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Has anyone considered that if Dasam Granth Sahib Ji was "female bashing", what about Chandi Charitar and Chandi Di Vaar? Is Chandi/Durga not female? 
Pritham BHAGAUTI Simarke? 
What about Sri Bhagauti Astotar?
Namo Sri BHAGAUTI Badheli Sarohi.
And Sri Sarbloh Granth starts with Sri Lachmi/Maha May Sahai.
All in the female context of Shakti. 

Mate. I don't think you've got a clue about what is going on in England.

The people who are supposed to be upholding the law - the politicians and police - seem pretty lax about it when it comes to things outside their own interests.

Have you not noticed the illegal wars and covering up of pedophilia and grooming? Some of which emanates from the very top echelons of the power/government here!

N30, some of us here love you to bits for your unparalleled, brave, open minded/hearted hosting of a forum. But brother seriously - can't you see how deep the corruption runs in some of our very own governments?

Get a bit more streetwise brother.

Interesting to note that the Damdami Taksal also consider the concept of multiple wives amongst the Sodhibans Sikh Gurus to be true...

from: http://www.damdamitaksal.com/his_gurus.htm

Satguru Hargobind Sahib Jee (Sodh lineage) wives: Mata Damodari Jee, Mata Nanaki Jee, Mata Marvahi Jee

Satgur Har Rai Sahib Jee (Sodh lineage) wives: Mata Krishan Kaur Jee, Mata Chand Kaur Jee, Mata Ram Kaur Jee, Mata Kaut Kalyani Jee, Mata Thoki Jee, Mata Anokhi Jee, Mata Ladho Jee, Mata Prem Kaur Jee

Satguru Gobind Singh Jee (Sodh lineage) wives: Mata Ajit Kaur Jee, Mata Sunder Kaur Jee, Mata Sahib Kaur Jee

Information on Mata Sahib Kaur jee's previous life.
http://kam1825.podbean.com/e/mata-sahib-kaurs-previous-life/
 
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With this background, here are the 9 basic rating scales from the PBCAT that will allow you to detect when you're being told a lie:
Leaves out sensory details. A liar skips many of the little flourishes that embellish stories told by honest people. These are harder to keep straight later, so he or she just leaves them out. Someone telling the truth might mention what music was playing in the background or what color the flowers on the table were. A liar will try to be as incomplete as possible on details, including time, because these are difficult to construct and then keep consistent to in later renditions of the story. Admits frequently to faulty memory. People telling the truth don’t have that much trouble remembering a true event, situation, or occurrence. They lived it, so it comes pretty easily to them. Liars, however, will give themselves the “excuse” of having a poor memory when, in reality, it’s only the lies they’re having trouble recalling. Makes spontaneous corrections. Because liars have to backtrack so much, they will edit heavily their stories: “Her name was Lily, no it was Lisa, wait, maybe it was Linda.” You don’t have to keep an exact count of how many of these occur in a person’s speech, but if they happen often enough for you to notice, the individual is probably covering something up. Keeps it short and vague. The longer, more complete, and spelled out a story is, the more likely it is to be true. Again, telling a lie or a string of lies takes more effort because it means that you have to create an entire scenario out of your head. Brevity may be “the soul of wit,” but it’s also the soul of a lie. Doesn't make sense and is full of contradictions. By now, if you’re catching on, it should be clear that a true story will hang together better than a string of lies. Returning to the case of the shirt, it’s quite likely that clothing from a more expensive store will look more expensive. If what you’re seeing doesn’t fit with what you know to be the case, it’s very likely that you’re not being told the truth. Seems to be thinking hard. If your speaker seems to be unsure or, worse, to be putting a great deal of effort into coming up with a plausible account of events, this is a cue that the his or her cognitive load is mounting. Obviously people telling the truth may have difficulty remembering past events, but especially if an event wasn’t that long ago, and was of some significance, they should not seem to be sweating over every sentence they relate. If you ask your partner how his or her last relationship ended, that person should be reasonably sure. As time goes on, a partner who's lied about that breakup will have to work even harder to keep the details consistent with other things you learn about that past relationship. Is nervous, tense, and fidgety. It takes a great liar to be able to pull off a string of falsehoods without looking at least a little anxious. (In fact, that’s one of the cues to suggest that someone might be a psychopath.) Someone telling the truth will seem relaxed—maybe not happy, but at least not especially uncomfortable, assuming the story they're telling isn’t a painful one. Makes few complaints or negative comments. This seems counterintuitive, but it makes sense that someone trying to create a good impression would want to be positive. People high in the desire to impress others try to cover up their own negative reactions so you’ll like them (and believe them). Talks unusually slowly. The speech of a truth-teller is reasonably normal, but people who are lying tend to take quite a bit longer as they self-edit, try to be consistent, and leave out negative commentaries. We hear about “fast-talking salespersons,” but rather than lying specifically, those characters may simply be trying to confuse you. Besides, a salesperson may be able to talk quickly when reciting a well-rehearsed lie, but a lying lover will probably proceed with greater caution in retelling fictional tales of his or her past. Unquote[1]
[1] - https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201407/9-ways-tell-whos-lying-you
 
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Excellently said, thanks for showing me the mirror:
Knowledge is of no use, if it is not felt and applied. Just like: Carrying a bag of heavy food on the back won't put off our hunger, it is just a heavy baggage which can only help to get some admirers who are hungry for knowledge and one would get ego boost from that. In other words, knowledge is a burden unless felt and applied, and when its done it proves to be a boon. Once again the guidance of real Saints is proven who can point us our mistakes because we're even bound to misunderstood the meanings of Gurbani.......Mind is Mahabali.

ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਗੁਰੂ ਥੇ ਬਹੁ ਬਨਵਾਏ। ਜਾਨੌ ਜਿਤਿਕ ਨਾਮ ਦਿਹੁੰ ਗਾਏ। 73 ।

ਪਰਬ ਅਠਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਰਥ ਕੇਰੇ। ਭਾਖਾ ਕਰੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੇਰੇ।

ਤਿਨ ਮੈਂ ਸੇ ਹੈਂ ਦਸ ਪ੍ਰਸਿਧੈਂ। ਆਠ ਲੋਪ ਹੋਏ ਕਿਸਿ ਬਿਧੈਂ। 74 ।

ਜੋ ਪਟਲੇਸ਼੍ਵਰ ਅਬਿ ਬਨਵਾਏ। ਕਰੇ ਅਠਾਰਾਂ ਪੂਰੇ ਸਾਏ।

ਪੁਨ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਇਕ ਕਥਾ। ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਸੁਮਾਰਗ ਔਰੈਂ ਤਥਾ। 75 ।

ਨੀਤੀ ਸਾਗਰ ਥਾ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ਾ। ਉਪਨਿਸ਼ਦਾਂ ਕੀਨੀ ਥੀਂ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ।

ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗੀਤਾ ਔਰ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਖੀ। ਯਹਿ ਸਭਿ ਸੁਨੀ ਵਡਨ ਤੈ ਸਾਖੀ। 76 ।

ਗੁਰੁ ਕੇ ਰਚੇ ਸਿਖ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਨੈਂ। ਸਾਚ ਝੂਠ ਸਭਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਹੀ ਜਾਨੈ।

ਇਤ੍ਯਾਦਿਕ ਬਹੁ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਰਚਾਏ। ਥੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਹਮ ਸੁਨਯੋ ਮਹਾਂਏ। 77 ।
 

Hazur sahib is a must. Go and meet sant baba narinder Singh and try getting Darshan of sant baba Kulwant singh. Jathedar baba prem Singh budha dal is half an hour away from takhat Sri hazur sahib.

hahahaa
 
But I view married life as below :

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"How far would you go to stand up for human rights? In India, on the 16th January 2015 an 83yr old lifelong political activist went on hunger strike to force the Indian Government to free several political prisoners. He has now been hungry for over 500 days... Some continue to be detained long beyond completion of their sentence. Some have been tortured and falsely imprisoned. Others are arrested and just seem to disappear... This is the story of Surat Singh Khalsa, and his Hunger for Humanity."
Sangat Ji, ik benti,
In January 2016, UK based Documentary and Film Production Company GraySkull Media, managed to get an exclusive and secret interview with Bapu Surat Singh Khalsa. Efforts are currently underway to raise funds for the production of a documentary.
Once the film is complete, if there are any profits made whatsoever from any sale of the film to a distributor or sponsor, the production team at GraySkull Media pledges 100% of the profits after production costs are paid, to the bereaved families of the 1984 Sikh Genocide and 2 other Human Rights charities, which will be selected by the family of Bapu Surat Singh Khalsa.
Please share the link below and donate so we can show the world the activism and struggle of Bapu Surat Singh.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hunger-for-humanity-bapu-surat-singh-khalsa-india#/
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@Manrajsingh - Bro, in addition to Rehab, Yoga, counselling, sangat of Gurmukhs, etc, please request your dad to recite the following shabad, according to the vidhi mentioned below.
 


 
Ref: Satguru Shabad Sidhi Bhandar
 
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One day Sankara was returning with his disciples from the temple of Viswanath after a bath in the Ganga. A Chandala (outcaste), followed by four dogs, appeared before him. Sankara asked him to clear away from the path. The Chandala with a smile asked him, ‘Whom are you asking to move away? The soul or the body? Your soul, my soul and every other soul in the world are all one. There is no impurity in the soul. It is just like the moon reflected in a pot of Ganga water or in a can of liquor. The moon will not become impure by its reflection.  Or do you want the body to move? Without the soul the mere body is inert. It cannot move. And moreover, for a Sannyasin what is caste, purity and impurity?’
 Sankara was taken aback by this bombshell of a question by the Chandala. He prostrated himself at the feet of the Chandala for teaching him such a great truth. But the Chandala vanished and in his place there stood Lord Viswanath. The Lord had come in the form of a Chandala to teach Sankara that distinctions like Brahmana, Chandala etc. are only for the narrow-minded. The Lord blessed Sankara and disappeared.
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[1] - http://belurmath.org/kids_section/06-lord-siva-as-chandala/
 
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Also this:
Leitner in the 1880s wrote a book on Sikh education, and wrote the following:
'If a disciple wished to advance from studentship to fellowship, and become a Bhai ... he had to study the two Granths [Adi Guru and Dasam Granth], the Gurmukhi Grammar, Pingal (Prosody in Gurmukhi), Itihas (a Sikh application of the term to history), and arithmetic, and the elements of Sanscrit. The above were the compulsory subjects, but, if he wished to reach a higher grade, he would study the Niaya system of logic, the Vedanta and the Pratigant, which are all to be found in a translated or adopted form in Gurmukhi.
Highest of all, however, ranked the "Gyani", the "I'rfan", who could explain the mysteries of philosophy and religion in popular language, and would communicate them, as a preacher, to the people, thus showing that the essence of Sikhism is the popularization of knowledge'.

Some notes i've done earlier:
Bhai Ram Singh was a contemporary of Mahraja Ranjit Singh and had a flourishing school to which students from distant parts of Northern India flocked and took lessons in the higher departments of learning such as the philosophy of Gurbani, prosody and poetry writing, grammar, literature and literary criticism, history, politics etc. Bhai Kharak Singh Dhupia taught the same subjects at his school in Amritsar as did Bawa Amir Das Udasi and Budh Singh who furthermore translated a Persian book from Akbar’s times on politics.
Bhai Juna Singh was a granthi at Amritsar during the Khalsa Raj. He was known in his times as a great master who taught arithmetic, mathematics, grammar, poetry and the content of the Puranas from his home. Bhai Buddha, another contemporary, was one of the most successfull translators of Sanskrit works into Gurmukhi. Baba Ganga Ram also translated and adopted Sanskrit grammar into Gurmukhi.
Bhai Juna Singh was a granthi at Amritsar during the Khalsa Raj. He was known in his times as a great master who taught arithmetic, mathematics, grammar, poetry and the content of the Puranas from his home. Bhai Buddha, another contemporary, was one of the most successfull translators of Sanskrit works into Gurmukhi. Baba Ganga Ram also translated and adopted Sanskrit grammar into Gurmukhi.
 
All of the above scholars were patroned by the Khalsa Raj. They were all put out of business and harassed by the British government when they took over Punjab as they resumed and cancelled the government funding of these higher institutions of Sikh and secular learning.

Sister, if you go to Delhi, aside from visiting the great gurudwaras (Sri Bangla Sahib, Sri Sis Ganj Sahib, Sri Raqab Ganj Sahib, etc), try to meet Srimaan Sant Baba Gurdev Singh jee Maharaaj (Head of Nanaksar Samprada).
Other Saints you can try to meet:
Vidya Martand Srimaan 108 Sant Gyani Mohan Singh jee Khalsa Bhindranwale (he is the vidya ustad of Gyani Inderjit SIngh jee Raqbewale) Sant Pandit Jagjit Singh jee Harkhowal Sant Baba Mohinder Pratap Singh jee  
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On punishments

A Sardar, a German and a Pakistani got arrested consuming alcohol which is a severe offence in Saudi Arabia, so for the terrible crime they are all sentenced 20 lashes each of the whip.

As they were preparing for their punishment, the Sheik announced:
"It's my first wife's birthday today, and she has asked me to allow each of you one wish before your whipping."

The German was first in line; he thought for a while and then said: "Please tie a pillow to my back."

This was done, but the pillow only lasted 10 lashes & the German had to be carried away bleeding and crying with pain.

The Pakistani was next up. After watching the German in horror he said smugly: "Please fix two pillows to my back."

But even two pillows could only take 15 lashes & the Pakistani was also led away whimpering loudly.

The Sardar was the last one up, but before he could say anything, the Sheikh turned to him and said:

"You are from a most beautiful part of the world and your culture is one of the finest in the world. For this, you may have two wishes!"

"Thank you, your Most Royal and Merciful Highness," Sardar replied.

"In recognition of your kindness, my first wish is that you give me not 20, but 100 lashes."

"Not only are you an honorable, handsome and powerful man, you are also very brave." The Sheikh said with an admiring look on his face.

"If 100 lashes is what you desire, then so be it" And what is your second wish?" the Sheikh asked.

Sardar smiled and said, "Tie the Pakistani to my back" !!!
"SINGH IS KING"....."

Bhagat Sadhna j iwas a butcher and he was enlightened.

However Bhai Gurdas ji warns that just because Sadhna ji was a butcher doesn't mean you should become one too.

Amrit destroys all Castes, all Amritdhari are casteless, if you are going to be proud of anything, be proud you have Mata Sahib Kaur as a Mother and Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj as a father. Be proud your brother Baba Deep Singh Ji fought decapitated against an overwhelming army, be proud that your sister Mata Bhag Kaur Ji who rallied troops and brought them back into the fold of Sikhi. 
 
Those are what we should be proud of.

Bro, we can possibly keep discussing this topic for days, but IMHO, it might be a waste of time.  If one claims that Jatts contributed greatly to the Panth, it makes sense, but then one will also have to agree that they have caused massive damage too. Tyrants (of Jatt origin) have possibly killed hundreds of thousands of Sikhs.
If you are born in a Sikh family, you should be proud of Gurbani, Sikh Satgurus, saints, warriors, martyrs, scholars, ethics, values, principles, history, morals, etc. Your ancestral pride should be for all Sikhs, who came from various castes/races.
When a person become a Sikh (by taking Khanday da amrit), his race/caste is Khalsa. He is above all castes/races.
 
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All Punjabis suffered heavily from foreign rule and invasions. It is mostly Jatts and Chamars who sing songs of their bravery. They need to realize that it was the Sikh Satgurus, who turned us into warriors and they should sing their glories.
 
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Everyone knows that June 27 is celebrated as International Husband Day.
But do you know why this particular date was chosen? Translate the Day and Month from English to Punjabi and you will understand......
27 June is Satai Jon (a.k.a Satai=Tortured; Jon=Species).....which means, celebrate the husband's day which represents their real state......The tortured species.

It's both ways these days. There have been a fair few girls who marry some dog over here (in the UK) and then separate at the first legally convenient opportunity to get with some romeo that they were having a romance with backhome. 
Strange how the marriage only became insufferably unbearable once separating couldn't compromise their chance of citizenship here.....hhhmmmmm

ਜਿਮੀ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਜਮਾ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਕੀ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਕਾ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੬॥੬੬॥
ਅਭੂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਭੈ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਛੂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਛੈ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੭॥੬੭॥
ਜਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਬ੍ਰਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਗਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੮॥੬੮॥
ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੯॥੬੯॥
ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੨੦॥੭੦॥
Do the jaap of above to get the 16000 benefit, as per Giani Thakur Singh , somewher in Jaap Sahib Katha.  :) I am going to save it for myself as well or better memorize it.
 
 
ਜਿਮੀ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਜਮਾ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਕੀ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਕਾ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੬॥੬੬॥
Jimee Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Jamaa Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Makee Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Makaa Tuheeaaʼn ॥16॥66॥
जिमी तुहीं ॥ जमा तुहीं ॥ मकी तुहीं ॥ मका तुहीं ॥१६॥६६॥
O Lord! Thou art the earth. O Lord! Thou art the sky.O Lord ! Thou art the Owner of the house. O Lord! Thou art the house Thyself. 16.66.
ਅਭੂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਭੈ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਛੂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਅਛੈ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੭॥੬੭॥
Abhoo Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Abhai Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Achhoo Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Achhai Tuheeaaʼn ॥17॥67॥
अभू तुहीं ॥ अभै तुहीं ॥ अछू तुहीं ॥ अछै तुहीं ॥१७॥६७॥
O Lord! Thou art birthless. O Lord Thou art Fearless.O Lord ! Thou art Untouchabe. O Lord ! Thou art Invincible.17.67.
ਜਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਬ੍ਰਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਗਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਮਤਸ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੮॥੬੮॥
Jatasa Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Baratasa Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Gatasa Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Matasa Tuheeaaʼn ॥18॥68॥
जतस तुहीं ॥ ब्रतस तुहीं ॥ गतस तुहीं ॥ मतस तुहीं ॥१८॥६८॥
O Lord! Thou art the celibacy. O Lord! Thou art the means for a virtuous deed. O Lord! Thou art the salvation. O Lord! Thou art the Redemption. 18.68.
ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੧੯॥੬੯॥
Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥19॥69॥
तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥१९॥६९॥
O Lord! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. O Lord! Everything Thou art the salvation. O Lord ! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. O Lord! Everything Thou art. O Lord! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. 19.69.
ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥ ਤੁਹੀਂ ਤੁਹੀਂ ॥੨੦॥੭੦॥
Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥ Tuheeaaʼn Tuheeaaʼn ॥20॥70॥
तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥ तुहीं तुहीं ॥२०॥७०॥
O Lord! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. O Lord! Everything art Thou, Eveything Thou art. O Lord! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. O Lord! O Lord! Everything art Thou, Everything Thou art. 20.70.