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Because people's perceptions change. Simple as that.
 
 
I'm comparing how Sikhs have always been loyal to this artificial creation called india, in the face of external threats. Says so much about you that I had to make it blindingly obvious.
 
 
They are welcome to bring figures and factual accounts. No Sikh denies that Hindus were wrongly targeted and killed at some times, but facts and figures are always needed. The kind that Jaswant Singh Kalra brought.
 
 
Many times. Maybe your eyes and ears were shut.
 
 
Every indian political office has a photo of nehru or modi, who were responsible for deaths in their thousands. And BTW it is you people who still bow and treasure those photos.
We won't put up a photo of this man you claim killed 329 people if you will take the photos of those men who killed thousands and thousands. Deal ?
 
 
Conflict is one thing Mr Hindustani, state terrorism and oppression is another.
 
 
Hold on Mr Rapistani. It was YOU or ME that started this thread of a Sikh thanking Pakistanis for their help with Panjab's floods, and compared it with Muslims threatening Sikhs in Pakistan?
 
Is that peaceful debate? Then when you get labelled a kdRam you start crying? Typical dindu.
 
I have attached ram to you name because you certainly don't deserve to use the name Singh. You and your kind of people are a disgrace to the Guru and Gurmat.
 
 
And get jailed for nothing? Tortured? Why ? What did Jagtar Johal do that he has been in jail for 5 years now, whilst the indian state have yet to start his case?
 
Jagtar is in jail and what have YOU done about an innocent man in the judicial system of your country?
 
 
Typical hindu bhapa mentality. You have tried to tell these "not so highly educated villager" that they are hindus for the last 75 years? have they accepted that they are hindus? Or is it just you urban bhapa sikh (read hindu) types who have folded over and accepted it?
 
Why are you and your kind acting as pawns for the indian state? All these hindu bhape crying over the tiranga yet none of are concerned about 1 sikh being in jail for 5 years?  Is that the acts of "highly educated people" or traitors?
 
Well if you're not afraid of it, then why make threads like this in the first place? Why has you hindustan been complaing to Australian and Canadian authorities over it?
 
And why are you afraid of Hindus in india? You side with them. You love their tiranga more than your own Nishan Sahib, You accept that you are in essence a Hindu, so why are you afraid of Hindus?
 
 
 
 
Wow. Give this guy a round of applause.

His wife fought lok sabha election from probably the most sikh dominated seat and this was the result. 
 
 
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So Sikhs can't even win election in Punjab but dream of a nation ruled by sikhs. How this is going to happen? 
 
You are comparing Aurangzeb with China. One wanted to convert entire India and the other just wanted some border land which they believe is thiers. 
 
Hindu's also claimed that thousands of them killed by Sikhs . Did you ever said a word about it.  And BTW it is you people who still have photo 's of a man who killed 329 people in Air india flight.
 
The truth is when you are in conflict innocents die on both sides and all parties claim innocence.
On the net you can have peaceful debate with everyone except a khalistani. All he start abusing and you you are no different. How you attached Ram with my name clearly show your mentality that Hindu's are inferior and any sikh who is not on our side is ram , kishan , devi
 
What's wrong is that you people just want to keep your first class lives in UK Canada and USA while you need some poor sikh who just become cannon fodder and fight for you. If he gets killed or jailed you will just shout slogans against india. You want khalistan leave your country, come to india and fight for it. Just remote controlling it from Canada is nothing but cowardice. 
 
Telling a not so highly educated villager that we will recreate maharaja Ranjit Singh Raj which is not possible is nothing but using him as pawn
 
Nobody is afraid of it , it is just used by handful of anti Sikh Hindus to spread hatred against Sikhs. You people can waste as much money you want. Even Pakistan who shout about refrendum in Kashmir never conducted any such refrendum because refrendums are held in disputed place not in foreign land where Sikhs which are not even living in Punjab are voting
 
In the end I just want to say that live in present not in past. What happened in 80s and 90s was terrible but nothing can be done now. India is now 10 times stronger while sikhs are extremely weak. Low birth rate christian conversions are major threats now . 
 

It was not a majority of Sikhs who voted Congress. The Congress vote is strengthened through the urban hindu and rural SC votes. It always has been.
 
Because Sikhs wanted to show that in the face of external threats, they did not the internal forces to be weak.
 
Same as when Guru Gobind Singh Ji, himself an idol-breaker,  asked the pahari rajas to form an alliance against the moghals, but the pahari rajas prefered to side with the moghals.
Are you going to ask now why the hell did the Guru of the Sikhs do that?
 
 
No and that was their main plank of failure. But it was a double sided sword. The Sikh leadership thought they could rely on the words on the next PM of India.
 
 
Yes and the Sikhs found that out very quickly when Master Tara Singh was arrested for treason in 1949, and jailed.
But in India even written things can be baseless. Like your PM Manmohan lying to the UN Human Rights Commission that no torture or extrajudicial killings were happening in Panjab. The same subject that Jaswant Singh Khalra talked about in his video. Today being the day in 1995 that he paid for with his life. And  you making up excuses to shift the blame to Sikhs and absolve your country and govt of any wrong doing. And you don't feel no shame about it either.
 
 
So the question is why the Hindus took that level of trust and betrayed it. They knew our weak position and our reliance on them and they purposely backstabbed the Sikhs. And you get upset and cry over Sikhs burning their flag.
 
 
Is that all you have to say Mr genocide apologist? some 30,000 Sikhs killed in false encounters. Thousands more unaccounted for. Your state giving those killers stars on their shoulders and stripes on their arms? And you beaming with pride at your countrys flag?
 
 
Why are you so invested in it then? Why is your country so fearful and vindictive over it? The referendum is as phoney as the flag you love.
 
 
Pendu's ? It was these same people who bore the brunt of torture and state murder. They have the same rights to freedom as all human rights do. Why would you want to deny them those human rights? You sound just like a moghal would. Or a nazi.
 
 
Who cares if the PM of Khalistan would be practising or not. The issue is not of whether they practice or not. The issue is of freedom. Something you need to do with your own mind. Free yourself from that tiranga. Darbara Singh claimed to be a practising Sikh, but under his rule, torture was rife in Panjab. Modi could claim to be a practicing Hindu, but I can't Lord Ram Chander or Lord Shiva supporting his actions against minorities.
 
 
And there you go. Your blindness and hatred means you see all Khalistanis as hot-headed. Says so much about you. You're no different from those snakes in delhi really.
 
 
And whats wrong with that?
 
 
Well AAP was given a chance in Panjab and they started well, but faltered very quickly. And thats why Khalistan Party won the Sangrur elections.

Mata Bebe Nankee jee (elder sister of Sri Satguru jee) was the first Sikh in our history.
 
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God bless Qadri Ghulam Haider.
He is a Muslim who loves Guru Sahibaan and does parchar of Gurbani.
He says sikh raaj will happen all over the world.
 

We have love for all people. We love individual muslims. We cannot be allied with pakistan or islam on fundamental levels. We're being reckless and not just with our own lives and reputations. 

Why are rich Sikhs from east Punjab giving millions of dollars to the Pakistan Govt and Army while our own gareeb Sikh brethren are suffering in east Punjab?
The Pakistan Army use the funds they get from naive Sikhs generating money for the Pakistani's to facilitate even more drug trafficking to east Punjab to destroy our Sikh youth.
Yatra's are not in line with Gurmat. If people insist on making a tourist trip it should be within east Punjab to help the local economy not enrich Pakistani's who support the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs which killed 25% of Sikhs there.

They mostly do this drama to earn money through tourism since their economy is in shambles. I wouldn't trust them in a 1000 years. the problem with Sikhs is they see someone acting nice and will forget all the bad things done to them by the same group over and over again which is why we are in this condition. Even after getting back-stabbed left and right we have not learnt our lesson.

Glad to see that some news outlets are taking the issue of assassinations of Sikhs more seriously. If only the british govt would have the same approach but while rishi is in charge that will never happen.

How generous of the Maharashtra government to "withhold it for broader consultation" !!! The fact that they must have been planning for months before doing it, and to even think about it in the first place shows that their intentions. I'm just glad that on the one side the hazoori Sikhs have kind of woken up to the deceitful nature of the indian states and their regional and central governments. Hopeful one day the delhi sikhs will shake off their slumber as well.

Waheguru Ji
Day 14 4,800
Day 15 10,000
Day 16 6,300
Day 17 10,000

Total:  31,100 jaaps done
766,206 jaaps left to do.
 
Please, more Sangat needs to participate in this goal.
 
ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸਦਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮਰਹਿ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਇ ॥
vāhu vāhu gurmukẖ saḏā karahi manmukẖ marėh bikẖ kẖā▫e.
Waaho! Waaho! The Gurmukhs praise the Lord continually, while the self-willed manmukhs eat poison and die.
 
ਓਨਾ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਨ ਭਾਵਈ ਦੁਖੇ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਇ ॥
Onā vāhu vāhu na bẖāv▫ī ḏukẖe ḏukẖ vihā▫e.
They have no love for the Lord's Praises, and they pass their lives in misery.
 
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਵਣਾ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਹਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥
Gurmukẖ amriṯ pīvṇā vāhu vāhu karahi liv lā▫e.
The Gurmukhs drink in the Ambrosial Nectar, and they center their consciousness on the Lord's Praises.
 
ਨਾਨਕ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਹਿ ਸੇ ਜਨ ਨਿਰਮਲੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥
Nānak vāhu vāhu karahi se jan nirmale ṯaribẖavaṇ sojẖī pā▫e. ||2||
O Nanak, those who chant Waaho! Waaho! are immaculate and pure; they obtain the knowledge of the three worlds. ||2||

Waheguru Ji
Day 18 16,800
Day 19 24,300
Day 20 10,200
Day 21 20,500
Total: 71,800 jaaps done
 
694,406 jaaps left to do
 
ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸਦਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮਰਹਿ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਇ ॥
vāhu vāhu gurmukẖ saḏā karahi manmukẖ marėh bikẖ kẖāe.
Waaho! Waaho! The Gurmukhs praise the Lord continually, while the self-willed manmukhs eat poison and die.
 
ਓਨਾ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਨ ਭਾਵਈ ਦੁਖੇ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਇ ॥
Onā vāhu vāhu na bẖāvī ḏukẖe ḏukẖ vihāe.
They have no love for the Lord's Praises, and they pass their lives in misery.

I get it brother. Christians, so-called Christians, have done a lot of things with the Bible to make people hate Jesus. I get it bro. But it has you in a state where you're not really making arguments, you're making unsubstantiated claims brother, ignoring all arguments, and applying emotion and confirmation bias only. 
The text, the only text, that we can hold Christians to, is the Bible brother. Like The Vedas, it is determined in Gurbani to be not false, it is however not corrected to the extent The Vedas are. 
And if we are being honest, in both texts there is nothing to say that the all-powerful God could not come here in a human body to accomplish something as part of their story in Khel. 
We have multiple of our own accounts of the Angel of the Lord themself coming here to do things. 
Now a Sikh could forget the Bible is real and never ever ever know about anything abrahamic and do just fine. 
But what is not appropriate for a Sikh to do brother is in rejection of our own scripture and the clear scripture of the Bible, is to be Antichrist, and to make extremely unsubstantiated claims. 
And I get it bro people are a little bit hurt feelings, and they may not be familiar with the text, so you might just not have known, but when presented with the facts brother you don't want to know. You want to continue on in the same ignorance and bias that you had, flagrantly turning your nose up at not only the Bible bro but Gurbani. 
 

Nanded Gurdwara Bill row: Maharashtra government assures BJP of status quo
The Maharashtra Government has decided to withhold the Nanded Sahib Gurudwara Amendment Act bill for broader consultation before its presentation to the assemb
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/india/nanded-gurdwara-bill-row-maharashtra-government-assures-bjp-of-status-quo-590729
 

https://news.sky.com/story/sikh-activist-in-the-uk-on-indian-hit-list-in-constant-fear-of-being-killed-at-any-time-13070771
 
'We can be killed in the UK at any time': Sikh activist fears for life after being named on Indian 'hit list'
 
Kulwant Singh Mothada supports a Sikh homeland, separate from India, called Khalistan. He is one of several activists - some of whom are dead - accused of violating terror laws by India's counter-terror department. He spoke to Sky News in his first TV interview.
By Tom Cheshire, Data and Forensics correspondent @chesh
  Wednesday 14 February 2024 07:28, UK
 

https://news.sky.com/story/jagtar-singh-johal-brother-of-imprisoned-briton-tells-david-cameron-his-life-is-in-your-hands-13070109
Jagtar Singh Johal: Brother of imprisoned Briton tells Lord Cameron 'his life is in your hands'
The brother of Jagtar Singh Johal has revealed to Sky News that he told Lord Cameron "his life is in your hands" as the foreign secretary gave assurances the government was doing "the right thing" by the British national.
Monday 12 February 2024 15:18, UK
 
The brother of a British man who has been held in an Indian prison for more than six years has told Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron "his life is in your hands".
Jagtar Singh Johal from Dumbarton, Scotland, was in Punjab, northern India, for his wedding in 2017 when his family said he was arrested and bundled into an unmarked car.
He is said to have been tortured, including with electric shocks, and faces the death penalty as a result of his campaigning for Sikh rights.
Politics live: Cameron holds 'very important meeting' over detained Briton
Mr Johal's family have continually urged the British government to help secure his release and, after a meeting with Lord Cameron on Monday, Mr Johal's brother has said there is "hope" that the former prime minister can be the one to bring him back to the UK.
When asked what he said to Lord Cameron during the meeting, Gurpreet Singh Johal told Sky News: "I have reiterated to him that my brother's life's in your hands, and if he doesn't do anything then my brother could be in there a long time.
"Jagtar is also facing the death penalty, which will be on the foreign secretary, so I have put it on him so he understands the urgency."
Mr Johal added: "The family requires answers, six years on, six foreign secretaries, but there is hope on my side that an ex-prime minister who was in charge of this country can use his skills to bring my brother back home.
"The UK government has said it is looking for a resolution, this should be that my British-born-and-bred brother should be brought back to his family in the UK where he can continue his life."
  'No promises'
It comes as Lord Cameron vowed to review the government's involvement in Mr Johal's case to "make sure we are doing the right thing".
Speaking after the meeting with the family, he said: "I wanted to meet there with the family and hear from them what they think. And I want to really stress, as an incoming foreign secretary, you don't just accept what the government has said up to now, you really look at it, really ask the questions."
 
Making "absolutely no promises" Lord Cameron said he would look through all the paperwork again, urging the Indian government to "speed up this case".
"I am going to take into account what they have said and see whether there is a different approach we should be taking," Lord Cameron told reporters.

Lord Cameron made 'no promises' during the meeting with the Johal family
"I am going to re-examine everything and make sure we are doing the right thing.
Revealing more about his brother's imprisonment, Mr Johal said the last time the family had any contact was on 18 October, the date of the imprisoned blogger's wedding anniversary.
"We are supposed to have video calls with Jagtar but those are not being allowed by Indian authorities," he said.
 
"He is supposed to have at least a monthly phone call with the family - that's not been allowed either. Instead, there is always an excuse for them not happening."

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Amen. Happy birthday Brother. 

That's just a typical response to excuse it away and avoid dealing with the issue.

"Everyone else does it, so why should we be different!"

Look sakhi of mazabhi pretending to be Sandhu and getting lynched.

Shaheed E Azam Bhagat Singh Sandhu.

Jatt

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