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Aatma is not Vaheguru please back up with Gurbani we aren't shankacharya followers.

c) those who have tasted the bliss of Guru Maharaj and no longer understand why anyone who also has been given the oppurtunity to enjoy Guru Ji would find such enjoyment in anything else. You too are a fanatic of sort.

disgraceful.

'Xylitol's' post in that thread is closest to the truth. Our self is definetly not annihalted as in Jap Ji Sahib it talks about God's court and how Gursikhs sit in it. Just because the soul is merged completely with God it doesn't mean you don't exist anymore. http://ikonkaar.blogspot.com/2006/01/khands.html

No need for preachers. Who Guru Sahib wants as his shagird, Guru Sahib calls to him. Those people who have left, that's maharaj da hukam, I very much doubt they were actual sikhs in the first place anyway.

Nahin ji, not what i was saying (in this topic anyway). Regardless of whether or not the others can achieve mukti, once we have sold ourselves to Guru Sahib there is no other place to go. If someone wishes to partake in the methods of other paths then they can go join that one.

oooohhh rebel. /sarcasm Gurfateh is not my hukam dear its Guroo Maharaj's, doesn't hurt me if you wish to actively go against it! ਨਾਥੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਜਾਚਹਿ ਲਾਜ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥੨॥ Nāth cẖẖod jācẖeh lāj na āvai. ||2|| Abandoning your Lord Master, you beg from others; you should feel ashamed. ||2||

wow right oh my

Incase you forgot the khalsa greeting as commanded by dasam pathsha is Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh All things you could possibly want are contained within naam. There is no need to go to other places.

Out of interest how come what appear to be hindu sadhus are on stage doing veechar alongside sikh babae? One would think the content would be different.

the kes had previously vibrated on naam (when doing abhiyaas), so it must be given saskar respectfully.

Mr. Fateh, if someone took Jagjita into a car and drove him to a night club, what would namdhari panth do?

vah vah vah vah vah akhan de vich panee agyaa

In Search of the True Guru by Bhai Sahib Bhai Rama Singh Ji (or Panjabi version- Roop Gobind Ka Raj Khalse Ka Sikha Sonne Ka) the book is LIFE CHANGING and very simple to follow. check this out http://www.sikhnation.com/cms/index.php?op...1&Itemid=31 anything by bhai sahib bhai randhir singh ji,eg. bhai sahib's autobiography, unditti duniya (the unseen world)- about afterlife, unseen things in the world etc.

well you were hardly likely to understand thier seva,mr.fateh.

lol and you guys all b*tching over here is proving how much better this site is?

well the story does go 10 lives, so it seems hes starting from pretty much scratch.

what do you hope to achieve on finding the answer to this question?

that shabad is not about vishnu well done for insulting vaheguru

Your Guru Sahib does not provide for you completley? You must go to other places? No, Guru Sahib is POORA so let me break it down for you if its not from your Guru its maya ask guru ji why we don't like maya.

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LOLLLLLL an old geezer wanting to be the Guru HAHAHAAHAHAAHA, thats the funniest thing I've heard in my life! Love how you guys act all humble when definding your "religion" and say oh, but look we preserve Guru Ji's maryada, whats the problem with sikhs learning? you won't have any defence any more? ahh boohoo.

As a "sikh" this guy had it all wrong in the first place. Good example of what happens if you take a purely intellectual view with spiritual matters.

thanks for the reply and vid. So you think that not all of Niddar Singh's art is the real vidiya hmmm Thats really strange that their wouldn't be a similarity of technique within the dals, would have thought that they would have preserved it :!: this is really starting to get disheartening, its a shame to see 50% of our heritage is just washing away like this, and quite disrespectfully, what with ustaads mixing up chinese martial arts with it.

This is an honest question, free of any malicious intent. Basically I am pretty disillusioned with gatka as most of these akharas teach, was just wondering is it only Niddar Singh who teaches the true Shastar Vidiya in england? Also do all Nihang dals in india do it the same way, would they be willing to teach me the Guru's full martial art (kirpa naal daas is in sikhi saroop, dumalla etc)? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...bjCDA&hl=eN in that video, the unarmed was seriously IMPRESSIVE, but the talwar stuff was basically what I was taught when I used to do gatka. I'm not attacking it, just asking.