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This is pretty good. This type of stuff should be taught in the schools of Punjab. This can encourage Punjabi children to become more creative when writing Punjabi. The Punjabi language needs to be expanded so that even science and technological studies can be taught in the Punjabi language.

Since the times of Bhai Veer Singh Jee, the Punjabi language has not moved farward. Punjabi language needs a new Bhai Veer Singh Jee so that Punjabi bhasha can cover new ground.

No, in Islam only rape of Muslim women is Haram. According to Islamic sources rape of captive women is allowed if she is a non Muslim. Forget Zakir Naik. But what about the Quranic and Hadith sources which themselves prove the above mentioned facts about Prophet Mohammad?

Brother Sarbat, it is extremely strange that on one hand you beleive that Jagat Guru, Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee was Rumi and Mohammad in his previous life and that too without any shred of evidence, so it is only based on your fantasies or imaginations. We have historical proof of Mohammad being a pedophile, mass murderer, thief, slave owner, rapist of captive women, torturer yet you are not willing to beleive it because historical facts do you match your romanticized version of Prophet Mohammad's life. So you are just blindly believing in a mythic Mohammad based on fantasy rather then the actual historic prophet Mohammad.

Proof Prophet Muhammad was a pedophile and rapist is his marriage to his child bride Aisha who was only 6 during the Nikah and 9 during the Suhaag Raat. I doubt any 9 year old willingly consented having sex with a man who was old enough to be her grandfather, so yes this is also proof of rape.

Proof of Prophet Muhammad being a mass murderer is his genocide of the Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza in which 700 Jewish men were beheaded and their women and children were distributed amongst the Sahaba as slaves.

Proof of Prophet Muhammad being a slave owner and trader take a look at this link which shows numerous excerpts from the Quran and Hadiths:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm

Not just prophet Muhammad, he even encouraged his followers to rape captured women when they came to him asking about the azl method of birth control. Check out this link which proves beyond doubt that Prophet Muhammad allowed rape of captive women and also indulged in rape:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/femalecaptives.htm

Even Zakir Naik doesn't deny Prophet Muhammad being a slave owner and having sexual rights over a slave.

Kavi Santokh Singh Jee wrote what he wrote based on what he heard. Every saakhi he heard whether it was verified or not, he just wrote it down which is why it is not considered a Sikh canonical scripture. We Sikhs determine which Sakhi is reliable by testing it if it is in line with Sikh canonical writings which are SGGSJ, writings of Guru Gobind Singh Jee, Bhai Gurdas Jee, Bhai Nand Lal Jee. While Kavi Santokh SIngh Jee's monumental work is respected by the Panth, but no Sikh considers it to be a canonical Sikh scripture while Muslims consider the Hadiths to be canonical along with the Quran.

The hadiths by Bukhari are considered the most reliable sources on the prophet mohammad. Unlike Kavi Santokh Singh Jee, bukhari did not just blindly write down every thing he heard. He diligently verified each and every thing before writing it which is why the followers of Prophet Mohammad beleive in the Hadiths as the most reliable sources there is about Prophet Mohammad. Bukhari himself was no ordinary man, he was actually a genius, they say he had all these Hadiths memorized by heart. Non of the Hadiths can be said to contradict the other Islamic canonical writing which is the Quran.

It's really strange that you as non Muslim are questioning validity of the Hadiths, while Muslims who literally LIVE ISLAM and die for Islam as true believers in the message of Prophet Mohammad and his Quran beleive it to be the most reliable source on Mohammad.

Sant Jee is telling the truth, he being a Brahmgiani validates the above stories. There are a lot of things that we ordinary people cannot perceive, that Brahmgianis can. Because of their advanced spiritual level, they have access to knowledge of Trekaal (past, present and future) and divine knowledge. So Bachans of a Brahmgiani are much more valuable and credible then Mohammad his Quran or the Hadiths in my view.

The Dasam Granth contains many secrets which Sikhs are not aware of. By listening to the Katha done by learned Gianis, these secrets can be understood.

great posts DalSingh.

Sant Jee is telling the truth, he being a Brahmgiani validates the above stories. There are a lot of things that we ordinary people cannot perceive, that Brahmgianis can. Because of their advanced spiritual level, they have access to knowledge of Trekaal (past, present and future) and divine knowledge. So Bachans of a Brahmgiani are much more valuable and credible then Mohammad his Quran or the Hadiths in my view.

The Dasam Granth contains many secrets which Sikhs are not aware of. By listening to the Katha done by learned Gianis, these secrets can be understood.

The following link contains Sarabloh Kavach

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50631587/Sarabloh-Kavach

It is from Sri Dasam Granth?

But the debate will not be about mangos.

What a Baahanaa this is. That's because you and other low level Kala Afghanist foot soldiers have lost so badly on Sikh Awareness. So now you no longer have "time" to debate.

One who sings sufi music is not necessarily a Sufi himself. So expecting sufi type qualities from a man who is not sufi but happens to sings sufi music is too much to ask for from that man. I mean, Sartaj is an entertainer and professor in Sufi music but let us not confuse him for being a real sufi. The work he is doing for Punjabi music is good work. Music itself has a huge influence on culture. Finally we have a singer from east Punjab who is making a positive contribution to Punjabi culture. I would gladly pay $100 to listen to Sirtaj than the trashy type of Punjabi singers of great fame we have who have a negative influence on Punjabi culture.

The Muslim guy should know better than to mess around with a Sikh girl. I hope he gets caught by the girl's family.

Please share your experience.

London Dha Jatt Jee, were you a Jatt in all your previous lifetimes? can you say for certain that you were even a Punjabi in your previous lifetimes? for all you know, you (like me) could have been a Chura or Chamar or Chandaal or Brahmin or even a Chinese man or woman? This body is very temporary which we(Soul) wear and discards like cloths. The body and the caste associated with the body will eventually become ash. Then your soul (based on it`s karmas) will get another body which for all we know might not even be a body belonging to the Jatt caste. So what use it is being proud of being Jatt? If you need to be proud, then feel proud of our Gurus, Bhagats and Shaheeds and try to emulate their extraordinary Jeevans.

With the exception of Bhagat Dhana Jee, none of the Bhagats were Jats. As a humble Sikh would you not sacrifice yourself just to get a chance to bow to the charan dhoor of Bhagat Kabir Jee (a Julaha) or Bhagat Ravidas Jee (a Chamar) or would your proud Jattness prevent you from doing that?

So are you saying Sri Raam did not exist?

Harjas, according to you, even the Dasam Granth was changed/edited by the British (without any proof from you!). So it seems strange that you are quoting from Dasam Granth when it suites you and disregard it when it rejects your Hindu Avatars.

You also mentioned the Shaheedi of the Gurus. The 9th Guru would have sacrificed in defence of any faith if they were in the position of what the Kashmiri Pandits were in. Guru Nanak Dev Jee rejected the wearing of janjuu, yet 9th Guru knowing this ithihas, still willingly sacrificed himself for the wearers of the Janju since that is what Sikh faith is about. It is ironic that in 1984 anti Sikh riots, Hindus shamelessly attacked Gurdwara Sis Ganj Sahib in Delhi which commemorates the Shaheedi of the 9th Gurus.

No matter how much you try to change and reshuffle history to suite your Hindutva agenda, it will not change that fact that caste system, secondary status of women is a part of Hindu Dharm. This is how it was during the times of our Gurus, and this is still how it is today.

London Dha Jatt Jee, were you a Jatt in all your previous lifetimes? can you say for certain that you were even a Punjabi in your previous lifetimes? for all you know, you (like me) could have been a Chura or Chamar or Chandaal or Brahmin or even a Chinese man or woman? This body is very temporary which we(Soul) wear and discards like cloths. The body and the caste associated with the body will eventually become ash. Then your soul (based on it`s karmas) will get another body which for all we know might not even be a body belonging to the Jatt caste. So what use it is being proud of being Jatt? If you need to be proud, then feel proud of our Gurus, Bhagats and Shaheeds and try to emulate their extraordinary Jeevans.

With the exception of Bhagat Dhana Jee, none of the Bhagats were Jats. As a humble Sikh would you not sacrifice yourself just to get a chance to bow to the charan dhoor of Bhagat Kabir Jee (a Julaha) or Bhagat Ravidas Jee (a Chamar) or would your proud Jattness prevent you from doing that?

Not just the story of Vishnu's avtars, it is said that Dasam Patshah and his poets had translated nearly all the granths of India, but most of it was all drowned in the river. The remainder was collected together into the Dasam Granth. Sarbloh Granth also seems to be Dasam Bani which it seems must have been independently collected and compiled into a single volume granth, it's history is still unknown to us.

Apart from many translations that Dasam Patshah did of Hindu Granths, he also seems to have added his own "flavour" to the stories so it cannot be said to be 100% pure translation of the original Sanskrit Granth.