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Same logic is used to say Guru Nanak was Hindu simply due to parents. Those that believe in Gurmat cannot be Muslim or Hindu. If I set up a Mosque in memory of Guru Nanak it will not make Guru Sahib Muslim. Bhagat Sadhna Ji rejected Islam and Muhammad due to slavery being ok in Islam

Bhagat Sadhna Ji was NOT a Muslim.
 
 

all who profit earn the karma, including the butcher, the owner, and the eater, and the farmer. taken from a sant's katha, don't recall who.
 
 cut it down, you have to protect your family's health and safety. i'll give an example, if i see a spider  in the house i'll gently pick it up and put it outside. i don't want to unnecessarily kill living things. but if I saw a cockroach I would kill it b/c they carry disease. it would be  a greater wrong to let it live and expose my family to disease. btw, there are no roachs in my very clean house, just an example :)
 

Bhagat Sadhna j iwas a butcher and he was enlightened.

However Bhai Gurdas ji warns that just because Sadhna ji was a butcher doesn't mean you should become one too.

One of the ways to perform black magic is through a Jinn.
You can try the following Jaap (Shabad on the right below) for protection against such entities.

 
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Brother, you can get a Sri Sampat Akhand Path done for the removal of Black Magic. Magic (Sihr) involves a contract with a Jinn to affect the victim.
Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindranwale used the following shabad as a Sampat, for removal of negative entities from the house of a Singh.
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ਪਰੇਤਹੁ ਕੀਤੋਨੁ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਤਿਨਿ ਕਰਣੈਹਾਰੇ ॥
ਸਭੇ ਸਿਖ ਉਬਾਰਿਅਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਕਾਜ ਸਵਾਰੇ ॥
ਨਿੰਦਕ ਪਕੜਿ ਪਛਾੜਿਅਨੁ ਝੂਠੇ ਦਰਬਾਰੇ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਵਡਾ ਹੈ ਆਪਿ ਸਾਜਿ ਸਵਾਰੇ ॥੨॥
 
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If you are a non-Amritdhari and you feel that you are a victim of Black magic, then you should consume Khanday da amrit.
If you are an Amritdhari, then please go for a Peshi to Panj Pyaray. Panj Pyaray should be able to find a solution to your problem as they are the from of Sri Satguru jee.
Panj Singhan may mayro vassa
 
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Nothing is more powerful than your paat in helping you in this situation. 

Sukhmani Sahib. 
 
Seek sanctuary in the pure bani of Guru Arjun Dev Ji and nothing can even touch you.

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The scripture of Shri Sukhmani Sahib protects one from witchcraft, black magic, ghosts and spirits, superstitions and from others being envious of you.
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Good stuff man!   Having dreams of flying at will are real good signs that you are rising above the rest that are around you. The ability to keep the awareness that you can do it in the dream state is also good. These occur during the real vivid dream state that I think is REM sleep. My own understanding is that at this stage we may well be on a different plane and you should probably take notice of some place or surroundings that seem to reappear but maybe with different people every time. I do believe there is a plane/realm where abyasees can meet together but I need to confirm the surroundings with someone else.
The best control that you can have is that at the time of the deeper REM state, to know that you are in a dream realm and also to be aware that you can pretty much do anything like fly or whiz through the skies at rapid speeds. You can help achieve this by telling yourself or your sub-conscious that you want to be fully aware when dreaming and to know that when you wake up you will leave the realm. REM sleep cycle can be about 45-80 minutes, but the actual dream time can seem like several hours with several different events. I think that these deepere vivid dreams are also the ones when you may be accidently woken up by something, but then you can easily drift back into the same place from where you left off.
 

I see 
When my mind was narrow I would read bhakts poems and quotes and would wonder that if they are bhakts why they love o.o but later I realized everything 
After ur mind progress u realize that poems are For God and finally poems starts making more sense 
 
*Check profile of ppl here * great interest !
Yup veer g reminds me about time when Guru g said Bhai Nand g to ask anything 
Throne , money , wealth fame power 
But out of humility and such a beautiful heart bhai nand g said that 
Maharaaj  bus eh kirpa kro ki tuhada darshan krke aakhiyain cho ras aa jaya kre 
(Lord Please grant me blessing that whenever I do darshan of you
My eyes start getting amrit)
Bhul chuk maaf

Rumi was awesome. I wish I can feel the same love as he did for his Master.
So is Bhai Nand Lal Ji, his love for Guru Gobind Singh Ji.
I would be blessed to have a single drop of their ocean full of love & devotion.

Sure lol
And I see well actually my mother astral travel is limited 
She had bhakti from previous birth and she did seva at sant isher singh g places every month for many years 
Why don't u wanna see ghosts? Make some gang of ghost friends lol 
Have u heard that some person with astral plane was first to reveal ring around Jupiter ?
I'll make point again 
Bhakti > mokh duar (hearing universal sounds) 
> astral plane (sahas Dan kanwl)
> trikuti 
> dasam duar 
>  sunn 
> sachkhand
Reaching mokh duar and astral plane is not hard it will take u maximum 6 months or less  start reciting mool mantar or Gur mantar
There was a Pandit Ji (I think his name was Mita Nand or Nita Nand) during the time of Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji. One day he was sitting in langar next to some Guru Ke Singh and he overheard them saying how long it takes them to get to Sachkhand. One Singh said, “I close my eyes and I get to Sachkhand and when I open them, I’m back here again, that is how fast it is”. 

The Pandit Ji was shocked to hear this and went to Maharaj and said, "Maharaj Ji, tuwade sikh ehna jhoot bolde ne?" (Maharaj Ji, your Sikhs tell lies like that?)

Maharaj said, “Why Mita Nand, what happened?”

He went on to tell Maharaj what he had heard whilst sitting in langar and Maharaj started laughing. The Pandit Ji then said in the Vedas it says that a punni person, (somebody who does good deeds) takes a few months to get to Sachkhand and a pappi person, (somebody who does bad deeds) takes them a very very long time to get to Sachkhand. It's almost impossible. 

But how can your Sikhs say that they can get to Sachkhand by just closing their eyes? How is this possible Maharaj Ji?” 

Maharaj then explained that doing good or bad deeds is very different from doing bhagti. Maharaj went on and said that a Guru Ka Sikh does not get involved with too much of each as his journey should have bhagti in it. Guru Sahib asked Mita Nand if he also wanted an avastha of the likes he had heard from the Singhs in langar. Mita Nand quickly replied, “Of course Maharaj”. 

Maharaj told the Pandit Ji to do Sri Mool Mantar Sahib Ji 22 hours a day - one after the other followed by 2 hours of sleep for 6 months none stop. He was also told that while doing Sri Mool Mantar Sahib Ji he should also do seva in the langar. 

The Pandit Ji said, “Satbachan” and followed Guruji’s instructions. After 6 months passed like this he came back to Guru Sahib and placed his head at Maharaj’s charankamal and said, "Maharaj Ji, your Sikhs do not lie! Now when I close my eyes I also go to Sachkhand and when I open them Im back here, just like that.

Well Im guy who spent time with ghosts from childhood 
Our home had grave near it and we had many weird experiences 
One day I even had a dream that I was reciting jap g sahib and some spirit was trying to stop me from reciting bani 
It did best and in end I gave up lol 
That was mu biggest mistake 
After that we transfered to rent house 
And saw a blood hand on wall 
And mother used to feel some weird power trying to force her and hurt her
I used to be always sick I spent 2 years on bed mostly it was my fault to stop reciting jap ji sahib :p
After that we called for A Gursikh he told us that ghost he see is really big 
(Note I wasn't baptisized Sikh neither I knew abt Sikh religion which was my own religion :p  lol I only had kesh and beard)
We gone to many dera 
Peer , nihang or vadbhaagi dera but none worked it was great suffering after losing hope and getting sick of going outside we came in sharan of Guru Granth sahib g in place of Guru teg bahadur sahib charan choh sthaan 
I did Seva for 1 year after that we never felt any of these problems 
 
Once a Sikh told to Guru Gobind Singh that ...
O almighty there is a Sikh who is possessed by ghost 
Do this ghosts even bother Sikhs ?
Guru g told that it's not possible The Sikh who recites jap g sahib never will face these problems
 
P.s sorry for my grammar I'm sleepy n too lazy to check :p

I have personally never seen a ghost or apparition, neither any other entities. And I do not wish to see them either lol. As a kid I did though. Always loved supernatural stuff.
The only genuine story I can tell is when my cousins saw something. They were in the fields around mid night, just laying down. The power cut was going on in the village, and they were just waiting so that they could turn on the water pump and start irrigating the paddy fields. Then they both saw a form , quite ahead of them, illuminating with white light. They said they could not make out if it was a lady or not. They just lied there and petrified in form. When they started following it, the form was taking steps and moving further and further away from them. Eventually it disappeared. After that day, one of my cousin who was kind of non-believer started having more faith in Sikhi. He must have been petrified to death that his beliefs were changed. I guess good for him lol.
Thats the only genuine story I could think of, the others are just stories about ghosts

Maha Kharag Singh,

You might be familiar with this one, I know Tantrics look for the bones of the deceased ones, But I have also heard that they especially look for those who died young or died unmarried. What might be the reason for this one ?

Also this incident happened with my Nani ji. She was a great abhyaasi of Gurbani and Naam. The place where my naanke are (village Kutbinangal) it is said the area was mainly occupied by Muslims before the partition of India and Pakistan. And there was a Muslim lady who died in her shila or chalisa and her shila was broken, she was trying to acquire dark powers. Now her soul or something must have been attached to that place or roaming there. My Nani ji had shifted to that place from pakistan after the partition in 1947. One day when she was doing ishnaan at amritvela that a powerful force threw her and attacked her and even caused bruises on her body. Nani ji had seen her .Maybe she wanted noone to be occupying that house , who knows what was the reason. My Nani ji then started doing even more path and nitnem , and after a while it was said that no such incident ever happened after.This incident again emphasizes the importance of Gurbani and Naam.

They insist on complete shudta from the Paathis, and have a regular team of tested Paathis - this is really important - the first time Sant Isher Singh Ji asked Bibi Ji to hold a Paath for someone, the Rooh didn't go - later it named the Paathi who sat for duty without sucham. The people listening to Paath also have to stay 'sucha' while listening to Paath, and become vegetarian.

By the way, it's not a Nanaksar dera but linked to Rarasahib, also the Rooh did get Mukti on that occasion but I think the Mahapursh don't like bringing attention on themselves. There was a case where the Roohs (there were 3!) said they would go but take the sick woman with them - they were convinced to go once reminded what lies in store if they don't (i.e. staying in this world) and left her alone.

As such it's not really exorcism but giving Mukti. In some cases, the Rooh is there because of the "laen-daen" or attachments from previous lives or even dead loved ones from this life.

It's when you see stuff like this with your own eyes that you start to appreciate the reasons for keeping sucham and the Maryada of Akhand Paaths and reading Bani in general and above all, the immense power of Gurbani.

Don't know about Soho Road, but Taksaal certainly don't say this....as seen in 1984.

Anyway, back to topic....

MahaKharag Singh, I wish the book "Preython Kithey Devte" by the Jathedar at Gurudwara Sant Ashram, Bhorasahib, Hapur (where the Suleman episode took place) was on-line. I have seen exorcisms carried out PURELY through the correct use of Gurbani at this place, not withstanding the fact that Sant Isher Singh ji gave this duty, in writing, to the present Sant (Bibi Ji) at the Gurudwara.

In one case, i was present in the room with a family of a very sick man. (They had come seeking a cure after hearing that people are healed here) They were asked to listen to a Saptah Paath (carried out over 7 days - about 204 Ang read every day starting at the same time every A.M.).

On the last day, after the bhog, a Rooh spoke in the sick man, asking for Mukti. When questioned, he revealed the name of the Pir who sent him and also the name of the man's relative who went to the Pir to get the toona done. The Rooh also said how he was very afraid of the Pir, who was very powerful and that he would only leave the man if given Mukti. Bibi Ji said Maharaj Ji would give Mukti and to say Fateh and leave with the (Gupt) Singhs. After saying Fateh (this took some effort!), he was gone.

Anyway, to cut a log story short, there was no beating or screaming etc in all the days that I stayed there - also every case was slightly different, the common factor being the use of Gurbani to get the desired result 100% of the time (provided certain requirements are fulfilled e.g. doing a specified no. of JapJi sahibs etc).

I spoke to the Jathedar Ji of the Dera and he explained that problems begin when someone who is not Mukt themselves attempts to give Mukti. They may get the Rooh in question to leave but it sometimes gets violent and leaves a void that they sometimes fill with another Rooh, giving the impression that all is well - then 3 years down the line the pain begins again.

This is just a part of my own experience - I could go on and on about the things I've seen and heard, but sometimes you have to be there to believe it.

I really recommend the book I mentioned ( if you want, I can post you a copy - PM me). Also, Suleman reveals much if you listen carefully to the recordings.

The funny thing is, why do most of the practitioners of the "dark arts" seem to be Muslim Pirs - take a look at the back pages of Des Pardes etc to see what I mean. Also, in most of the cases I witnessed, the Rooh(s) sent to cause trouble were formerly Muslims - some of them openly said that the only path to Mukti was Gursikhi.......

ill tell you something never ever ever unless you some form of protection from Tantra or Kala Alam go to a Pir or Udhasi, because not all of them can be trusted. Usualy what happens is that these people will get rid of your main ailment but then give you a minor one which cause you to keep going back and give them money to "sort" you out.

With me the very first Udhasi dera that i went to was one which was in my family, some of you may have heard of Kala Sangha and the Baba Kahan Das Ji Dera, Baba Ji's gaddi is within our family (naanke side) and when i went there my Grandmothers brother told me about the order and he said that I had protection from any form of Tantra/ Kala Alam due to A) me being Amritdhari Wearing a kirpan and C) for being Nitnemi. And it was totally on that basis why i went to visit a few Hindu Tantrics and a few Pirs.

I once even tested a Pir Baba and i had an experience which i would never forget, which made me even more paka in my Nitnem, and after when i got back to Kale Sanghe i got shitttar from my Nanis Mama for testing the guy, because he said if he cant do anything to you he can send something to follow you and torment your family.

Because there are two types of Jadoo, one is Apaa Jadoo which involves rituals and the other is the most dangerous Masani, which is the type of jadoo which causes possesions because its the ruh of a dead person.

Apparently what they do is that they (the tantrics) wander around siveh and look for bones of the deceased, and its now common that there is always one person on guard whenever a funeral pyre is being burnt. Because its with the bones of the dead person they bring back its ruh and they bind it to do the tantrics bidding. And the most thing that the masani/ ruh wants is mukti and the tantric will make it do its bidding if it wants its mukti.

Theres two ways in which the masani can get its mukti one is by the tantric releasing it and the other is most common way, where whoever the masani possess will harm him/her so much until he/she comes to an untimely death hence releasing the Masani.

My Nanis mama also said that sometimes when he confronts these entities they ask for mukti but he cant give it because if he does then the person who the masani is possessing will take that person with it too. So he has to force the entity out by hook or crook, and sometimes he has to resort to beating the masani with his "Bhairo" da baseball bat until it leaves the poor person.

Hanji, veer ji it does drain you out.  But i feel so compelled to write about certain topics because I have heard from Mahapurush that such things are alike to doing Nindya of Guru. I am very attached to Kaleran wale mahapurush and their bachans are like set in stone for me , so whenever I read that goes against what they taught I have this urge to spill it out. Maybe I need to control it and keep it inside. Maybe thats what I will do from now on .

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Excellent news brother. Thanks for clarification. It is great that those Singhs follow Taksali Maryada. Hopefully, more and more Gurudwaras come under Sampradai control with Chardikala Gurmukhs as their leading jathedars/sevadaars.
Also appreciate that you brought this to people's attention. Many people might still be thinking that this Gurudwara is under anti-Sikh elements.
 
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Very normal for some of us, ...especially the upper back.
When I first started to get it, I knew that it was something different, because when it comes to sweating or working out; then I've always tended to sweat from the forehead first. When this started happening, I immediately knew it was unusual but along with many other sensory and skin changes, I soon assumed that it was some kind of nerve or neuro stimulation due to simran.. I've heard that all these kind of skin eruptions and sensations are part of the inner cleansing. Once your mann starts to get cleansed, then the dhanh also starts eliminating toxins and all the other negative crap we have.
It is annoying sometimes when you continue to sweat just on the back for about an hour or so!
Keep cleansing and keep drinking the amrit,  Once these layers of mehlh start disappearing, then we can start wiping bad karams and rewriting our destiny.
 
Good to know that you are "kicking it" with the abyaas... Well done kiddo!...keep it up
 

I hope everyone is well. It's been a while.
 
I'm going through a slight issue.
 
My practice has been going well for this past little bit. I feel extreme amounts of energy flowing through the body. But at the same time the body is heating up so much. It's October in Canada but it feels like the body is ready to drown in sweat. I don't mind it but I am concerned. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? 
It's mainly around the upper body. (upper back, shoulders, chest)

Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji maharaj who blessed us with jaap sahib.