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Here I am trying to gather together all the things that point towards something in 2012 or say after 5000 years of Kalyug passing.

  1. Guru Arjan Dev Ji said that: This is mentioned in Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji's (Rara Sahib) deewan.
    - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.

  2. Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentioned that: As mentioned in Sakhi Pothi
    - Khalsa will spread in the 4 corners of the world.
    - "When the Pipal tree will spread over the Jand tree, then the spirit of the order of the Khalsa, which I have enshrined under the command of God Almighty shall start to work to set up a world-society, which will last for 5000 years. That divine society will enjoy peace and affluence."

  3. Harbhajan Singh Yogi mentioned in 1992 that:
    - There will be Khalsa Raj somewhere after 2012 and it will rule on India, Burma, Pakistan etc.
    - Starting from 2012 there will be start of new age (Aquarius Age) and it will be started with natural calamities (catastrophes), wars etc.

  4. Bhavishya Purana
    - Krishan Ji told ganga that Golden Age will come in Kalyug and it will start around after 5000 years of Kalyug.

  5. Mayan Calander states that:
    - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
    - It does NOT has any dates after 2012 and some people are predicating that world will end after 2012. This interpretation is incorrect. Actually, Mayan calendar consists of only 5 cycles. It states that there will be change of some cycle after 2012.

  6. Spiritual Science Foundation states that:
    - We are entering into new state/cycle starting from 2012.
    - There will be very big level wars, natual catastrophes from 2012-2025 which will cost the reduction of world's population to around 60%. After 2025 there will be 100% Golden Period and it will last for around 5000 years.

  7. Nostradamus Prediction:
    - He predicated 3 world-war in between 1992-2012 and very high occurances of natural disasters around 2012.

  8. We have seen that the tensions between countries, Recession across the globle, natural disasters have increased for the last many years and they might grow with time.

Now, as per my understanding if we club the above, we get:

  1. There will be something bad happening starting from November/December 2012.
  2. After reducing the population (those who are Nastik or bad along with some good one) to double digit %, then there will be calm.
  3. Then there will be Khalsa Raj (here Khalsa is pure as defined by Guru Gobind Singh Ji) for 5000 years. This will be a called a true Golden Period in Kalyug.
  4. After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all devi-devte of tiraths will fled earth and thus no tirath will provide Shudi. Only those who meditate on Naam will be able to swim across this wordly ocean.
  5. Starting from 10,000 of Kalyug, a period will start where there will no relations, brother will have relations with her sisters etc. and towards the end of Kalyug almost everyone will be sinked in sins.... as defined in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani and also in some Purans etc.
  6. At almost the end of Kalyug, there will be Kalki-Avatar to kill the bad. Then Kalki-Avatar will become proud and then again another Avatar will come to kill Kalki etc. Here important thing to consider is that here Kalki-Avatar is not someone who can save us in Kalyug. His aim will be to kill the bad. The ONLY thing which can save us in Kalyug is ONLY Naam (as told by all of our Gurus).

Please kindly, put your thoughts.

Thanks!

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If people think Khalsa raj will fall from the sky without effort, planning and strong desire on the part of Sikhs, I have to question their grip on reality.

Raj would only come with military superiority and/or exceptional, prudent, globally visioned leadership. We haven't got any of that at the moment. Hell, we can barely run Gurdwaras and have no media presence. A lot of this hinges on leadership, which must be cultivated, encouraged and invested in. This doesn't appear to be happening either.

Finally, the belief in the whole premise of the Aquarius age goes against Sikh theology if Bhai Gurdas is anything to go by.

I don't think the translation is great but:

ਸਉਣ ਸਗੁਨ ਵੀਚਾਰਣੇ ਨਉ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਬਾਰਹ ਰਾਸਿ ਵੀਚਾਰਾ ।

saun sagun veechaaranay nau grih baarah raasi veechaaraa|

The life led in the light of omens, the nine planets, the twelve signs of the zodiac;

ਕਾਮਣ ਟੂਣੇ ਅਉਸੀਆ ਕਣਸੋਈ ਪਾਸਾਰ ਪਸਾਰਾ ।

kaaman toonay auseeaa kanasoee paasaar pasaaraa|

Incantations, magic divination by lines and by the voice is all futile.

ਗਦਹੁ ਕੁਤੇ ਬਿਲੀਆ ਇਲ ਮਲਾਲੀ ਗਿਦੜ ਛਾਰਾ ।

gadahu kutay bileeaa il malaalee gidarh chhaaraa|

Cries of donkeys, dogs, cats, kites, blackbirds and jackals cannot control our lives.

ਨਾਰਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਛਿਕ ਪਦ ਹਿਡਕੀ ਵਰਤਾਰਾ ।

naari purakhu paanee agani chhik pad hidakee varataaraa|

It is superstitious to draw good or bad omens from meeting a widow, a bare headed man, water, fire, sneezing, breaking wind, hiccups;.

ਥਿਤਿ ਵਾਰ ਭਦ੍ਰਾ ਭਰਮ ਦਿਸਾ ਸੂਲ ਸਹਸਾ ਸੈਸਾਰਾ ।

diti vaar bhadraa bharam disaa sool sahasaa saisaaraa|

Lunar and week days, lucky-unlucky moments and going or not going in a particular direction

ਵਲਛਲ ਕਰਿ ਵਿਸਵਾਸ ਲਖ ਬਹੁ ਚੁਖੀ ਕਿਉ ਰਵੈ ਭਤਾਰਾ ।

valachhal kari visavaas|akh bahu chukhee kiu ravai bhataaraa|

If a women behaves like a prostitute and does every thing to please everybody, how can she be loved by her husband.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਖ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਰ ਉਤਾਰਾ ॥੮॥

guramukhi sukh dhalu paar utaaraa ॥8॥

The gurmukhs who reject all superstitions enjoy happiness with their Lord and get across the world-ocean.

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Here I am trying to gather together all the things that point towards something in 2012 or say after 5000 years of Kalyug passing.

  1. Guru Arjan Dev Ji said that: This is mentioned in Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji's (Rara Sahib) deewan.
    - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.

  2. Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentioned that: As mentioned in Sakhi Pothi
    - Khalsa will spread in the 4 corners of the world.
    - "When the Pipal tree will spread over the Jand tree, then the spirit of the order of the Khalsa, which I have enshrined under the command of God Almighty shall start to work to set up a world-society, which will last for 5000 years. That divine society will enjoy peace and affluence."

  3. Harbhajan Singh Yogi mentioned in 1992 that:
    - There will be Khalsa Raj somewhere after 2012 and it will rule on India, Burma, Pakistan etc.
    - Starting from 2012 there will be start of new age (Aquarius Age) and it will be started with natural calamities (catastrophes), wars etc.

  4. Bhavishya Purana
    - Krishan Ji told ganga that Golden Age will come in Kalyug and it will start around after 5000 years of Kalyug.

  5. Mayan Calander states that:
    - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
    - It does NOT has any dates after 2012 and some people are predicating that world will end after 2012. This interpretation is incorrect. Actually, Mayan calendar consists of only 5 cycles. It states that there will be change of some cycle after 2012.

  6. Spiritual Science Foundation states that:
    - We are entering into new state/cycle starting from 2012.
    - There will be very big level wars, natual catastrophes from 2012-2025 which will cost the reduction of world's population to around 60%. After 2025 there will be 100% Golden Period and it will last for around 5000 years.

  7. Nostradamus Prediction:
    - He predicated 3 world-war in between 1992-2012 and very high occurances of natural disasters around 2012.

  8. We have seen that the tensions between countries, Recession across the globle, natural disasters have increased for the last many years and they might grow with time.

Now, as per my understanding if we club the above, we get:

  1. There will be something bad happening starting from November/December 2012.
  2. After reducing the population (those who are Nastik or bad along with some good one) to double digit %, then there will be calm.
  3. Then there will be Khalsa Raj (here Khalsa is pure as defined by Guru Gobind Singh Ji) for 5000 years. This will be a called a true Golden Period in Kalyug.
  4. After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all devi-devte of tiraths will fled earth and thus no tirath will provide Shudi. Only those who meditate on Naam will be able to swim across this wordly ocean.
  5. Starting from 10,000 of Kalyug, a period will start where there will no relations, brother will have relations with her sisters etc. and towards the end of Kalyug almost everyone will be sinked in sins.... as defined in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani and also in some Purans etc.
  6. At almost the end of Kalyug, there will be Kalki-Avatar to kill the bad. Then Kalki-Avatar will become proud and then again another Avatar will come to kill Kalki etc. Here important thing to consider is that here Kalki-Avatar is not someone who can save us in Kalyug. His aim will be to kill the bad. The ONLY thing which can save us in Kalyug is ONLY Naam (as told by all of our Gurus).

Please kindly, put your thoughts.

Thanks!

Baba Thakur Singh ji Bhindrenvale also told me that a huge portion of the world's population will die from war and disaster/famine etc. It will be a terrible time. It cannot be avoided no matter what, the time for that has passed. But it can be pushed back by the collective prayers of humanity. The more it gets pushed back, the less severe the tamasha will be.

Bhramgyani Jathedar Kulwant Singh ji said that a time will come when Sikhs will have to have a gutka sahib in one hand and a kirpan in the other at all times just to survive.

I have also heard that coastal cities will be underwater at some point. Vancouver Island in B.C. will sink underwater at some point.

Gyani Thakur Singh ji told me that things will likely begin around 2012. But again, can be pushed back or may even begin earlier.

Dalsingh, the concept of Aquarian age etc is used to define the spirit of the times. We need to focus on things we can control. The main thing we need is strong jeevans. More abhyaas, more rahit, longer amritvela.

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Its very surprising that I just asked this question an hour ago to a chardikala mahapurakh. He said that bad things will happen but only in a limited space but there are many mahapurakhs on this earth who can lessen the effects of disaster.

Also this mahapurakh me about coming back of Baba Ishar Singh Kaleran wale in forthcoming years, even he doesnt know when he will come back but he will for sure.

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Also this mahapurakh me about coming back of Baba Ishar Singh Kaleran wale in forthcoming years,

Is this the person usually called Sant Isher Singh Rarewale or are they 2 different people?

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Thanks for clarifying that.

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how does this sit with the belief that Kaljug is still young and will go on for hundreds of thousands of years yet?

HSD don't worry bout KFC/McD/Wendys etc.

Ive heard from those who have had near death experiences that they saw franchise outlets en route whilst being taken to Dharam Raja. Because its a long journey there you will be allowed toilet breaks should you want a McP!!s before you are presented to Mr D.R.

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Well, technically speaking, we could be entering a new enlightened age but still be in Kaljug. Or something. I'm interested in this Kalki-Avtar bloke though, sounds like a right laugh.

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One thing that does seem apparent to me is a sort of global breakaway from the past by most of the worlds communities. Like we are entering a new era? Maybe just an illusion though?

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Has anyone read Gur Bilas granth by Sukha singh recording sakhi of guru gobind singh and khalsa raj where he told singhs to take over the world but they only cared for punjab so he said later on they will take over the world.

No but Bhangu's Panth Prakash says the same thing.

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This is what I understood from all the sources:

Because of the selfish deeds of everyone on this earth; earth has already started complaining.......man has misused money, power, and natural resources and has done bad in order to pursue their selfish desires.....be it a nation or individual person. In other words, human has not used his Free Will for the betterment.

Therefore, because of the above, GOD has a plan to clean our consciouness. And this cleaniliness could be in the form of natural disasters, physical wars, civil wars, anything we could imagine. Some say that even 2/3 population will be destroyed. And this could have been avoided by becoming unselfish and loving but it seems like we might have already crossed the limit to avoid it. After 2012, there will be a shift in human's spiritual and mental thinking. After cleaning earth, earth will be governed by spiritual people......this is a possibility that these spiritual people happen to be Khalsa......but may NOT be the Khalsa that we used to identify with ONLY physical properties. But there is high probabllity that Spiritually Inclined (Khalsa) Sikhs will rule India, Pakistan, Bangadesh etc. in the near future. and this rule will last for 5000 years.

Bottom line is here: This is the GOD's plan to save our planet and this is not the first time it's going to happen. There are cycles within cycles within cycles within cycles. And ending of each cycle does bring some destruction (or creation depending upon how you view it). Bigger cycle brings great destruction and smaller cycles bring smaller destruction. The biggest destruction is after one set of Satyug/Treta/Dwapar/Kalyug. Each yug has sub-yugas and each sub-yogs has more sub-sub-yugas and so on. This time by Dec 2012 we are entering mini/sub yuga of Satyug within Kalyug which will last for around 5000 years.

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. Each yug has sub-yugas and each sub-yogs has more sub-sub-yugas and so on. This time by Dec 2012 we are entering mini/sub yuga of Satyug within Kalyug which will last for around 5000 years.

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interesting that you say that. Ekart Tolle also states in his books that we are entering a phase where Humanities conciousness will increase towards enlightenment. one by one, soul by soul.

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there is a document which shows that Kaljug has just started and has 400,000 years left.

alot of this doomsday stuff is just stuff to sell books, etc.

look at the state of the sikhs in the world, you think they are ready to "take ova da world"...come on...use your god given common sense

as for the mayans, their calander runs out on 21st december 2012 and thats it. nothing more. no doomsday stuff is predicted, etc. it just finishes, like a book finishes. some people say this is because when they finished that calander, the spanish came and they didn't have time for the new one..of course, as they were being killed..come on read some books dudes..

as for other references, proof and sources required. I don't believe the Gurus were into "predicting" the future, nor did SatGuru Gobind Singh Ji wanted to rule the world...etc....rumours and myths spread by people.

YES, astrologically, there is a new age coming, the Aquarian age (you know star signs for us, the planet has them too, ancient system), but this does not start for another 150 years..

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If the Aquarian Age (whatever that is, dont know myself) doesn't start for another 150yrs then why did Yogi Bhajan claim to be a 'prophet' (- my term used) for that age? And he's been gone for a few years now.

couple of months late. Yogi bhajan said alot of things, he even claimed he was from a family who were healers to Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his wife was a direct descendant of SatGuru Nanak Dev's family.

All designed to do one thing. Make them divine to the normal human, by making these claims they create in their "followers" minds that these people are special.

BUT why, its all about Money, Property and Crowd control, this is what religion is today, the evidence is around you, 100 of millions of pounds, dollars, etc are being pumped into india in forms of donations, where land is bought up, deras created, etc all for the babey. the people are stupid and fall for their tricks

Look at what happened when he died, most of his properties were taken over in court battles, etc by his own followers who cut their kesh (oooooohhhh thats bad), etc.

Yogi bhajan was a business man, he has cornered the "Kundalini Yoga" market, you cannot learn it without bumping into his commerialised courses, same goes for Sahaj Yoga run by a (multi-millionaire, former royal)) rajistani woman, nirmala devi who claims she is the Mother Goddess come to save mankind in the AQUARIAN AGE, her market is Sahaja Yoga, she claims she is the "EKA MAYAI JUGAT VAI" in Jap Ji Sahib and that the Sikhs should follow her and that the Gurbani is being mistranslated by the Sikhs.

http://www.adishakti.org/meeting_his_messengers/guru_nanak.htm

http://www.adishakti.org/forum/of_her_alone_was_born_brahma_vishnu_rudra_japji_sahib_bhavnopanishad_4-11-2007.htm

I wonder where the so called Jatherdhars are now?????

Ramdev is trying to do the same with Raja Yoga and Ayur-ved, in the next 5 years you will not be able to learn Raja Yoga or Ayur-Ved from anyone but him.

Its called cornering a market, like what Nat Rothschild is doing with Gold, what De-beers have done with the diamond market and what Mittal has done with the steel market.

Yogi bhajan has nothing to do with the aquarian age.

the followers of these groups will say i am speaking from my "negative mind".as they have told me many times in the past...Reality and truth is always bitter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession_(astronomy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernal_equinox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Alignment#Galactic_alignment

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It is no-where mentioned that 2012 will be doomsday. It is just that there will be some changes (political, economical, social, weather, atmosphere, consciouness etc.) starting in 2012 and stabilizing in around 2025. People predicting doomsday are not right.

And yes, there are around 4 Lakh (400,000) years left in kalyug and as of now only around 5125 years have passed; therefore so-called doomsday (end of world) is not possible but we will see that there will be many many changes starting from Dec 2012. It won't be something that you will see something coming out of the sky and hitting and destroying us.

When you think about these changes more deeply, they are required to sustain the planet as well as mankind, otherwise this mankind with its technologies are trying to be God with devastating consequences. e.g watch the following weather modification movie. I request everyone to have a look at the following movie which is an eye-opener: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/world-spraying/

Moreover, at spiritual level there are lots of Mahapurash (some not in Their physical bodies) that are trying to minimize the stongest effect of these changes. They are making sure that these required changes do happen but at a level where is not so devastating for mankind. So, we may not feel the strongest but still stronger than normal will be there.

Someone not believing in God does not change the reality of God.

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It is no-where mentioned that 2012 will be doomsday. It is just that there will be some changes (political, economical, social, weather, atmosphere, consciouness etc.) starting in 2012 and stabilizing in around 2025. People predicting doomsday are not right.

And yes, there are around 4 Lakh (400,000) years left in kalyug and as of now only around 5125 years have passed; therefore so-called doomsday (end of world) is not possible but we will see that there will be many many changes starting from Dec 2012. It won't be something that you will see something coming out of the sky and hitting and destroying us.

21st December 2012 will be a normal day. NOTHING will happen. I have seen loads of videos by people like the 3HO who are using 2012 to make MONEY, especially concentrating on the Galatic Alignment

http://en.wikipedia....actic_alignment

What people need to realise that these people are very clever and intelligent, they have read about these things and twist them so that their followers will become more form in their loyalty towards them, bring new followers and DONATE more MONEY.

When you think about these changes more deeply, they are required to sustain the planet as well as mankind, otherwise this mankind with its technologies are trying to be God with devastating consequences. e.g watch the following weather modification movie. I request everyone to have a look at the following movie which is an eye-opener: http://topdocumentar...world-spraying/

Weather modifications or "cloud Seeding" has been happening since humans have taken to the skies, well over a 100 years. Cloud Seeding was invented by the British/US Military as a way of attacking enemy soliders on the ground with chemical weapons via the air, etc. You can read about it by searching on google.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Cloud_seeding

What you are talking about is "Chem Trails" or "Chemical Trails", apart from visually seeing them, there is no way of proving what they are doing. Most of the time people dismiss them, claiming they are "Con Trails". Unless you have access to flight manifestos, etc etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail

http://en.wikipedia....nspiracy_theory

This too has been happening for a long time.

These Chemtrails are more geared towards population control, it is also claimed that in the coming years 3 billion people will die.

Watch this

Moreover, at spiritual level there are lots of Mahapurash (some not in Their physical bodies) that are trying to minimize the stongest effect of these changes. They are making sure that these required changes do happen but at a level where is not so devastating for mankind. So, we may not feel the strongest but still stronger than normal will be there.

Someone not believing in God does not change the reality of God.

This has nothing to do with people not believing in God. These very same people who kill other humans also believe in God.

As for Mahapurash trying to minimize strongest effetcs, etc. Are you watching Ramayan or Mahabharat?????? lol.....

So, moral of the story. Don't give up your day job, whatever is going to happen will happen, just live your life, do your naam simran, nitnem and be a good person. Read up on Codex Alimentarius and watch this.

http://en.wikipedia....ex_Alimentarius

http://www.codexalim.../codex-home/en/

Want to survive 2012

watch this 5 parts - at the end, you will only be saved by buying his book, products.

look at this The Georgia Guidestones, are big stones with writing engraved into them, in breif, it says that the earths population should be around 500 million and not more than that.

http://en.wikipedia....gia_Guidestones

Read up on Eugenics, watch the BBC 4 documentary on Racism.

Read up on Susan Bardocz and her husband. World experts on planet lectins, etc. They broke the silence and started telling telling people what the people at the top were upto.

http://en.wikipedia....%C3%A1d_Pusztai

http://www.freenetpa...k/hp/a.pusztai/

In 1998 Pusztai publicly announced that the results of his research showed feeding genetically modified potatoes to rats had negative effects on their stomach lining and immune system. This led to Pusztai being suspended and his annual contract was not renewed.

This resulted in a media frenzy, and Rowett Institute's director Philip James, after initially supporting Pusztai, suspended him and banned both Pusztai and Susan Bardocz from speaking publicly. He also used misconduct procedures to seize the raw data.

http://www.psrast.org/pusztai.htm

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First of all it seems like you have not watched the weather control link, but that is not the problem. Secondly, I haven't included that link to predict that it will ruin the earth or something like that. It was included just to present the state of our consciouness. Nothing more than that.

Yes, you're right Dec 21, 2012 will be like any other normal day. At the same time, everyday since the creation of this universe is a doomsday because this universe is constantly changing; crores of creatures are killed and take birth every second. All these changes (including earth changes etc) have happened in the history and will happen in the future (not mentioning 2012) because it is called Law of Change. A friend today might be foe tomorrow and foe today might be friend tomorrow.

Lastly, nowhere I suggested to leave your duties and stop doing Naam Simran. What ever is suppposed to happen will happen. But if you're driving a car on busy streets of UK, you do stop at red lights and also give way to pedestrians. Why do not you just drive by without stopping because whatsoever is supposed to happen will happen?

I did not put this information on internet to stir debate or to create panic. It is just meant for information (just like a normal road-sign); you do NOT stop at road-sign to read it and you do not abandon your journey for reading road-sign. If you stop your journey for reading road-sign, you're not wise. The information displayed on the road-sign was meant for information that might help you on the way to your destination.

If you don't like the information (road-sign), please carry on, no one is going to stop you from your destination (God).

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Nice analogy of the "road sign". Good job on mentioning the Law of Change, I honestly didn't know that. Thank you for opening my eyes. I was blind and now I see. Seriously. :)

Actually, I've already watched that video, back in August, my mistake for not informing you before I replied. (was I meant to? I haven't read the forum rules properly) :blink:

Who said you wanted to predict anything? do you want to? :wacko:

Brother/Sister, you need to lighten up. :D:P

Cool smily faces...woohooo :ph34r:

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