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Harjinder Butoy, 45, ran the Sutton-in-Ashfield post office in Nottinghamshire He was arrested and then jailed for three years and three months in 2008 High Court overturned Mr Butoy's conviction along with those of 38 others  Mr Butoy told an inquiry today his family were 'destroyed' by the false conviction  
 
 
A former subpostmaster whose family was 'destroyed' after he was wrongfully convicted and jailed for stealing more than £200,000 due to flaws with the Post Office computer system has revealed his ordeal at an inquiry today.
Harjinder Butoy, 45, ran the Sutton-in-Ashfield post office with his wife in Nottinghamshire until he was arrested, charged and then jailed for three years and three months in 2008 for stealing £208,000. 
His prison sentence - thought to be one of the largest sentences among the Horizon cases - was accompanied by a £60,000 confiscation order, which forced Mr Butoy to file for bankruptcy. 
Speaking to an inquiry into the scandal today, Mr Butoy said his family were 'destroyed' by the false conviction as he described his 'terrible' ordeal in prison, losing more than six stone as he battled stress 'every day'. 
 
He said: 'I kept thinking how did I end up here, just thinking about my family. It was the same for them as it was for me - we all got destroyed.' 
Mr Butoy said it was 'awful' for his wife and three children, who had to move in with his parents in Chesterfield after shutting down the business.
Mr Butoy was among more than 700 subpostmasters and subpostmistresses (SPMs) prosecuted between 2000 and 2014, based on information from the Horizon IT system, installed and maintained by Fujitsu.
However, in December 2019 a High Court judge ruled that Horizon contained a number of 'bugs, errors and defects' and there was a 'material risk' that shortfalls in Post Office branch accounts were caused by the system.
The High Court overturned Mr Butoy's conviction along with those of 38 other former postmasters in April last year.

 
The former subpostmaster said that between 2004 and 2007, his branch had no problems passing the Post Office's audits and was even signed off on an audit without any issues a week before his arrest.
But on April 24 2007, he was detained by Criminal Investigation Department officers after a group of people turned up to his branch to do a security audit and found £208,000 missing.
Mr Butoy said he felt 'shocked', 'confused' and 'ashamed' as customers watched him being taken away by the police.
In September 2008, he faced trial at Nottingham Crown Court where he maintained his innocence and questioned whether the Horizon information was correct but the Post Office argued it was '100% robust'. 
Mr Butoy said when the guilty verdict came in he 'just fell apart' he 'wasn't prepared for it'. He said he ended up filing for bankruptcy as he struggled to pay back the £60,000.
'Everything has just fallen apart for me. I have no confidence in myself anymore,' he said. 'I had a really good reputation with the public and then I just lost it by the click.'
On what he wants from the Post Office now, he said: 'I want somebody to go to prison.'
William David Graham, 53, a former branch manager, said he was diagnosed with depression after being wrongly convicted of falsifying accounts.
The father of two, who had worked his way up through the Post Office since 1992, told the inquiry he used to be 'the life and soul of the party'.
Mr Graham eventually left the Post Office itself to become the manager of the Riverside branch in Sevenoaks.
But shortfalls of £65,000 were incorrectly identified in 2009 and he was charged with theft and falsifying accounts before taking a plea deal in 2011.
After paying back a £5,000 shortfall found in 2004 from his own pocket, Mr Graham then discovered a £50,000 shortfall, which he chose not to report.
'That was my whole salary for a year,' he said. 'That was how I put food on the table for my wife and children.'
Auditors discovered £65,000 missing in the accounts in early 2009 and he admitted to inflating the figure to make the balance look right.
He was offered a plea deal to avoid a custodial sentence in 2011 and was handed a 32-week suspended prison sentence.
'When they said the 32 weeks in prison, the gap before they said it was suspended - I could hear my wife scream,' Mr Graham said, growing visibly emotional as he described the hearing as 'hell'.
Following the ordeal, he said: 'I went to the doctor and I was diagnosed with depression because I just felt worthless.'
Mr Graham added: 'I've got a wife and children at home. I couldn't provide for them.'
On what he wants now, Mr Graham said: 'I just want the Post Office to stand up and say, we knew there's a problem, this is when it started, this is what we didn't do, this is what we should have done and get justice for the people that have gone through this pain.'
The inquiry, which is expected to run for the rest of this year, is looking into whether the Post Office knew about faults in the IT system and will also ask how staff were made to take the blame.
Jason Beer QC, counsel to the inquiry, said during his opening that the ordeal of those affected could be concluded as 'the worst miscarriage of justice in recent British legal history'
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10519793/Post-Office-worker-45-tells-Horizon-inquiry-family-destroyed-wrongful-conviction.html

Tories. If they don't like the rules, they make new ones up as they go along. Let's all have a party.....so what if it's illegal

@paapimanGreat advice bhai ji,
@guest guptsingh  Please try cold shower, breathing meditation, naam simran,  physical exercise and the most important commitment. Take a challenge just for one month,  plan a schedule and take ACTION.
Come back in one month time to prove us wrong! 
Wish you very good luck! 

I'm not sure he'd be allowed to. They're medical records. 

On one level, are you surprised? I think afghans probably see the pakjabis as sneaky, devious people who continually try to manipulate them whenever there is a crisis in afghanistan.   

Were they not Buddhist or Hindu at one time also ?

I think they either expected us to go like lambs to the slaughter, or didn't care anyway. It was a win win for them, brown folks slaughtering each other whilst they slipped away into the sunset. 

Keep listening to the Jaap of Khalsa Gayetri Mantar (Gobinde Mukande......), while you sleep.
Please watch the video below.
 
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The book "Miracles Happen" is also written by Dr.Weiss.
There was some controversy regarding Dr. Newton right? Did he release the tapes of his patients?
 
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Try taking multiple cold showers in a day. That might help with Depression and Anxiety.
What about Physical workouts? Are you physically very active?
Cold Shower Therapy: Joel Runyon at TEDxLUC - YouTube
 
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The foremost thing here is your mental and physical health.
Are you taking medication for Depression and Anxiety?
Have you got full blood work (including Vitamin D testing) done?
Do you practice Celibacy?
Do you take cold showers on a daily basis?
 
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Thanks a lot sister for this valuable info. You are amazing.
 
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What about the War tactics/Martial arts of the Samurais? Are they still practiced by people in secret?
Thanks
 
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What the hell were they (Brits) expecting? Sikhs (and Hindus) to not retaliate after riots in West Punjab and elsewhere against us?
 
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Do you feel like drinking tea or coffee?
Do you feel like eating eggs or meat?
Some of the Rehats followed in Taksaal are mainly meant for people, who are students in Taksaals. You are not a Taksaali. So don't worry too much about their Maryada for now.
 
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We don't really have a lot of freedom over here too. It might be an illusion.
But, you are right. I should keep my mouth shut before the Police pay me a visit again. They have already been here two times.
Say no more.
 
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There is another derogatory term which Pathans/Afghans use for Punjabi (or other East Indian) Muslims. Have you guys heard about it? Some term like Hindooka? 
 
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We are the "Black" Punjabis. LOL.
 
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@dalsingh101 - Heard about this assassination? A Pathan did it.
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In February 1872, Lord Mayo, Governor-General of India, was assassinated at the penal settlement of Port Blair in the Andaman Islands whilst paying a viceregal visit to the Province of British Burma. His assassin, a Pathan from North West India who had been in the Peshawar police, made no attempt to escape. He had been serving a life sentence for murder, a murder of which he had declared himself ‘Not Guilty’.
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[1] - The assassination of Lord Mayo: The 'first' jihad? | IJAPS (usm.my)
 
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Only retards ain't figured that out. I mean come on, they stood by and watched our people getting mass murdered and raped by their newly found friends, and the latter also continued in england itself. 

I did say purportedly lol. Lots of stories are coming out of the NWFP about constant fighting between the Taliban and Pakistan, hopefully there will be more up to date videos available soon. 

What happened in Kunar, who are the black punjabis?  

Afghanistan and Pakistan exchanged artillery fire. The talibs then claim they infiltrated the border and had a firefight with the islamabaddies, who are staying quiet on what happened. 
As for the black Punjabis, lets just say it’s not a political thing but a reference to their skin colour. So much for the whole ‘no racism in Islam’ that they like to claim. 

Many Lives Many Masters looks super familiar, I think I did skim it. I read Dr Michael Newton's works far more throughly.