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Brother H908 Jee,
It is  true, Maharaj knows everything and controls everything in a way, but yes, it is we humans that we misbehave under the evil influences of the mind, and for that each one has to pay for. And if f that was the case of Maharaj, why does He allow eartquakes, and other alike disasters... 
He has given us sense, he has given us "budh" to use it, we just can not keep quite and say, well as Maharaj knows everything, let it happen....
Suppose, some thieves come at your home, and threat you, your wife or parents, will you keep quiet, or will you do all possible to face them and avoid that injustice?
You see bro, we have to help as much as possible, to the weaker ones.
For example, there is a tiger in a village,  we all know that the tiger can come and eat us at any time.  Or any of our neigbours,  so what do the authorities do? They go and kill the tiger  for the safety of the people.
In a similar way, if we know who these bastards are, would it not be advisable to give them lifetime sentence .... 
When I said to gun them down, it was an allegory ....
SSA
 

I do not exactly know the answer, but I strongly feel it is in their genes, since so many centuries, mainly due to the root cause of their so called  "beleifs", this diplomatic word is used in order to avoid the correct  word for it,  which maybe strong for some, and thus create conflicts.

'Sat Sree Akal Ibrute jee,
just one thing to be kept in mind:
The efforts are in one's hand to an extent, but the clicking you mention above, is in His hands.
Our duty is just to lay at His door as kookars...it is His  "mauj" as per how or when to open. 
So my advise is never ever leave His door, even if one's life goes away in doing His bhakti.
 Our concern in this spiritual matter, is only to stay  at all times in His "bhaana"
Sat Sree Akal.

We are all here to be helpful to each other as much as possible, keeping aside our differences,  jealousies, short sightedness,  ill thinking....
Then there will be only healthy relations, we all have one goal : Waheguru.
That is it.
We should never try to impose or manipulate anyone, conscioussly  or unconscioussly, if anybody accepts our advise, is o.k;  if not, it does not matter much, for we lose nothing. But we should never ever disrespect nor thrash anybody.
I can proudly say, you are a good guy, with your behaviour, you are an example on this forum, and believe it,  it is no free propaganda.
Keep it up bro.
SSA

We are all here to be helpful to each other as much as possible, keeping aside our differences,  jealousies, short sightedness,  ill thinking....
Then there will be only healthy relations, we all have one goal : Waheguru.
That is it.
We should never try to impose or manipulate anyone, conscioussly  or unconscioussly, if anybody accepts our advise, is o.k;  if not, it does not matter much, for we lose nothing. But we should never ever disrespect nor thrash anybody.
I can proudly say, you are a good guy, with your behaviour, you are an example on this forum, and believe it,  it is no free propaganda.
Keep it up bro.
SSA

Soulfinder Jee,
brother Ragmala has given a sound reply above as seen.
Nobody can satisfy other´s hunger. If you are hungry, you have to eat and masticate the food morsels by yourself, in order to satisfy your hunger.
In that respect, waheguru has kept within all of us in same measure, the wealth of Nam, it depends on each of us, as how much dhanvaan we want to become, by gathering that true wealth of Nam within us, to which there is no limitation, nor any taxation deducted by Kal upon that income.
Sarb rog ka aukhad Nam.
Do His chintan, His bhakti, as much as possible, and all our sins shall get washed gradually, thus our suffering will start diminishing. Remember our pain, our failures, our success, or be it any other thing, is due to our own karmas; but anyhow, the all mercifull Waheguru has also given us the medicine of His holy Name to be taken as much as possible, in order to nullify all our karmas.
That is it brother, stay blessed.
SSA.

COVID 19,  seen from a Buddhist perspective
 
 
Disciple:
Master, it is so difficult for me to understand that the Father has sent us such an aggressive virus. What is the purpose?
 
Teacher:
The Father does not command it. It allows it, which is different. The pandemic was generated by man through the constant violation of universal laws.
 
Disciple:
But something so bad, is going to cause a lot of destruction.
 
Teacher:
Coronavirus is not bad. It is not good either. It is necessary, it is different. There is nothing wrong with the universe. If the coronavirus is present it is because it is allowed by Divinity, or it could not exist.
The idea of good and evil is generated in your mind that judges from its file of ignorance an event that in itself is neutral.
 
Disciple:
But so many people are being infected in the world, or are going to be left without even having anything to eat....  So many children, the elderly, men and women..... It is quite unfair.
 
Teacher:
The term unjust does not exist within universal love. That exists only in your mind that does not understand the purpose that is deep in it.
What does exist is the just, the precise, the exact, the corresponding. There is a necessary evolutionary process that consists of a constant collection of information. A learning through facing the difficulties that life presents us, so that in the midst of the chaos and suffering that is generated, we discover the principle of love that is found in life itself. And this principle of love is what will free us from human limitations, and will make us correspond with experiences of much more satisfaction and harmony.
You have to understand that nobody experiences an experience that does not correspond to him. And if it corresponds to him, he will live it, even when he struggles or resists. Coronavirus is not bad. It is very good, since many people are learning from it. The level of consciousness of the planet is rising, seeing us in the need to develop great tools of love such as acceptance, appreciation and adaptation. Patience, tolerance, and respect.
It may be a difficult test, but it is not bad. You are growing thanks to it. If you stop seeing the coronavirus from your fears, and start to see it from your understanding, you will be able to recognize the value that there is in it. So you can pass this test that life is presenting to you.
The decision is in you, and for that,  life gave you a Free Will.
You have been given the power to make decisions, and these will be respected by the entire universe. You can give a choice of fear, pride and ego.
Or you can give it to love. The choice is yours. It's on you!
What decision are you making? Did you choose fear, or love?
The decision is yours, but it will have a result, which is also yours, and you will have to assume.
If you decided on fear, you will generate destruction in your peace within, in your vital energy, in your relationships, and in your health.
If you decided for love, you will pass the test that life is presenting to you, and you will no longer need to suffer again.
Give love the option. The way is always love.
 
Disciple:
And what is giving the option to love?
 
Teacher:
- Become an imperturbable being. Invulnerable. Work on yourself, so that your peace and happiness do not depend on the external world.
- Stop seeing problems, and start seeing opportunities that you can take advantage of to do the  inner growth.
- Develop acceptance. "Everything that happens is perfect, and if it exists and happens it is because it has a purpose." "Father, may your will be done, and not mine." "Show me how I can serve you better."
- Learn to flow and adapt. Act wisely instead of reacting from fear.
- Watch your thought so that it only vibrates in the frequency of love. This will bring you clarity of mind.
- Do not share your fears with others. Share only your enthusiasm and your joy.
- Watch your words.
May your word create harmony, and make others feel confident and secure.
Difficulties are not solved by fighting them.
Befriend the coronavirus. Do not see it as a bad thing, but as something necessary.
And talk to him: "What are you teaching me?" "You are valuable to me and I am willing to learn what you can teach me."
"As soon as I learn you can leave because I will no longer need you."
Take advantage of the opportunity that life is presenting to you right now, to do the interior job ... 
Unknown author.

Sword of Tabriz ,
it is quite simple , practice whatever religion you believe , understand the meaning of bani rather than going off topic and "trying" to pick faults
ONLY WAHEGURU knows the truth
ONLY WAHEGURU knows if the bani is suchi
ONLY WAHEGURU knows if we are reciting bani correctly

We on the other hand do our best to understand and practive bani , you could be here all year arguing your point what will it achieve- nothing
if you act on Gurus words , change your inner self , it would be much better

Dont get me wrong i'm no preacher , nor a scholar , keep it simple
there are alot of things we dont know and make alot of assumptions , but the main point being WE NEED TO CLEANSE ourselves , We may have all the knowledge in the world , and prove others wrong this will only feed your ego , BUT if we dont practive and change its worthless

In Gurbani, Guru Nanak Dev ji writes that he expresses the word of God as it comes to him. So Gurbani comes directly from God, is even a form of God itself, and is expressed and written by beings who are sargun saroops of God.

Just my 2 cents:
Though the chaar padaraths are very  well defined in the post above...  and about the question of Sadh janaa kee seva laage... I think it refers to,  as stated in the Bani also when Guru Jee says: Satgur kee seva safal hae, jeko karay chit laavay.
Sadh Jan, are also advanced spiritual beings, of high avastha,  who have reached that spiritual maturity, and have attained all that a jeev atma wants ast the physical level, which is to have all the 4 padarths achieved, and which can be fulfilled, by His grace, for He (as our mother or father) takes special care of these needs of His bhagat jan. He gives them inner satisfaction, so that do not feel perturbered , and continue with their Bhakti without fail.
As the Bani says: Nanak dukheeya sabh snasaar, se sukheeya jin Nam adhaar. O Nanak, the whole world is in distress, is unhappy, only that being who holds on to Nam is truly happy... 
So naturally, the sewa which any true Sadh Jan, as well as Guru Sahiban will ever tell us to do, is the one of attaching our surtees with that Highest and  ultimate Truth, the one of Nam, the one of Satnam, it can´t  be any otherwise, look it from any perspective.
SSA.
 

You are 100% correct and spot on veer ji as this is the best answer as everything you have written is lovely and well explained in ways i couldn't think of which i am glad you wrote veer ji.

Soulfinder Jee,
brother Ragmala has given a sound reply above as seen.
Nobody can satisfy other´s hunger. If you are hungry, you have to eat and masticate the food morsels by yourself, in order to satisfy your hunger.
In that respect, waheguru has kept within all of us in same measure, the wealth of Nam, it depends on each of us, as how much dhanvaan we want to become, by gathering that true wealth of Nam within us, to which there is no limitation, nor any taxation deducted by Kal upon that income.
Sarb rog ka aukhad Nam.
Do His chintan, His bhakti, as much as possible, and all our sins shall get washed gradually, thus our suffering will start diminishing. Remember our pain, our failures, our success, or be it any other thing, is due to our own karmas; but anyhow, the all mercifull Waheguru has also given us the medicine of His holy Name to be taken as much as possible, in order to nullify all our karmas.
That is it brother, stay blessed.
SSA.

Yea bro i feel you but i just remember that maharaj knows everything and controls everything. Also sorry to be rude but a certain type get into this mess too. Gurls need to be equiped spirtually and worldly

You are right veer ji but still you had way more kirpa as its a impossible jaap task for me if i would want to as i get headaches migraines which i want freedom from.

Veer, we all have Kirpa. This human body is the greatest blessing 🙏🏽

COVID 19,  seen from a Buddhist perspective
 
 
Disciple:
Master, it is so difficult for me to understand that the Father has sent us such an aggressive virus. What is the purpose?
 
Teacher:
The Father does not command it. It allows it, which is different. The pandemic was generated by man through the constant violation of universal laws.
 
Disciple:
But something so bad, is going to cause a lot of destruction.
 
Teacher:
Coronavirus is not bad. It is not good either. It is necessary, it is different. There is nothing wrong with the universe. If the coronavirus is present it is because it is allowed by Divinity, or it could not exist.
The idea of good and evil is generated in your mind that judges from its file of ignorance an event that in itself is neutral.
 
Disciple:
But so many people are being infected in the world, or are going to be left without even having anything to eat....  So many children, the elderly, men and women..... It is quite unfair.
 
Teacher:
The term unjust does not exist within universal love. That exists only in your mind that does not understand the purpose that is deep in it.
What does exist is the just, the precise, the exact, the corresponding. There is a necessary evolutionary process that consists of a constant collection of information. A learning through facing the difficulties that life presents us, so that in the midst of the chaos and suffering that is generated, we discover the principle of love that is found in life itself. And this principle of love is what will free us from human limitations, and will make us correspond with experiences of much more satisfaction and harmony.
You have to understand that nobody experiences an experience that does not correspond to him. And if it corresponds to him, he will live it, even when he struggles or resists. Coronavirus is not bad. It is very good, since many people are learning from it. The level of consciousness of the planet is rising, seeing us in the need to develop great tools of love such as acceptance, appreciation and adaptation. Patience, tolerance, and respect.
It may be a difficult test, but it is not bad. You are growing thanks to it. If you stop seeing the coronavirus from your fears, and start to see it from your understanding, you will be able to recognize the value that there is in it. So you can pass this test that life is presenting to you.
The decision is in you, and for that,  life gave you a Free Will.
You have been given the power to make decisions, and these will be respected by the entire universe. You can give a choice of fear, pride and ego.
Or you can give it to love. The choice is yours. It's on you!
What decision are you making? Did you choose fear, or love?
The decision is yours, but it will have a result, which is also yours, and you will have to assume.
If you decided on fear, you will generate destruction in your peace within, in your vital energy, in your relationships, and in your health.
If you decided for love, you will pass the test that life is presenting to you, and you will no longer need to suffer again.
Give love the option. The way is always love.
 
Disciple:
And what is giving the option to love?
 
Teacher:
- Become an imperturbable being. Invulnerable. Work on yourself, so that your peace and happiness do not depend on the external world.
- Stop seeing problems, and start seeing opportunities that you can take advantage of to do the  inner growth.
- Develop acceptance. "Everything that happens is perfect, and if it exists and happens it is because it has a purpose." "Father, may your will be done, and not mine." "Show me how I can serve you better."
- Learn to flow and adapt. Act wisely instead of reacting from fear.
- Watch your thought so that it only vibrates in the frequency of love. This will bring you clarity of mind.
- Do not share your fears with others. Share only your enthusiasm and your joy.
- Watch your words.
May your word create harmony, and make others feel confident and secure.
Difficulties are not solved by fighting them.
Befriend the coronavirus. Do not see it as a bad thing, but as something necessary.
And talk to him: "What are you teaching me?" "You are valuable to me and I am willing to learn what you can teach me."
"As soon as I learn you can leave because I will no longer need you."
Take advantage of the opportunity that life is presenting to you right now, to do the interior job ... 
Unknown author.

It would be best to put all these bastards against a wall and fire them with a machine gun.
They have no right to live, for as long as they are alive, they will continue with their atrocities against humanity.
😣😣😣😡😠

You know I think that sleazy predatory behaviour is such a strong impulse in certain animals, that they need to exercise it. Given that people are on lockdown, and given the physical limitations this now imposes, you'll likely to be getting more of these scumbags trolling forums/instagram/facebook/twitter etc. etc.  So be on your guard, and females especially, don't go talking unguarded with male strangers, allow the PMing!  - such predators can also come from any community (including ours sadly), excusing it away as some masculine 'womanising' impulse. So be streetwise and not dumb and don't conform to negative stereotypes. 
 
@Sarbatam
You know, admin on Sikh forums have to be a bit sharp too, and make sure their guard against people pretending to be Sikhs is fully on. This is your responsibility too folks. I know these types can go to serious lengths to infiltrate and portray themselves in ways to make the less sharp amongst us put their guard down. Remember, their perception is that we are a dumb gullible quom as it is.   It might be a good idea to be hawkish to a healthy extent. Robustly challenge ish that doesn't sit right, and derail any potential attempts to infiltrate and manipulate the more gullible amongst us. 
   
 

These people are scum

When they troll or infiltrate forums, you can tell by their language and attitude specifically word choice. Something feels off. And theyll sneak in quips like sikh girls like muslims and sikh men aren’t attractive. Also theyll post things asking for advice wherein the scenario theyre a sikh girls going for another non sikh man

What I noticed is that they sometimes take a while to expose themselves and act interested in Sikh debates, but after a while (When they think they have duped everyone) the off comments start coming in. Sometimes they way they might swear (or spell certain Panjabi words/phrases) gives them away - but that's if you have knowledge of these things. Growing up around a lot of them gives you insights into their thinking and dialects. 
Maybe some UK Sikhs are clued up about this, but people in other places like Canada or US need to be conscious of it.  I think people here have clocked the strategies of appealing to some common factor too, like caste (usually jut) or Panjabiness to get people's guards down. A lot of Canadian apnay seem primed to fall for the former strategy because they seem to have a stronger caste identity than a dharmic one. 
We need to give such people a short thrift once identified, and also be on guard. They rely on us just moseying around oblivious. 

Sat Sree Akal,,
yes Pen Jee, you are right.... It is the mind who is playing mischief. This very mind, is a faithful agent of the Universal mind or Kal Purukh, who does not want the soul to go back to its Father´s home(Sach Khand)....

But we too are not less, we are in essence same as Wahiguru, we are His sikhs also, means His devotees, So by getting support of His Name, happen whatever it may, we should hold His name as our only anchor.

What can the worst happen? To die? So what? Well, even that would be a blessing, as it is said, if at the last moments of one´s life, we go where our thoughts are... So if we die doing His Simran, where shall we go? Naturally nowhere, but direct to Him, sooner or later.

So make yourself strong, do not give up, come whatever it may. You see, where His rememberance is, through His Simran, no disasters happen there...whatever evil maybe...it flees away, it can not stand the puruty of His Name.

Another point, you say, it is around 2 am, when you go through that scary phases, so, have you tried to change to any other time?
You see, we should leave no stone unturned to give our best, in the best conditions...The darkness of agyanta is within, it has nothing to do with outer time,so, try doing at other time, where you feel comforted, in the end, it is by His Naam alone, that our spiritual darkness will be removed, and His splendour will shine within us with full force....

Last, when one is sick(karmas, sanskaras), one does not like the taste of the medicine, but, we shall get cured only, by taking the daily regular doses of medicine(Naam Simran).

It is not a question of days or months....it is our love, which we have to offer at His Lotus Feet, through His Simran.
Hum kookar tere Darbar...

Best of luck,may God bless you.
Sat Sree Akal.

Sat Sree Akal Lunalon,