don't have any problems with dharns when they are just straight dharns and still the shabad. Like dharns read by Sant Wayam singh Ji etc.
My doubt was also gone away when sant wary am singh Ji had darshan of War guru on stage during a divan.... 
 

Satkirin Jee whatever your opinions are please stop in a sense trying to show Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji as simple humans. They are brahmgianis

​Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindrawale was a Gurmukh Brahamgyani, not an ordinary person like me.
Bhul chuk maaf