SunnySingh

WGJKK WGJKFF
I am not sure. But I have had a few experiences like these.
I haven't done any naam simran actively.
But, I have heard some kirtan of lord krishna once when I was half awake and half asleep. Also, I heard some random songs that are not here.
Sometimes in my dreams I have been aware that I was dreaming.
Plus, I am a hindu by religion but I strongly resonate with sikhi.
 
I have started doing meditation now, but I am not sure what should I do to follow the path of spirituality in the right way?
 
I would appreciate help from you guys,
Thanks.

When one cries while listening Gurbani, it is a sign of His grace and also it means that the Amrit of Gurbani has pierced the hardened stone of our mind and filled us with true love for Him.
And when truly loves someone, then only does one feel cry and feel the agony of being away from the beloved.
I have heard mahapurukhs say that,  there is no such perfect cleanser for our soul/mind as crying for our beloved Waheguru. Not even yeras of bandagee is compared to a moment of vichoraa from our Beloved.
Our cries shake Him even, who then comes running to us and embrace us, though we may not see Him with our eyes. 
But it is a fact, that, even our cries for Him, is more a pull from His side, than any merits of ours.
He is ready to give us His wealth of love and mercy, it is only that  we have to be pure in word, in deed and in mind, in order to be receptive to that His "daat".

Hi seattlesingh, in my opinion it is not the speed which takes oneself within, but it is the concentration in the jaap, with the ingredients of sharda, determination, and intense love to have His darshan, which takes our attention within sooner.

When one cries while listening Gurbani, it is a sign of His grace and also it means that the Amrit of Gurbani has pierced the hardened stone of our mind and filled us with true love for Him.
And when truly loves someone, then only does one feel cry and feel the agony of being away from the beloved.
I have heard mahapurukhs say that,  there is no such perfect cleanser for our soul/mind as crying for our beloved Waheguru. Not even yeras of bandagee is compared to a moment of vichoraa from our Beloved.
Our cries shake Him even, who then comes running to us and embrace us, though we may not see Him with our eyes. 
But it is a fact, that, even our cries for Him, is more a pull from His side, than any merits of ours.
He is ready to give us His wealth of love and mercy, it is only that  we have to be pure in word, in deed and in mind, in order to be receptive to that His "daat".

It's because your missing someone, and you know that someone is WaheGuru, me and my brother have similar experiences. Another person I know used to have tears when he recited Jap Ji....

One time i was goin to Gurudwara, and was listenin to Jaap Sahib by bibi deepinder kaur .. (btw you should listen to this shabad its really beautiful here's the link) .. and i fell into an ectasy, with overflowing tears..

Satnam Waheguru

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA
WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Baba Nand Singh ji once said that if u cry in Guru Nanak's vichhora, those tears clear out the filth of your mind.

You know when u cry... your soul is so hungry to be with God - that is all its desire... and when your soul is so strong in the love of God (when u listen and sing open heartledly and let the sounds in) your soul is crying in infinate praise for Them.

that happened to me once- i was at the gurudwara and this ragi was playing- you might know him as Rangila- and i just kept singing and there was this sweet smell coming from somewhere and the kirtan was soo peaceful and just touched you inside that my eyes started welling up with tears! i felt so at peace and content!

Dear All,

Fateh,

I question which I am abit shy about asking ....as people would think that I am bragging ........Sometimes when I listen to Gurbani Keertan, I get tears in my eyes..........I dont feel sad or joyous ...in what we normally feel....

Can anyone please answer this. Also would like to have the views of the learned moderators on this.

Please feel free to cross question me or discuss with ur elders.

I have seen similar posts at a number of places ...by a number of people but the answers havent been satisfactory.

I though I knew the answer (as I felt it) but when I tried to answer by a young sikh gal who had made the posting ...I dont think I was very successfull....

I would be very thankful for your views

Fateh,
H Singh

AMA JEE, 
will try my best, but first of all I would like to tell you, that, this relation of wife - husband mentioned in this Shabad below is not of worldly wife and husband, but that spiritual one of love where the  soul is like a wife and Waheguru Akal Purukh is husband, as a loving protector.
ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
āsā mahalā 5 .
ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
ਨਿਜ ਭਗਤੀ ਸੀਲਵੰਤੀ ਨਾਰਿ ॥
nij bhagatī sīlavantī nār .
* The bride shows such special devotion, and has such an agreeable disposition
ਆਪਣੀ (ਆਤਮਾ ਦੇ ਕੰਮ ਆਉਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਿਤੀ) ਭਗਤੀ (ਮਾਨੋ ਇਕ) ਸ਼ੁਭ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਵਾਲੀ ਇਸਤਰੀ (ਸਮਾਨ ਹੈ
ਰੂਪਿ ਅਨੂਪ ਪੂਰੀ ਆਚਾਰਿ ॥
rūp anūp pūrī āchār .
*Her beauty is incomparable, and her character is perfect. This means, when the soul engages in the true bhakti of His jaap, it gets purified and sheds away all of the layers upon her of karmas, vaasnas, paaps, thus she shines in her originla state as a particle of that Jot of Satnam.
ਜੋ) ਰੂਪ ਵਿਚ ਅਨੂਪਮ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਆਚਰਨ ਵਿਚ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੈ।
ਜਿਤੁ ਗ੍ਰਿਹਿ ਵਸੈ ਸੋ ਗ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਸੋਭਾਵੰਤਾ ॥
jit grih vasai sō grih sōbhāvantā .
*The house in which she dwells is such a praiseworthy house.  That house (Sach Khand)where she(the soul) is meant to go once becomes His bride, is infinitely beyond any description.
ਜਿਸ (ਹਿਰਦੇ ਰੂਪੀ) ਘਰ ਵਿਚ (ਇਹ ਇਸਤਰੀ) ਵਸਦੀ ਹੈ, ਉਹ ਘਰ (ਹਿਰਦਾ) ਸ਼ੋਭਾ ਵਾਲਾ ਹੈ।
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈ ਕਿਨੈ ਵਿਰਲੈ ਜੰਤਾ ॥੧॥
guramukh pāī kinai viralai jantā .1.
*But rare are those who, meet a  Gurmukh, and attain that state.  Coming into contact in one´s life with a true Gurmukh is indeed a mark of grace, in whose company one becomes aware of one´s true nature and does all that necessary to please Him and return Home.
(ਪਰ) ਗੁਰੂ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਕਿਸੇ ਵਿਰਲੇ ਜੀਵ ਨੇ (ਅਜਿਹੀ ਇਸਤਰੀ) ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ।੧।
ਸੁਕਰਣੀ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਹਮ ਪਾਈ ॥
sukaranī kāman gur mil ham pāī .
*As the soul-bride of pure actions, I have met with the Guru.     
Pure actions here first of all means, His grace from His side, and from our side, engaging in that devotion of His jaap which pleases Him the most.
(ਹੇ ਭਾਈ!) ਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਮਿਲਣ ਨਾਲ ਅੱਸਾਂ ਸ੍ਰੇਸ਼ਟ ਕਰਣੀ ਰੂਪ ਇਸਤਰੀ ਪਾਈ ਹੈ
ਜਜਿ ਕਾਜਿ ਪਰਥਾਇ ਸੁਹਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
jaj kāj parathāi suhāī .1. rahāu .
*In worship, marriage and in the next world, such a soul-bride looks beautiful.  As said earler, when such a blessed soul sheds away all the earth binding chains on her such as of karmas, and paaps, she regains her original state of spotless purity, and is thus prepared to merge and become one with that only True Akal Purukh.
ਜੋ ਯੱਗ ਵਿਚ ਵਿਆਹ ਦੇ ਅਵਸਰ ਉਤੇ ਹਰੇਕ ਰਸਮ-ਰੀਤੀ ਸਮੇਂ ਸੋਹਣੀ ਲਗਦੀ ਹੈ।੧।ਰਹਾਉ।
ਜਿਚਰੁ ਵਸੀ ਪਿਤਾ ਕੈ ਸਾਥਿ ॥
jichar vasī pitā kai sāth .
*As long as she lived with her father. This means: as long as the soul was with her earthly parents
(ਹੇ ਭਾਈ!) ਜਿਤਨਾ ਚਿਰ (ਇਹ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਵਾਲੀ ਕਾਮਣੀ) ਪਿਤਾ (ਗੁਰੂ) ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ ਸੀ,
ਤਿਚਰੁ ਕੰਤੁ ਬਹੁ ਫਿਰੈ ਉਦਾਸਿ ॥
tichar kant bah phirai udās .
*Her Husband wandered around in sadness. Waheguru Akal Purukh, the true Husband of the soul, was sad, looking for her bride as per when will she will meeta True Gurmukh , and wake up from the deep slumber of ignorance and start looking for Him, to the needful to return back Home.
ਉਤਨਾ ਚਿਰ ਜੀਵ ਜਗਿਆਸੂ ਉਦਾਸੀ ਦੀ ਹਾਲਤ ਵਿਚ ਫਿਰਦਾ ਸੀ।
ਕਰਿ ਸੇਵਾ ਸਤ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਮਨਾਇਆ ॥
kar sēvā sat purakh manāiā .
*I served and surrendered to the Lord, the True Being;  the soul gave up haume and served the Lord with full faith and love, her True Husband.
ਜਦੋਂ (ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ) ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਕੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਨੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਕਰ ਲਿਆ
ਗੁਰਿ ਆਣੀ ਘਰ ਮਹਿ ਤਾ ਸਰਬ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੨॥
gur ānī ghar mah tā sarab sukh pāiā .2.
*The True Guru, brought me as His bride back Home, and I attained the true bliss and happiness.
ਤਦੋਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਨੇ (ਜੀਵ ਦੇ ਹਿਰਦੇ ਰੂਪੀ) ਘਰ ਵਿਚ (ਆਣ ਬਿਠਾਈ) ਤਾਂ (ਇਸ ਨੂੰ) ਸਭ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਾ ਸੁਖ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ।੨।
ਬਤੀਹ ਸੁਲਖਣੀ ਸਚੁ ਸੰਤਤਿ ਪੂਤ ॥ ਆਗਿਆਕਾਰੀ ਸੁਘੜ ਸਰੂਪ ॥
batīh sulakhanī sach santat pūt . āgiākārī sughar sarūp .
*She is blessed with all sublime attributes
ਇਹ ਭਗਤੀ ਰੂਪੀ ਇਸਤਰੀ) ਬੜੀ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਲੱਛਣਾਂ ਵਾਲੀ ਹੈ, ਇਸ ਦੀ ਸੰਤਾਨ, ਸੱਚ (ਸੰਤੋਖ ਆਦਿ) ਪੁਤਰ ਹਨ। (ਇਹ ਪਤੀ ਦੀ) ਆਗਿਆਕਾਰ (ਤੇ) ਸੁਚੱਜੇ ਸਰੂਪ ਵਾਲੀ ਹੈ।
ਇਛ ਪੂਰੇ ਮਨ ਕੰਤ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥
ish pūrē man kant suāmī .
*Her Husband, her Lord and Master, fulfills her heart's desires, by making her desireless with the Amrit of Nam.
(ਹੁਣ ਇਹ ਆਪਣੇ) ਮਾਲਕ ਜੀਵ ਦੇ ਮਨ ਦੀ (ਹਰੇਕ) ਇਛਾ ਪੂਰੀ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ।
ਸਗਲ ਸੰਤੋਖੀ ਦੇਰ ਜੇਠਾਨੀ ॥੩॥
sagal santōkhī dēr jēthānī .3.
*Hope and desire (my younger brother-in-law and sister-in-law) are now totally content
(ਇਹ) ਦਿਰਾਣੀ ਜਿਠਾਣੀ (ਆਸਾ ਤੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨਾ ਨੂੰ) ਸੰਤੋਖ ਦਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ (ਭਾਵ ਸੰਤੁਸ਼ਟ ਕਰਦੀ ਹੈ)।੩।
ਸਭ ਪਰਵਾਰੈ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਰੇਸਟ ॥
sabh paravārai māh sarēsat .
ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਆਤਮਿਕ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਵਾਲੀ ਇਸਤਰੀ) ਸਾਰੇ ਪਰਵਾਰ ਵਿਚ ਉਤਮ ਹੈ।
*She is the most noble of all the family. 
ਮਤੀ ਦੇਵੀ ਦੇਵਰ ਜੇਸਟ ॥
matī dēvī dēvar jēsat .
*She counsels and advises her hope and desire. Now the soul has full confidence in herself due to the support from her Husband Waheguru, so she is not bothered by any doubts
ਦੇਉਰਾਂ, ਜੇਠਾਂ, (ਗਿਆਨ ਇੰਦ੍ਰੀਆਂ ਅਤੇ ਹੋਰ ਸੰਬੰਧੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਸ਼ੁਭ) ਮੱਤਾਂ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਹੈ।
ਧੰਨੁ ਸੁ ਗ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੀ ਆਇ ॥
dhann s grih jit pragatī āi .
*How blessed is that household, in which she has appeared.
ਉਹ (ਹਿਰਦਾ ਰੂਪੀ) ਘਰ ਧੰਨਤਾ ਯੋਗ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ (ਘਰ ਵਿਚ ਅਜਿਹੀ ਭਗਤੀ ਰੂਪ ਇਸਤਰੀ) ਆ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਹੋ ਗਈ ਹੈ।
ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਖੇ ਸੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਇ ॥੪॥੩॥
jan nānak sukhē sukh vihāi .4.3.
*O servant Nanak, she passes her time in perfect peace and comfort by focussing on Him alone at all times.
 
*Bhul chuk maaf.

The 3 worlds/lokas or planes are as following: the physical or gross one, the astral, and the causal.
All of these in time are subject to decay and dissolution, in Parlay or Mahaparlay
Above these 3,  is Parbrham, the pure spiritual realm which has it highest peak in Sach Khand, the ultimate, changeless, eternal and infinite, the permanent abode of Waheguru Akal Purukh, where only He exists, and whosoever reaches there by His grace, also becomes one with Him.

The 3 worlds/lokas or planes are as following: the physical or gross one, the astral, and the causal.
All of these in time are subject to decay and dissolution, in Parlay or Mahaparlay
Above these 3,  is Parbrham, the pure spiritual realm which has it highest peak in Sach Khand, the ultimate, changeless, eternal and infinite, the permanent abode of Waheguru Akal Purukh, where only He exists, and whosoever reaches there by His grace, also becomes one with Him.

Sorry Veer Ji. Mispelling on my part maybe. I meant this. 
The one without a mark. The original. 
Dan dan Guru Nanak Dev Ji. 
Nehkalank Avtaar' will be the savior. 'Nehkalank' is also known as 'Kalki
I'll find it in the BOS katha and share. I thought the reference would be recognized. Lemme school myself and reshare. 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Gurbani differentiates the state of Guru Nanak Dev Ji from yours. Like it or not. 
How'd you get to be so charming?

Having read the forum quietly for a while I suggest the Sangat learn the difference between Advaita and Gursikhi. 

Bro paapiman,
as per your question above, and in the context given by you in your post of 23rd March 2021 : Raag= Love with Partiality, I would say it means, one being proud of one´s limited view of love as whole, whether conscioussly or unconscioussly.
It could well be also an expression of  subtle ego.
As I usually say, if ever one wants to know how much right or wrong one can be, the only valid source of true wisdom to discern correctly, is to check what with Gurbani oneself.
Not to see what others say or do and copy them, because not all are at the same spiritual heights, but yes, Gurbani is the same changeless Truth for all, because the authors of/in  Gurbani are perfect by themselves.

Brother Guest Shaheed Jee,
whatever you are experiencing, take it as  His apaar kirpa on you.
Please continue with your spiritual practices,  and see what more Sachay Patshah can has in store to bless you with.
Plus, you are a inspiring example for all of us, that if one is sincere in one´s bhakti without any calculations, He can never ever withold Himself to shower His apaar kirpa on us.
So glad for you.
Stay firm at all times in His bhakti come whatsoever may come, for this is the only true wealth which we will take with us while departing from this plane.
Stay blessed.

Poota Mata Kee Asees (An anecdote of love between Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji and their Mother).
 

You are welcome veer ji

Wjkk wjkf veer ji its amazing that you have mentioned this amazing experience as its mahaan kirpa of guru sahib ji that you have and are a inspiration for fallen paapis like myself who hasn't got any kamai of simran bhagati. 
 
Its ok that you have made posts on here describing your amazing experience but try to stay quiet about this kirpa as gupt as much as you can especially when talking to other people. As having kirpa like its best to stay as much gupt as you can as from personal experience dass has my rise and fall when i say to anyone that i did this bani paath jaap then the next day i feel no buzz or ras as i feel its gone due to me talking about it.
 
Its really good veer ji as you are on the right path as you have taken amrit and are blessed. Dass would say to keep doing simran the method you are currently following then hopefully you will have anand shabad dasam daur simran stage which i hope you reach very soon.

Bro paapiman,
as per your question above, and in the context given by you in your post of 23rd March 2021 : Raag= Love with Partiality, I would say it means, one being proud of one´s limited view of love as whole, whether conscioussly or unconscioussly.
It could well be also an expression of  subtle ego.
As I usually say, if ever one wants to know how much right or wrong one can be, the only valid source of true wisdom to discern correctly, is to check what with Gurbani oneself.
Not to see what others say or do and copy them, because not all are at the same spiritual heights, but yes, Gurbani is the same changeless Truth for all, because the authors of/in  Gurbani are perfect by themselves.

In Farsi baashah : 
 
 
 

I have always been a very scientific minded person, however now I feel that an illiterate person who knows nothing about the world but is Jap-Ing Naam versus a Scientist who is Japing Naam, scientific mind tries to figure things out which in itself is the poison. 

Anything you do via trial and error is a scientific process.