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With these we can understand the signs of enlightened person.
1.
First stage of enlightenment is called as “Shubheccha”.
Here the person wishes to do good things.
2.
2nd stage is called “ Vichaarana”
I.e.here the person interrogates himself about good.
He questions him self- what is really good ,How can it be understood.
3.
3rd stage is “Tanu manasi”
Mind is thin film ,covering the Consciousness of the self.
Ie.the person becomes more thinner ,in the subtle level of mind…!!
How it's possible??!!
This is explained beautifully in Yoga Vaasista by a sanskrit verse.
Like our body becomes fat ,Even mind gets thick or fat because of ego,greed and destractions of indulgence in the wordly pleasures .
Brick is opaque to light
But glass???!!!
Yes ,through thin clear glass light can pass easily.
Similarly when mind gets purified—
When stout ego gets dissolved because of introspection and search for the truth
—worldy pleasures won't remain as a center of attraction.
This is called thinning of mind!!
This stage is called Tanu manasi.
These 3 stages are preparations for enlightenment.
4.
Fourth stage— Here one experiences flashes of lightening. That is-internal flashes of satva guna !!!
—man is called as Brahmavid at this stage.
Satva guna purifies the person so this stage is called as Satvapatti
This is entrace to the palace of Brahman I.e -person has just entered the palace of Brahman !!
Not attained Brahman or enlightenment yet!!
5.
5th stage Is called Asamaskti.
In this stage consciousness of externality of person melts with consciousness of universality.
Usually A person sees sun, moon,stars and other people out side him - Isn’t it??
But in this stage he sees them, i.e moon sun stars and people —all are studded inside him!!!
Even -time and space -are ceased.
This is a stage of detachment from externality and particularity.
This is called Asamasakti.
6.
Sixth stage is called…Padartha Bhaavana
In Quantum physics it's clearly told that matter is nothing but light!!
For example earth is not hard ,stony…but it is filled full with radiating light!!!
Yes !!
In this 6th —hiegher state of enlightenment -Beholder sees hardness solidity of materials melting and person can see only brilliance of radiant light!!
When single Sun rises from east we can see so much light fills in the world.
But in this sixth stage of enlightenment full space is filled with light ..ie not one sun . Radiance of light of several Suns.
This is called By Pathanjali muni ,in his suthra as savikalpa samadhi.
7.
7th and last stage is called as Tureeya-beholder merges with the beholding…
Ie.the enlightened person will merge with radiant light.He also gets the form of light and merges with it.Everything is one..only enlightenment…ie brilliant light everywhere.only light!!!!
This is Absolute enlightenment or Thureeya avastha!! Last stage of enlightenment.
These are seven stages of enlightenment explained in Yoga Vasista

Vaheguru je ka khalsa, vaheguru jeke fateh!!

perhaps we shud read gurbani and read about trikuti and the three guns, and how the gurmukh passes all this into the fourth realm
many yogis can easily open trikuti and use their chakras, etc.
gurbani, and ive read this when doing paat, says that these are nothing but distractions
our dhiaan shud not be on trikuti, only on vaheguru
ure dasma duar will open ITSELF, u can make it open
there are no secrets
only simran and bhagti
we arnt yogis
read wat maharaj je says to yogis in sidh gost
and trkuti isnt dasama duar, by the way
its lower
more commonly referred to as the third eye by gorai
but sikhs dont care bout this
put ure dhiaan on guru jes CHARAN and PYAAR
thas wat matters
ive read so many times where guru je says were tangled in such things as the trai gunas, and the trkuti
there was a shabad i read that actually referred straight to trikuti
even such things as kundlina maharaj je says is raised in the sangat of the sants
if u want ure dasma duar open
read gurbani
follow reighT
THATS ALL U NEED
for more info on wat guru je had to say to yogis, which i see is where on this site many people use the same ideals as yogis, read sidh gost
prehaps we shud get santhia and do sehaj paats
that wud be good for us and we cud learn more about trikuti and trai guns, etc.
there are some that will say how do meditate?
how do u breathe?
how do we walk?
there are somethings we just do
just concentrate on the bani
thas all u need

HOWEVER
reading bani and listening to it with ure ees closed MEANS NOTHING
no matter how much dhiaan
thas like getting the medicnine from the doctor, but not taking it
just like that, u have to listen to gurbani, gurmat katha veechar, keertan, etc.
and mould ure life to that
so we need a coupe of things
prem
sharda
reight
and gurban and simran
dont worry about chakkraas or trikuti or kundalina
just concentrate onn those things above and these things will come themselves
u wont go after them
they come to u
just like riddhi siddhis
but we shdunt even care about trikuti or dasma duar when doing bhagti
wats our main forcus????
raj na chaou
mukat na chaou
man preeth charan kamalarae
bhula chuka maf

Vaheguru je ka khalsa, vaheguru jeke fateh!!

Lol... such a humble reply! But sadly that's.. No use bro! Haters are meant for ninda. They are created for the purpose. There were many at the time of Guruji and there are many rather more today. So no point telling them the truth they don't have 'those' ears to hear .. comprehending Gurbani is a boon these kinds are not meant for ! 

Lol... such a humble reply! But sadly that's.. No use bro! Haters are meant for ninda. They are created for the purpose. There were many at the time of Guruji and there are many rather more today. So no point telling them the truth they don't have 'those' ears to hear .. comprehending Gurbani is a boon these kinds are not meant for ! 

Very nice videos soulfinder veerji. He's right we shouldn't expect. 

Question 8: Sachay Patshah, I have an doubt in my mind so I am confused, please clear it,  I see so many people performing so many types of devotions, each one with fasting, pilgrimages, recitations, pujas, bathing in so called holy waters, etc, so then, among all these devotions/practices, which one is accepted in the Lord´s court/darbar, or should I do all of them when such ocassions arises?
Guru Jee: listen carefully my  dear sikh, 
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਉ ਸਿਮਰਹਿ ਸੇ ਜਨ ਪਰਵਾਨ ॥
Prabh Ko Simarehi Sae Jan Paravaan ||
प्रभ कउ सिमरहि से जन परवान ॥
Only those who do simran/meditate on the Lord, they are approved in His Court.
 
Question 9:  Sachay Patshah, though you stress so much upon Nam throughout the Bani, why is it so that hardly anybody pays attention to it?
Guru Jee : That is because His name is the most precious gem, the jeevas are not to be blamed much about it, for it is not in their hands to do His Simran, because,  it is only by His hukum/grace/mercy, that, those chosen ones, meditate on Him, the rest are occupied in  doing so many other things  which are not my teachings, thus forgetting  or being blind to the Truth of Nam . 
ਸਿਮਰਨ ਤੇ ਲਾਗੇ ਜਿਨ ਆਪਿ ਦਇਆਲਾ ॥
Simaran Thae Laagae Jin Aap Dhaeiaalaa ||
सिमरन ते लागे जिन आपि दइआला ॥
They alone hold to the remembrance of Him, unto whom He Himself shows His Mercy.

Simran Stages
In terms of a layman AJAPA JAAP is the spiritual condition of a person when the Simran goes on an auto pilot mode in your Surat and then in Hirdey and so on as explained below. It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn’t stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani.  The normal sequence is as follows:
 
1. Jaap with Tounge – Rasna – this happens in Dharam Khand
 
2. Jaap with the breathing – with Swaas – this happens in Gyan Khand and Saram Khand
 
3. Then Naam goes into your mind – Surat, in your thinking, then it becomes Simran from Jaap – this is a very good stage – this happens in Saram Khand and Karam Khand – some people go into Smadhi at this stage.
 
4. The next stage is when Simran goes into Hirdey – this one is even much higher stage when Naam goes into Hirdey – this is where it goes on an automatic mode, this is where the real bhagti starts, one goes into Smadhi and Sun Smadhi– Karam Khand  – this is when you go into Smadhi and the real bhagti starts, your bhagti account is opened in the Dargah.
 
5. The next stage is when Simran travels to the Nabhi, when Nabhi Kamal blossoms – Karam Khand
 
6. The next Stage is when Simran goes into Kundlini – Mooladhaar Chakkar and spine – Karam Khand
 
7. The next stage is when Simran travels through the spine to the brain, and back to Surat where it completes the cycle. This is what the real Mala of Naam is.  When this happens then the Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar opens and you form a permanent connection with Akal Purakh, you start to get divine knowledge – Braham Gyan. This happens in Sach Khand.  Enjoyment – Anand in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi is beyond description. That is why the Maha Purakhs go into very deep meditation some time for days together. You experience a lot of things during your Smadhi and Sun Smadhi, see a lot of things, it is beyond description what happens and through what you go when you go into deep meditation. This is the stage when all the doors – Bajjar Kapaat are opened and there is a continuous flow of Amrit, body is always full of Amrit.
 
8. The Simran in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi continues until NIRGUN AND SARGUN becomes one, at this point Simran goes into rom-rom – every bit of your body does Naam Simran, your Suksham Dehi becomes as pure as gold, your entire body is filled with Naam Amrit all the time. You become Braham Leen, and  reach Atal Awastha.  These stages are beyond description. Sat Chit Anand Ghar Hamare – Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhyae – Nirgun Sargun Nirankaar Sun Smadhi Aap, Apan Kia Nanka Apan Hi Fir Jaap and so on.  One lives in Puran Parkash all the time and listens to Ilahi Kirtan – Anhad Naad Dhunis all the time. It is just incredible experience. This is when one becomes Sat Ram Dass and is directed by the Almighty to serve the Sangat. And this is what your target should be when you have been prompted to move on the Bhagti Marg.
 
Following is the benefit sequence:
 
Jaap with Rasna 1000 times  = Jaap in Swaas one time
Jaap in Swaas 1000 times = Simran in Surat one time
Simran in Surat 1000 times = Simran in Hirdey or elsewhere one time
 
So Simran in Hirdey and beyond is the most rewarding one. Again some people might think we are getting into counting the benefit, and it is correct to say that we should not indulge in counting, but it is just a way to make the Sangat understand that which way and where Simran will bring what kind of rewards.
 
The 1000 numbers signify that the rewards of Simran in Hirdey are much higher than doing Jaap with Rasna. If you do Jaap with Rasna  your Rasna will become pavitter – pious, by doing jaap in along breathing – swass your swass will become pious – pavitter, by doing Simran in mind-Surat-Chit- mind will become pious – pavitter, and that is what you need to do to make your mind pious – pavitter, that is how you will have control on your mind – MAN JEETE JAG JEET – MAN TU JYOT SAROOP HAI and you will be able to rise above Panj Doots – KAAM, KRODH, LOBH, MOH, AHANKAAR AND ALSO ASA, TRISHNA, MANSHA, NINDYA, CHUGLI, BAKHILI, RAJ, JOBAN, DHAN, MAAL, ROOP, RAS, GANDH, THESE THUGS – MENTAL SICKNESSES. 
 
And when Simran goes in to Hirdey – and Simran will go to Hirdey by itself with Gurkirpa only, and so in Chit, Hirdey will become pavitter – pious and a pious Hirdey will become Mahaparupkari and Dana Dina, NIRBHAO, NIRVAIR and so on, it will start to absorb all the vital qualities of Akal Purakh and will become a Puran Sant Hirda, and will achieve JIVAN MUKTI – PARAM PADVI-BRAHAM GYAN. 
 
The true definition of a Sant is not by wearing a chola – outside dress and outside rituals, it is the Hirda that becomes Puran Sachyara – completely truthful and that  – HIRDA IS SANT and when the Naam Rattan goes into Hirdey – jad naam rattn Hirdey vich jad da hai taan Braham Gyan di neev rakhi jandi hai ji, so please try to understand it and put it into your daily lives to get Naam Rattan planted in your Hirdey – then naam goes to Nabhi and spine and so on, and again it happens by itself and with Gurkirpa and not by our own efforts, it will happen only under Hukam.
Again higher state of AMRIT IS NAAM AMRIT and – PRABH KA SIMRAN SABH TE UNCHA – HAR SIMRAN ME AAP NIRANKAARA – KINKA EK JIS JEE BASAVE TAKI MAHIMA GANI NAA AAWE – HAR KE NAAM SAMSR KICHU NAAHIN – TUDH BAAJH KUDO KOOD – EH DHAN SANCHO HOWO BHAGWANT, so please try to make your life cleaner, rise above Panj Doots, kill your desires and don’t indulge in Nindya, rise above all the doubts – Dubidha – Dharam De Bharam – follow the Braham Gyan of Gurbani in your daily lives, become a Puran Sachyara – completely truthful person, serve the truth and achieve your goal of Jivan Mukti.
 
As you continue on this path, and as you make more and more progress by following and living according to Gurbani, and Simran is the most important ingradient over here, and you become more and more Sachyara, your Atmik Awastha will keep on moving upwards through the Five Khands.In Sach Khand you reach Chad Di Kala  – this is a very high stage of spirituality, it is the completeness stage, it comes only after reaching the Atal Awastha, means when the soul is always in the Nirlep Awastha, means can’t be distracted or deviated due to any happening around you, doesn’t bring any doubts and bharams in side you concerning the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, it is the highest stage of bandgi, it is the Puran Braham Gyan Stage, Param Padvi Stage, the Sach Khand Stage, when nothing can break you up from the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, when you have completely won over the maya. The soul becomes a single vision, no worldly sukh or dukh can effect it, no animosity with anybody, no effect of ustat or nindya, always absorbed in Almighty, always doing good to others, no harming or hurting of anybody, win over panj doots, desires and maya. This state of Chad Di Kala comes through Naam.  In Gurbani this is what the Satguru’s prayed to God if it is in God’s Will, that Naam Chad di kala be given to EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD FOR THEIR UPLIFMENT.  ‘Nanak Naam Chad di kala. Teray Bhanay Sarbatt Da Bhalla.”   When you are this state you also help others to reach it too.  That is a SANT reason for being in this world.

:-)) Thank you so much Veer.
Also if you find some good read or shabad ( i can japp) on Jeevan Jach or Maya vich kive vicharna then please please mainu dena ji. This detachment concept sounds so good but is too tough for me. 
Waheguru

Waheguru Ji sorry here is the PDF
http://www.gurunanakhealing.com/static/Naam-Di-Vidhi.pdf

Veerji It's not showing anything readable. I will post a screenshot as to how it seems to us. I have tried on 3 different devices.

I think I have read somewhere on this site about OBE that's out of the body experiences and astral travel. Will try n find veerji

Hey. No worries . don't apologize.  its just that we perceive things differently.  🙏

"Eh vis sansaar jo tum dekhde,eh Har ka roop hai Har roop nadri aaya"
Do u see HARR in all?? It's him doing everything. Being a " saakshi" .. That way??
Don't see a psychiatrist my friend be happy. Be thankful and do a mental balle balle. U are on the right track. Rest wise Gurmukhs' will guide of course. @DeNiro @Sat1176 @Lucky @HisServant and others
I wish i get something soon too. Please help me follow you. Thanks for sharing bro.

"Eh vis sansaar jo tum dekhde,eh Har ka roop hai Har roop nadri aaya"
Do u see HARR in all?? It's him doing everything. Being a " saakshi" .. That way??
Don't see a psychiatrist my friend be happy. Be thankful and do a mental balle balle. U are on the right track. Rest wise Gurmukhs' will guide of course. @DeNiro @Sat1176 @Lucky @HisServant and others
I wish i get something soon too. Please help me follow you. Thanks for sharing bro.

And this has confused me even further...
For me its not naada. Just these sounds
Which @Sat1176 ji said was sehaj dhun.. I am on my way with this sound. Last time I was told not to concentrate on it as its just starting. People hear vaaja,/ shankh ,tabla etc.. Now this video says to listen to these or that I am not 'in love' that is why I am not able to listen? Phir main ki karaa  ? Confused head again.   please help! 

Sat Sri Akaal ! all
Thanks so much. I am such a nyaana here that can't even think of commenting anything than just thanking. Just that if I take ur Gurmukhs points as ladder steps, m on step 2 in @ragnarok definition. At 4 on @Sat1176 ji's and 1 on @DeNiro
.. Sunn happens for a very short while n then either I find myself asleep or in thoughts few moments later.
All in all a kiddo here. Seeking all ur Gurmukhs' blessings and Marg darshan. @Luckyji Please be active here.
It brings light to the forum by the presence of Gurmukhs like u all
Thanks again!
 

lol. I was an infant in 76. Watched the movie in late 80's and became a huge fan.  Don't want to go off topic here but a movie is a movie. it can't be classed as gurmat or manmat. The mat is what comes from within the individual as far as I understand.    The only focus you want for "next station" is to be as thoughtless and still as possible, ready to surrender your complete self. (That's my personal suggestion). The sound you hear is positive, and by aiming to surrender in a thoughtless state. is the only way I know to help build the love. Trying to conquer different shabads never helped me but as Bhai saab says in recording you have to aim to "samao" into shabad.   Please persist with patience because amrit drip and illumination of jot should come in this process.  
Stay motivated. I've started re-reading posts on here and listening to recordings in order to motivate myself again. Do whatever it takes to achieve this. 

Hey Sat Sri Akaal all
Thanks so much @Sat1176 and @DeNiro. Shukar hai u all are here. No wonder why SGGS emphasise bso much on satsangat. Will surely work upon this, I understand wat u say @DeNiro ji but u know its human nature to get to know what's my train's next station, to be curious and i feel if I know what's in store for me next , I may get more motivated.
By the way why did u choose  username de Niro? It's not related to gurmat.. Then this taxi driver flick seems older than most of us were born. The kind of person u sound ,there must be a reason if not story .. Would u like to share?

Listen to what you hear. I think it depends on how deep you are within plays and important part in what sound you hear.
Keep gurmatar going softly in the background whist keeping dhyan on the sound you hear.
Some people stick with gurmantar and take themselves very deep before they switch to more distinguishable sounds.

So true. It can never be enough. ( ant na sifti kehan na ant.. )
 

Thank u so much dost ❤️🙏
Yes u r right in getting reminded of the sakhi above. ( it was not just any Sikh ) it was Guru RAMDAS Sahib himself before becoming Guru ( as Bhai Jettha ji) who bought ripe mangoes for Guru Amardas Sahib ji but had to eat them himself remembering his Guru.
But yes got the point.. As they say it's all about jin prem kiyo whatever way that may be expressed... 
Thanks again.
 

No worries, mate
Dhan Dhan Guru Ramdas ji Maharaj.

Thank u so much dost ❤️🙏
Yes u r right in getting reminded of the sakhi above. ( it was not just any Sikh ) it was Guru RAMDAS Sahib himself before becoming Guru ( as Bhai Jettha ji) who bought ripe mangoes for Guru Amardas Sahib ji but had to eat them himself remembering his Guru.
But yes got the point.. As they say it's all about jin prem kiyo whatever way that may be expressed... 
Thanks again.
 

This link works very well.... very clear.... . Though isn't it skeptical.. I mean how can a ghost talk plus get recorded too.. and its a proper interview? . not with Babaji, he's talking to the sangat. There are so many terms that he uses that are as per gurmat. He talks mainly about the importance of Guru and keep on praising Baba Isher Singh ji.. Above everyone else, though if he's that old he may have had the Darshan of 10 Gurus themselves. .. Yeah but hukam of Akaal is more important.. so strange is the game... life , still doubts are a part of my head I guess!

It is not against gurmat, rather the opposite I may add. I heard this sakhi a few years ago where a gursikh (can't remember who exactly) was bringing a mango for Guru ji (again can't remember specifically which of the 10 gurus, but it barely matters here). He ate the mango while remembering Guru ji through his surat. Guru ji was acting as though eating a mango despite holding nothing in his hands. The gursikhs present asked what he was doing and guru ji said he was eating a mango given by a devotee. There is another sakhi where a gursikh holds the Guru's feet through his surat and Guru Hargobind ji (I think it was) couldn't move his feet. 
However, looking at the context of the pankti, it means to serve the lord through constant awareness of pleasing him. I understand how you might have confused it.