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    JasperS got a reaction from Lucky in Lord Singh's email on Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib   
    Absolutely! There is no doubt! 
    And so is everything else in Creation! Because God is all there truly is. All the trees, the sky, the animals, all humans. 
    The difference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji and us, is that the veil we operate through, which keeps us from realizing the truth has been lifted. He and God were ONE and the same. The body however was still part of the creation. But the consciousness was God fully realized. How does one realize that death is false and conquer it while alive? By realizing the body is NOT the identity. The doer, the awareness which animates us all, is God and only God. I believe this is what the Gurus were teaching us, how to realize this truth.
    The truth that He IS Me. And to recognize your own self:
    ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
    Bin gur parīṯ na ūpjai ha▫umai mail na jā▫e.
    Without the Guru, love does not well up, and the filth of egotism does not depart. 
    ਸੋਹੰ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਭੇਦਿ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Sohaʼn āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai sabaḏ bẖeḏ paṯī▫ā▫e.
    One who recognizes within himself that, "He is me", and who is pierced through by the Shabad, is satisfied.
    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਅਵਰ ਕਿ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਇ ॥੯॥
    Gurmukẖ āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai avar kė kare karā▫e. ||9||
    When one becomes Gurmukh and realizes his own self, what more is there left to do or have done? ||9||
    ਮਿਲਿਆ ਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੇਲੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲੇ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Mili▫ā kā ki▫ā melī▫ai sabaḏ mile paṯī▫ā▫e.
    Why speak of union to those who are already united with the Lord? Receiving the Shabad, they are satisfied.
    ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਨਾ ਪਵੈ ਵੀਛੁੜਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਖਾਇ ॥
    Manmukẖ sojẖī nā pavai vīcẖẖuṛ cẖotā kẖā▫e.
    The self-willed manmukhs do not understand; separated from Him, they endure beatings. (by not understanding they remain in the illusion of separation)
     
    I have seen lately however that a lot of young Singhs want to apply Abrahamic lens on Sikh philosophy and they are not compatible.  Abrahamic teaching is that God is separate from creation, therefore, humans are something separate from God. Gurbani tells us that God is not something separate from us sitting on a cloud. God is within ourselves, and everything and everyone else too! There is only one supreme consciousness and its the same one behind every set of eyes. If there is only ONE, then logic dictates that there can't be 'others'. In fact the idea of a soul is even been distorted because in reality there are no separate souls. There is only ONE. Its like we are characters in a big dream. But there is only the ONE dreamer. But it is possible for the characters to become aware who they really are, and awaken within the dream. But if there is only ONE dreamer, then everything in the dream must actually be the dreamer. 
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    JasperS got a reaction from tva prasad in Lord Singh's email on Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib   
    Absolutely! There is no doubt! 
    And so is everything else in Creation! Because God is all there truly is. All the trees, the sky, the animals, all humans. 
    The difference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji and us, is that the veil we operate through, which keeps us from realizing the truth has been lifted. He and God were ONE and the same. The body however was still part of the creation. But the consciousness was God fully realized. How does one realize that death is false and conquer it while alive? By realizing the body is NOT the identity. The doer, the awareness which animates us all, is God and only God. I believe this is what the Gurus were teaching us, how to realize this truth.
    The truth that He IS Me. And to recognize your own self:
    ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
    Bin gur parīṯ na ūpjai ha▫umai mail na jā▫e.
    Without the Guru, love does not well up, and the filth of egotism does not depart. 
    ਸੋਹੰ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਭੇਦਿ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Sohaʼn āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai sabaḏ bẖeḏ paṯī▫ā▫e.
    One who recognizes within himself that, "He is me", and who is pierced through by the Shabad, is satisfied.
    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਅਵਰ ਕਿ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਇ ॥੯॥
    Gurmukẖ āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai avar kė kare karā▫e. ||9||
    When one becomes Gurmukh and realizes his own self, what more is there left to do or have done? ||9||
    ਮਿਲਿਆ ਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੇਲੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲੇ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥
    Mili▫ā kā ki▫ā melī▫ai sabaḏ mile paṯī▫ā▫e.
    Why speak of union to those who are already united with the Lord? Receiving the Shabad, they are satisfied.
    ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਨਾ ਪਵੈ ਵੀਛੁੜਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਖਾਇ ॥
    Manmukẖ sojẖī nā pavai vīcẖẖuṛ cẖotā kẖā▫e.
    The self-willed manmukhs do not understand; separated from Him, they endure beatings. (by not understanding they remain in the illusion of separation)
     
    I have seen lately however that a lot of young Singhs want to apply Abrahamic lens on Sikh philosophy and they are not compatible.  Abrahamic teaching is that God is separate from creation, therefore, humans are something separate from God. Gurbani tells us that God is not something separate from us sitting on a cloud. God is within ourselves, and everything and everyone else too! There is only one supreme consciousness and its the same one behind every set of eyes. If there is only ONE, then logic dictates that there can't be 'others'. In fact the idea of a soul is even been distorted because in reality there are no separate souls. There is only ONE. Its like we are characters in a big dream. But there is only the ONE dreamer. But it is possible for the characters to become aware who they really are, and awaken within the dream. But if there is only ONE dreamer, then everything in the dream must actually be the dreamer. 
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    JasperS reacted to tva prasad in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    According to guru ji woman are not weak. If guru ji thought that women r weak do u think they would let them fight in battles with men? Why would they let women take amrit? Why would they let women play gatka, carry the sword, etc.? Guru g has no discrimination against anyone, as his Sikhs neither should we. How is it fair to treat one better than the other if all contain the divine light of god himself? Those who practice discrimination will have to suffer. Those who brought discrimination into sikhi will have to suffer. That is the divine law of karma.
    pati parmeshwar equals faithfull singhni
    what sort of qualities should pati parmeshwar have and what sort should a faithfull singhni have? Good, right?
    good equals good. So it is balanced. The main thing is the respect each other. That I my opinion and I m not saying it is a fact or anything.
    1 thing I hate is discrimination. Discrimination against anything animals, gender, age, etc. I just hate it. It is not human to discriminate other wether it be animal or human.
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    JasperS got a reaction from Liv in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Pati Parmeshwar concept has no place in Sikhi. Not unless it goes hand in hand with "Patni Parmeshwari".  Seeing God in each other, it goes both ways.

    ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸੋਇ ॥
    Sabẖ mėh joṯ joṯ hai so▫e.
    The Divine Light is within everyone; You are that Light.
    If the divine light is within everyone as Gurbani says, then I am no more her pati parmeshwar than my wife is my patni parmeshwari. To expect her to look up to me as something higher than her is unthinkable.
    But seeing the divine in someone is different than seeing someone AS God. No human should ever be seen AS God. That is left for Waheguru alone. 
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    JasperS reacted to IJJSingh in Justice Indian Style   
    Touching story of Satwant Singh Manak who has spent the last 19 years of his life trying to secure a fair hearing in the Indian court system for the innocent Sikhs he saw killed.
     
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    JasperS reacted in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Why is paapiman on here with an agenda to promote DDT?
    I thought this forum was Sikhawareness? When I first looked on here some months ago, I thought it was a ddt ste because of paapiman's multi-spamming katha posts.
    This itself is not sikhi cuz you are looking thru One-eye and shutting off everyone else.. Just like muslims.   Bani says, hindu anna, turk kaanaa.  Ddt or any jathawashed Sikhs are simply kaaana(one-eyed), cuz they see everyone outside as a worthless kafir.
    btw, most of jathas translations can be poor and should always be seen with 2 eyes, not 1(paapiman)
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    JasperS reacted to Lucky in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    Gurbani is the Highest like you say and that is what you should always stick with as primary.
    I agree with what you say about  Man=Woman, All is One...but sadly, we have Sikhs that can influence huge people with their own interpretations of gurbani, usually to suit their own agendas.
    Gurbani is the Ultimate TRUTH.  period!... Therefore, if someone distorts it and says that this means that and that means this, but you personally find some sort of contradiction with gurmat.... then you will need to dig for the answer yourself and find the real Truth.
    Basically, if Gurbani is TRUTH, then it is IMPOSSBLE for it to contradict itself because TRUTH can NEVER CONTRADICT.
    The example you mention of woman worshipping man is from a gurbani interpretation. However, it clearly contradicts Guru Nanak ji's Philosophy. Therefore, the interpretation is clearly wrong and misunderstood and we should make it our own duty as Sikhs to find the Truth. Remember, the Truth is within us once you step outside your MIND.
     
     
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    JasperS got a reaction from jaikaara in are mushrooms vegetarian according to sikhism   
    Actually, fungus are considered living organisms which are much much closer related to animal than plant. They have chitin in their cell walls, plants do not. 
    As food goes, most people consider mushrooms to be vegetables because they cook and eat like a veggie. But they are actually more animal like than plant like. 
    Besides it's as Guru Nanak said "what is meat? what is green vegetables? what leads to sin?" makes us think. Trees actually have very intricate communication networks through their root systems, and plants can feel and react to damaging stimuli (pain?) 
     
     
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    JasperS reacted to DSG in Confused Sad Sikh Girl   
    Guest Sharanpreet
    Sikhi has not changed since Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's time , it has always been beautiful , showing love, respect , compassion to all human kind . ( end of no ifs and buts) 
    ITs us humans , who are making up our own rules , our own jattabandis NOT Sikhi.
    So as a humble request , aim is to follow sikhi from the heart , learn  , read , sing gurbani ( I know its easy to write this , but hard to do but aim is to do it ). YOur inner self will then tell you how beautiful Sikhi is , any doubts , misconceptions will be cleared , will become irrelevant , your connection with the almighty will be yours and yours alone . You will be guided correctly , without even knowing .
     
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    JasperS got a reaction from HappyDays in The Truth about Hemkunt   
    The question is more why would they? The assumption I am getting here is that sex = bad. Therefore our Gurus would never have anything to do with this gross bass carnal thing. 
    This is such wrong thinking.  Sexuality was created by Waheguru. Union between male / female is a beautiful thing when not misused. It's not intercourse that is disgusting. It's the misuse of it for purely physical gratification that is disgusting. It's warping the original meaning of sexuality which can be a highly spiritual act! I can't explain to you how, you have to arrive at that conclusion yourself. In fact, its one of the closest acts we can do under the correct pretence, that mimics the merging of our soul back with waheguru. There is a spiritual merging of energy between husband and wife when this occurs. Once you view intercourse in this way, it no longer seems disgusting, nor something that would have any reason for our Gurus to avoid. Its OUR minds which make sex into something disgusting only. 

    So why would our Gurus avoid it? To suggest so, says that sex is inherently bad. All sex. And to suggest that Gurus never engaged in it, says that their wives did not actually share any marital relationship at all if it was purely platonic (why marry them then when they could just as easily have congregated with him as sisters / servants / companions)? It also suggests that since the Gurus had children, that those children were not biologically related to the Gurus. It takes two sets of DNA to create a child. Were the Gurus wives just treated as breeding stock?
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    JasperS got a reaction from jaikaara in Good Odor from the Bodies (including waste matter)   
    I had the bad example of being near a supposed sant near Ludhiana once.  His body odour was horrendous. Like stinky underarm sweat smell and no deoderant. Am I to take it from this, that he was not really a sant? 
    Human bodies smell. Period. If you are healthy, the more your stool will smell too and it is a good thing not a bad thing. Means you are processing your food well. Please dont get caught up in superstitions.  
     
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    JasperS reacted to dalsingh101 in Good Odor from the Bodies (including waste matter)   
    Another perspective:
     
    What if Singhs were stuck in some fort that was surrounded and cut off for days, and were being led by a sant-sipahi. If there was no access to water to wash and people got (understandably) grimey over a week or so; should we desert the sant-sipahi leader because they may have got a bit 'smelly' due to lack of washing facilities?
    I tell you, some of the stuff some of our kathakaars are coming out with is comical.
     
    But what is disturbing is how some adult Sikhs seem incapable of using any sort of discernment towards what they hear and lap it up blindly. 
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    JasperS got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Good Odor from the Bodies (including waste matter)   
    I had the bad example of being near a supposed sant near Ludhiana once.  His body odour was horrendous. Like stinky underarm sweat smell and no deoderant. Am I to take it from this, that he was not really a sant? 
    Human bodies smell. Period. If you are healthy, the more your stool will smell too and it is a good thing not a bad thing. Means you are processing your food well. Please dont get caught up in superstitions.  
     
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    JasperS reacted to CdnSikhGirl in Who is a Chamar?   
    Why can't people just look at the soul instead of all these petty things like caste colour gender even financial or political status etc? Even on here why can't we all recognize that we are all in fact the same!? All humans should be treated the same regardless of any of the above. 
    Anyway if caste is job then what is military?? Lol oh wait right I'm female therefore in caste system I'd be lower than an untouchable male. 
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    JasperS reacted to GurpreetKaur in Who can eat Meat?   
    Dal Singh ji, I swear upon my mom I did not get what he meant. Go ahead call me dumb. And my reply was just a reply without giving much thought the way you said. It's not polite to call someone dirty minded just based on your assumption. I just asked you once why you call people pendu and you got so mad. I don't know if you have anger problem or not but if I offended you I am sorry for that.
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    JasperS reacted to CdnSikhGirl in Matter is manifested by Consciousness... Article.   
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/08/10-scientific-studies-that-prove-consciousness-can-alter-our-physical-material-world/
     
    Interesting read! 
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    JasperS got a reaction from jaikaara in Kashmir Sikh chanting slogans of Pakistan Zindabad.   
    Where was this?  Could it have been Pakistan controlled Kashmir? 
    edit: lot of them look like Muslim, don't understand why Sikhs would participate in this. I am at a loss. 
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    JasperS got a reaction from Koi in why nanaksar ragiis are celibate   
    Celibacy is not required to find God. But some groups may practice it because they feel like it creates less distraction so they can devote their lives to God.  Catholic priests and nuns are required to be celibate just as an example. But celibacy in the religion catholicism is not required actually quite the opposite.  Same for certain Buddhist monks etc.  
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    JasperS got a reaction from SAadmin in why nanaksar ragiis are celibate   
    Celibacy is not required to find God. But some groups may practice it because they feel like it creates less distraction so they can devote their lives to God.  Catholic priests and nuns are required to be celibate just as an example. But celibacy in the religion catholicism is not required actually quite the opposite.  Same for certain Buddhist monks etc.  
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