PAL 07

GuptSingh1699 - the authenticity of sarbloh Granth is a different question altogether and one of little importance as 99% of Sikhs(whatever subgroup) will probably never get to read it.
However Delpiero's assumptions have been clearly refuted beyond doubt by Jvalasingh's post and furthermore emphazise that Sarbloh is the sacred writings of Guru Gobind Singh Ji as believed by the Nihangs since the times of Guru Ji themselves.
This leaves you with two options believe the Nihangs or believe Pandit Tara Singh...........
I know who i would choose ??????

jaap sahib is the upmost bani from the dasam granth, chupai sahib for protection

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Gurbachan_Singh_%28Bhindran_wale%29/Guru_Granth_Sahib_Larivaar_Katha/Volume_14_Ang_1254-1351/032--Sant.Gurbachan.Singh.%28Bhindran.wale%29--Raag.Malaar--Ang-1289.%28Vaar%29.mp3

ANG 1289

I believe in the future, the British will have some kind of hand in helping Sikhs attain their right to self determination. The Brits are good and bad. If Sikhs have the brains to play politricks with the British they can get Khalistan easily and then keep a robust and friendly relationship with the British rather than the likes of Hundustan which is a poodle to foreign countries (hence it being so poor and weak,

What is the source for the information about Hazrat Mohammed Sahib's last words

finally got time to read this thread.....guys i think your going off track...
the topic was durga and sarbloh granth and not what is hinduism.....i did some further research on this topic i wish to share this with you.....
1, hindism has sacred scriptires eg, Geeta which were written by devtas not from God, only Gurbani is from God.
2, hinduisms main teachings are caste system, worship of devtas/devis aswell as God, fasts pilgrimages idol worship.
sikhism is completey seperate from hinduism because we have initiation ceremony, reject caste and idol worship and have a living Guru. In Raag Bihagra there is a shabad stating that mahraaj doesn't believe in Hinduism.. when Maharaj appeared from Bheni river after three days Maharaj states 'i am neither hindu nor muslim i follow the path of God'

3, IN HINDUISM DURGA IS A DEVI WHO IS WORSHIPPED AS THE GODDESS OF WAR IN IDOL FORM OR MANTRA MEDITATION.

4, IN MY EXPERIENCE I HAVE FOUND THAT SCHOLARS ARE DIVIDED AS TO WHETHER SAHIB SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI MAHARAJ DID PARGAT OF DURGA HOWEVER MAHARAJ'S BIR RAS
GRANTHS TALK ABOUT WAR AND DEMONS AND THE GODDESS DURGA.

5, NIHANG SINGHS BELIEVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SARBLOH GRANTH THAT MAHARAJ DID DO PARGAT OF DURGA AND THAT MAHARAJ HAD HELPED HER IN A PREVIOUS TIME FORM, THAT OF SATYUG WHEN MAHARAJ WERE KNOWN AS DUST DAMAN. THERE IS ALSO A SAKHI WHERE NIHANGS BELIEVE THAT GURU GOBIND SINGH JI'S BLESSED WIFE;MATA SAHIB DEVA WAS AN INCARNATION OF DURGA AND HENCE SHE IS THE MOTHER OF THE KHALSA NIHANG SINGH PANTH.

6, IN SIKHISM DURGA REPRESENTS SHAKTI FROM WHICH EVERYTHING EXCEPT GOD WAS CREATED, THIS INCLUDES FIVE ELEMENTS NATURE AND MAYA ETC ETC. GOD IS KNOWN AS SHIV. (NOT SHIVA A DRUGGEE WHO LIVES WITH PARBATI AND GANESH IN THE MOUNTAINS SOMEWHERE)
SHIV AND SHAKTI HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES IN GURBANI EG, RAMKALI ANAND SAHIB, SIDH GOST ASWELL AS DASAM GRANTH AND SARBLOH GRANTH. IN ASA KI VAR
GURU NANAK DEVJI STATES - DOE KUDRAT SAAJ KE KAR ASAN DITO CHAO....FROM ONE I CREATED TWO AND WITHIN THIS TWO I WATCH THE WORLD.

5,THE SHAKTA SHAKTI PRINCIPAL HAS TO BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHO OR WHAT DURGA IS, DURGA THE EIGHT ARMED LADY REPRESENTS THE PHYSICAL 'HUMAN'
FORM OF THIS SHAKTI WHICH IS CREATED BY GOD.

6, FINALLY THERE IS A DEBATE AS TO WHO WERE THE DEVTAS KRISHNA, RAM CHANDER,
BAVAN AVTAR ETC....I'M NOT TO SURE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY WERE THE VERY FORM OF GURU NANAK DEV JI IN PREVIOUS AGES
GURBANI STATES ANG 1390

ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥
सतजुगि तै माणिओ छलिओ बलि बावन भाइओ ॥

In the Golden Age of Sat Yuga, You were pleased to deceive Baal the king, in the form of a dwarf.

ਤ੍ਰੇਤੈ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਘੁਵੰਸੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
त्रेतै तै माणिओ रामु रघुवंसु कहाइओ ॥

In the Silver Age of Traytaa Yuga, You were called Raam of the Raghu dynasty.

ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ ਕੰਸੁ ਕਿਰਤਾਰਥੁ ਕੀਓ ॥
दुआपुरि क्रिसन मुरारि कंसु किरतारथु कीओ ॥

In the Brass Age of Dwaapur Yuga, You were Krishna; You killed Mur the demon and saved Kans.

ਉਗ੍ਰਸੈਣ ਕਉ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਭੈ ਭਗਤਹ ਜਨ ਦੀਓ ॥
उग्रसैण कउ राजु अभै भगतह जन दीओ ॥

You blessed Ugrasain with a kingdom, and You blessed Your humble devotees with fearlessness.

ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਗਦੁ ਅਮਰੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
कलिजुगि प्रमाणु नानक गुरु अंगदु अमरु कहाइओ ॥

In the Iron Age, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, You are known and accepted as Guru Nanak, Guru Angad and Guru Amar Das.

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਬਿਚਲੁ ਅਟਲੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖਿ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਓ ॥੭॥
स्री गुरू राजु अबिचलु अटलु आदि पुरखि फुरमाइओ ॥७॥

The sovereign rule of the Great Guru is unchanging and permanent, according the Command of the Primal Lord God. ||7||

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yes xylitol with the exception of prem ras
'hau pir salahee na rajoo' i have a insatiable desire to praise the lord. SGGS

Moksh is attained only whilst alive. You can't get moksha after death. Moksha is attained only when self realization is attained when the malady of ego is removed and the jot swaroop is attained, ie., man tu jot swaroop hai (Sri Guru Granth Sahib)

Antreev Char Padarth:-

1) Janam Padarth
2) Naam Padarth
3: Prem Padarth
4) Brahmgian Padarth

Chaar padarath from 4 lavan Bani

1. Karm
2. Sat guru
3. Bairaag
4. Brahmgian

1. Namakarak Mangal: Dhundhot Bhandan Anaek Bar
2. Vashtu Nirdasek Mangal: Sarab kala Samarth || 3. Ashirvaad Mangal: Dholuan na rakhao Prabho 4. Atam Chitan Mangal : Nanak dae Kar Hath
1 = Surrender
2 = Devotion
3 = Ardas
4 = Grace

don't listen to anything stated by Sri Sri Sri Sri Sri.............Yogi Bhajan.
When he came to Malasiya once he went to the biggest Gurdwara their and he told all the moneh to get out of the Gurdwara.
Huhh very good that is...which is far a comparison to that of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bindranvale who would say moneh you come and sit close to me and the Singh's go back a bit.

Don't listen to any so called Sants' giving future predictions such as the coming of Sant Isher Singh Jee and so on. Ive grown old hearing of so many wonderous second comings. My personal future predictions for the near futire are the complete collapse of the European Union resulting in famine, joblessness and a lot more wars for economic supremacy and more terrorizing of Muslims. I predict China to be dangerous. But the show must continue. Dont forget after WW2 there was the 60's aswell.

jaap sahib is the upmost bani from the dasam granth, chupai sahib for protection

actually maharaj themselves answer in the same shabad as to what the two paths are....but a greater knowledge of SGGS is neccessary to fully understand the deep meanings of gurbani

1. Namakarak Mangal: Dhundhot Bhandan Anaek Bar
2. Vashtu Nirdasek Mangal: Sarab kala Samarth || 3. Ashirvaad Mangal: Dholuan na rakhao Prabho 4. Atam Chitan Mangal : Nanak dae Kar Hath
1 = Surrender
2 = Devotion
3 = Ardas
4 = Grace

Further explanation of this and Buddism by Sant Jagjeet Singh Harkovavale in the following katha File number 15:

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio.php?q=f&f=%2FKatha%2F02_Present_Day_Katha%2FBaba_Jagjit_Singh_%28Harkhowal_wale%29

This is taught in Sikhism aswell. Remain in the congregation of saints, remain in the congregation of Sikhs, remain in the holy congregation.

Sant Giani Hari Singh isn't a yesterday school drop out who chooses to become a Giani with his eyes on the dollars.  He is the prestigious student of the great Sant Gurbachan Singh and what he has said is not wrong.  The problem is with the masses of Sikhs who are unable to comprehend simple principles on code of conduct but rather choose to make a huge drama about it in the hazuri of the Satguru and behave like junglee wild dogs.  The Akaal Takht needs to release an official Panthic Maryada that will stop any quarrels.
Until this doesn't happen more damage to the Panth will happen.  Central Government will prefer for this to not happen.  Whilst great scholars like Giani Hari Singh are with us it is imperative that this is done because the next lot of Dhunda's will surely create a great rehat maryada lol
 

Sant Giani Hari Singh isn't a yesterday school drop out who chooses to become a Giani with his eyes on the dollars.  He is the prestigious student of the great Sant Gurbachan Singh and what he has said is not wrong.  The problem is with the masses of Sikhs who are unable to comprehend simple principles on code of conduct but rather choose to make a huge drama about it in the hazuri of the Satguru and behave like junglee wild dogs.  The Akaal Takht needs to release an official Panthic Maryada that will stop any quarrels.
Until this doesn't happen more damage to the Panth will happen.  Central Government will prefer for this to not happen.  Whilst great scholars like Giani Hari Singh are with us it is imperative that this is done because the next lot of Dhunda's will surely create a great rehat maryada lol
 

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