DeNiro

Good man.
You remind me of myself when I was about 23/24 yrs age.  Doing the banis was the ignition that got me climbing. I'd say it  lay the foundations that gave further discipline and dedication.  I maximized the hours and began cutting off from maya with time.   This was preliminary for getting all amped and psyched when I began serious years of bhagti.
 

isn't there relation with the term kirpa and kirpan?
It says "no mercy" above , but kirpa= mercy .  see below
wiki...….
The word "Kirpan" (Gurmukhi: ਕਿਰਪਾਨ ) has two roots - the first root is: Kirpa (ਕਿਰਪਾ ) which means "Mercy, grace, compassion, kindness" and the second root is Aan (ਆਨ ) which in turn means "Honor, grace, dignity". So together the word stands for "the dignity and honor of compassion, kindness and mercy".

There are a couple of different stages when "red" is experienced. Gurbani has the answers and an abyasee can interpret these for themselves according to levels of proficiency.    In short, I know there may be encounters with colors earlier on in the game ,  and many hopefuls have got lost at these stages.  Reason why teachers instruct students to NOT look for colors.   I shouldn't be saying too much here since I may face some negative repercussions.    Nevertheless,  seeing as you all know me as Goodfella DeNiro ……….I can add #  If you've seen the clarity of your mind's jot and the prakash of waheguru around you, then once you've crossed the second bhavsagar(after reaching naam), the true color can  reveal itself from your own colorless, but illuminated jot...  
Dear Angie,  I've no idea why you made the above comment with reference to my question below. I was asking if any of the pacharaks mentioned the spiritual significance of RED?     I had only skipped through and listened to a few snippets for the reasons I mentioned. 
 
 
Problem is there are two sides to the coin here. The topic of red color spiritually has nothing to do with what color you physically wear.  The spiritual aspects are the other side of the coin to the physical aspects.  When you see Red in maya, then it is NOT the same as experiencing the love of red in turiya avastha.
It appears to me, the arguments some people are having are a waste of time because there are two different matters that can't be correlated.  
I have no idea whether wearing red is good or bad, and have no right speculating that some rehatnama saying so, maybe wrong.  If your rehatnama says so, then stick to it. Stay away from red. Respect the rules. Learn to discipline yourself.   Red is the heaviest color in maya. It's the most vibrant color coming from white light.  I don't see anything wrong with disciplining yourself to stay away from something in maya. End result will make Mind stronger and that's what the game is all about. 
 Gurbani doesn't say whether to wear red or not. One cannot equate the spiritual significance of color red to wearing red clothes.  Gurbani talks about Red color on a totally different level.  When you start associating it in maya, then it's a whole new ball game.
There are many shabads that mention color red, but I can't recall one stating anything about wearing red or not to wear. If someone has interpreted it in that sense, well good luck to them.  What do I care anyway?   as De Niro famously says " I'm bound for the promised land" 
 
 
 
 

I don't know to be honest but bhai saab has helped encourage huge numbers into sikhi and that;s probably what I try to focus on.  But yes, I never quite understood  about raagmala because he must have gone through various avstha's where raags are heard and experienced.   Some of these levels come quite early after hearing naam and I remember being confused over this issue after I first heard them.  

I don't know to be honest but bhai saab has helped encourage huge numbers into sikhi and that;s probably what I try to focus on.  But yes, I never quite understood  about raagmala because he must have gone through various avstha's where raags are heard and experienced.   Some of these levels come quite early after hearing naam and I remember being confused over this issue after I first heard them.  

I went a number of times with BA as a courier.  That way I'd get the flight for 200 quid single way, whereas it'd normally be 4500 quid. I was a part time student in my 20's in those days.
 
I know what you mean. You go through periods in life where it changes. I've had a number of years when I stayed away from all tv and media entertainment nd just focused on bhagti and finding myself (soul searching like your username) 
Nowadays, I still enjoy the same movies, but I have a much better perspective and perception.  I tend to view them through a lenses of all the characters/actors  in their roles, whereas in my youth, I'd be watching through main characters lens only and focusing only on his actions/reactions.    Have a tendency to watch anything but seeing it from behind the veil.
Currently in U.S.

What? retarded?
It respects it's master and acknowledges who owns it. Dog's can survive very well on their own in their natural habitats like Huskies. But generally, the problem of today's dogs is that they've been too domesticated and yes, they do end up in malnutrition/ill states when abandoned. 
 

okay,if I understood this correctly...….. The ojas is actually the subtle energy in spinal fluid that travels up and down chakras?? possibly in cerebrospinal fluid(CSF)??
and if so, then this same energy can either be transformed and directed upwards to a perfect God like divine energy or it can be directed downwards without effort like gravity, into dirty/sexual energy ?
 

Don't put anyone on a pedestal. Respect anyone who helps you in any way to raise your surti, but don't put them on a pedestal.   Yes, gianni is not a brahmgyaani as brahmgyanee is a misused  term in my opinion.  Brahmgyanee is not referred to a jeev.    A jeev/manook with physical body comes to a life end.  Brahmygaani is an avastha of the mind. That mind sits in Prakash/turiya avastha all the while.  The Sukhmani sahib references are for the brahmgian state of mind and not a physical jeev.

Good book, yes. I read it along time ago when I was in a phase of continuous reading, so, I don't recall much of it.
 
Yes I'm a huge fan.  Back in the day when Concord used to fly from London to New York, I was lucky enough to chat with him on  flight we shared in 1999. 
 

Wow, that's an excellent write up.  You have to pay attention to the details that are summarized. 
I will look at it closely when I get back, but was pleased to note some similarities with my elementary attempt on stages of sunn that I did in a thread some months back.  My summary was based on different materials I had read, some experiences,  gurbani pangtees and more importantly the layout of darbar sahib.  I will look into the above for further gains for better insight.
 

It refers to the original primitive sound of the cosmos and Consciousness. The "Ong" or 'om" as in Ek Ong- kar.  
The frequency of this sound can't be isolated as it is un-struck (an-had). The Tibetan bowl can produce frequencies within closer octave ranges and because of this 'om' like resonance, it can have positive healing effects.
You should hear most of them at some time or another and they can re-appear at different frequencies tio sound like particular instrument's that we are familiar with. Gurbani mentions quite a few of these and on many occasions it gives and idea of avasthas associated.  I believe it's important to decipher gurbani shabads yourself since it delivers at all levels.  
 
You will encounter one or two at a time whilst in the process of purifying Mann. Later, you should hopefully hear more as you proceed along the early bhavsagar and start crossing.  Gurbani give's the nishanees for these throughout and by then, you'll be able to grasp certain shabads with atmic(internal) gyaan to help guide you further. 
 
Yeh, I used to listen a lot to old dharmic geets and digitized most of my own LP's and tapes. The ek-tar sound from one string is amazing. All sounds from multi-string instruments originate from the single tar. 
I know it's difficult to distinguish and isolate at times. The bowl "om" is like a constant bass line but you will perceive it with different pitch and amplitudes dependent on consciousness clarity.  Safest way is to try and put dhyian on it to see if it can take you deeper into one-pointed focus. If not, then move on to the dhun of internal jap.  

all of them ..lol
I think it's important to understand that the 5 sounds are categories that we can associate to instruments we know of.  You probably have a good idea already, but i'll summarize below(from previous notes) for the benefit of others.. 
In general categorization of musical sounds Panch Sabad is a set of five kinds of musical sounds. These are as follows:
1. Sounds made from string instruments -sitar,violin, guitar, sarod etc.
2. Sounds made from percussion instruments with skin cloth(leather) -dhol, mridang, drum, tabla, dholak etc.
3. Sounds made from metallic clanging instruments -chimta, chainay, bell etc.
4. Sounds made by wind instrument and puffing breath -flute, conch shell, pipe, horn etc.
5. Sounds made by tapping hollow vessels like pitcher, earthen pot, gharda etc.
Similar categorization used by yogis and travelling musicians
-Sankh (Conch Shell as a wind instrument)
-Mridang (percussion instrument with two sides made up of animal skin similar to dholki)
-Kinguri (a stringed instrument), Single-stringed like “ik-tara” and smaller tumbi. **Interestingly, the smaller tumbi was first made and used by legendry Lal Chand Yamla Jatt and at the time he called it “king” (from kinguri)
. Have a listen to golden oldie "Satguru Nanak teri leela nayari hai"
-Murli, Singi  (Flute, a wind instrument)
-Veena (a huge hollow gourd with strings) 
The general Panj shabad sounds heard whilst doing Simran, or prior to entering Nijh ghar, can be generalized with the above. It’s difficult to specify which string instrument or wind sound is resonating, but one can usually categorize into above.  ie. at certain frequency it may sound like a "singi" as in
ਸਿੰਙੀ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਅਨਾਹਦਿ ਵਾਜੈ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਤੁਮਾਰੀ 
Sińī suraṯ anāhaḏ vājai gẖat gẖat joṯ ṯumārī. 
The horn of consciousness vibrates the unstruck sound current; Your Light illuminates each and every heart, Lord. 
Or at other frequencies it may be more of a snake charmers "beena", as in ..
ਬੀਣਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵਜਾਵੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਦਰਸਨਿ ਰੂਪਿ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥
Bīṇā sabaḏ vajāvai jogī ḏarsan rūp apārā.
The Yogi who plays on the instrument of the Shabad gains the Blessed Vision of the Infinitely Beautiful Lord.
 
That's a little tricky, but It's about the frequency of vibration.  In the above  video;  the OM caught my attention and I tended towards the primordial 'eko shabad' sound., as per..
ਏਕੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਮੇਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਨਿ ਬਸਤੁ ਹੈ ਬਾਹੁੜਿ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵਾ ॥੧॥
Ėk sabaḏ merai parān basaṯ hai bāhuṛ janam na āvā. ||1||
The One Word of the Shabad abides within my mind; I shall not come to be born again.
I could be wrong and it may well be associated with a category sound, but these Tibetan bowls and the frequencies are known to be excellent healing sounds just like  primordial om.,  whereas, the other sounds have lesser effect.   ** This is according to my own experience with healing sounds. I had a number of sssions with a music producer (also my physical therapist), in his studio. We experimented with many ranges and harmonies as he'd later monitor for any noticeable changes in my physical appointments.
The ek shabad can first start as a low frequency tibetan bowl sound. If you find that it can help grab your focus and take you into deeper meditative state, then you should practice listening to it and soon enough, it's frequency should start increasing as the mann gets more purified.  I know there's an overlap between describing the conch, flute and lower frequency ringing sound. I usually advise that one should try and see if the sound can help them get into deeper simran,  if not, then continue with gurmantar  and  keeping dhyian on the dhun.
 
Worth referring to these past posts for more info on panch shabad 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

The 5 shabads can arise from this primordial type sound and may also merge to form this sound.   

good man.   Seeing aura comes as avastha. Happens before you start seeing prakash around you.   
Early on in thread it's mentioned that you should feel the auras and their vibrations. I agree.   I found it was also good practice to still the mind, since you can only see aura once the mann is tikkya in one place.

That's incorrect today. Tomorrow, you never know!
The high pitched frequencies are what you want to follow. The other sounds you hear are pavan shabads or non-anhad.  The panj anhad shabad in unison are heard in sunn.  Suffice to say, you are not experiencing those from what you mention. Seems like you are jumping ahead of yourself.  Need to be careful because trying to jump ahead is too easy and you can end up wasting months and years.
There s no such thing as yogic anhad or gurmat anhad. Anhad is anhad, period. You need to put attention to saas saas and the primordial sound.  Its no good me jumping ahead and telling you the higher rungs of ladder. You need to climb the lower paurees with confidence and determination.

You can't be serious?
In the video below, you can't hear the siharees??
 
 

Excellent!
"there's 3 ways of doing things around here: the right way, the wrong way and the way that it's supposed to be done"

Do you mean when 5 shabad are all heard together?
This is a short stage that occurs before you enter the gurudwara inside you. The 5 shabad should be recognizable from earlier levels of avastha. At that time, your mind wasn't quite still or in sunn and they would have occurred separately.    At the guru's dwar, the panj shabad sound, and by now you should have killed the 5 dhoots as well. It's just a momentarily occurrence in unison  before the sound of  loud anhad toor comes.
I've know a few fellow abyasees who have got to the these 5 shabads and then got scared or pulled back when they heard the toor. A gurmukh advised that it's because their foundations weren't solid enough and needed more hours listening to shabad.  

good man.   Seeing aura comes as avastha. Happens before you start seeing prakash around you.   
Early on in thread it's mentioned that you should feel the auras and their vibrations. I agree.   I found it was also good practice to still the mind, since you can only see aura once the mann is tikkya in one place.

@BhagatSingh Listen to this recording, it is pretty shudh IMO. You will get a better idea of siharis, aunkars etc