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Coming back to the topic at hand, try to attend the jaap programs. If you cannot, please do your own individual ardas as part of your nitnem. 

Kavi raaj Bhai Santokh Singh Ji refers to "Ik Nau Lakh", which can be taken two ways.
One is that 1 + 9 = 10, so 10 lakh.
The second way is 1 and 9 gives 19 lakh. 10 lakh mughal fauj and 9 lakh pahari kings armies plus the many mercenaries, robbers, looters, plunderers and hit men types. 
Either way, there was 10 lakh fauj.
Many maha purkh in their Kathy also verify this (Sant Baba Waryam Singh Ji etc.).
For me, all this is proof enough and this is the truth.
Questioning this is the beginning of an already slippery slope, where we question all of the kauthaks of Guru Sahib Ji. Saavdhaan.

i agree.

I'm thinking of writing some books to this end. Here are some of the proposed titles:
How to cook humans
How to cook FOR humans
How to cook forTY humans
How to cook FOR forty humans
 
Let me know what you think 

This is the unfortunate truth, even in the UK. You got this white washed mentality, where you train only to look good.

Sant Baba Waryam Singh Ji Ratwara Sahib Wale, in their Vaisakhi katha also say the same. There was no delay by any of the 5 piyare. As soon as Guru Ji made the call, they answered

Okay, let's go from here. Are you saying that the baani of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, either individually or in its entirety (I'll let you choose), is inferior in any way shape or form to that of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
Whilst no one is denying that Aad Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our Guru (at least I hope no is), this does not mean that the Baani of the Tenth Master deserves any less respect.
As far as bowing down to individual baanis/shabads goes, you may choose not to, I would GLADLY.
You say individual baanis would not be put on a palki (e.g. Jap ji). What, then, would you say the the Mohan Pothis that Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji Maharaj bought to the Sri Harmandir Sahib in a palki? What would you say to the Fifth Master giving his own takht to Sri Aad Granth Sahib Ji (remember, Guru Granth Sahib Ji does not have the Gurgaddi yet), sitting on the floor with the rest of the sangat and bowing down to it? Is the Fifth Master, too, not bowing down to an "incomplete" Granth?
What are your views, then, on Sri Sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
What are are your views on the Sixth and Tenth Gurus, when they elevated the shasters, done Chaur over them and BOWED to them?
There is a katha done by Giani Sher Singh Ji Nihang explaining the whole "not doing parkash of any Granth same level as Guru Sahib", in which he explains that people started to (wrongly) parkash Ramayan/Gita/Mahabharat along side Guru Sahib Ji, hence the introdction of this rule.
For the majority of us, it is quite simple:
Jin Bhae Adab Naa Baani Dhaaraa
Jaano So Sikh Nahi Hamaaraa

Sher, do one thing. If ever you or your family are in dire need of help, ask the individual who helps you whether they are a Hindu or not, and only accept help from them if they are.
Stop spreading your BS hate. This is an amazing act of human kindness. If you can't accept this, then that just proves how sick , deranged and twisted you actually are.

For someone who clearly is very well read, you do ask some obvious questions.

Have you forgotten the shaheeds of Vaisakhi 1978, who were gunned down by the Nirankaris and the police? I'm sure you haven't, but are selectively choosing to ignore this.

As far as the Vienna shooting goes, whilst I appreciate the intentions of the Sikhs, I do not agree with the shooting in any way. I believe that the course of dialogue had not been exhausted.

Now, back to my questions. ..

What was the fault of the Muslims in Gujarat 2002, or the Christians in Orrissa 2007, or the hundreds of thousands of dalits being raped and killed up and down the country, or any of the other minority riff - raff panths?

Please re read my post, as it seems you're missing the point.

In your brahamanistic totalitarian country, minorities are treated like "riff - raff" (as you so eloquently put it).

You have a beef with Sikhs or their religious/political movement, fine. Let's put that to one side.

What was the fault of the Muslims in Gujarat in 2002?

What was the fault of the Christians in Orrissa 2007?

What fault was/is it of the dalits who get raped and looted and killed up and down your genocidal country?

Let me guess. ..they're all extremists/taliban/jihadist/ISI/Pakistani intelligence/Afghanistan invaders...

It's nice to see how accepting your supreme society is to minority riff - raff.

Yes, this is not the 16th century, where all of the Hindus were enslaved (feel free to thank the Sikhs for standing up to the invaders).

After being enslaved countless number of times by numerous invaders you finally get power, and what do you do? Start butchering the minorities, no different than what your masters did when hindus were still slaves in their own country.

You call other religions and panths "riff - raff". On what basis do you hold this holier than thou attitude? Your comments on serve to prove that the hindu administration are extremists and oppressors.

1984 - Sikh genocide
2002 - Muslims in Gujarat
2007 - Christians in Orrissa

Hundreds of thousands of dalits being raped and killed up and down the country.

But when someone or a community stands up to this injustice, you label them extremists.

Need I say more?

Holy cow!

For the record Bro, kharku84 said that, not me

Um....everything

Think of it this way.....if the 10 Guru Sahibaan were standing in front of you, would you ask them to all sit on one seat?

Dhan Dhan Sant Baba Karam Singh Ji

Just to add, ALL of the traditional sampardas  (udasi, sevapanthi, nirmala, nihang, taksal, nanaksar, rara sahib (bhai daya Singh samparda ) etc etc) believe 100% in dasam granth. It's only these new age "qualified" people who think they know better.

Nah Bro, but got the English one posted here thanks. Looks like I'm gonna have to learn Hindi lol

JungChamkaur, you stupid inbred little twat,  if you have such a massive problem with Sikhs (and it's clear that you do), leave this forum, but DON'T YOU DARE INSULT OUR GURUS!
Honestly, I don't know of any Sikhs who can be bothered to join a Hindu or Muslim forum with the sole intention of spreading hate.
You've been countered time and time again, and every time you comment, you spew your tyrannical twisted hate. 
This is Sikhawareness. You don't like it, then bugger off , bloody Internet warrior!

Have you tried to ask Niddar Singh personally to clear up any questions you have?

Debates aside, show some respect when talking of Mahapurkh Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji. Just because you can disrespect someone, doesn't mean you should. 

Do you mean completely knowing all akhar and lagamatra off by heart?