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When reading stories contained in these old granths, one should good shrewd judgment. If something written in these stories is contrary to Gurbani, then it is very likely that the story is distorted or false. When reading these old Janamsakhis of the Gurus, we find great Sakhis, but sometimes we come across such a Sakhi which is in odds with Gurmat/Gurbani, that is when critical thinking comes in and should be used.

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Bhai Sukha singh in Gur Bilas Padshahi 10 writes in Ch 10 and 16 that Guru Gobind Singh used to consume various types of intoxicants himself and gave these to others also: (these included hemp and liquor)

This is what the nihangs do drink liquor and hemp.

Is this right?

Can you please post exactly what is said in Gurmukhi by Bhai Sukha Singh regarding Guru Gobind Singh consuming alcohol and cannabis.Not just post on a forum that this book says this about this Guru etc. etc.Thank you.

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When reading stories contained in these old granths, one should good shrewd judgment. If something written in these stories is contrary to Gurbani, then it is very likely that the story is distorted or false. When reading these old Janamsakhis of the Gurus, we find great Sakhis, but sometimes we come across such a Sakhi which is in odds with Gurmat/Gurbani, that is when critical thinking comes in and should be used.

Please go by singh47 advice when going through such texts ! :idea:

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Dear Kabbadi Singh,

GurFateh ! - Please give a page reference or 'Adhiaie' chapter reference or even the context and I will try and find, then post the quote for you - It is very hard to find quotes without at least a rough idea of context or time scale.(ie at what point in Guru Ji's life) - a page ref would be ideal !

Many Thanks

On a side note - It is always wise to read sources with an open mind and look at them in context and with other contemporary sources and of course Gurbani - having said that we cannot just 'pick and choose' what we believe and 'cherry pick' ideas we like and leave or trash concepts we do not. (Unless of course you have done the required research and produce evidence for your rejection - not just - " Guru Sahib wouldn't do that" - or paranoia about Brahmins )

An example of this is- this quote from Sukha Singh GurBilas Patshahi 10

which is quoted by many - to encourage the keeping of Kesh. These same people will then attack other quotes as 'bhamin' interpolations.

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"Bina shastr kesang narang bhed jano. Gahe kaan tako kitey le sidhano.

Ehe mor agiya suno le piare. Bina Tegh Kesang divo n didare."

" Without weapons and Kesh - you are nothing but a sheep - who can be led anywhere by the ear

A order has come from the master, without un-cut hair and weapons do not come before me "

*From Gurbilas Patshahi 10 - Bhai Sukha Singh edited by Dr Gursharan Kaur Jaggi - Bhasha Vibhag , Punjab - 1989 - pg 364

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