Ragmaala Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 How long do you chant for ? What is your threshold before you start feeling lazy or start feeling tired ? Have you gotten sore throats ? How do you tell yourself to keep going and going when mind just wants to give up ?I will be very honest here, I am still stuck at the first stage of meditation, the Baikhari bani or Physical Japa. When I try to do mental japa, the mind turns more noisy. I am just looking to inspire myself and get a feel for how long can one chant for continuously. Personally, the maximum I ever did was just short of 3 hours, but maybe once or twice. I want to push myself, but it will be easier knowing what other Gursikhs are upto, so I feel motivated to do at least that much.When we read Guru Granth Sahib, there is a lot of emphasis on physical Japa. I want to know more about it. Lets talk about practical methods instead of intellectualizing & engaging in debates. Hindu traditions have so much emphasis on doing lakhs of Japa , but i rarely hear discussions like that amongst Sikhs. Even Guru ji says Ucharo Ram Naam Lakh Bari, Lakh Lakh Geda Aakhiye Ek Naam Jagdees.Lets hear your views !Thanks!ps. I tried googling for the maximum time people have chanted for and achieved results, but couldn't find much, so thought I would ask SAers ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnSikhGirl Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 If you are talking about simran... probably an hour or so continuous (at a samagam). If you are talking paath... then see my other post in this forum. 2 hours continuous, and totalling 12 hours in a 24 hour period cumulative of japji sahib (2 hrs on 2 hrs off). And that was not easy... I doubt I will be making another attempt any time soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 SING! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chzS1ngh Posted July 17, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 a good place to work towards is dasvandh of your time...so 2.5 hours of the day...i have been working towards that amount of time...obviously some days it is difficult because tiredness and sleep take over. but that's not a bad thing...need to listen to your body and rest...so that the next time you do simran mind is refreshed and more focused. if you're doing almost 3 hours already then i think you should not really worry about the length of time you spend doing it...but rather the quality of the simran...i have only reached greater lengths of time in Simran when i am pulled deeper within...then time doesn't seem to come up...only when i open my eyes do i realize how much time has gone... some days 'IK MAN' is achieved within a few minutes...other days even after 2 hours of simran my mind is all over the place...one thing that doesn't change is the longing deep within...as long as that is there...guru ji will come calling.. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucky Posted July 18, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I get the feeling that 3hrs or 2.5hrs(dasvand) is used as a kind of bench mark because no matter how basic or skilled someone is in simran.....>Even if the beginner on foundation level allocates the dasvand time towards simran, he/she should get at least some moments/seconds/minutes of deep -single thought connection throughout a session.In effect, there should mostly be some moments of some real dhan kamayee, even if one was sat getting diverted into thoughts of work, bills, household chores..etc. for the most part.This message is important because I sense that a lot of us just give up and think ''Oh, I can't do simran,,, I can't ever settle,,,,, my life's too busy.... theres' way too much for me to sort out in my thought process,,,,etc,".see, my suggestion would be ..".keep trying..and keep making those few hours tor at least a crack at it"Again, this all boils down to strict self-discipline and goes along with another reason why Guruji bestows rehat. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 How do you guys know when to make transition from a loud Japa to silent Japa inwards during your sessions ? Does it happen automatically ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukrit kaur Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 WJKK WJKF!!I've never done loud verbal jaap for much time.Even I can't.I'm little bit suspicious about it whether it's right or wrong.Few months back,I was like I gotta do jap for entire day.I used to get up at 2 in morning then could do jaap till 5.I couldn't find how I spent these hours.Sometime only listening to kirtan drives me into state into meditation and sooner shabads of kirtan becomes inaudible.But Sometime I can't even sit properly to continue my jaap.In this case ,irritation starts bothering.sometime,when It's off day then can spend my entire afternoon just sitting in remembrance of god.The maximum time I've chanted for is perhaps 3 hours.Anyways these days I'm struggling to be on the track again.Some useless worldy affairs like studies,exams start distracting.So hope if it happens again.I'm sure other member's posts gonna help me a lot.but I think time doesnt matter.It all happens by grace of akal purkh.When his mehar vision blesses then it can happen within seconds otherwise meditation of several hours,years or even yugs can't be fruitful.So all depends upon love towards sachepatsah.when love awakens,then can sit for several hours but at other time when love towards worldy affairs start rising then can't sit even for a second.So a tarrapp according to tuk"Houu tumarii kraho Nitt Aas prabh mohey Kabb Gal Laavey gey||"Is necessary to achieve the infinite.Dhan Guru Nanak! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 How do you guys know when to make transition from a loud Japa to silent Japa inwards during your sessions ? Does it happen automatically ?When you become focused single-mindedly on the Dhwani of the Jap then you let go of the Dhwani and focus on silence.Try different things and you'll see where you get the best results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 1, maybe 2 minutes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 20 minutes/30 minutes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dalsingh101 Posted August 2, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 How do you guys know when to make transition from a loud Japa to silent Japa inwards during your sessions ? Does it happen automatically ?It happened automatically for me. Eventually the external voice becomes internalised. Though recently I have begun to feel the need to occasionally (in a very low voice) verbally say mantar when I jap. By this I mean a few repetitions verbally when the rest of it is internal. I think this happens when I feel .....'intense' for lack of a better description. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 It happened automatically for me. Eventually the external voice becomes internalised. Though recently I have begun to feel the need to occasionally (in a very low voice) verbally say mantar when I jap. By this I mean a few repetitions verbally when the rest of it is internal. I think this happens when I feel .....'intense' for lack of a better description. Yea I think the word you are looking for both instances you described, is 'spontaneous'. Indeed I also find that this stuff is best when it happens spontaneously.It's like nurturing a plant or an infant. When you provide them with proper nutrition, they display a need, you fulfill, and they grow up into healthy life forms spontaneously. Whatever happens is spontaneous and you just go with the flow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 When we read Guru Granth Sahib, there is a lot of emphasis on physical Japa. I want to know more about it. Lets talk about practical methods instead of intellectualizing & engaging in debates.I have been trying this one method out very recently.It is essentially and purely - Dhun main dhyan dhyan main janeyaWhat I like about this technique, is that it is fully dhun-based. No words, only dhun. Different kinds of dhuns, different frequencies and such. And you literally Vibrate with the dhun. You can literally feel the body vibrate.Check it out and see if you resonate with it. (pun intended :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDTNt7MWl8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 do you go to sangat for amritvela simran? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 do you go to sangat for amritvela simran?I think I havent gone in a year almost, but it really gets easier to chant along with sangat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I have witnessed people crying, shaking and jumping upwards during amritvelas simran session. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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