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Why is the bridge at Darbar Sahib always covered with a ceiling? When looking at old photos the cover was only put on when it would rain, which is understandable. But now it is there permanently. It takes away the feeling and also defeats the purpose of the Darshani Deodi since you cannot see Darbar Sahib anymore. 

Are there any mahaphurakhs in the uk at the moment that are known of?

If you read 32 daily, you will win every battle you will face (physically or mentally). 108 times is like Chardikala.
This is as far as I know. Just make sure you have sharda. Even 1paath will do if you have sharda.

The only way that we can stop these Missionaries is by reading Bani, learning Sikh history and by becoming Gursikhs. I would recommend the Sangat to watch Basics of Sikhi Why Guru course and the Anti Conversion videos. 
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Chandi Di Vaar is a bani that ,after geting Santhia of Nitnem, they should try to read. Great Gursikhs like Baba Harnam Singh Ji Rampur Kheri wale and Bhai Jeevan Singh Ji Akj read daily

Wahrguru

Missionarys [Christians, Muslims, Fake Godmen Babe, Dere e.t.c.] are infulencing and are converting Sikhs [especialy sikhs who don't know that much about Sikhi]. We need to arm our selfs with knowledge.

The basics are the 5 bania nitnem for Amritwela and then Rehras and Sohela but as you progress in your santhia, you should start reading more and more bania as posible.

I could be wrong

From what I know Mata Sahib Devan was married after the 1699 Amrit Sanchar

kam, you asked:

“Can people put the quotes from differnt sources which do and do not suggest that Mata Sahib Devi was around at the time of the creation of the khalsaâ€

I will reiterate and suggest the people try reading the text highlighted earlier - Sri Guru Sobha by Kavi Sainapati - this is, IMHO, one of the most reliable texts on Sikh history, however one of the most frequently ignored, particularly by modern day groups who like to dwell on Bhangoos Panth Prakash, which is, to frankly call a spade a spade, little more than Jatt propaganda. It also may well be regarded as the Nihang bible, however it is plain to see why given that it provides means to justify many of their supposed traditions and habits, strangely enough never found in any previous texts!

As per your following comment:

“i must remid you of the respect the Sikhs have for that of Mata Sahib Kaur is equivalent to theat of other feminine divens in history such as Lady Fatimah and Miriamâ€

Again, as highlighted above, it is not Mata Sahib Kaur, but Mata Sahib Devi, this insertion of Kaur is purely revisionism which has been discussed at length elsewhere on this forum (from what I recall some 2 – 3 years ago).

Likewise, the placing of Mata Jee on the same level as Lady Fatimah or Miriam is a more recent trend found amongst certain groups as a form of pseudo-feminism in an attempt to highlight contributions of Sikh women and uncannily one used to divert the inherent trend during the 18th and 19th centuries to parallel Mata Sahib with the Devi Durga, wherein certain segments of the Sikh populace under the influence of authors like Bhangoo chose to ape other tribal customs of those they regarded as warriors, namely the Rajputs and adopted a whole host of habits which were equally revisionist in view of the political climate at that time.

What I find particularly interesting is that all of these revisionist attempts fail to highlight more apparent issues such as Mata Jee correctly being regarded as the Mother of the Khalsa (whether she was there placing patashas or not has no bearing on her position as our Mother, which she undoubtedly is) however she was never in any armed combat and never went to battle, which is something that is overtly ignored when it comes to discussing Sikh women in the pathetic bid to control them through the enforcement of rigid dress codes and other means under the guise of ‘equality’ as part of the pseudo-feminist stance that supporters of such thought use as a means of justification.

Similarly, the roles of Mata Kivi Jee are frequently under represented, however the rise in popularity of Mai Bhago as the one defining role model of Sikh women is unsurprisingly one which is closely linked to more modern politically motivated agendas.

The same is also true of many modern Sikh heroes who have only risen to popularity in modern times, including some large household names, such as Baba Deep Singh, who when one scans historical texts is not someone mentioned as frequently as say, Bhai Sukha Singh or Mehtab Singh for instance.

Again, none of this lessens the contribution or respect one has for say Baba Deep Singh or Mai Bhago, however it appears only natural that with the passage of time, that certain aspects, figures, doctrines etc will be emphasised more than others, however the role of ‘silent evidence’ and ‘hindsight bias’ is something that historians and all of us need to consider in our assessments.

For the record, the above are only my current observations and by no means intended to be authoritative/final in any way, just items for discussion and/or thought, bottom line is as outlined at outset, differences found in texts do not invalidate the concept or practice of the Amrit Sanchar nor does the discrepancies on Mata Jee’s presence in any way lessen respect for her as our mother.

Regards,

Niranjana.

This is probably correct 

I could be wrong

Think so. I'll check the Khalsa Moolmantar in the Budha Dal Sundar Gutka. Even if this Nand Singh was not a part of the Panj Mukte, It's most likely it's another singh than the Nanaksar wale Mahapurkh.

I could be wrong

This is probably correct 

I think a Nand Singh was one of the first 5 nirmalas.

Yeah I was also thinking this. But still I wouldn't have been surprised if it was Nanaksar waale Mahapurakh only.

This a different Nand Singh to the Nanaksar wale Mahapurkh. This Nand Singh was a part of the Panj Mukte (first people to be blessed with amrit after the Panj Pyare).

This a different Nand Singh to the Nanaksar wale Mahapurkh. This Nand Singh was a part of the Panj Mukte (first people to be blessed with amrit after the Panj Pyare).

Yes, interesting.

I have read articles written 90 years ago (by an Akali) which refer to Suraj-Vansia Khalsa Panth.

I have also heard old Dhadi songs using this term in pride.

There is no doubting the Hindu-phobia - Niranjanas stance is quite correct - we need to preserve and use our heritage to advantage (this requires calm and cunning/strategy) rather than pull the cheap shiny tulwars out everytime someone mentions something that doesn't fit into their little box world.

It's mostly cultists that start sentences off with "Bhai Randhir Singh said this   .... " or "Gursikhs like Bhai Randhir Singh were .... " etc.
But "Purataan Singhs like Bhai Randhir Singh" is a new one. 
Seriously??
And is over a a century enough to be a Purataan Singh? Cultists throw around his name as if he is their Guru or something?!? Is this the way you guys start discussions? 

I have read that there is saroops without Ragamala aswell. I don't know which saroops they are. But the majority of saroops and especially ones signed by maharaj has Raagamala in.
The saroop Ram Rai took to Delhi and from which the pangti mitti musalman ki was questioned from also has Raagmala. This saroop is now at Dera Dun. There is another handwritten saroop there with Raagmala in.
a Saroop at Varanasi with Guru Tegh Bahadur jis signature also has Raagmala. 
The Damdama Sahib Saroop has Raagmala. 
There is over 15 hand written sarooops around The area of Varanasi with Raagmala in. 

The whole of sant samaj which had more than 50 Sants all believed in Raag Mala.