harsharan000

Kal is no independent being by itself. 
He is a servant of Akal Purukh, and who under His Hukum, is administrating the triloki creation. All gods, prophets, incarnations, are his creations, his messengers to keep the creation going on, until, it is His mauj, to pack up the creation and abosorb all and everything into Him, just as in the initial stage.
But while, the creation can go on for Yugas after Yugas, yet by His apaar kirpa, according to Gurbani,  if anyone holds on only to just His one Nam (here no chaturaee, no rituals, no nonsense , or cheatings);  then one can get up lifted from this mayavee perishable creation and reach Nijh Ghar of Sach Khand.
SSA.

Hello Ajay,
welcome. It is true, many religions describe the divnity as  luminous energy, just as you mention in your post above.
But as we all know, lights have different  intensities. 
For example, we have a candle light, a tube light, a 20 watts bulb, or even a 100 watts one, just to mention a few sources...
So, if the creator is for example like a Sun, then we souls having emanted from Him, are just as rays of that Sun. 
And just as all rays are the same, each one of them carrying the same light, the same heat.... in that sense, we all souls are same, above any barriers such as genders, classes, caste, dharam, mazab, color, race, etc  etc and etc ....the list is endless.
In Gurbani, in the Aarti, we come to know something on this respect: Sabh meh jot, Jot hae soee
Which means, His light is in everything, He Himself is the Light.
Other thing is, as per our own different karmas, we are born in different cultures, in different countries, in different religions,  different races...etc 
But all these conditions are outer aspects, which differ  in each birth  of  the chaurasee  ka chakar .... and yet the stupids, and profoundly mentally disabled, create conflicts among themselves, hatred, thirst for blood,  by killing whosoever do not think alike ...utter madness, and yet they call themselves spiritually adavnced or gyanis, or even the priest class people.
Mostly all look at the different sizes and colors of the boxes, and make classifications/discriminations, as per those outer aspects, which are temporary and perishable, and yet, the essence of Truth in them all as souls, is the same in all.
Such a pity, blinds commiting attrocities and unjustice. 
Almost everybody forgets that, nobody is better or superior to anyone else.
It is just that by their own past karam, and in accordance with the Law of Nature, (as you sow, so shall you reap),each one as said above, is born in different envoirements, such as color, caste, gender, nationality, dharam or mazab.....
All this is done strictly and carried under the universal law of karma. Nobody can alter it, nor bribe nature. 
Religious scriptures are full of references and examples, to this one law.
In the Bible it says: even the hair on your body is numbered. (Nothing happensjust like that).
In the Bani we read: Aapay beejeh, aapay khaaey.( You sow, you reap and eat).
 
Going back to the point of Light as divinity mentioned in different religions, it could be well said, as all beings are also light, whether devis, devtays, incarnations, gods, godesses, angels...etc, absolutley all beings carry the light of their origin.
Some beings have less or almost no stain of karmas, thus they are purer, their glass covering is not so dirty, so in them the light or purity shines more... some are heavy sinners, their glass covering is so dirty, that there is absolute darkness, ignorance, no morality in them .... and so on.... yet in the very depth of all of them, the flame of the divine is the same in all, no less, no more, no partiality.
 
Moreover, in the infinite creation  all beings are like stars in the  sky, yet  there is one Infinite Sun also, absolutley brilliant,  full of refulgence, full of mercy, full of Love.
And refering to the Light of this Highest Consciousness, Supreme and eternal Truth, Gurbani tells us:
Je Sau Chanda Ugveh Sooraj  Chareh Hazaar , Ete Chanan Hundeya(n) Gur Bin Ghor Andhar.
If a hundred moons were to rise, and a thousand suns appeared, even with such light, there would still be pitch darkness without the Guru. And this Guru, is no other than the Aad Guru, or call it Satnam, or Waheguru also. Ooch apaar, beant Soami.
 
So you see, each one talks of light as divinity as per their own reach or level of consciousness. According to their escalated heights,  that they view that light and took it as ultimate reality.
But in Gurbani, Guru Sahiban, Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs, Sant Jan, having witnessed the refulgence and Light of that Supreme Being, Parbrahm Parmeshwar, namely Akal Purukh, Waheguru or Satnam; describe and share with us, the majesty, the  inmensity, the akhoot Jot,  of that One Universal Supreme Power.
You see, there is a vast difference between these Purest Beings: Guru Sahiban, Sant Jan, Gurmukhs, and the rest of the beings, howsoever prophets or endless list of gods there may be.
While the former, see only the Jot of Waheguru in all, thus unite humanity as equal, and give the gift of His bhakti to all alike;  the limited blind ones, divide and discriminate, thus remain prisoners in the mayavee creation.
If have any chances, just dive deep into the Bani, and savour the  Amrit of Nam contained in it, for the ultimate purpose of blending into that Anhad Bani as one without distinction.
Stay blessed.
Sat Sree Akal.

Hi Harsharanji, , 😀
Thank you for your reply. Reading the above filled me with bliss and light myself. 😇
I checked this out in the internet and found the verse number to be (13-5, DnwsrI, m 1 ).
An alternate translation goes like this...
sB mih joiq joiq hY soie ]
sabh meh jot jot hai so-ay.
Amongst all is the Light-You are that Light. (13-5, DnwsrI, m 1 )
 
Thank you again for your scholarly reply. 🙏
May you be blessed yourself by God Almighty Himself.
Sweet regards,
Ajay0

Bhen ji thats really terrible to hear that you are going through these problems. 
 
Have faith in Waheguru and keep doing ardas for your health.
 
Here is a few shabads banis in kathe i have found that i hope you will find helpful with your health condition.
 
As daas suffers from migraines and headaces i totally understand how hard it is what you are going through.
 
 
 
 
 

Hello Ajay,
welcome. It is true, many religions describe the divnity as  luminous energy, just as you mention in your post above.
But as we all know, lights have different  intensities. 
For example, we have a candle light, a tube light, a 20 watts bulb, or even a 100 watts one, just to mention a few sources...
So, if the creator is for example like a Sun, then we souls having emanted from Him, are just as rays of that Sun. 
And just as all rays are the same, each one of them carrying the same light, the same heat.... in that sense, we all souls are same, above any barriers such as genders, classes, caste, dharam, mazab, color, race, etc  etc and etc ....the list is endless.
In Gurbani, in the Aarti, we come to know something on this respect: Sabh meh jot, Jot hae soee
Which means, His light is in everything, He Himself is the Light.
Other thing is, as per our own different karmas, we are born in different cultures, in different countries, in different religions,  different races...etc 
But all these conditions are outer aspects, which differ  in each birth  of  the chaurasee  ka chakar .... and yet the stupids, and profoundly mentally disabled, create conflicts among themselves, hatred, thirst for blood,  by killing whosoever do not think alike ...utter madness, and yet they call themselves spiritually adavnced or gyanis, or even the priest class people.
Mostly all look at the different sizes and colors of the boxes, and make classifications/discriminations, as per those outer aspects, which are temporary and perishable, and yet, the essence of Truth in them all as souls, is the same in all.
Such a pity, blinds commiting attrocities and unjustice. 
Almost everybody forgets that, nobody is better or superior to anyone else.
It is just that by their own past karam, and in accordance with the Law of Nature, (as you sow, so shall you reap),each one as said above, is born in different envoirements, such as color, caste, gender, nationality, dharam or mazab.....
All this is done strictly and carried under the universal law of karma. Nobody can alter it, nor bribe nature. 
Religious scriptures are full of references and examples, to this one law.
In the Bible it says: even the hair on your body is numbered. (Nothing happensjust like that).
In the Bani we read: Aapay beejeh, aapay khaaey.( You sow, you reap and eat).
 
Going back to the point of Light as divinity mentioned in different religions, it could be well said, as all beings are also light, whether devis, devtays, incarnations, gods, godesses, angels...etc, absolutley all beings carry the light of their origin.
Some beings have less or almost no stain of karmas, thus they are purer, their glass covering is not so dirty, so in them the light or purity shines more... some are heavy sinners, their glass covering is so dirty, that there is absolute darkness, ignorance, no morality in them .... and so on.... yet in the very depth of all of them, the flame of the divine is the same in all, no less, no more, no partiality.
 
Moreover, in the infinite creation  all beings are like stars in the  sky, yet  there is one Infinite Sun also, absolutley brilliant,  full of refulgence, full of mercy, full of Love.
And refering to the Light of this Highest Consciousness, Supreme and eternal Truth, Gurbani tells us:
Je Sau Chanda Ugveh Sooraj  Chareh Hazaar , Ete Chanan Hundeya(n) Gur Bin Ghor Andhar.
If a hundred moons were to rise, and a thousand suns appeared, even with such light, there would still be pitch darkness without the Guru. And this Guru, is no other than the Aad Guru, or call it Satnam, or Waheguru also. Ooch apaar, beant Soami.
 
So you see, each one talks of light as divinity as per their own reach or level of consciousness. According to their escalated heights,  that they view that light and took it as ultimate reality.
But in Gurbani, Guru Sahiban, Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs, Sant Jan, having witnessed the refulgence and Light of that Supreme Being, Parbrahm Parmeshwar, namely Akal Purukh, Waheguru or Satnam; describe and share with us, the majesty, the  inmensity, the akhoot Jot,  of that One Universal Supreme Power.
You see, there is a vast difference between these Purest Beings: Guru Sahiban, Sant Jan, Gurmukhs, and the rest of the beings, howsoever prophets or endless list of gods there may be.
While the former, see only the Jot of Waheguru in all, thus unite humanity as equal, and give the gift of His bhakti to all alike;  the limited blind ones, divide and discriminate, thus remain prisoners in the mayavee creation.
If have any chances, just dive deep into the Bani, and savour the  Amrit of Nam contained in it, for the ultimate purpose of blending into that Anhad Bani as one without distinction.
Stay blessed.
Sat Sree Akal.

Simran Stages
In terms of a layman AJAPA JAAP is the spiritual condition of a person when the Simran goes on an auto pilot mode in your Surat and then in Hirdey and so on as explained below. It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn’t stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani.  The normal sequence is as follows:
 
1. Jaap with Tounge – Rasna – this happens in Dharam Khand
 
2. Jaap with the breathing – with Swaas – this happens in Gyan Khand and Saram Khand
 
3. Then Naam goes into your mind – Surat, in your thinking, then it becomes Simran from Jaap – this is a very good stage – this happens in Saram Khand and Karam Khand – some people go into Smadhi at this stage.
 
4. The next stage is when Simran goes into Hirdey – this one is even much higher stage when Naam goes into Hirdey – this is where it goes on an automatic mode, this is where the real bhagti starts, one goes into Smadhi and Sun Smadhi– Karam Khand  – this is when you go into Smadhi and the real bhagti starts, your bhagti account is opened in the Dargah.
 
5. The next stage is when Simran travels to the Nabhi, when Nabhi Kamal blossoms – Karam Khand
 
6. The next Stage is when Simran goes into Kundlini – Mooladhaar Chakkar and spine – Karam Khand
 
7. The next stage is when Simran travels through the spine to the brain, and back to Surat where it completes the cycle. This is what the real Mala of Naam is.  When this happens then the Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar opens and you form a permanent connection with Akal Purakh, you start to get divine knowledge – Braham Gyan. This happens in Sach Khand.  Enjoyment – Anand in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi is beyond description. That is why the Maha Purakhs go into very deep meditation some time for days together. You experience a lot of things during your Smadhi and Sun Smadhi, see a lot of things, it is beyond description what happens and through what you go when you go into deep meditation. This is the stage when all the doors – Bajjar Kapaat are opened and there is a continuous flow of Amrit, body is always full of Amrit.
 
8. The Simran in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi continues until NIRGUN AND SARGUN becomes one, at this point Simran goes into rom-rom – every bit of your body does Naam Simran, your Suksham Dehi becomes as pure as gold, your entire body is filled with Naam Amrit all the time. You become Braham Leen, and  reach Atal Awastha.  These stages are beyond description. Sat Chit Anand Ghar Hamare – Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhyae – Nirgun Sargun Nirankaar Sun Smadhi Aap, Apan Kia Nanka Apan Hi Fir Jaap and so on.  One lives in Puran Parkash all the time and listens to Ilahi Kirtan – Anhad Naad Dhunis all the time. It is just incredible experience. This is when one becomes Sat Ram Dass and is directed by the Almighty to serve the Sangat. And this is what your target should be when you have been prompted to move on the Bhagti Marg.
 
Following is the benefit sequence:
 
Jaap with Rasna 1000 times  = Jaap in Swaas one time
Jaap in Swaas 1000 times = Simran in Surat one time
Simran in Surat 1000 times = Simran in Hirdey or elsewhere one time
 
So Simran in Hirdey and beyond is the most rewarding one. Again some people might think we are getting into counting the benefit, and it is correct to say that we should not indulge in counting, but it is just a way to make the Sangat understand that which way and where Simran will bring what kind of rewards.
 
The 1000 numbers signify that the rewards of Simran in Hirdey are much higher than doing Jaap with Rasna. If you do Jaap with Rasna  your Rasna will become pavitter – pious, by doing jaap in along breathing – swass your swass will become pious – pavitter, by doing Simran in mind-Surat-Chit- mind will become pious – pavitter, and that is what you need to do to make your mind pious – pavitter, that is how you will have control on your mind – MAN JEETE JAG JEET – MAN TU JYOT SAROOP HAI and you will be able to rise above Panj Doots – KAAM, KRODH, LOBH, MOH, AHANKAAR AND ALSO ASA, TRISHNA, MANSHA, NINDYA, CHUGLI, BAKHILI, RAJ, JOBAN, DHAN, MAAL, ROOP, RAS, GANDH, THESE THUGS – MENTAL SICKNESSES. 
 
And when Simran goes in to Hirdey – and Simran will go to Hirdey by itself with Gurkirpa only, and so in Chit, Hirdey will become pavitter – pious and a pious Hirdey will become Mahaparupkari and Dana Dina, NIRBHAO, NIRVAIR and so on, it will start to absorb all the vital qualities of Akal Purakh and will become a Puran Sant Hirda, and will achieve JIVAN MUKTI – PARAM PADVI-BRAHAM GYAN. 
 
The true definition of a Sant is not by wearing a chola – outside dress and outside rituals, it is the Hirda that becomes Puran Sachyara – completely truthful and that  – HIRDA IS SANT and when the Naam Rattan goes into Hirdey – jad naam rattn Hirdey vich jad da hai taan Braham Gyan di neev rakhi jandi hai ji, so please try to understand it and put it into your daily lives to get Naam Rattan planted in your Hirdey – then naam goes to Nabhi and spine and so on, and again it happens by itself and with Gurkirpa and not by our own efforts, it will happen only under Hukam.
Again higher state of AMRIT IS NAAM AMRIT and – PRABH KA SIMRAN SABH TE UNCHA – HAR SIMRAN ME AAP NIRANKAARA – KINKA EK JIS JEE BASAVE TAKI MAHIMA GANI NAA AAWE – HAR KE NAAM SAMSR KICHU NAAHIN – TUDH BAAJH KUDO KOOD – EH DHAN SANCHO HOWO BHAGWANT, so please try to make your life cleaner, rise above Panj Doots, kill your desires and don’t indulge in Nindya, rise above all the doubts – Dubidha – Dharam De Bharam – follow the Braham Gyan of Gurbani in your daily lives, become a Puran Sachyara – completely truthful person, serve the truth and achieve your goal of Jivan Mukti.
 
As you continue on this path, and as you make more and more progress by following and living according to Gurbani, and Simran is the most important ingradient over here, and you become more and more Sachyara, your Atmik Awastha will keep on moving upwards through the Five Khands.In Sach Khand you reach Chad Di Kala  – this is a very high stage of spirituality, it is the completeness stage, it comes only after reaching the Atal Awastha, means when the soul is always in the Nirlep Awastha, means can’t be distracted or deviated due to any happening around you, doesn’t bring any doubts and bharams in side you concerning the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, it is the highest stage of bandgi, it is the Puran Braham Gyan Stage, Param Padvi Stage, the Sach Khand Stage, when nothing can break you up from the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, when you have completely won over the maya. The soul becomes a single vision, no worldly sukh or dukh can effect it, no animosity with anybody, no effect of ustat or nindya, always absorbed in Almighty, always doing good to others, no harming or hurting of anybody, win over panj doots, desires and maya. This state of Chad Di Kala comes through Naam.  In Gurbani this is what the Satguru’s prayed to God if it is in God’s Will, that Naam Chad di kala be given to EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD FOR THEIR UPLIFMENT.  ‘Nanak Naam Chad di kala. Teray Bhanay Sarbatt Da Bhalla.”   When you are this state you also help others to reach it too.  That is a SANT reason for being in this world.

Just had an amazing experience. I was just laying down and heard my pulse but also found myself chanting "vahe-guru" with each heart beat. I tried to see if I was making up things so I tried to stop it but it didn't stop. It just kept going. My body was completely still like one in deep sleep to the point I thought I wasn't even in my body anymore. 

Hello all, 😀
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....

In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalingam as representing a cosmic pillar or point of light.  The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says  Jesus Christ ( 1 John 1:5 ), in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well, light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard in Sikhism, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance. 😀
Ajay.
 

Being Positive Enough.mp4

A couple came home at midnight after having a good time at a restaurant, only to find the smell of gas around the house.
The man went to the kitchen and detected a stronger smell. The subconscious mind pushed him to turn on the light. and the kitchen exploded, the husband died instantly and the wife was moved to intensive care where she still remains.
The furniture was seen 200 metres from the house, which meant that the gas pipe explosion was stronger than a bomb.
The lesson from this appalling incident is as follows:
When you smell the gas do not turn on the light, but open all the doors and windows calmly, so that no spark occurs, then close the gas tube and do not turn on the light until the smell of gas completely disappears.
Also do not open the refrigerator if you smell the gas, because it also causes an explosion, and even the suction fan do not switch it on because it has an electrical charge, just open the windows.
You should not read this letter alone, publish it as much as you can,  so it may  be helpful to  as many people  as possible.
 

Waheguru Dhan Guru Ramdas Ji.  Veer ji if you want me to download any videos from youtube and upload them on this site as a mp4 let me know as i have got a app that lets me convert and share. 
 
I usually make a back up in case youtube deletes them or other sites.

Fateh

Look deep inside, this has nothing to do with nimaz or path.....WaheGuru/Allah is within in you, not in the sky.

Religion in a whole is dying, face it. You talk about being alienated, and put muslims and christians on a par to sikhi . Veer ji there are loads of people claiming to have the best religion, there are even more who claim to be of that religion who are no were near it. The blessed sikh/muslim/christian is the one who can feel akal when he/she does something wrong/right, morning and night.

In gurbani there is an ang that talks about a man being lonely, no home, spouse, friend, relations and walks in rags but he is truley the king of the world when he has akal on his mind 24/7.

Your worldy relationships have come to a stop veer ji, theres no one that can give you that kick start, maybe some muslim/christian friend have given you a fresh outlook on things but even if you converted, lets just say. veer ji you are going in the same direction because you need to forget about ways of seeking akal physically, you have already found him, i think you just need his darshan............look inside, meditate on naam, you dont need, religious names, freinds, stories....make your own with him.

I pray for you veer and everyone else.......Akal bless

And look at how some of the people who do namaaz behave. Look at the rampant rapists and sadists that made up ISIS and the groomers in the UK. (Not saying that all sullay are like this though, but enough to make it noticeable).
Personally I feel sorry for many of the people from Indic backgrounds (like paks or bengalis) whose ancestors became sullay (under whatever circumstances). Now they are stuck with doing prayers that they can't really understand. If they were tied to Gurbani, they'd be familiar with much more of the grammar/syntax and language. Instead they have to subordinate themselves to Arabic culture. 
We are blessed that our ancestors never took that path.  

True, and well said.
But above any other things, with Gurbani alone we become better human beings and become one with Waheguru.
So no need for anything else from anyone.
Gurbani is the highest truth.
SSA.

True, and well said.
But above any other things, with Gurbani alone we become better human beings and become one with Waheguru.
So no need for anything else from anyone.
Gurbani is the highest truth.
SSA.

Why would someone want to do namaz anyway? With Gurbani we get to understand what is being relayed because the language is a lot more familiar. 

Can A Sikh Do Namaz?
By Mr Sardar, December 5, 2010 in Sikhism.
 
Brother,
for sure one should do namaaz, not once, twice, or be it a 101 times, if it could only take you nearer towards Waheguru.
According to the teachings of Guru Sahiban and Bhagat Jan, that Akhoot Jot, Anhad Bani, Amrit Bani, Nam, Shabad Guru, the true and eternal reality,  is not anywhere outside, but right within us. 
So brother, in reality, any practice which does not take us to our beloved Akal Purukh, but keep us confined in the mayavee mental spheres, should be discarded.
For it is Waheguru Akal Purukh only, what counts for us, every other thing which does not take us towards Him, is just"koor";  so as such, should be discarded at the earliest, and do only that what pleases Him.
Stay blessed.
SSA.
 

There is nothing in Islam that suggests that wahi(revelation) is not possible after the Prophet. I think Rumi and Al Ghazali also claimed to recieve words of God and even in the Quran there are examples of non-prophets recieving revelations (the mother of Jesus etc).

Dalsingh:

There is a saying: Nanak Shah faqeer. Hindu ka Guru, musalman ka pir.

In the mystic traditions of Islam and "hinduism" it is only the guru/pir who can evolve you spiritually, and not the rituals described in the quran/vedas.

That the saying says Pir for the muslims and not rasul/nabi says it all. Its not "bowing down to Islam" as some would say but rather that the two religions are compatible hence on two different levels.

The Gurus never used the terms rasul or nabi, nor are these titles given to the Gurus in the persian hymns of Bhai Nand Lal.

From an Islamic sufi point of view Sikhi could be considered a tariqa, an order with a Sheikh that guides the individual above the sharia level. As far as I remember, the titles of supreme Sheikh and murshid are given to the Gurus in Bhai Nand Lals hymns which means that when Bhai Nand Lal presented Sikhi to a muslim audience he never claimed that the Gurus were prophets after Muhammad.