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Just posting this up to make it easier for sikhs to find out about how we are meant to celebrate Navratri and Dusshera. There is actually something similar for Diwali as well where Dasvin 10th Patshah actually uses the word 'Diwali'! Hopefully I will find it before Diwali.   https://www.facebook.com/652447751445011/photos/navratri-and-dushera-are-days-to-do-shastra-puja-the-nine-nights-of-naurate-star/995158367173946/  

Just posting this up to make it easier for sikhs to find out about how we are meant to celebrate Navratri and Dusshera. There is actually something similar for Diwali as well where Dasvin 10th Patshah actually uses the word 'Diwali'! Hopefully I will find it before Diwali.   https://www.facebook.com/652447751445011/photos/navratri-and-dushera-are-days-to-do-shastra-puja-the-nine-nights-of-naurate-star/995158367173946/  

With regards to Halal Meat.
Previous post was getting long, but here is Guru Nanak mentioning about Brahmins eating Halal or abhakhiya ka Khutta in Asa Di Vaar. Ang 471
 
 

You need to look at this shabad in Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ang page 1289
I will highlight some parts where Guru Nanak shows that Purana and Kiteb (abrahamic texts Bible/Quran/Torah etc) allow meat!
This is the start of the shabad page 1289
Next, Guru ji explains about the devte eating Rhinoceros regularly.
 
 
 
 
Here is where Guru ji mentions Meat in Purans and Kitebs.
 

Since the Covid-19 epidemic started multiple studies have repeatedly shown a link to Vitamin D deficiency yet when Matt Hancock was asked about it he WRONGLY said a British study had found the opposite. Is he ignorant or incompetent?
Mr Hancock claimed Government experts ran unsuccessful trials of vitamin D But officials since admitted this wasn't true and claim health secretary misspoke MPs and experts today fumed Mr Hancock 'needed to get his facts straight'  Experts have for months been calling for ministers to look into vitamin's effect  
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8793235/Matt-Hancock-wrongly-claims-vitamin-D-doesnt-work-Covid-19.html

Hi all. Wanted to bump this thread again and bring everyone news of a dismaying situation in Lahore, with the ShaheedGanj of Bhai Taru Singh being taken over by Barelvi muslims. Some years ago, a sect of muslims took over this Gurdwara and painted one of the domes green, although it has been repainted white.
This article mentions the same guy behind the recent attempt on 26th July, Sohail Butt. He is the same guy who made the video on the 26th threatening Sikhs in Pakistan.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070827/main8.htm
 

Definitely look at redesigning the layout.
I think the button links on the top that include Nanak Naam and sikhi in snippets, they need to stand out a bit more - maybe change the colours of the buttons slightly so they are more visible.
Also the number of sections or Forums could be overwhelming for some, so maybe make this front section more compact so they can be viewed more easily.
Also when we are scrolling through a thread, I think we can make this section more compact. Although being wide allows more information per line, I really think it will be a good idea to compact the comment section, it will look more clean instead of long lines going across. Also will allow it to be easier to scroll down the page, and just allows easier reading.
 
People will be using smartphones more to access content these days, especially the youth and also sikhs in India, so it is very important to look at the mobile interface.
So I looked at the mobile layout.As soon as I scroll down to Forums section the colours are very light so makes it difficult for anything to stand out. The colours and font are different to the desktop site, that is why it doesn't stand out as much.
Still in mobile layout, I think the font in threads is too faint. I was looking at websites like Facebook and Reddit to see how the fonts are more readable on mobile, so maybe use some similar fonts to those.
 
Also, I think it's a very good idea to have a mobile app for the site, it can just be a wrapper which allows you to view the site inside a browser in the app. Anyone could probably do this actually.
 
Also I think we need a way to share topics and threads to social media like Facebook, Twitter and Reddit, by having a button available. Also for the pictures section a way to maybe share to Instagram and other social media.
 
 
 

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/india-to-provide-shelter-to-700-afghan-sikhs-hindus-who-faced-terror-threats-in-home-nation
 
 

Muslim stalker murders Sikh girl in front of parents, days before her wedding: Ghaziabad
https://www.hindupost.in/news/muslim-stalker-murders-sikh-girl-in-front-of-parents-days-before-her-wedding-ghaziabad/?amp
 
Sadly many Sikh's now these days think that Muslims are poor oppressed people in India while the reality is muslim guys are one worst culprits in crime against women and many of their victims are non muslim girls of all religions. Is this the sign of an oppressed community.

I'm not in Cali, I'm a Londoner 🤣

that resentment shouldn't be there, the sacrifices should benefit everyone. Just as sikhs sacrificed in the past.
 
The copycat slogans make them more recognisable. I remember muslims used to use #FreePalestine and we could easily use something like #FreePunjab
Although we could come up with our own like #sikhs4justuce or #sikhs1984

@KIRNY25 did you even visit the forum after posting?
 
I just don't understand why it's hard for sikh women to keep their hair, when just a few decades ago most sikh women did keep their hair even if they were married to mona men. Actually a few decades ago, most sikh families saw it as freaky for women to cut their hair.

Cool. Hope you're well and safe. 

the west sides, just outside the desi areas.

Anti Conversion Series
Basics of Sikhi
New Playlist that started January 2015 - Arming our youth with Knowledge against Preachers of other faiths.
 
 

Thats a really good idea veer ji as it is hard to get access to the saakhis from suraj parkash as its written in brij language which is not easy to understand when read as i have had experience with brij when i read chandi chirtars 1&2 as they are really hard to pronounce and say.
 
Door to door of anything is not safe especially being a salesman which is the worst job lol.

Its really screwed up how you have had to deal with this veer ji and how hard it is to find the right sangat in uni groups.

The climbing atop of five Nihang Sikhs on the demolished Mangu Mutt structure at Puri on January 2nd, 2020 caused ripples in the administration. The 2nd January is the birth anniversary of the tenth Sikh Guru, Gobind Singh Ji, which is celebrated with fervor by Sikhs. The Nihangs climbed atop the demolished rooms of the Mutt and retrieved the emblem of Sikhism, the Khanda, from the debris.  The Khanda, a double edged sword, is the military emblem of the Sikhs. It is also part of the design of the Nishan Sahib, and is installed on the top  as an ornament or finial. The finding of the Khanda in the ruins was proof enough that the Mangu Mutt was once a Sikh Gurudwara.  After much cajoling and coaxing , the Nihangs were made to come down and were packed off to Bhubaneswar.
 
The Mutt, an abiding symbol of the connection between Sikhism and the 12th century Jagannath Temple, is built on the spot where Guru Nanak, during a visit in 1506, had composed the Sikh Aarti. The Aarti is essentially Guru Nanak’s tribute to the grandeur of the Creator, whose glory, he said in the spontaneous composition, could not be expressed through any human offerings or oblations.  The Mutt was located in front of the Singha Dwar, the main entrance and was within the 75-meter perimeter of the temple’s boundary wall which was slated for clearance.
It was a sad day in the lives of conservationist-historian Anil Dhir and lawyer-activist Sukhvinder Kaur of the High Court of Orissa as they watched the demolition of the Mangu Mutt. The five-month-long determined battle for the preservation of the Mutt by Dhir and Kaur literally came to a grinding halt in the second week of December as the government’s demolition machinery swung into action. On their part, the duo left no stone unturned in averting the disaster. They knocked on every door possible: they appealed to the Prime Minister, the Chief Minister of Odisha, the State Governor, the Collector of Puri, the Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee (SGPC),  the chief minister of Punjab and the Odisha Sikh leadership. In September, after the intervention of the Punjab Chief Minister, the demolition order was temporarily withdrawn.
The Odisha cabinet on 16th August 2019 approved a proposal to clear structures within 75-metre radius of Jagannath Temple, Puri to facilitate free movement of pilgrims, visitors and ensure safety of the 12th century shrine.  The district administration demolished the Languli Mutt, a 14th century Hindu monastery of Dasanami Naga sampradaya, citing safety reasons,  demolished the 12th century Emar Math and now demolished Sikh Gurudwara Mangu Mutt. 
The  Mutt has tremendous historical and spiritual value, and nobody knows it better than Dhir. Having written a two-volume book based on a 18-day  Bullock Cart  journey from Kolkata to Puri, Dhir discovered precious pieces of heritage  in  every place touched by Nanak and the other icons of the Bhakti movement, including Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Kabir and Namdev. In the middle of October, Dhir had entranced a 150-strong audience at New Delhi’s India International Centre (IIC) with a slide-supported presentation on his book, ‘Jagannath Sadak’, which was sponsored by the Indian National Trust for Art and Cultural Heritage (INTACH), and was seven years in the writing.
 
Ignoring the unbroken campaign for its conservation, in one heartless order, the Odisha government destroyed 12000 sq ft of the Mutt; now, only a 10×9 sq ft area of the original place remains, besides two half broken rooms. . In terms of size, an area worth a two bedroom flat, is not even a dot on the government property map but it is priceless in terms of heritage; any government worth its name is expected to safeguard it, if not on its own, at least, in response to the appeals of those who have no personal stakes in the issue. It is the disregard for such selfless appeals for conservation that makes the Odisha government’s action tragic.
Mangu Mutt was built more than a century after Nanak’s visit to Puri. Guru Teg Bahadur, the ninth Sikh guru, popularly known as “Hind ki Chadar”, also visited the  Mutt in 1670. Besides, the shrine served as a Dharamshala for pilgrims from all over and, from the middle of the 19th century, when India began its fight for independence from the British colonial rule, it sheltered many a freedom fighter.  Every inch of the Mutt, therefore, pulsated with history and spiritual energy, which, by itself, could have been turned into a pilgrimage goldmine by a visionary government.
Ironically, the Mutt was demolished at a time when the Odisha  government was proposing to celebrate the 550th   Birth Anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev Ji at Puri. The celebrations were cancelled, and a small seminar was instead held at the Odisha State Archives in Bhubaneswar.  Appeals against the demolition were also made in the social media, and Sikh activists had come all the way from Canada to appeal to the authorities to stop the demolition. In September this year, Punjab chief minister Amarinder Singh wrote to his Odisha counterpart against demolishing the shrine, but all of it fell on deaf ears. The contradictory statements made by the spokespersons of the Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee and the Sikh Pratinidhi Board of Odisha did not help matters.
While the entire Sikh leadership of Punjab, cutting across party lines, opposed the demolition, the Odisha Sikh leaders toed the government’s line. They, like the state government, maintain that only the unauthorised structures around the Mutt have been erased. However, Dhir says, the shifting of the religious relics from the demolished parts proves that the original structure had been demolished, not just the commercial encroachments.
Post-demolition, a delegation of Sikh MLAs from Punjab met the Odisha chief minister and demanded that at least the demolished area be handed back to the community. They also held a protest march in Bhubaneswar in December end. However, no written assurance has been given  about the transfer of land to the Sikhs and, according to Dhir, it may be a case of too little, too late.
The activists are now pinning their hopes on an intervention petition in the Supreme Court where a case against the demolition of two other Mutts associated with Nanak’s Puri visit, Punjabi Mutt and Bauli Sahib is due for hearing on January 8th.  Dhir, however, is of the view that unless the Sikh political and religious leadership comes forward forcefully, the other two shrines could also face the Odisha government’s axe, and that conservationists may be fighting a losing battle even in court.
– By   Jagpreet   Luthra
The author is a senior journalist based in Delhi.
https://www.hindujagruti.org/news/122836.html

Just heard this on Panjab Radio this morning in the UK. There was a consultation on changing the name for Havelock Road, Southall - this is also where the famous Singh Sabha Gurdwara is situated (which you will sometimes see in media and some British TV movies and documentaries), there is also another popular Singh Sabha Gurdwara on Park Avenue in Southall - just explaining to avoid confusion. Here is an article from 2002 to show context with regards to Major-General Sir Henry Havelock and issues with the name of the street. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2003119.stm So anyway the radio station was congratulating everyone as it seems the name change has been approved! Just found some Singh Sabha Gurdwara facebook posts regarding this now:   https://www.facebook.com/sgsssouthall/posts/2646454702122065   Also on the gurdwara Facebook story https://www.facebook.com/stories/1817655594943329/UzpfSVNDOjI2NDY0NDAwNTg3OTAxOTY=/?source=story_tray   A few days ago in Bristol, a slaver trader's statue was toppled by the protestors.   Yesterday, Robert Milligan was taken off plinth in London by the Tower Hamlets Council in East London. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/sadiq-khan-orders-review-of-all-london-statues-for-slavery-links It looks like these protests about #BlackLivesMatter which erupted due to the shooting in USA are also useful for sikhs. This is already helping in pushing the case for Havelock's name to be removed from the street in Southall, whereas before no progress was made. The uk will now be looking at colonial statues and memorabilia to see what can be removed. This is important as many of the colonial related people affected sikhs in negative ways! NOTE: I know protests are going on, but as it is COVID-19 Coronavirus pandemic, please be safe and observe social distancing. There is too much crowding at these protests, and could lead to increases in cases for the virus!

how do you mean?

Well done for standing up. It's a shame that sikh student groups like BOSS even, prefer to support vegetarianism rather than take a stand against halal.

Not proper Sikh society then! 

Yes, so what I was thinking to have the sakhis in a more Gospel like form to make it more accessible.
Or since you mentioned the itihasic Granths, perhaps even if we had smalled books just containing chapters of Suraj Parkash for example. I know christian missionaries in the uk used to give out door-to-door gospels of Luke, and even in Gurmukhi. I don't think they really do this anymore. However I would not recommend this door-to-door approach in the uk.
 
In the pends we require some kind of incentive to go Gurdwara.
First we need parchariks and different types of classes to be associated in the pends to the gurdwaras.
Then there should be regular langar there where different kinds of sangat comes there, including the poor of the pend. There should be some kind of parchar or keertan hapening when langars run.
Some pends have more than enough resources to do all these activities, yet the gurdwaras are still ignored.
It's the poorer pends that require support.

some crazy demonic santa clauses in there LOL.
 
I know we have Guru Granth Sahib, but I think we need some kind of book to counteract the missionaries, or maybe we have any?
Like maybe a concise book of the Guru jis' stories and sikh shaheedis for those  people into biblical stories?!?

https://yourstory.com/socialstory/2019/09/punjab-darshan-singh-youtube-farmers-agriculture/amp