Inderpal1994

Broad topic to cover. But ...
1. The root of all suffering and seperation is desire. Elimate that, eliminate all else, Buddhism in one line. 
2. Desire manifests attachment and aversion. 
3. If you look at the attachment or aversion what it is, it comes down to wanting approval, control, or safety, and can be released. 
These desires result in the 8 basic emotions apathy, grief, fear, lust, anger, pride being the lower 6 and courageousness and acceptance being the higher 2 we move into in order to release to achieve Peace which is to have no emotions. Just Peace, Joy and eternal states beyond. 
So our Karam is the accumulated thinking, worrying, doing, and wanting we've done since the seperation. Because before seperation we have no desires or thoughts of being seperate. 
All people work through this slowly..millions upon millions of years. By releasing you can do many lifetimes of real living in a single life and by releasing to Satguru and applying the panacea of Naam magnifies this process and removes the barriers while keeping close to God. 
I think it can help to learn to release, because we are releasing fully to Satguru through Sikhi and without a warm up like releasing or being schooled I think people could parrot Gurbani a while before feeling what's happening. 
 

In order to release from the belly or chest you have to let go of the head. And allow yourself to release. The energy wants to leave and be resolved, we clutch it. And you can feel that clutching all over. .
Best way ...only way after years of releasing I found, was to surrender my head to Guru Ji, and let my ego and desires die together. 
I was very stubborn so this head removal has been slow and with a saw lol. 
But my head is clear enough now, when releasing and doing Naam Simran or Mool Mantar I can open up all sorts of channels and get the Bani to Jaap from the deep center. Sometimes. I have to warm up into it. 
I was blessed with great healing recently doing this type of combined releasing, Aikido, and most important Gurbani. Prayer of myself and more importantly others. 

I am familiar that when it comes to meditation, it has been discussed that one should do jaap from the navel. This which I don't know how to do.
 

American physicist who discovered the above information directly. 

From a kinesthetic releasing point of view, all the attachments and aversions can be felt in the belly and released from there, provided the head is removed. In a way that's like uncovering God in your belly. Heh. 

ghaT ghaT varatai audhar majhaare ||
He pervades each and every heart, and is contained within the belly.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maaroo - ang 1026
Looking from the above tuk, we see Satguru ji state's that Parmatma reside within each and every heart, this I am aware. But Parmatma resides within the belly?
Can this be further elaborated?
What does this tuk mean?

Who's that?

Hazuri Singhs and Nihangs (Nanded) use tilak in certain ceremonies. I saw many of them with orange and red tilak in Maharashtra.

i've come across sikhs who dont even believe in reincarnation lol

This is beautiful. 
Thank you.

It has been years since i posted anything on this site but I saw this topic and had to say something.

There are lots of females with great avasthas out there. I saw a few whilst in India this year. Alot of them are kept in the background because of the massoganist mindset people have in the punjab.

There was a Gursikh Bibi at Guru Ka Mahal in Amritsar doing seva at the shoe stand, you could tell from speaking to her that her jeevani was uch koti, sweet words nimarta and constant bhagti was amazing.

Best of all if you want to see women with great spiritual avasthas can i suggest that one takes a visit to Bhai Salo Ji's Toba in Amritsar, not more then a kilometer from Darbar Sahib. The Gurdwara is prodominantly by woman, their seva and bhagti is out of this world and you can feel the spiritual vibrations from them. I spoke to a few of the Gursikhs and was so moved that other then meeting Sant Giani Mohan Singh Ji Bhindrawalae these ladies were of the highest avasthas I met on this occaision.

Anyone gets a chance please go and see the simple Gurughar with no golak and the Toba itself.

I think most names of God in the Guru Granth Sahib are masculine while in the Dasam Granth they are feminine

We have to realize in indic vedic philosophy term vishnu is referred to both sargun and nirgun, at times its referred to maha vishnu (nirgun), shiv is referred to sada shiv. It's little more complex just like how sri guru gobind singh ji recited deh shiva bor mohe for nirgun - paratma- almighty not sargun shiv. So before jumping to conclusion we need to really contextualize whats being said as we would for gurbani.

1. Firstly, you are going off topic on your original post, which was about 9 types of Bhagti. However, since this is related to our other discussions I will continue on in points 2 and 3.

2. Secondly, Prehlaad ji (Vishnu bhagat) was the one who talked about the 9 types of Bhagti. That's how it makes its way to Guru Granth Sahib.

Vishnu means "one who resides everywhere". Prehlaad ji is his bhagat.
Kabir ji says -  ਰਾਮ ਜਪਉ ਜੀਅ ਐਸੇ ਐਸੇ ॥ ਧ੍ਰੂ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦ ਜਪਿਓ ਹਰਿ ਜੈਸੇ ॥੧॥
Meditate on "Ram" the way, Dhruv (Vishnu bhagat) and Prehlaad (Vishnu bhagat) meditated on Hari/Vishnu.

Background -
In Vaishnav religions, Ram is another name of Vishnu/Hari. With the physical body of Ram being a vehicle of Vishnu/Hari/Ram.
Atma can unite with Vishnu/Ram - one who resides everywhere - though love.

Kabir ji says ਭੋਲੇ ਭਾਇ ਮਿਲੇ ਰਘੁਰਾਇਆ
King of Raghu Clan can only be met through innocent love.
King of Raghu Clan is an epithet of Ram Chandra ji that makes reference to his clan called the Raghus.

3. Thirdly, Dasam Granth is a compilation of multiple books, with a lot of mini books and smaller compositions, all compiled together.
A. It is a compilation of multiple books like -
-Bachittar Natak Granth
No doubts. These names are written internally in those books.
B. Each book has a different belief structure.

In Chaubis Avtar, there is worship of Bhagwati for instance.

ਅਥ ਦੇਵੀ ਜੂ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤ ਕਥਨੰ ॥
Now I will recite praises of Devi.

Then the author goes on to worship Devi's qualities.

Is it any surprise that he later says -
ਮੈ ਨ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ॥ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥ I don't worship Ganesh or Krishna-Vishnu.
- Chaubis Avtar

Remember both the worship of Devi and the statement of non-worship of Ganesh and Vishnu is written in Chaubis Avtar.
ਅਥ ਦੇਵੀ ਜੂ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤ ਕਥਨੰ ॥ and following stanzas...
ਮੈ ਨ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ॥ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥
Both are part of the same composition.
Is it any surprise that he doesn't worship those names but worships Devi instead?
Why does he worship Devi?
...because that is his belief system.

It is a different religion. Shakat religion (Devi) is different than Ganapatya (Ganesh) and Vaishnav (Krishna-Vishnu) religions.

In Gyan Prabodh, the author says -
ਜੋ ਇਹ ਕਥਾ ਸੁਨੈ ਅਰੁ ਗਾਵੈ ॥ ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਤਿਹ ਨਿਕਟਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੀ ਏ ਫਲੁ ਹੋਈ ॥ ਆਧਿ ਬਯਾਧਿ ਛ੍ਵੈ ਸਕੈ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥੮੫੯॥
Whoever listens to this story and sings this story (Ramayan), he will be free from the sufferings and sins. The reward of the devotion to Vishnu (and his incarnation Ram) is that no ailment of any kind will touch him.

These 9 types were taught by Bhagat Prahlaad ji and were first mentioned in the Bhaagvat Puran.

quote -
(22) Hiranyakas'ipu said. 'Now tell me Prahlâda, my son, what you, well taught as you are oh love of my life, consider the best of all that you all this time have learned from your teachers.'

(23-24) S'rî Prahlâda said: 'To listen, to sing, to remember Vishnu, to attend to the feet, to offer worship and prayers, to become a servant, to be a friend and to surrender one's heart and soul. These are the nine characteristics of the devotional service to Vishnu delivered by the devotee. This is the way one should relate to the Supreme Personality. That I consider the best that one can learn.'
 
http://bhagavata.org/canto7/chapter5.html

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SGGS Ang- 71 

Bhagat Navaie Parkara.
There are nine forms of devotional worship 
 
Baba Tirath Singh Nirmala in his translation of Pundit Gulab Singhs Bhavrasamrit (p42-44) mentions the nine limbs of Bhakti which are referred to in the Sikh tradition as the Nvai Parkar (Nine methods):

1. Sravan - hearing the divine* praises.
2. Kirtan - singing the praised of the divine.
3. Simran - remembrance of the divines name.
4. Padsevena - service and offerings at the divines feet.
5. Archana - worship the divine.
6. Bandana - prostration before the divine.
7. Dasyam - developing feeling or emotion of being the divine's servant.
8. Sakhyam - cultivating the emotional bond of friendship.
9. Atma Nivedana - surrender of the self to the divine.
Unquote (N30SINGH)

This is beautiful. 
Thank you.

You will be surprised how much of our disease, problems etc either stem from our past life, or than from our current state of consciousness. Through the state of consciousness we are in we could either manifest health, or we can manifest diseases.
And, I do agree with Satgur Parsaad one can be saved from his illness etc. The more I fall deep into dharmic gyan, the more I see illusions. I see man live by lower level conscious. And, no I am not a gursikh, or some sant baba, I'm just your average dude who listen to music while I'm at work.

You will be surprised how much of our disease, problems etc either stem from our past life, or than from our current state of consciousness. Through the state of consciousness we are in we could either manifest health, or we can manifest diseases.
And, I do agree with Satgur Parsaad one can be saved from his illness etc. The more I fall deep into dharmic gyan, the more I see illusions. I see man live by lower level conscious. And, no I am not a gursikh, or some sant baba, I'm just your average dude who listen to music while I'm at work.

What reduces more illness though? Living life according to a brahmgyanis advice or western civilization? 
I've cured a disease that western medicine wasn't working on with meditation. A lot of people are alive where medical science stopped and God picked up. 
Remember to take the number of lives saved by medical science and subtract the deaths. How many people brahmgyanis kill?
Did the dr save a life or prolong it? A brahmgyani can save a life. 
Salute to real drs performing nedical science but it's not as cut and dry as all that. They call it medical practice for a reason. 

Satinaamu Sri Vaheguru.
The app is so beautiful and the function and features. Wow. Like seriously this is one of the best apps I've seen thus far.
Thank you for the enlightenment on this app.

Ik Oangkar Satigur Parsaadi has always been used even when issuing hukams to the panth. Heck even on wedding cards.

This is very interesting. Where did you find this? What text is this?
What does it imply when it says "You are known as..."
What app do you use?

I think it's some of the lighter skinned hindus in the north that are inimical to us. The ones down south haven't been subjected to the antiSikh propaganda the northern ones have.....not yet anyway.........   

Maybe it's a generational thing. Now, to get at Hindus we start to attack other Panjabi shaheeds. In colonial times, apnay started sidelining Dasam Granth because they thought it was 'hindu'. For people of my time, people like Bhagat Singh and Udham Singh are maximally respected. Whatever India has done since them, doesn't reflect on them. 
It's like that stupidity of not calling diwali diwali to me, despite Guru ji calling it thus. If we want to attack and confront the establishment, we shouldn't start attacking Panjabi shaheeds too. 
And I'm pretty sure Bhagat Singh turned atheist/commie because he was probably disgusted at seeing how the brits were mass manipulating the majority of dumbo pendus, and through them, Sikhi (to the point of creating some new protestant 'Sikhism' which many still latch onto). As well as mass manipulating them into being their poster boy, imperial attack dogs. It's cringe worthy. These people seem exactly like dogs in that they seem to run around looking for a master and can't function without one.  No independent spirit.  What's next? Are people going to start insulting the Gaddari babay because some of them (presumably to make allies against the colonialists) were also communist? Who we going to diss next? Sohan SIngh Bhakna??    
Now, Mann, who I used to have a lot of respect for, starts telling apnay to start jumping into wars in europe again, like we haven't learnt any lessons from that. What century is he living in?  F**k that!