Gobind Gita katha project!

[paapiman]

3 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:

Have you thought about writing a autobiography?

That's actually a great idea bro. Thanks for that.

Brothers, Dal, Gurjant and N30, should all seriously consider writing a book and passing on their knowledge to the younger generation of Sikhs.

@dalsingh101 @GurjantGnostic @sarabatam

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

3 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said:

You will be Bhangu of UK.  Panth Parkash UK edition.

LOL.

Gyani Dal Singh Nawa Bhangu (UK wale).

@dalsingh101

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[shastarSingh]

9 minutes ago, paapiman said:

LOL.

Gyani Dal Singh Nawa Bhangu (UK wale).

@dalsingh101

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Lol

 

[GurjantGnostic]

22 minutes ago, paapiman said:

That's actually a great idea bro. Thanks for that.

Brothers, Dal, Gurjant and N30, should all seriously consider writing a book and passing on their knowledge to the younger generation of Sikhs.

@dalsingh101 @GurjantGnostic @sarabatam

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Well..God help the youth...

Lol 

Jk. 

Jokes aside all the regular posters here are in that boat. 

 

[dalsingh101]

 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

LOL.

Gyani Dal Singh Nawa Bhangu (UK wale).

@dalsingh101

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Me personally, I'm just an average bod (at best). I can only think it was in hukam to make me aware of certain issues from a young age. I didn't chose it and wonder how things may have been if I had grown up elsewhere; somewhere more quiet, away from the dark underbelly of society I often found myself around.  I'm far from the best Sikh. I'm just on my safar like everyone else. Looking back at things now, a lot seems crazy, especially how the state reacted to Sikhs who essentially wanted to protect and warn vulnerable members of their own community against vile and determined predators. But members of our panth have done their duty and tried their best to combat this in the face of hostility from multiple sources. I hope the state eases up on such people and recognise their good work instead of vilifying them.   

[Sajjan_Thug]

22 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I couldn't write anything that could ever compare with Bhangu's work. That's a Sikh classic now. An invaluable source which contains ithihaasic information not found elsewhere. 

What dass meant by being Bhangu of UK is to document first hand  history you personally  experienced. If Bhangu didn't write his granth there would be so much history that would be lost.  

You have first hand experiences of many decades of Sikh struggles on the streets of UK and the problems they faced from racists and the government.  Those valuable experiences need to be put to writing so they can be passed to the next generation.

You probably have many stories of Sikhs getting discriminated and the hard times they went through decades ago in the UK that you personally experienced around you.  Those need to be put to writing as you know the value of first hand knowledge in history.  Who knows maybe people will deny that Sikhs were discriminated against decades ago in order to rewrite history.  Your personal experiences will disprove that.

It doesn't have to be the size or scope of Bhangus work.  It can be a small booklet of your own personal anecdotes.  
 

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, Sajjan_Thug said:

What dass meant by being Bhangu of UK is to document first hand  history you personally  experienced. If Bhangu didn't write his granth there would be so much history that would be lost.  

You have first hand experiences of many decades of Sikh struggles on the streets of UK and the problems they faced from racists and the government.  Those valuable experiences need to be put to writing so they can be passed to the next generation.

You probably have many stories of Sikhs getting discriminated and the hard times they went through decades ago in the UK that you personally experienced around you.  Those need to be put to writing as you know the value of first hand knowledge in history.  Who knows maybe people will deny that Sikhs were discriminated against decades ago in order to rewrite history.  Your personal experiences will disprove that.

It doesn't have to be the size or scope of Bhangus work.  It can be a small booklet of your own personal anecdotes.  
 

@dalsingh101 - Please do seriously consider the above.

If you are in touch with any other older Sikhs, who know more than you, please also encourage them to document their struggles and all tragic incidents. One of the oldest grooming cases probably goes back to the late 1960's.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

5 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:

You have done a great job the last 10 years plus Dally Paji (not that I always 100% agree with you on everything such as Charitropakhiyan or Chapter 4 of Bachittar Natak accusing our Guru Sahibaan of being Hindu Kings in previous lives).

This is off-topic, but Sri Bachittar Natak states that the lineages of our Satgurus goes back to Sri Ram Chander jee.

I don't think it says that our Satgurus were Hindu Kings in the previous lives. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[sarabatam]

23 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Well..God help the youth...

Lol 

Jk. 

Jokes aside all the regular posters here are in that boat. 

 

I know I can't do it..lol. 

[paapiman]

11 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:

Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj destroyed the very concept of lineage via "kul naash" at Vaisakhi 1699.

When "Kul Naash" is mentioned, it means not to discriminate based on Kul or to take pride in your Kul.

Sikhs still need to remember their (and their mothers) last names for marriage purposes.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

11 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:

Only the Mughals and their paid scribes benefitted from Bachittar Natak and declaring Triya Charitar as Gurbani.

Sri Bachittar Natak is full of Bir Ras bro. One stanza of it was also recited by Maharaaj during the First Amrit (Khande wala) Sanchaar.

IMHO, enemies of the Panth would definitely not want the Sikhs to recite it.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[GurjantGnostic]

2 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:

To be clear we are focussing on Chapter 4 of Bachittar Natak which alleges that our Guru Sahibaan were Hindu Kings in so-called previous lives who divided up the order of GurGaddi between 1469-1708 as a business deal rather than on the basis of Bibek Buddhi.

There are no historical records in India of any Sodhi kingdoms nor any Bedi kingdoms whatsoever.

Do you agree Chapter 4 allegation against of our Guru Sahibaan being Hindu Kings is depraved and false?

So again it becomes clear that Mughals and their paid scribes authored Chapter 4 of Bachittar Natak in order to denigrate Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. Similarly, the allegation that Dasam Pita spent several years writing Triya Charitar stories in the middle of fomenting the biggest social and spiritual revolution that the land of Hindostan had ever seen is ludicrous in the extreme and one that only the Mughals, their paid Brahmin scribes, the racist British Empire and more latterly Hindutva forces that seek to destroy the Sikh Panth are promoting.

You know I'm a big Dasam Granth fan, but take this for checking. There's the ang About "those that call me God will fall into hell..."

And you're like well, surely we go through hell for speaking the Truth. Then it goes on to be more clear about their role in the Universe. And you're like huh...that doesn't match though. 

What makes no sense is if you go to the previous Ang, Guru Gobind Singh Ji IS speaking clearly as God basically. 

Do we know what small percentage of Dasam Granth was being argued before?

I think we need to find the oldest Bir of Dasam Granth and check.

And keep in mind, what words could have been changed in Bachitar Natak to keep a similar theme but change meanings. 

[GurjantGnostic]

We should also demand to see the entire Sikh collection the pedophiles have stashed away. Not the less than one percent they put on display.  

[paapiman]

18 hours ago, MrSingh1699 said:

Similarly, the allegation that Dasam Pita spent several years writing Triya Charitar stories in the middle of fomenting the biggest social and spiritual revolution that the land of Hindostan had ever seen is ludicrous in the extreme and one that only the Mughals, their paid Brahmin scribes, the racist British Empire and more latterly Hindutva forces that seek to destroy the Sikh Panth are promoting.

Gurparssad, Daas will reply you in the appropriate topic.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Sajjan_Thug]

On 5/20/2022 at 6:13 AM, paapiman said:

That's actually a great idea bro. Thanks for that.

Brothers, Dal, Gurjant and N30, should all seriously consider writing a book and passing on their knowledge to the younger generation of Sikhs.

@dalsingh101 @GurjantGnostic @sarabatam

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Waheguru Ji

Another good idea you might be interested in is what if we gather 40 or 50 good topics on this forum that have a lot of good information in them and copy them on to one document to make a pdf file? This way all that knowledge is in one place and it will be easy to share and know how much knowledge we have on a particular subject.

For example this topic
https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/20612-five-types-of-sikhi/

Has alot of good solid information all gathered  around five types of Sikhi.  This will be a good topic to include in document.  All we will be doing is copying and pasting.  In the table of content, we can put five type of Sikhi to know what page the information is on.

What do you think of this?  
 

[Arsh1469]

Any further updates?

[GurjantGnostic]

6 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Any further updates?

Dasam Granth is without error or alteration and the truth expressed therein is highly cohesive with other writings. All my doubts and misgivings, stumbling blocks have been removed. 

The Karam of calling Guru Gobind Singh Ji God, burns you until you set it down.... let's see. 

Fun ride. It all checked out. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 5/25/2022 at 2:36 AM, Sajjan_Thug said:

Waheguru Ji

Another good idea you might be interested in is what if we gather 40 or 50 good topics on this forum that have a lot of good information in them and copy them on to one document to make a pdf file? This way all that knowledge is in one place and it will be easy to share and know how much knowledge we have on a particular subject.

For example this topic
https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/20612-five-types-of-sikhi/

Has alot of good solid information all gathered  around five types of Sikhi.  This will be a good topic to include in document.  All we will be doing is copying and pasting.  In the table of content, we can put five type of Sikhi to know what page the information is on.

What do you think of this?  
 

Fantastic idea. Many books have the bones laid down on the forum.