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    tva prasad got a reaction from paapiman in Navel displacement - Dharan   
    http://hamaraswasthya.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/shifting-navel-or-naval-displacement-or.html?m=1
    It talks about some yogic asans that can fix the displacement of the navel (under "yoga cure").
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    tva prasad got a reaction from paapiman in Navel displacement - Dharan   
    it explains it in the above link.
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    tva prasad reacted to BhagatSingh in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Cool. This is part of the Anhad Naad. It is the sound of silence. It normally arises from an intense presence of silence.

    When you become silent in the mind and when it is silent outside, then you will hear this. But it will start to go away as your mind becomes noisy and as your outside environment becomes noisy. You will start hearing those sounds instead.
    It is not always necessarily connected to outside noises or mental noise but it often is. It is often related to silence.
    Sometimes you will randomly hear it, even when the mind is not silent or environment is not silent, when you do just become silent and listen to silence.
    This sound is a Sign to remain silent.
     
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    tva prasad reacted to Sat1176 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Please do elaborate and tell us which of the anhad sounds you are hearing?
    Your diagram reminds me of the following gurbani pangtis.
    The True Guru is the All-knowing Primal Being; He shows us our true home within the home of the self.
    ghar meh ghar daykhaa-ay day-ay, so satgur purakh sujaan.
    The Panch Shabad, the Five Primal Sounds, resonate and resound within; the insignia of the Shabad is revealed there, vibrating gloriously.
    panch sabad Dhunikaar, Dhun tah baajai, sabad neesaan.
    Worlds and realms, nether regions, solar systems and galaxies are wondrously revealed.
    deep lo-a paataal tah khand mandal hairaan.
    The strings and the harps vibrate and resound; the true throne of the Lord is there.
    taar ghor baajintar tah saach takhat sultaan.
     
    Listen to the music of the Sukhman Channel and concentrate on the sunn.
    sukhman kai ghar raag sun sunn mandal liv laa-ay.
     
    Contemplate the Unspoken Speech, and the desires of the mind are dissolved.
    akath kathaa beechaaree-ai mansaa maneh samaa-ay.
    The heart-lotus is turned upside-down, and is filled with Ambrosial Nectar. This mind does not go out; it does not get distracted.
    ulat kamal amrit bhari-aa ih man katahu na jaa-ay.
     
    It does not forget the Chant which is chanted without chanting; it is immersed in the Primal Lord God of the ages.
    It remembers the lord without chanting and the mind is immersed in the primal truth of the ages.
    ajpaa jaap na veesrai aad jugaad samaa-ay.
    All the sister-companions are blessed with the five shabads. The Gurmukhs dwell in the home of the self deep within.
    sabh sakhee-aa panchay milay gurmukh nij ghar vaas.
    Nanak is the slave of that one who seeks the Shabad and finds this home within.
    sabad khoj ih ghar lahai naanak taa kaa daas.
    Ang 1291
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    tva prasad reacted to Xylitol in Did humans actually evolve from apes (Darwin's theory of evolution) according to sikhism?   
    we did not evolve from apes. 
     
    also, not too long ago, scientists found a humanoid skeleton that was so old they concluded that humans cannot have evolved from apes, but instead evolved from other humanoid ancestors. you won't hear much about this b/c many scientists promoting evolution are nastiks and use it to attack christianity. they hold numerous aspects of it that re meant to be theoretical as if they are fact. not a very scientific approach. 
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    tva prasad reacted to Guest in Why Sikhi failed to spread   
    Another thing i have noticed singhs in panj pyares  these days for most part consider their job as part time in sikhi for example they come out once an while in nagar kirtan photo-ops, amrit sanchars.. Our panj pyares honor chivalry title of satguru poora of khalsa is been reduced to mere symbolic representation rather than pratical title of puratan times. For example in soraj parkash granth, there is whole episode of bhai dya singh ji - mukhi of panj pyares giving spiritual discourse of atma to sangat for a month, in puratan times panj pyares were more engaged in sangat than being pure symbolic gesture. Now great chivalrous panj pyares is been reduced to individual sants, jathedars who are more concerned about their dera, dal, cult, personality cult than bigger picture.
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    tva prasad reacted to das in Why Sikhi failed to spread   
    Isn't this because we've tried to trap Sikhi in a box and not understood the real thing? Haven't we reduced Sikhi to grow hair and Amrit (sanskar)? or may be it's just the effect of Mind/Kaal because it is said in Bhagat Kabir's Anurag Sagar that whenever any Saint/Guru will come to earth for the betterment of mankind, then Kaal will try everything to derail that stream....
     
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    tva prasad reacted to JasperS in Lord Singh's email on Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib   
    Absolutely! There is no doubt! 
    And so is everything else in Creation! Because God is all there truly is. All the trees, the sky, the animals, all humans. 
    The difference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji and us, is that the veil we operate through, which keeps us from realizing the truth has been lifted. He and God were ONE and the same. The body however was still part of the creation. But the consciousness was God fully realized. How does one realize that death is false and conquer it while alive? By realizing the body is NOT the identity. The doer, the awareness which animates us all, is God and only God. I believe this is what the Gurus were teaching us, how to realize this truth.
    The truth that He IS Me. And to recognize your own self:
    ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
    Bin gur parīṯ na ūpjai ha▫umai mail na jā▫e.
    Without the Guru, love does not well up, and the filth of egotism does not depart. 
    ਸੋਹੰ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਭੇਦਿ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Sohaʼn āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai sabaḏ bẖeḏ paṯī▫ā▫e.
    One who recognizes within himself that, "He is me", and who is pierced through by the Shabad, is satisfied.
    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਅਵਰ ਕਿ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਇ ॥੯॥
    Gurmukẖ āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai avar kė kare karā▫e. ||9||
    When one becomes Gurmukh and realizes his own self, what more is there left to do or have done? ||9||
    ਮਿਲਿਆ ਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੇਲੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲੇ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Mili▫ā kā ki▫ā melī▫ai sabaḏ mile paṯī▫ā▫e.
    Why speak of union to those who are already united with the Lord? Receiving the Shabad, they are satisfied.
    ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਨਾ ਪਵੈ ਵੀਛੁੜਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਖਾਇ ॥
    Manmukẖ sojẖī nā pavai vīcẖẖuṛ cẖotā kẖā▫e.
    The self-willed manmukhs do not understand; separated from Him, they endure beatings. (by not understanding they remain in the illusion of separation)
     
    I have seen lately however that a lot of young Singhs want to apply Abrahamic lens on Sikh philosophy and they are not compatible.  Abrahamic teaching is that God is separate from creation, therefore, humans are something separate from God. Gurbani tells us that God is not something separate from us sitting on a cloud. God is within ourselves, and everything and everyone else too! There is only one supreme consciousness and its the same one behind every set of eyes. If there is only ONE, then logic dictates that there can't be 'others'. In fact the idea of a soul is even been distorted because in reality there are no separate souls. There is only ONE. Its like we are characters in a big dream. But there is only the ONE dreamer. But it is possible for the characters to become aware who they really are, and awaken within the dream. But if there is only ONE dreamer, then everything in the dream must actually be the dreamer. 
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    tva prasad got a reaction from paapiman in Sant Harnam Singh Ji Meets Jesus, Mohammed And Bhrighu Rishi   
    and it's a true story not a myth.
    only a brahmgiani can truly understand a brahmgiani. First reach brahmgian avastha then u can judge such brahmgianis.
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    tva prasad reacted to Pheena in Why Buddhist are atheist??   
    As long as you feel you have known God, you are under an illusion -- you err.

    For whatever you have known cannot be God, whatever you have measured cannot be God, whatever you have fathomed cannot be God. You must be diving into some lake; you are nowhere near the ocean. You have gone into some insignificant valley; you have not known the abysmal depths where falling is endless. You must have climbed some nondescript hill on the outskirts of your village; you have no knowledge of His Everest where climbing is impossible. We have succeeded in climbing the Everest of the Himalayas, though with great difficulty, but to scale His Everest is unthinkable.

    Why is it impossible? Try to understand how inconceivable it is to gauge or understand God.... we are a part of Him. How can a part know the whole? I can hold everything of this world within my hand, except myself. How can I hold myself in my own hand? My eyes can see everything under the sun, but how can they look at me? They cannot see me completely for the simple reason that they are a part of me, and the part can never know the whole; it may get glimpses but not the complete picture.

    The difficulty is that we are a part of this vast expanse. Had we not been a part of God we would have known Him; had we been distinct and separate from Him, we could have gone around Him and investigated. But we are a part of Him; we are His very heartbeat, His breath! How can we go around Him? How can we grasp Him? Man is but a particle of sand in this vast expanse, a drop in the ocean.

    How can this one lonely drop contain the whole ocean? How can it know the entire ocean?

    This is very interesting: the drop is in the ocean and the drop is the ocean. So in a very profound sense, the drop knows the ocean, because the ocean is not different from the drop. And yet in another sense it cannot know the ocean because the ocean is not separate from it. This is the biggest paradox of religion: we know God and yet we do not know Him at all. How can this be when He throbs in us and we in Him? We are not far from Him; in fact there isn't the slightest distance between Him and us.

    So in a sense we know Him well; and yet we do not know Him at all, because we are a part of Him. How can a part know the whole? We dive in Him, we float in Him, live in Him; at times we forget Him and sometimes we remember Him. Sometimes we feel ourselves very near Him and sometimes far. In clear moments we feel that we have known Him. When the heart gets over-filled, we know that we have known, because we have recognized Him. Wisdom comes, then again it is lost and there is deep darkness. Then we falter again. But this very state of knowing and not knowing is the basic condition of a religious person.

    When anyone questioned Buddha about God he would keep silent. What could he say? Contradictions cannot be spoken about. If he were to say, "I know," he would be making a mistake, because who can say that he knows? And if Buddha were to say he did not know, he would be making a false statement, because who knew more than he!

    Early one morning a very learned pundit came to Buddha to ask about God. Buddha remained silent. Soon the pundit left. Ananda asked Buddha why he had not answered, since the pundit was a man who knew a great deal and deserved an answer. Buddha said, "Just because he is deserving, it is all the more difficult to give him an answer. If I said I have known Him, it would be wrong, because without knowing Him completely how could I claim to know Him at all? I I said I did not, that too would be false. All claims derive from the ego and the ego can never know Him. Since he is deserving and intelligent and understanding, I had to keep silent. He understood. Did you not see him bow before he left?"

    Then Ananda remembered how the pundit was so grateful that he bowed reverently at Buddha's feet. "How wonderful! Did he really understand? That never occurred to me."

    Buddha replied, "Horses are of three types. The first type you hit with a whip and they will move, inch by inch. The second type you need not whip; just threaten them and they move. For the third, you need not even crack the whip; just the shadow of the whip sets them going. The pundit belongs to the third type. I had only to show him the shadow and he started on the journey."

    Words are the whips; silence is the shadow. Words are needed, because it
    is the rare horse that responds to the shadow of the whip. The condition of one who knows is such that he cannot say he knows, and he cannot say he does not know.

    He is in between knowing and not knowing.

    Nanak says He is without end. Whatever you say of Him is too little. You keep on saying and yet you find that there is so much to say that you have hardly said anything. All expressions regarding Him are incomplete. And all scriptures are incomplete; they are meant for the horses who don't respond to the shadow of the whip.
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    tva prasad reacted to Sat1176 in Yoga Vasistha   
    If  the  mind  remains  absorbed  even  for  a  quarter  of  an  hour  it  undergoes  a  complete  change,  for  it  tastes the  supreme  state  of  self-knowledge  and  will  not  abandon  it.  The  very  seeds  of  samsara  (world appearance  or  cycle  of  birth  and  death)  are  fried.  With  them,  ignorance  is  dispelled  and  the  vasanas  are utterly  pacified;  one  who  has  reached  this  is  rooted  in  satva  (truth).  He  beholds  the  inner  light  and  rests  in supreme  peace.
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    tva prasad reacted to Lucky in Did humans actually evolve from apes (Darwin's theory of evolution) according to sikhism?   
    Darwin's, and the whole ape to man theories make it seem that we are a Coincidental product of evolution. That by chance or some law of outcomes we have ended up to mankind civilisation.
    I think that gurbani makes it pretty clear for me that we are a Deliberate (not coincidental) product of God's creation. The human janam, the male/female. the karams, the lekha, etc..are all deliberate products from and for the Mann(mind)
    Gurbani says..

    ਗਉੜੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
    Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 1.
    Gauree, First Mehl:
    ਜਾਤੋ  ਜਾਇ  ਕਹਾ  ਤੇ  ਆਵੈ  ॥
    Jāṯo jā▫e kahā ṯe āvai.
    How can we know where we came from?
    ਕਹ  ਉਪਜੈ  ਕਹ  ਜਾਇ  ਸਮਾਵੈ  ॥
    Kah upjai kah jā▫e samāvai.
    Where did we originate, and where will we go and merge?
    ਕਿਉ  ਬਾਧਿਓ  ਕਿਉ  ਮੁਕਤੀ  ਪਾਵੈ  ॥
    Ki▫o bāḏẖi▫o ki▫o mukṯī pāvai.
    How are we bound, and how do we obtain liberation?
    ਕਿਉ  ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ  ਸਹਜਿ  ਸਮਾਵੈ  ॥੧॥
    Ki▫o abẖināsī sahj samāvai. ||1||
    How do we merge with intuitive ease into the Eternal, Imperishable Lord? ||1||
    ਨਾਮੁ  ਰਿਦੈ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਮੁਖਿ  ਨਾਮੁ  ॥
    Nām riḏai amriṯ mukẖ nām.
    With the Naam in the heart and the Ambrosial Naam on our lips,
    ਨਰਹਰ  ਨਾਮੁ  ਨਰਹਰ  ਨਿਹਕਾਮੁ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
    Narhar nām narhar nihkām. ||1|| rahā▫o.
    through the Name of the Lord, we rise above desire, like the Lord. ||1||Pause||
    ਸਹਜੇ  ਆਵੈ  ਸਹਜੇ  ਜਾਇ  ॥
    Sėhje āvai sėhje jā▫e.
    With intuitive ease we come, and with intuitive ease we depart.
    ਮਨ  ਤੇ  ਉਪਜੈ  ਮਨ  ਮਾਹਿ  ਸਮਾਇ  ॥
    Man ṯe upjai man māhi samā▫e.
    From the mind we originate, and into the mind we are absorbed.
    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਮੁਕਤੋ  ਬੰਧੁ  ਨ  ਪਾਇ  ॥
    Gurmukẖ mukṯo banḏẖ na pā▫e.
    As Gurmukh, we are liberated, and are not bound.
    ਸਬਦੁ  ਬੀਚਾਰਿ  ਛੁਟੈ  ਹਰਿ  ਨਾਇ  ॥੨॥
    Sabaḏ bīcẖār cẖẖutai har nā▫e. ||2||
    Contemplating the Word of the Shabad, we are emancipated through the Name of the Lord. ||2||
     
    I hope you can see what I'm trying to say here.
    Gurbani tells us: this janam is the ONE opportunity to merge directly with Akaal Purakh. Lakh chaurasi life forms have already been experienced by this mann and now we have an opportunity to get naam and break free. This is the janam, where combined with karam and gyan indries, intellect, brain and the huge learning capacity...we have the abilty to truly "Sacrifice" the dressed up mann to Waheguru..  I've come to personally believe that Akaal Purakh created this environment for the Mann that exists with Male and female aspects,.. and this life is not by chance, we have been through lakh chaurasi and we've begged for his darshan. Now, he gives us the chance, but we still blow it!!
     
     
     
     
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    tva prasad got a reaction from JasperS in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    According to guru ji woman are not weak. If guru ji thought that women r weak do u think they would let them fight in battles with men? Why would they let women take amrit? Why would they let women play gatka, carry the sword, etc.? Guru g has no discrimination against anyone, as his Sikhs neither should we. How is it fair to treat one better than the other if all contain the divine light of god himself? Those who practice discrimination will have to suffer. Those who brought discrimination into sikhi will have to suffer. That is the divine law of karma.
    pati parmeshwar equals faithfull singhni
    what sort of qualities should pati parmeshwar have and what sort should a faithfull singhni have? Good, right?
    good equals good. So it is balanced. The main thing is the respect each other. That I my opinion and I m not saying it is a fact or anything.
    1 thing I hate is discrimination. Discrimination against anything animals, gender, age, etc. I just hate it. It is not human to discriminate other wether it be animal or human.
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    tva prasad reacted to Ragmaala in Hunting   
    No, brother, I personally do not believe in hunting or killing unless it is in self-defence of oneself or family.
    How about you ? What kind of hunting do you want to do ?
    Have you tried paintballing ? It hurts like hell when those paintballs hit you & it is quite close to real combat experience, it makes you nervous & tests your skills under anxiety, if thats what you are looking for ?
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    tva prasad reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    It is probably a feeling of unrest.
    Anyways, the idea is of this exercise i was doing with you, was to bring more clarity into your experience.
    When you meditate you are training your concentration to the point where you can clearly see your experience, as you are experiencing it.

    As you watch your experience as clearly as possible, you will develop insights into your own nature.
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    tva prasad reacted in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    You don't find it to be an injustice toward women to see them as the ones who have to be obedient and serve while the husband is served and obeyed? It certainly makes the preferable position the male one doesn't it? But ask yourself does God create preferable positions? This human life has been given as Gurbani tells us. Not this male human life meaning both are equally given the same opportunity. Then how can one be in a position so limited compared to the other? 
    its an injustice toward those souls who are in female bodies which are the same as souls in male bodies. Pati parmeshwar idea is against gurbani teaching that all humans are equal. Equality includes equal opportunity and worth. Suppressing one in a lower position beneath the other makes the statement of inequality and hierarchy. Sikhi has no hierarchy. 
    And what about patni parmeshwari? Both should see God in each other. That's what gurbani teaches. 
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    tva prasad reacted to Bal Rehal in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    This is the shabad which bhagat Ji recited at that time. I think the sakhi itself is in the Guru Nank Janam sakhi written by Bhai Bala. I am not sure, but I think this shabad is not included in the SGGS. 
    The sakhi goes something like the pundits who were with Naamdev were jealous of Bhagat Naandev Ji. So they planned a clever way to get him killed (indirectly) as there was a well near a certain Mandhir. They invited him to a rein swai where they would perform all night kirtan at this mandhir. There was a haunted well nearby - whoever approached it got killed - therefore it was out of use. 
    Some time into the kirtan, the Pundits started saying they were thirsty. No one would volunteer to go to the haunted well to fetch water. Bhagat Naamdev was sent. 
    When he went there, he saw a huge scary ghosty figure shoot out to stop him from fetching water. However Bhagat Ji saw Parmatmas roop in everyone. Therefore he started to sing this shabad - asking God why he was appearing to him in this dreadful form. 
    The scary roop changed into the image of God which he had fixed in his mind. The evil pundits were thus ashamed. Their plan to kill bhagat Ji did not work. 
     
    Was a human eyeball....very huge... but amazingly I was not scared. It was surrounded by some warm comforting light which just gives you the feeling it is not evil. (as some things which are evil can be sensed right away)
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    tva prasad reacted to Bal Rehal in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    I don't quite know why this had happened but I had a dream after i was reading about the third eye. 
    I am looking at a huge eyeball ..... just eyeball hanging about in the air. 
    Then I get a message like I need to join my hands and ask for kirpa...... The name waheguru gets spelled in Punjabi in the air....(by me using my finger under the guidance of this power)  and I pick that air up and put it on my forehead and pray ..... kirpa karo..... 
    So eyeballs and eyes are not necessarily evil...
    Also the brain will portray to us what we have been thinking about. So if you concentrate on the eyes and shapes.... they will start to distract you....
    They will start to entertain you and you will see good shapes and some evil too...
    However we have to remember that there is good in everything even evil. 
    When Baghat Naamdev was sent to the mandhir which was believed to be inhabited by a deadly spirit - he imagine it to be God and the spirit did change into God to give him darshan. All the pandits were amazed. There is a particular shabad which Bhagat Ji said at that time.
    Therefore we need to train ourselves too to look for good even in evil.
    We are never quite alone, I suppose even when we think we are sitting alone in a room. Other entities are around us watching us. With simran as we become more aware or more enlightened (used for purposes of expression) then it is possible we can sense or see these other entities as eyes.
    It is like when we enter a roomful of people we will feel all their eyes on us. However after some time we forget about it and start to concentrate on ourselves. Perhaps as "aware" people we will keep seeing these things and eyes around us ... and we will just get used to it as time passes. Its just that we have spent so much time in ignorance and maya that we don't know how it feels to be pure and nearer to God's creation, which is vast and unlimited. 
     
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    tva prasad reacted to Lucky in Viewing Husband as God (with evidence)   
    A true gurmukh sees GOD in every one and every thing...........Sabh Gobind hai, Gobind bin na koyee
     
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    tva prasad reacted to mahanpaapi in Viewing Husband as God (with evidence)   
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    tva prasad reacted to paapiman in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Taliban was influenced by Wahhabism and Wahhabi activities are similar to Missionary activities in our religion.
    For example, Wahhabis have destroyed historical and cultural artifacts of Islam. Similarly, during the Singh Sabha Lehar and afterwards, Sikh historical artifacts have been destroyed. If Taksalis (or any other Puratan Samprada) were in control of Sri Akal Takht Sahib jee, then this utter stupidity would not have taken place.
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    tva prasad reacted to JasperS in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Pati Parmeshwar concept has no place in Sikhi. Not unless it goes hand in hand with "Patni Parmeshwari".  Seeing God in each other, it goes both ways.

    ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸੋਇ ॥
    Sabẖ mėh joṯ joṯ hai so▫e.
    The Divine Light is within everyone; You are that Light.
    If the divine light is within everyone as Gurbani says, then I am no more her pati parmeshwar than my wife is my patni parmeshwari. To expect her to look up to me as something higher than her is unthinkable.
    But seeing the divine in someone is different than seeing someone AS God. No human should ever be seen AS God. That is left for Waheguru alone. 
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    tva prasad reacted to paapiman in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    There is no traditional Sikh Samprada/Group (including DDT), which promotes the idea of worshiping husbands. Only Sri Waheguru jee is worthy of worship.
    Gurbani has multiple interpretations, depending on the varying spiritual levels of seekers. It is possible that one might feel that one interpretation is contradicting another one, but in reality those are being directed to different sets of people (who have their unique needs). Gurmukhs will understand this fact, while Manmukhs will argue over it.  
    If in doubt, never ever trust your Mind (Manmat), until you have reached Brahamgyan. Always consult Brahamgyanis or Gurmukhs, who have done sangat of them, to find the truth to clarify your doubts.
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    tva prasad reacted to Lucky in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Gurbani is the Highest like you say and that is what you should always stick with as primary.
    I agree with what you say about  Man=Woman, All is One...but sadly, we have Sikhs that can influence huge people with their own interpretations of gurbani, usually to suit their own agendas.
    Gurbani is the Ultimate TRUTH.  period!... Therefore, if someone distorts it and says that this means that and that means this, but you personally find some sort of contradiction with gurmat.... then you will need to dig for the answer yourself and find the real Truth.
    Basically, if Gurbani is TRUTH, then it is IMPOSSBLE for it to contradict itself because TRUTH can NEVER CONTRADICT.
    The example you mention of woman worshipping man is from a gurbani interpretation. However, it clearly contradicts Guru Nanak ji's Philosophy. Therefore, the interpretation is clearly wrong and misunderstood and we should make it our own duty as Sikhs to find the Truth. Remember, the Truth is within us once you step outside your MIND.
     
     
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    tva prasad reacted to Lucky in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    I would disagree here. The rehat is supposed to be for uniform understanding and uniform learning for Sikhs(learners of guru).  As soon as factions or groups are created, then you have 'manmat-ly' split a uniform/single/oneness teaching into separate ego-systems. We are in maya. Maya is an illusion, our ego creates the ability to live in this illusion and be lost in it. Ego is the single division and separate-ness that we each individually have from God, If we start making further separated divisions of Dharam, in the illusion itself,  then we are dividing the Ego and God himself into further illusions and parts
    GUR-MAT can ONLY be ONE.. We can't have one party claiming this is gurmat and that isn't and the other claiming different.  ThIs is why it NEVER has, and will NEVER work to have a dharam with further groups, factions /sects in itself..
    You can look at it as simple math. If we keep using the division symbol in dharam process....then it will just divide further and further ..and eventually disintegrate to an end. You want to use the multiplication figure to keep growing.  That is the only way forward.
    Look at islam. Tthey have a few "division' signs in the their dharam process, however, their multiplication signs  and multiplying sums, outweigh the divisions tremendously, which is why islam keeps getting bigger and bigger. (not forgetting their additional rabbit-like breeding habits
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