Ragmaala

Quite a few live simran session videos with Baba ji.

literal meaning: these poisonous sprouts

The message, acc. to my interpretation, is that indulging in lustful pleasures is like eating poisonous sprouts coated with sugar.

I also have provided other translations from Prof. Sahib Singh & Faridkot Wala Teeka. In my current existential reality I could care less who has more lust, male or female, I just have to worry about myself first.

WJKK WJKF

It actually doesn't mean womaniser ?
It's because the message is as if, God is telling Farid about the body pleasures....but the message has NO differentiation between Man's or Women's pleasures !

Can paapiman actually think for himself, or does he have to rely on what someone else has written ?
Isn't that called 'blind faith' ?

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਏ ਵਿਸੁ ਗੰਦਲਾ ਧਰੀਆਂ ਖੰਡੁ ਲਿਵਾੜਿ ॥ फरीदा ए विसु गंदला धरीआं खंडु लिवाड़ि ॥ Farīḏā e vis ganḏlā ḏẖarī▫āʼn kẖand livāṛ. Farid! These pleasures are the poisonous sprouts, coated with sugar. ਏ = ਇਹ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਪਦਾਰਥ। ਵਿਸੁ = ਜ਼ਹਿਰ। ਖੰਡੁ ਲਿਵਾੜਿ = ਖੰਡ ਨਾਲ ਗਲੇਫ਼ ਕੇ। ਹੇ ਫਰੀਦ! ਇਹ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਪਦਾਰਥ (ਮਾਨੋ) ਜ਼ਹਿਰ-ਭਰੀਆਂ ਗੰਦਲਾਂ ਹਨ, ਜੋ ਖੰਡ ਨਾਲ ਗਲੇਫ਼ ਰੱਖੀਆਂ ਹਨ।
ਇਕਿ ਰਾਹੇਦੇ ਰਹਿ ਗਏ ਇਕਿ ਰਾਧੀ ਗਏ ਉਜਾੜਿ ॥੩੭॥ इकि राहेदे रहि गए इकि राधी गए उजाड़ि ॥३७॥ Ik rāheḏe rėh ga▫e ik rāḏẖī ga▫e ujāṛ. ||37|| Some die sowing sins and some are ruined, reaping and enjoying them. ਇਕਿ = ਕਈ ਜੀਵ। ਰਾਹੇਦੇ = ਬੀਜਦੇ। ਰਹਿ ਗਏ = ਥੱਕ ਗਏ, ਮੁੱਕ ਗਏ, ਮਰ ਗਏ। ਰਾਧੀ = ਬੀਜੀ ਹੋਈ। ਉਜਾੜਿ = ਉਜਾੜ ਕੇ, ਨਿਖਸਮੀ ਛੱਡ ਕੇ ॥੩੭॥ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਗੰਦਲਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕਈ ਬੀਜਦੇ ਹੀ ਮਰ ਗਏ ਤੇ, ਬੀਜੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ (ਵਿਚੇ ਹੀ) ਛੱਡ ਗਏ ॥੩੭॥

Simple message is that "The body that enjoys these bodily pleasures will die"
The pleasures of love that you can have for the lord, are eternal.

literal meaning: these poisonous sprouts

The message, acc. to my interpretation, is that indulging in lustful pleasures is like eating poisonous sprouts coated with sugar.

I also have provided other translations from Prof. Sahib Singh & Faridkot Wala Teeka. In my current existential reality I could care less who has more lust, male or female, I just have to worry about myself first.

WJKK WJKF

What does it matter who has more lust?
Real question is how much we have ,and what are we doing to get rid of it.

This human body regardless of male or female is disgusting as per Gurbani. This is to break our attachment from the body and look past the outer beauty.

But at the same time Gurbani teaches us that this body is a great vehicle to meet God, so we should make sure it is healthy.

According to me, eh vis gandala, just means a way to break attachment to body.

Satkirin,
if you follow SRM, obviosuly that does not make you a lesser sikh. you should choose whatever works for you, in the longer run these minor things wont make a big difference.

I am very open to letting individuals do their own thing. I really do believe that every Sikh Human Being is different. What works for one person might not work for another. So we should let people choose whatever minor path they like within the Core Sikhi. I believe in diversity in Sikhism.

I only hate those people who want to tamper around with the integrity of Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth and do nindya of Sants. These people I cannot tolerate. Everyone else if good.

Too right bro!
You have to practice and experience the Truth by practical approaches per self and per soul.
It's no good debating and arguing the truth if you've never even made the decent efforts to try and merge with Sat....to experience His presence....to feel his divine love...
When you do it with your truest intentions...you will automatically rise above these debates and arguments....you will rise above both Ustat and Nindya.......you will realize just how much life and breaths you have wasted arguing over what you thought was the truth.
You will realize just how clever those 'peredhaar'....the panj dhuts, kram, krodh, lobh, moh,and ahankar are in the trickery they use to fool you!

You can waste your whole life praising and debating over the glories of your jatha, but it won't take you anywhere near the Truth, unless you try and practice it.

Does the truth, the Sat...talk and justify itself ?
or do the 5 dhuts, the peredhaars of your mind... fool you so well into thinking that they are the truth?

You know guys..... sikhi is about finding this out for yourselves....per individual person...per soul.

As harsharan mentioned, the shabd guru will always stay the same...forever.


However the differences amongst the jathas will always stay the same. but the Guru is the same.
no two humans are on the same spiritual level.
those who are wise will never fight, even if they have different views.

as other posters have mentioned, keep collecting the good qualities , ignore the bad ones or the ones you dont like, avoid useless arguments unless its really required, march fwd, have a balance attitude towards what you can change and what you cannot.

Satkirin,
if you follow SRM, obviosuly that does not make you a lesser sikh. you should choose whatever works for you, in the longer run these minor things wont make a big difference.

I am very open to letting individuals do their own thing. I really do believe that every Sikh Human Being is different. What works for one person might not work for another. So we should let people choose whatever minor path they like within the Core Sikhi. I believe in diversity in Sikhism.

I only hate those people who want to tamper around with the integrity of Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth and do nindya of Sants. These people I cannot tolerate. Everyone else if good.

Dudes gonna die soon with either cirrhosis, pancreatitis or kidney or heart failure.
its kinda painful to watch..

I am glad Guru Ji strictly kept us away from all these toxic substances...waheguru..

Dudes gonna die soon with either cirrhosis, pancreatitis or kidney or heart failure.
its kinda painful to watch..

I am glad Guru Ji strictly kept us away from all these toxic substances...waheguru..

Did this picture.

 

I'm happy to share so here goes:

Last night before I went to sleep I was reading SGGS and the house was very quiet. Mrs is away so no snoring in my ears. lol. When it's quiet this whistling sound manifests itself. I can hear the sound coming from the right side. This time not only was there a whistling sound but a second beat like a drum. How I wish I was a musician so i could replicate what I was hearing. It was weaker than the whistle but I could definately make it out. Really freaked me out at first. Have never heard that sound before.

I spoke to a naam abhiyaasi mahapursh about it who said I was on the right track but I shouldn't focus on the sound yet. He said I need to remain focused on my naam simran and learn to still my thoughts. Also for the past few weeks the saliva in my mouth has been feeling extremely sweet. So much so that its actually becoming really difficult to tolerate. When I do simran it flows more and more. I'm still skeptical about what I'm experiencing because I feel I'm not actually putting in that much effort. Although some days are better than others.

Waheguru Mere Bharaya Hath Rakhe and bless me with his Naam...

I think this will help those who are advanced.
Also apparently ,the sounds are heard from right ear, because Pinagal Nadi is on that side.

Excellent read!

http://sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection&section_id=1722&parent=640&format=html

Lights in Meditation
Various kinds of lights manifest during meditation owing to concentration. In the beginning, a bright white light, the size of a pin's point will appear in the forehead in the Trikuti, the space between the two eyebrows, which corresponds tentatively to the Ajna-Chakra of the astral body. You will notice, when the eyes are closed, different coloured lights, white, yellow, red, smoky, blue, green, mixed lights, flashes like lightning, like fire, burning char-coal, fire-flies, moon, sun, stars. These lights appear in the mental space, Chidakasa. These are all Tanmatric lights. Each Tanmatra has its own specific colour. Prithvi (earth) Tanmatra has a yellow-coloured light; Apas (water) Tanmatra has a white-coloured light; Agni (fire) Tanmatra has a red-coloured light; Vayu (wind) Tanmatra has a smoky light; Akasa (sky) Tanmatra has a blue light. Yellow and white lights are very commonly seen. Red and blue lights are rarely noticeable. Frequently there is a combination of white and yellow lights. In the beginning, small balls of white light float about before the mind's eye. When you first observe this, be assured that the mind is becoming more steady and that you are progressing in concentration. After some months, the size of the light will increase and you will see a full blaze of white light, bigger than the sun. In the beginning, these lights are not steady. They come and disappear immediately. They flash out from above the forehead and from the sides. They cause peculiar sensations of extreme joy and happiness and there is an intense desire for a vision of these lights. When you have steady and systematic practice of two or three hours in the morning, and two to three hours at night, these lights appear more frequently and remain steadily for a long time. The vision of the lights is a great encouragement in Sadhana. It impels you to stick steadily to meditation. It gives you strong faith also in superphysical matters. The appearance of the light denotes that you are transcending the physical consciousness. You are in a semi-conscious state when the light appears. You are between two planes. You must not shake the body when these lights manifest. You must be perfectly steady in the Asana. You must breathe very, very slowly.
TRIANGLE (LIGHT) IN THE FACE
One whose food is moderate, whose anger has been controlled, who has given up all love for society, who has subdued his passions, who has overcome all pairs (heat and cold, etc.), who has given up his egoism, who does not bless anyone nor take anything from others-such a man during meditation obtains it (the triangle) in the face.
LIGHT FROM SUSHUMNA
"Vishoka Va Jyotismati." (Chap. I, Sutra 36. Patanjali- Yoga-Sutras). "You can attain Samadhi by meditation on the Effulgent One Who is beyond all sorrow."
Sometimes, during meditation you will see a brilliant dazzling light. You will find it difficult to gaze on this light. You will be compelled to withdraw your mental vision from this light. This dazzling light is the light emanating from the Sushumna in the heart.
FORMS IN THE LIGHTS
You will see two kinds of forms (1) lustrous forms of Devatas, (2) physical forms. You will see your Ishta Devata or tutelary deity (guiding Devata) in handsome dress and with various, valuable ornaments, flowers, garlands, with four hands and weapons. Siddhas, Rishis, etc., appear to encourage you. You will find a huge collection of Devatas and celestial ladies with various musical instruments in their hands. You will see beautiful flower-gardens, fine palatial buildings, rivers, mountains, golden temples, sceneries so lovely and picturesque as cannot be adequately described.
DAZZLING LIGHTS
Sometimes, during meditation, you will get very powerful, dazzling lights, bigger than the sun. They are white. In the beginning, they come and fade away quickly. Later on, they are steady, they become fixed for 10 or 15 minutes or half an hour according to the strength and degree of concentration. For those who concentrate on the Trikuti, the space between the two eyebrows, the light appears in the forehead in the Trikuti, while for others who concentrate on the top of the head, Sahasrara Chakra, the light manifests on the top of the head. The light is so powerful and dazzling sometimes, that you have to withdraw yourself from looking at it and break the meditation. Some people are afraid and do not know what to do and how to proceed further. They come to me for instructions. I tell them that this is a new sensation which they have not hitherto experienced. By constant practice, the mind engaged in concentration will be used to it, and the fear will vanish. I ask them to go on with the practice. Some people concentrate on the heart, some on Trikuti, and some on the top of the head. It is a question of personal taste. It is easy to control mind by concentrating on the Trikuti. If you are used to fix on the Trikuti, stick to it always. Do not make frequent changes. Steadiness is very necessary. The beings and objects with whom you are in touch during the early period of meditation belong to the astral world. They are similar to human beings minus a physical overcoat. They have desires, cravings, love, hatred, etc., just as human beings have. They have fine bodies. They can move about freely. They have powers of materialisation, dematerialisation, multiplying, clairvoyant vision of an inferior order. The lustrous forms are higher Devatas of mental or higher planes who come down to give you Darshan, and encourage you. Various Saktis manifest in lustrous forms. Adore them. Worship them. Do mental Puja as soon as they give you Darshan. Angels are beings of mental or higher planes. They also appear before your mind's eye.
Sometimes, you will feel an invisible help, possibly from your Ishta Devata when you are actually pushed from the physical body into the new plane. That invisible power assists in your separating from the body and going above body-consciousness. You will have to mark carefully all these operations.
Do not waste your time in looking at these visions. This is only a curiosity. These are all encouragements to convince you of the existence of superphysical, metaphysical realities and the solid existence of Brahman. Drive these pictures. Fix yourself on the goal-Lakshya. Advance. Proceed seriously and energetically.
As soon as you retire for sleep, these lights manifest themselves without any exertion on your part. Just when you are going to transcend the physical consciousness, just when you are drowsy, these lights appear without your effort. Also in the morning, before you get up, in the transitional stage, half-asleep, half-awake, you will get again these lights by themselves without attempt.
Sometimes, during meditation, you will see an infinite blue sky, ethereal space. You will see yourself in the blue space as a black dot. Your form will appear in the centre of the light sometimes. Sometimes, you will notice highly vibratory, rotating particles in the light. You will see physical forms, human forms, children, women, adult males, Rishis with beards, Siddhas and lustrous Tejomaya forms. Visions are either subjective or objective, your own mental reactions or of realities on finer planes of matter. Universe consists of planes of matter of various grades of density. Rhythmical vibrations of Tanmatras in various degrees, give rise to the formation of various planes. Each plane has its things and beings. Visions may be of these things or beings. They may be purely imaginary. They may be crystalisation of your own intense thinking. You must discriminate in Yogic practices. Reason and common-sense must be used throughout.

Encourage japp as much as possible, by this, I mean physcial japp by as many of the sangat around.
I know a lot of people say to have sukhmani sahib or gurbani playing 24/7...but in addition to this I strongly suggest attempts to do physical jap.
It just takes that ONE instance where the surti can attach to it completely like a magnet.
You know yourself from experience, that when the naad begins to resonate, it's not after any specific number of japs or any thing to do with the length of time you jap,,...but it just happens when that instance occurs....like 2 magnets meeting at their poles...It could just be that split second or two..but that's all it takes.

Couple this with the suggestion of ''apan kya nanaka apey fir jaap''.... Is also a very good idea.

This is my awesome picture that I recently drew.. Hopefully you guys like it..
http://images.clipartpanda.com/sad-girl-stick-figure-image.png

The reason Sants say certain things in a certain context directed towards specific people are because they want to teach the disciples until they are on their own and mature enough and can avoid downfalls.
LIving life as a student in a jatha, as a Bihangam or a householder are quite different.

Guys , please before we start claiming saints said this and that and claiming they are wrong.

Please try to understand the crowd which above discourse is addressed to and reason for saint discourse..It's from celibacy point of view for celibates and their life style. Thats a right discourse as its meant to be properly contextualized to only celibates.

Take on Kaam is quite different from gristhi (marriage house holder) life style.

Its not just photography I also sketch quite a lot. For photography though I use the standards.... Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop. That chipmunk though is as shot. The Ladakh Kashmir mountains were shot in HDR. Here are a couple sketches I have done.. I only have a couple accessible at work right now haha. The second was actually at a restaurant just drawing on the table lol.

I am not sure if this resonates with her. If it resonates with her its its great but according to sant gyani gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale gurbani katha at the time close of releasing the body its been advise to recite or do jaap of sargun nirgun nirankar sun samadhi aap, apan kiya nanaka ape fir jaap || shalok just in hopes thats surat of individual who is passing away can latch on to gurbani mahavak- sargun nirgun nirankar sun samadhi aap, apan kiya nanaka ape fir jaap || which will give person mukhti- liberation- free from this world samsara-suffering-cycle of birth and death.

omg ^ tell everyone around her to keep japping Waheguru , also keep photos of Guru Nanak wherever she stays.

My grandmother was very emotional, sensitive, tears flowing , calling her relatives and myself often, always looking for someone's company in her last month of life.
In her last week of life, she went to the hospital, was restless, and also saw beings in the hospital room and highway. She would tell my aunt who are these people walking around,, dont you see them ? for her it was real human beings present, she didnt know the difference.
And her last day she was at home, but quite peaceful and calm. She still had the plate of food in her hands when she left the physical body.


So this is an experience of many people who are about to leave, that they see beings. So you must talk to her , and let others know too...it might be her last days , and ask everyone to recite Gurbani and Waheguru Jaap.