Trimandeep Singh

VJKK VJKF Fellow veers. This is a really good thread and dass would like to add that in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji there so many mistakes printed also as no one is doing anything about it. As Dass was trying to do paath of certain banis from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji in Roman English and the words printed left me shocked so dass printed the banis and uses a pencil to mark where dass finds a mistake whilst listening to the aufio track of the banis that i am trying to do paath from.
https://www.searchgurbani.com/
 
This app is another example of how bad the mistakes are printed as dass used to use this app a lot whilst learning nitnem banis along with a few other paaths.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
Daas wants to forward some really useful information to sangat on this forum.
MISTAKES IN GUTKE AND GURBANI APPS:
Those people who listen to Nitnem Paath from different paathis on YouTube like Taksaal, Nanaksar, AKJ, or those who have read bani from different Pothis or Gurbani apps must have noted that there are some (sometimes many) differerences in their uchaaran (audio) and in spellings of different words and the position of mangals and sirlekhs.
Today,the reason for so many inaccuracies in gutke and Gurbani apps are the selfish motives of the Gurbani press and SGPC and ignorance of panthic jathebandis. To earn profits, they just keep on printing gutke and senchis without doing any research. 
Back then, a great Panthic Scholar Daarji Joginder Singh Talwara Ji was appointed by the panth to do research on puratan saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Pothi sahibs to reduce the differences in saroops. He researched for more than 3 decades and came up with his excellent works which were really ahead of his time.
Daas will give an example in the end.
SANTHIYA AND VICHAR:
Due to the request of UK Sangat, Ex Akaal Takht Jathedar Late Singh Sahib Joginder Singh Vedanti (who was a student of Taksaal and later Talwara Ji) started a Sangat Santhiya class to teach Santhiya and aware sangat of the correct spellings according to puratan handwritten saroops. Daas has joined the Santhiya classes and they are very useful. Currently, our teacher is Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra, head Granthi of Gurudwara Ber Sahib and we are doing Santhiya of Sri Tav Prasad Saviyye. Very knowledgeable gursikhs also attend the class and come up with views of different scholars on uchaaran and spellings of words like Talwara Ji, Vedanti Ji, Taksaal, Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha etc and with sangati vichar, we are able to make our uchaaran more shudh and read words according to Puratan Saroop spellings. If you wish to join, here is the link 
https://chat.whatsapp.com/GXRJKCmVfd23EfplJYM61d
Timings of the class:
Saturday and Sunday 
1:00-2:00 pm UK
5:30-6:30 pm India 
(You can convert the time according to your time zone) 

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EXAMPLE OF INACCURACY:
SRI JAAP SAHIB:
If we ask 3 people that how do they start Sri Jaap Sahib, one will say
1. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ॥   ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥
2. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥
Which one is correct? 
According to the pictures of handwritten puratan saroops given below, the FIRST ONE is correct.

ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਸੰਨ 1755 ਈ. ਦੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ ਦੇ ਅੰਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਾਪੁ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਰਜ਼। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਗੁਰਤੇਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਏ.ਐਸ.ਆਈ., Punjab Digital Library)

ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦੀ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਛੋਟੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪੋਥੀ।

ਸੰਨ 1831 ਈ. ਦੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਦਿੱਲੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ, Punjab Digital Library)

SRI ANAND SAHIB:
There's a prachalit version of Mangal of Anand Sahib.
‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears before ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
However, according to puratan handwritten saroops, the manglacharan is 
‘ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
HOWEVER, After 1735, the handwritten saroops didn't have ਰਾਗੁ in their manglacharan. Their manglacharan was reverse of current manglacharan- 
‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
 
ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਕਮੇਟੀ ਵਲੋਂ ਛਪਾਈਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਵਾਲੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਦੀਆਂ ਫੋਟੋਆਂ।
ਖੱਬੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੧੯੫੮ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ। ਸੱਜੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੦ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ।  
ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਪੋਥੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੋ ਕਿਹਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਛੇਵੇਂ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਹੈ।
ਸੰਨ 1695 ਈ. ਦੀ ਰਾਮਰਾਇ ਵਾਲੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਸੰਨ 1714 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)
SAROOPS AFTER 1735 WITH DIFFERENT MANGLACHARAN (RAAG OMITTED IN RAAG RAMKALI ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ )
ਸੰਨ 1746 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਤਖਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕੇਸਗੜ੍ਹ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਨੰਦਪੁਰ ਸਾਹਿਬ)
ਸੰਨ 1749 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ।
ਸੰਨ 1801 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)
 
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CONCLUSION:
 Many inaccuracies like these are discussed by sangat along with Santhiya vichar. Daas requests sangat here to take out just 2 hours of the week and contribute to the vichar in the class. This will benefit many. Yesterday, we pointed out 2 mistakes in SGPC Gutka and Head Granthi Sahib (Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra) said that he will approach SGPC authorities today and make them aware of the mistakes. By contributing to the vichar, we can help ourselves as well as the concerned Sikhs.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh (INDIA) 

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
Daas wants to forward some really useful information to sangat on this forum.
MISTAKES IN GUTKE AND GURBANI APPS:
Those people who listen to Nitnem Paath from different paathis on YouTube like Taksaal, Nanaksar, AKJ, or those who have read bani from different Pothis or Gurbani apps must have noted that there are some (sometimes many) differerences in their uchaaran (audio) and in spellings of different words and the position of mangals and sirlekhs.
Today,the reason for so many inaccuracies in gutke and Gurbani apps are the selfish motives of the Gurbani press and SGPC and ignorance of panthic jathebandis. To earn profits, they just keep on printing gutke and senchis without doing any research. 
Back then, a great Panthic Scholar Daarji Joginder Singh Talwara Ji was appointed by the panth to do research on puratan saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Pothi sahibs to reduce the differences in saroops. He researched for more than 3 decades and came up with his excellent works which were really ahead of his time.
Daas will give an example in the end.
SANTHIYA AND VICHAR:
Due to the request of UK Sangat, Ex Akaal Takht Jathedar Late Singh Sahib Joginder Singh Vedanti (who was a student of Taksaal and later Talwara Ji) started a Sangat Santhiya class to teach Santhiya and aware sangat of the correct spellings according to puratan handwritten saroops. Daas has joined the Santhiya classes and they are very useful. Currently, our teacher is Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra, head Granthi of Gurudwara Ber Sahib and we are doing Santhiya of Sri Tav Prasad Saviyye. Very knowledgeable gursikhs also attend the class and come up with views of different scholars on uchaaran and spellings of words like Talwara Ji, Vedanti Ji, Taksaal, Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha etc and with sangati vichar, we are able to make our uchaaran more shudh and read words according to Puratan Saroop spellings. If you wish to join, here is the link 
https://chat.whatsapp.com/GXRJKCmVfd23EfplJYM61d
Timings of the class:
Saturday and Sunday 
1:00-2:00 pm UK
5:30-6:30 pm India 
(You can convert the time according to your time zone) 

******************************************
EXAMPLE OF INACCURACY:
SRI JAAP SAHIB:
If we ask 3 people that how do they start Sri Jaap Sahib, one will say
1. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ॥   ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥
2. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥
Which one is correct? 
According to the pictures of handwritten puratan saroops given below, the FIRST ONE is correct.

ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਸੰਨ 1755 ਈ. ਦੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ ਦੇ ਅੰਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਾਪੁ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਰਜ਼। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਗੁਰਤੇਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਏ.ਐਸ.ਆਈ., Punjab Digital Library)

ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦੀ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਛੋਟੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪੋਥੀ।

ਸੰਨ 1831 ਈ. ਦੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਦਿੱਲੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ, Punjab Digital Library)

SRI ANAND SAHIB:
There's a prachalit version of Mangal of Anand Sahib.
‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears before ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
However, according to puratan handwritten saroops, the manglacharan is 
‘ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
HOWEVER, After 1735, the handwritten saroops didn't have ਰਾਗੁ in their manglacharan. Their manglacharan was reverse of current manglacharan- 
‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’
 
ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਕਮੇਟੀ ਵਲੋਂ ਛਪਾਈਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਵਾਲੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਦੀਆਂ ਫੋਟੋਆਂ।
ਖੱਬੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੧੯੫੮ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ। ਸੱਜੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੦ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ।  
ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਪੋਥੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੋ ਕਿਹਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਛੇਵੇਂ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਹੈ।
ਸੰਨ 1695 ਈ. ਦੀ ਰਾਮਰਾਇ ਵਾਲੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)

ਸੰਨ 1714 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)
SAROOPS AFTER 1735 WITH DIFFERENT MANGLACHARAN (RAAG OMITTED IN RAAG RAMKALI ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ )
ਸੰਨ 1746 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਤਖਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕੇਸਗੜ੍ਹ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਨੰਦਪੁਰ ਸਾਹਿਬ)
ਸੰਨ 1749 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ।
ਸੰਨ 1801 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ।
(ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library)
 
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CONCLUSION:
 Many inaccuracies like these are discussed by sangat along with Santhiya vichar. Daas requests sangat here to take out just 2 hours of the week and contribute to the vichar in the class. This will benefit many. Yesterday, we pointed out 2 mistakes in SGPC Gutka and Head Granthi Sahib (Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra) said that he will approach SGPC authorities today and make them aware of the mistakes. By contributing to the vichar, we can help ourselves as well as the concerned Sikhs.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh (INDIA) 

Sikhs don't require this astrologer as they read Japji Sahib everyday. Guru Gobind Singh Ji knows everything, hehe.
Trimandeep Singh 

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
Daas is pained to see that in today's modern world, RSS and other anti Sikh organizations have been successfully able to popularize anti gurmat opinions among Khalsa Panth and Guru Nanak Naam Leva Sangat.
Multiple times these anti Sikh organizations have been identified as doing fake propaganda in the name of supporting and celebrating Sikhi.
On the Gurupurab of Dhan Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji, RSS declared that it will too celebrate the Holy auspicious event. And with no surprise, at the large stage RSS leader openly quoted the Shabad 
'Deh Shiva Bar Mohe Ehai' and said Guru Gobind Singh Ji is asking for a boon to Shiva.
Not only this but Shiv Sena extremists tried to file a case against Sikh community to bring up a law that Sikhs should be allowed to wear only a 4-6 inch Kirpan. The list is endless.
One such opinion that has been popularly spread in the panth is that Guru Gobind Singh Ji had 3 wives.
Daas respects Mahakavi Santokh Singh Ji alot and we can't thank him enough to collect the saakhis of unbelievable karamaats of guru sahibaan. However, it must be noted that the Granth also contains some saakhis which attack the Ucha character of Guru Sahib like doing jhatka on Vaisakhi, Mai Bhago stories, Devi Pooja etc.
The following has been taken from another forum. The post is of a very knowledgeable Rehitvaan Gursikh Bhai Sahib Kulbir Singh Toronto who along with other gursikhs is doing excellent parchar of Sikhi through GURMAT BIBEK CHANNEL on YouTube.
***POST STARTS***
History collected by Mahakavi Santokh Singh jee in Sooraj Prakash has not been refined by Mahakavi jee. He went from village to village and recorded whatever he heard from senior citizens of that time. He did not try to verify or authenticate what he heard and just wrote whatever he heard. We are grateful to him for not judging what he heard and just writing it. I think his function was not writing history but collecting all information possible from people, including local traditions.
The Saakhi of 7 marriages of Siri Guru Har Rai Sahib jee is totally absurd. The only Mehal Guru Sahib had was Mata Kishan Kaur jee. Similarly, the Saakhi of 3 marriages of Siri Guru Hargobind Sahib jee too should be taken with a grain of salt. Not that it makes a difference, even if it was true, because worldly rules don't apply on Guru Sahib but still it is highly unlikely, that Guru Sahib had 3 Mehals. Same is true for Siri Guru Gobind Singh jee. Mata jeeto jee and Mata Sundari jee was probably the same person with Mata Jeeto jee being her name in her parent's home and Mata Sundari jee was the name given by her in-laws. And Mata Sahib Kaur was not a Mehal of Guru Sahib in worldly sense.
Guru Sahib knows better.
Kulbir Singh
***POST ENDS***

Daas would also like to add something. We shouldn't forget that Guru Sahib were perfect and would never do anything against Gurmat Principles. EK NAARI JATI HOYE is a key principle of a Sikh's Grihast Jeevan. Moreover, Guru Sahib always practiced what he preached, not like today's modern day Sikh parcharaks. 
ਔਰਨਕਹਾਉਪਦੇਸਤਹੈਪਸੁਤੋਹਿਪ੍ਰਬੋਧਨਲਾਗੋ॥
O Animal! why do you preach to others, when you are quite ignorant on what you are preaching? 
Guru Sahib would always practice what he preached. He was a true Sant Sipahi and set an example that what a Sikh can do if he follows Rehat and reads bani and japs naam. 

May Guru Sahib bless us all with Bibek Budhi and Prem for Bani 
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib the point is why wouldn't Guru Sahib follow the principles preached by himself. No-one is saying the Guru sahib is 'not allowed' to do xyz because whatever he will do, its the best thing to happen. 
Guru Sahib gave a code of conduct to Sikhs. And Guru Sahib himself set an example for the Sikhs that how much should one be dedicated to Rehat. Guru sahib is parmeshar himself. Why would he have to fight battles, keep Amrit Vela even during a battle and sacrifice his whole family? All of that was his karamaat to inspire Sikhs and set an example of an ideal jeevan of a Sikh.
When Guru Sahib himself doesn't give the right to Sikhs to alter bani or remove or add any bani, then why would he himself not follow it? My point is not bounding Guru sahib to a code of conduct but this act, even thinking of doing this is a Paap which Guru sahib wouldn't do.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

1. What was the reason guru sahib removed the pauri? Can you also give the source of the saakhi? 
2. Guru Nanak Dev Ji sung bani as he received it from Sachkhand. As he received the bani He would sing it and give updesh to sangat. So my point is that bani is already perfect. There's no need to add or omit anything. 
3. We are no-one to decide what guru sahib can do and cannot do. He can do anything he wishes to. But this doesn't mean that if someone says that Guru sahib did this xyz thing (which is morally wrong), we believe it and say whatever he did we can't understand his plays. We shouldn't believe these manmati things because Guru Sahib is perfect and can't do anything immoral. Bani is perfect. 
4. Also, the source says that Guru Angad Dev Ji removed the pauri so that no-one can do that karamaat again in future. So, if today Udaasis have found that pauri then this means they can do that karamaat again. This would mean that Guru Angad Dev Ji couldn't successfully fulfill his objective of hiding that pauri from aam sangat. Can guru sahib failing be possible?                  Also, guru sahib must have hidden that pauri or given updesh to sangat to not read it again. Then how come Udaasis know that this pauri was part of which Baani, was written by which guru and why this pauri is not in Guru Granth Sahib? If someone finds such writings, the first thing he'll think is that it may be a kachi bani. In puratan gutke and saroop of guru sahib, people would write about their lineage and some family secrets at the end in poetic style. But Panth used its Bibek Budhi and rejected those writings.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh  

Sikhs don't require this astrologer as they read Japji Sahib everyday. Guru Gobind Singh Ji knows everything, hehe.
Trimandeep Singh 

Seriously who has the right to Alter bani? 
By saying Guru Angad Dev Ji altered original version of Japji sahib, whosoever said this is committing a great sin.
Poore ka kiya sab kichh poora Ghatt Vadh Kichh nahe 
[The works and creation of the Perfect one are all perfect like him]
This is just a manmati story by a manmat banda.
And this story is so illogical and perhaps, I thank GurU Gobind Singh Ji who did a karamaat on Vaisakhi 1699.
You say that Guru Angad Dev Ji altered the pauri so that no-one else can do the karamaat of making the dead alive done by reading that pauri. 
On Vaisakhi 1699 Guru Gobind Singh Ji cut off the heads of 5 devoted people and then recited 5 banis while stirring is khanda in a baata full of water and pataase. Then he sprinkled a few drops of that Amrit on the bodies of the dead men and put it in their mouth and they became alive! 
Guru Khalsa Panth knows that procedure and can still make a dead person alive with that amrit provided that there are Rehitvaan Naam Rasiye Gurmukhs in Panj Pyaare.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
Daas is pained to see that in today's modern world, RSS and other anti Sikh organizations have been successfully able to popularize anti gurmat opinions among Khalsa Panth and Guru Nanak Naam Leva Sangat.
Multiple times these anti Sikh organizations have been identified as doing fake propaganda in the name of supporting and celebrating Sikhi.
On the Gurupurab of Dhan Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji, RSS declared that it will too celebrate the Holy auspicious event. And with no surprise, at the large stage RSS leader openly quoted the Shabad 
'Deh Shiva Bar Mohe Ehai' and said Guru Gobind Singh Ji is asking for a boon to Shiva.
Not only this but Shiv Sena extremists tried to file a case against Sikh community to bring up a law that Sikhs should be allowed to wear only a 4-6 inch Kirpan. The list is endless.
One such opinion that has been popularly spread in the panth is that Guru Gobind Singh Ji had 3 wives.
Daas respects Mahakavi Santokh Singh Ji alot and we can't thank him enough to collect the saakhis of unbelievable karamaats of guru sahibaan. However, it must be noted that the Granth also contains some saakhis which attack the Ucha character of Guru Sahib like doing jhatka on Vaisakhi, Mai Bhago stories, Devi Pooja etc.
The following has been taken from another forum. The post is of a very knowledgeable Rehitvaan Gursikh Bhai Sahib Kulbir Singh Toronto who along with other gursikhs is doing excellent parchar of Sikhi through GURMAT BIBEK CHANNEL on YouTube.
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History collected by Mahakavi Santokh Singh jee in Sooraj Prakash has not been refined by Mahakavi jee. He went from village to village and recorded whatever he heard from senior citizens of that time. He did not try to verify or authenticate what he heard and just wrote whatever he heard. We are grateful to him for not judging what he heard and just writing it. I think his function was not writing history but collecting all information possible from people, including local traditions.
The Saakhi of 7 marriages of Siri Guru Har Rai Sahib jee is totally absurd. The only Mehal Guru Sahib had was Mata Kishan Kaur jee. Similarly, the Saakhi of 3 marriages of Siri Guru Hargobind Sahib jee too should be taken with a grain of salt. Not that it makes a difference, even if it was true, because worldly rules don't apply on Guru Sahib but still it is highly unlikely, that Guru Sahib had 3 Mehals. Same is true for Siri Guru Gobind Singh jee. Mata jeeto jee and Mata Sundari jee was probably the same person with Mata Jeeto jee being her name in her parent's home and Mata Sundari jee was the name given by her in-laws. And Mata Sahib Kaur was not a Mehal of Guru Sahib in worldly sense.
Guru Sahib knows better.
Kulbir Singh
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Daas would also like to add something. We shouldn't forget that Guru Sahib were perfect and would never do anything against Gurmat Principles. EK NAARI JATI HOYE is a key principle of a Sikh's Grihast Jeevan. Moreover, Guru Sahib always practiced what he preached, not like today's modern day Sikh parcharaks. 
ਔਰਨਕਹਾਉਪਦੇਸਤਹੈਪਸੁਤੋਹਿਪ੍ਰਬੋਧਨਲਾਗੋ॥
O Animal! why do you preach to others, when you are quite ignorant on what you are preaching? 
Guru Sahib would always practice what he preached. He was a true Sant Sipahi and set an example that what a Sikh can do if he follows Rehat and reads bani and japs naam. 

May Guru Sahib bless us all with Bibek Budhi and Prem for Bani 
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai saab jee, please keep discussing. It is good to have spiritual intellectual discussions. That is the PURPOSE of the forum. IMHO, we haven't been disrespectful to each other. Anyways, Daas apologizes, if anyone was offended by me.
Hopefully, the Root Admin will move these off-topic posts to a new thread soon.
@sarabatam
 
Bhul chuk maaf

Seriously who has the right to Alter bani? 
By saying Guru Angad Dev Ji altered original version of Japji sahib, whosoever said this is committing a great sin.
Poore ka kiya sab kichh poora Ghatt Vadh Kichh nahe 
[The works and creation of the Perfect one are all perfect like him]
This is just a manmati story by a manmat banda.
And this story is so illogical and perhaps, I thank GurU Gobind Singh Ji who did a karamaat on Vaisakhi 1699.
You say that Guru Angad Dev Ji altered the pauri so that no-one else can do the karamaat of making the dead alive done by reading that pauri. 
On Vaisakhi 1699 Guru Gobind Singh Ji cut off the heads of 5 devoted people and then recited 5 banis while stirring is khanda in a baata full of water and pataase. Then he sprinkled a few drops of that Amrit on the bodies of the dead men and put it in their mouth and they became alive! 
Guru Khalsa Panth knows that procedure and can still make a dead person alive with that amrit provided that there are Rehitvaan Naam Rasiye Gurmukhs in Panj Pyaare.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Yes you are right one doesn't Need to be a Sikh to sing Gurbani. Everyone has a right to praise Vaheguru and everyone should have access to truth. However, only those who adopted Gurbani as their SATGURU (Sikhs) will be liberated.
Trimandeep Singh

Bhai sahib, 
First of all, the purpose of all human beings is to get a place in Sachkhand. One who gets place in Sachkhand, means he has been liberated.
If a non Sikh can reach Sachkhand then you are saying that one can get liberation and reach Vaheguru WITHOUT Guru Nanak Dev Ji. The purpose of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was to reveal the Satnaam in Kalyug and liberate people. If people were already being liberated and would have gone to Sachkhand without adopting Guru sahib as Guru then Guru Nanak Dev Ji wouldn't even have come in the first place because liberation is the ultimate goal of human life. That is the most precious joon because only humans can do bhagti to attain liberation.
In Bachittar Natak, Guru Gobind Singh Ji writes his conversation with Akaal Purakh. Akaal Purakh Ji says that he sent so many avatars and mahapurush like Shiv Ji, Krishna Ji, Brahma Ji, Vishnu Ji, Gautama Budhha, Muhammad, and so many countless prophets to spread the truth but they got overpowered by ego and instead asked people to worship themselves instead of Vaheguru. Akaal Purakh Ji said to Guru Gobind Singh Ji to take birth in Kalyug and spread the right dharma; which means that before his prakash, the whole world was worshipping someone who was not God. 
All non Sikhs obviously worship the creation of God. Before guru Nanak Dev Ji, there was no absolute truth revealed which means that all those who didn't follow the dharma of Guru Nanak weren't liberated.
Those who get liberated don't require anything else. They have got everything. But Guru Nanak Dev Ji had to come because the people before him must be lacking something. They may not have something. What was that? Naam.
And if you still say that non Sikhs who don't worship the true God get a place in Sachkhand, which means they got liberation then what extra do those people get who actually worshipped the true God, ie, Akaal Purakh? Do they get to sit more near to Vaheguru? Since you have mentioned Guru Nanak Dev Ji as the Greatest Master so the people who adopted him as their guru must have received something more than those who adopted other gurus (inferior to Guru Nanak), right? 
When you say that Sikhism says that Sikhs don't have exclusivity to Sachkhand, then please give any evidence from Gurbani. (I know you will not be able to find since it doesn't even exist.)
You need to know Gurmat Karam Philosophy to understand this concept. Gurmat doesn't say that if you don't worship God, you will have to live in eternal hell, like Christianity and Islam. Gurmat says you will land up near those whom you worship.
Even Gurbani says that those who worship the devi (Hindu goddesses)  they become a woman in their next life. Those who worship Shiv Ji, they will land in Shiv Puri, those who worship Krishna Ji, they will land up in Baikunth, those who worship Allah, they will land up in Jannat, those who worship Budhaa, they will land up in Nirvana and those who worship the True creator, they land up in Sachkhand, the highest heaven of all. Shiv Puri, Baikunth, Jannat, Nirvana, all of these are heavens are in Giaan Khand and people who land up here enjoy various kind of pleasures but only temporarily. Then they again take birth because they are not liberated. People live in Sachkhand permanently.
Guru sahib also gives his orders in Rehatnamey that a Khalsa shouldn't eat from hands of non Sikhs. This is because only Khalsa is purest of the pure. Non Sikhs may keep themselves physical hygienic but without naam, they cannot wash their minds completely. Gurbani says, 
ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕੋ ਬੋਲੀ ਬਿਖੁ ਲਾਦੀ ਸਿਰਿ ਭਾਰਾ
Without Naam, the mortal has no friend and carries loads of sins on his head 
 
If a mortal has so many loads of sins then how do you expect non Sikhs who haven't even received naam from Satguru, get liberated. They can't even wash away their sins.
For non Sikhs who haven't received naam, Gurbani says 
Gurmukh Laaha Lai Gaye Manmukh Challe mool gavaaiye jeeo 
(The gurmukhs reap profits and reach Vaheguru whereas the Manmukhs depart and regret.)
And Gurbani also defines who gurmukh is. One who follows the teachings of the True Guru, Guru Nanak is called a Gurmukh.
And respected Bhai sahib, if you still don't agree with me, then I would just request you to tell me the purpose of coming of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and how can one be liberated without getting naam which is given by Satguru Ji 
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib Ji,  the furmaan, 
"Nanak Brahmgyami Aap parmeshur" has been wrongly interpreted by you. In this ashtpadhi Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji mentions that only Akaal Purakh, Satguru and High Avastha Gursikhs are brahmgyamis which also verifies my point in previous post that non Sikhs can't attain brahmgyami avastha. 
Coming to your point, the gur furmaan, "Nanak Brahmgyami aap Parmeshur" doesn't mean that Brahmgyani becomes Akaal Purakh but this means that Akaal Purakh is also brahmgyami. This doesn't imply that Akaal Purakh is only a brahmgyami and hence his glory is same as that of brahmgyami gurmukhs. Brahmgyami means one who realizes jot of Vaheguru in himself. As Akaal Purakh knows himself, so he is a brahmgyami and same with Satguru Ji.
Now, refuting your logic. Guru sahib also writes,
"Brahmgyami sab shrist ka karta"
Does this mean that Baba Deep Singh Ji or Bhai Gurdaas Ji or any other Brahmgyami created this creation? Obviously No. This vaak means that Brahmgyami is the one who created this whole creation- Akaal Purakh.
You are right in saying that Vaheguru acts through his gursikhs and mahapurush.
Guru Gobind Singh Ji in chandi di Vaar writes that you gave power to Raam to kill the evil Ravan with his bow, you gave power to durga to kill the mighty demons, you gave Krishna the power to knock out Kansa holding his hairs and you created the demons to break the ego of demi gods.
Also he sends gursikhs on earth like Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwaale for chardikala of Panth but that doesn't mean that his brahmgyani gursikhs start giving naam to anyone. A brahmgyami gursikh can never go against guru sahib's will to give naam to anyone. Guru Gobind Singh Ji works through Panj pyaare in Amrit Sanchaar. But this doesn't mean that the Panj Pyaare are Vaheguru himself or they are the ones giving naam. A brahmgyami purush when himself worships someone else(Vaheguru) then why would he make himself guru of someone. Naam is only given by Satguru Ji not through a brahmgyani.
When Gurbani says that there is no difference between a brahmgyami and Vaheguru that means they have become one with Vaheguru. They show us a reflection of Vaheguru. But this doesn't mean that we start worshipping brahmgyamis because there is no difference between them. This 'difference' is in the context that they have merged back into Vaheguru and hence no difference. 
When we say there is no difference between Guru Nanak and Vaheguru, this means that Vaheguru's jot is in him. Vaheguru's sargun roop is Guru Nanak. But we will merge back into nirgun roop Vaheguru only. Yes you can say that Guru sahib is omnipresent but guru sahib is just a from in which Akaal Purakh manifests himself. Akaal Purakh in pargat roop is guru Nanak. And we can have darshan of Guru Nanak Dev Ji but we can only experience Vaheguru. We can't see Vaheguru in his nirgun roop because he is FORMLESS.
Please see this video and all your doubts will be cleared.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh

Bhai sahib ji, I humbly ask you to please quote any of my point that you found wrong or manmat. I would request you to continue to debate on this but in a healthy manner. I would like to know your pakh (point) also. 
Guru sahib kirpa karan
Trimandeep Singh

sakar roop of guru sahib as in keeping a photo in front? If this is what you are saying, then I would not recommend this. Having a photo of guru sahib while japping naam helps a lot but in short run only. A very experienced naam abhiyasi gurmukh Bhai Raghbir Singh Bir writes when he reached a higher avastha, he couldn't focus on meditating on the nirgun roop of vaheguru. 
May guru sahib bless you consistent amrit vela, strength to fight sleep and remain steadfast when maaya attacks you. If you continue to read lots of bani, you'll surely have a divine experience when you receive khande baate di pahaul.
guru rakha
Trimandeep Singh
Trimandeep Singh

Yes, Amrit resides inside us. But we can drink it from inside only when we become a Sikh of guru, do Amrit Vela, do lots of naam abhyaas and Gurbani abhyaas and then finally, Amrit trickles down and gurmukh tastes it. I don't have much knowledge. You can read books of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji- Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar and Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamayee.
If you read these two books, you'll get a clear understanding.
Maafi ji
Trimandeep Singh 

Guest Shaheed Ji, one thing concerns me. You asked if it is okay to take Amrit from a jatha who has a little different Rehat than that you want to follow. From experience of gursikhs, I would say that whatever Rehat that the Panj Pyaare commanded you to keep, you should accept it as sat bachan, even if it doesn't fall in line with the Maryada you want to follow.
Eg: At AKJ, they tell you Keski as a Kakkar in place of kesh. So, suppose you are more inclined towards taksaal then you would believe Kesh as a Kakaar. But still you would have to follow Rehat given by Panj no matter what. You can't separate keski from your body just like a Kirpan.
I didn't want to touch any jathebandi differences here. I was just concerned if you follow something slightly different than what Panj instructed you at Amrit Sanchaar.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib Ji, I would suggest you follow Soulfinder's advice. Please keep these things a secret. You can ask about these things to any kamai waala gurmukh you know. 
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib Ji,  the furmaan, 
"Nanak Brahmgyami Aap parmeshur" has been wrongly interpreted by you. In this ashtpadhi Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji mentions that only Akaal Purakh, Satguru and High Avastha Gursikhs are brahmgyamis which also verifies my point in previous post that non Sikhs can't attain brahmgyami avastha. 
Coming to your point, the gur furmaan, "Nanak Brahmgyami aap Parmeshur" doesn't mean that Brahmgyani becomes Akaal Purakh but this means that Akaal Purakh is also brahmgyami. This doesn't imply that Akaal Purakh is only a brahmgyami and hence his glory is same as that of brahmgyami gurmukhs. Brahmgyami means one who realizes jot of Vaheguru in himself. As Akaal Purakh knows himself, so he is a brahmgyami and same with Satguru Ji.
Now, refuting your logic. Guru sahib also writes,
"Brahmgyami sab shrist ka karta"
Does this mean that Baba Deep Singh Ji or Bhai Gurdaas Ji or any other Brahmgyami created this creation? Obviously No. This vaak means that Brahmgyami is the one who created this whole creation- Akaal Purakh.
You are right in saying that Vaheguru acts through his gursikhs and mahapurush.
Guru Gobind Singh Ji in chandi di Vaar writes that you gave power to Raam to kill the evil Ravan with his bow, you gave power to durga to kill the mighty demons, you gave Krishna the power to knock out Kansa holding his hairs and you created the demons to break the ego of demi gods.
Also he sends gursikhs on earth like Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwaale for chardikala of Panth but that doesn't mean that his brahmgyani gursikhs start giving naam to anyone. A brahmgyami gursikh can never go against guru sahib's will to give naam to anyone. Guru Gobind Singh Ji works through Panj pyaare in Amrit Sanchaar. But this doesn't mean that the Panj Pyaare are Vaheguru himself or they are the ones giving naam. A brahmgyami purush when himself worships someone else(Vaheguru) then why would he make himself guru of someone. Naam is only given by Satguru Ji not through a brahmgyani.
When Gurbani says that there is no difference between a brahmgyami and Vaheguru that means they have become one with Vaheguru. They show us a reflection of Vaheguru. But this doesn't mean that we start worshipping brahmgyamis because there is no difference between them. This 'difference' is in the context that they have merged back into Vaheguru and hence no difference. 
When we say there is no difference between Guru Nanak and Vaheguru, this means that Vaheguru's jot is in him. Vaheguru's sargun roop is Guru Nanak. But we will merge back into nirgun roop Vaheguru only. Yes you can say that Guru sahib is omnipresent but guru sahib is just a from in which Akaal Purakh manifests himself. Akaal Purakh in pargat roop is guru Nanak. And we can have darshan of Guru Nanak Dev Ji but we can only experience Vaheguru. We can't see Vaheguru in his nirgun roop because he is FORMLESS.
Please see this video and all your doubts will be cleared.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh

Bhai sahib Ji, I would suggest you follow Soulfinder's advice. Please keep these things a secret. You can ask about these things to any kamai waala gurmukh you know. 
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa 
Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh!
'Soulfinder' and 'WaheguruDaGulam' veerji, thank you for your replies. I live in Delhi, India. I have recently started exploring Sikhi (4-5 months) and I don't know any particular rehitvaan gursikhs near me. Before the recent lockdown in Delhi due to rising covid cases, me and my father used to go to Gurudwara Nanak Piao Sahib every week to attend a weekly Samagam. Some AKJ gursikhs also used to come but otherwise, I don't know much about it. My Mamaji (Father's maternal uncle) knows many AKJ gursikhs and he often does Kirtan at AKJ Samagams. His name is Bhai Hardeep Singh Ji. He is also a very chardikala gursikh and many people love to do sangat with him(including me and my father). Once me and my family went to their house and my grandfather touched the topic that I don't want guru sahib's prakash at home. Mamaji and his wife(my mamiji) instantly said that first I need to make my jeevan ucha sucha and then come to these things. They said that if there is no prakash at home then my family's connection will break away from Gurbani. At that time I had so many points to say that my family has no chao/utsah to do Sewa of guru sahib. I wanted to say that the thing that worries my family is their sehaj path, then they can do it with Senchiaan. But, what can a manmukh say in front of gursikhs?! I just kept listening to them and couldn't say a word. At another event, this topic was again touched when we visited them. This time, another chardikala gursikh was at their house. You all may know him. His name is Bhai Charanjeet Singh UK, but now living in Calgary, Canada. He often does Kirtan with Bhai Jagpal Singh Ji at AKJ. This time the topic of Larivaar saroop was touched. My Mamaji and Bhai Charanjeet Singh Ji though are Singhs with ucha jeevan but they don't read bani from Larivaar saroop. I strongly think it is because of lack of parchaar. If they come to know the truth of pad shed, they would switch to Larivaar. But again I couldn't say anything. Manmukhs are nothing in front of gurmukhs and I don't know why I just get blank when doing vichar with gursikhs. I just don't know and I am also guilty that I couldn't even tell them a single thing about pad shed. Anyways, my point is that having talks with the gursikhs I know didnt benefit much. I don't know what will happen. And even if some gursikhs come and persuade my family, after they go, my family will only say- "these people are rigid and conservative. Don't become a baba like them.", "these people go very deep. We need to live in this society also, we can't do such things." and all sorts of other illogical things. 
Okay let me stop. 
BTW, other gursikhs please answer my questions, the specific ones. May guru sahib do kirpa.
Bhul chuk maaf sangat Ji.
Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa 
Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh!

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
A humble request of Daas to Elder gursikhs on the forum to clear my doubts regarding the prakash of guru sahib at my home.
NECESSARY CONTEXT
I live in India. My father is the only gursikh in my family. My father, mother, grandmother and I do Nitnem everyday but other members are not much into Sikhi. My family is planning to shift within a year or too and we have made a separate room for guru sahib's prakash. I would like know your opinions on the following-
1) We'll live on the third floor and right now, as per my knowledge, the families who will be living on first, second and fourth floors are Sikhs. However, I am not sure about this. If any manmukhi family starts living on any of the floor and brings meat and alcohol in their homes, so would it lead to beadbi? It's actually not in our hands to choose the new families.
2) We have the fourth floor(for residence) and terrace above our floor(third one) and as it is, people would walk on the floor above guru sahib's prakash room. So does it lead to beadbi? 
3) Can we make storage spaces under Sukhasan bed for rumaale and bastars(clothes) of guru sahib.
4) Should the height of pida sahib (where guru sahib is virajmaan) and sukhasan bed be higher than our beds
5) Is degh to be prepared everyday?
6) Light clothes in summer and warm clothes in winter for Guru sahib? Heard this is to be followed but Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji didn't agree with this.
7) Guru Sahib bastars to be changed everyday?
 Is room cleaning once a week fine or everyday? 
9) What to do in case noone to do prakash of guru sahib or whole family not at home for 2-3 days? 

*******These are questions in case all other protocols are followed by my family********
5) Noone in my family knows how to do prakash except my grandmother. Though she loves reading bani and Kirtan but doesn't focus much on Rehat. She does colour her hair, prepares chicken for other family members but doesn't eat, no Amrit Vela, no keski/dastaar. However, she does Nitnem daily. Also, I am too not an amritdhari gursikh but I am trying to follow Rehat as much as I can like having Dastaar all the time, Nitnem, Larivaar Pehra, not eating anything from outside but still eat from hands of non amritdharis (slowly working on it, trying to learn to cook), gurmat ishnaan and necessary sucham, amritvela dhill sometimes etc etc. But, obviously I am not a Sikh right now. Can we manmukhs do prakash Sewa? 
6) Only me and my father are really worried about keeping full satkaar of guru sahib and my family doesn't care much about it. Yes, but still they want. I don't want them to watch films and serials in the lobby near prakash room but I don't think they'll listen. Actually, my father is the only gursikh in my family. Noone cares much and is not willing to sacrifice anything for satkaar of guru sahib.
They even don't mind bringing meat home. They don't mind shouting and abusing people on the phone when they are completely audible in the prakash room. Noone wears Dastaar except me and my father. Males come with a small cloth on their head and females with a chunni. I seriously don't want guru sahib to come at home because I know we would only do their apmaan (disrespect) but noone cares to listen to this 16 year old kid. My father too doesn't say much to my grandparents and others when they advocate for something wrong. Anyways, I am trying my best to convince them to have senchiaan but Vaheguru knows what will happen.
7) I personally would want to take hukamnaama and do sehaj Paath from Larivaar saroop only but don't have it virajmaan right now. I have persuaded by grandmother, father and mother to take hukamnaama and do sehaj Paath after having full gurmat ishnaan (including Kes). However, they paid a deaf ear to it. Does this lead to serious beadbi ?
7) I am strictly in favor of Larivaar Saroop of Maharaj and I have encouraged my parents and grandmother to read banis in Larivaar only and with Guru Sahib's kirpa they have started. I clearly said that if we are all able to develop skills then we would have Larivaar saroop only. But, I don't think they'll let it happen.
Daas humbly apologizes at the feet of gursikhs for any mistakes. I am fully devoted towards keeping satkaar of guru sahib and would like to know your opinions. Also, please give me some tips how can I convince my family to not have prakash at home. Already had 3-4 long talks with them where noone had any answer of the wrongs and disrespect they did. But still they take it off by saying 'we'll see'. May guru sahib do kirpa.
Bhul chuk di maafi
Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa 
Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

 

Yes, Amrit resides inside us. But we can drink it from inside only when we become a Sikh of guru, do Amrit Vela, do lots of naam abhyaas and Gurbani abhyaas and then finally, Amrit trickles down and gurmukh tastes it. I don't have much knowledge. You can read books of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji- Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar and Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamayee.
If you read these two books, you'll get a clear understanding.
Maafi ji
Trimandeep Singh