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The different sounds have varying effects on the mind. So, you will have to be careful and try to pronounce it correctly. If you practice it enough times, you should be fine, especially in this case.
Daas finds ਕਰਾਵਨਹਾਰ is easier to pronounce than ਕਰਾਵਣਹਾਰ, as nose muscles comes into the play for the latter one. Were you born in the west?
 
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@GurjantGnostic - Gurpurab special for you bro...LOL.
Please listen after 1:07:00 min:
 
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I don't know what the ground situation was up there at the time.
Simply put Premi. Some bottom level street kalay in a lot of areas will go for easy targets. You have to ask yourself, just how true to militant Khalsa roots our lot have stayed. 
What the above shows me is that B'ham Sikh and sullay aren't strong enough to take on the other lot on their own. 
But again, look at how it started, allegations of muslims sexually abusing a young girl.   
Also, once mainstream white society okays racist attacks on browns (which they have right now in my opinion, mainly boris johnson) others will also do the same. Happened in the past too.  
 
Look at when 9/11 happened in NY too. Same thing. People from multiple communities started attacking turbaned people once whites 'normalised' it. 

Wonder how Midlands is now. 
Remember this in 2005 ? Sikhs had to get involved
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/RIVAL+GANGS+UNITE+TO+FIGHT%3B+Sikh+and+Muslim+crime+lords+call+truce+to...-a0138256400
RIVAL GANGS UNITE TO FIGHT; Sikh and Muslim crime lords call truce to stand against black gunmen.
Link/Page Citation
 
Byline: EXCLUSIVE BY DON MALHI

WARRING Asian street gangs have settled their differences to unite against black gangs who they blame for the Lozells riots.

The alarming revelation comes after reports that Birmingham's notorious black street gangs, the Johnson Crew and Burger Bar Boys, had called a truce to fight their Asian counterparts.

According to messages posted on Birmingham-based black music website Supatrax, members from the two gangs had met to 'unite and stand strong not only for the justice of the young girl but also for the black community as a whole'.

Now it is being claimed that gangsters from a Handsworth-based Sikh gang have promised support to their bitter rivals, who are Muslims.

The two gangs were originally formed in the 1980s to counter the rising influence of the far right and to defend their communities from racist attacks.

When the neo-Nazi threat diminished, the gangs continued to exist and turned into opposing crime syndicates and began turning on each other over religious grounds.

The Sikh SP (Lion of Punjab) gang accused Muslim gangs like the Aston Panthers, the Lynx and the Redheads, of forcibly converting Sikh girls to Islam.

Now gangland sources have told the Sunday Mercury that the bitter rivals have called an uneasy truce to counter intimidation by black gangs.

An SP member said: "The problem is that the blacks have lumped all brown people together as Asians whereas there is no such one united community.

"Last week, black youths were going round Sikh areas of Handsworth attacking their homes and shops, even though Sikhs had nothing to do with the riots in Lozells.

"Sikhs have been forced into this conflict now and we really have no choice but to side with the Muslim community on this issue."

Meanwhile, further details of the violence and mayhem in Lozells last week have begun to emerge.

It is understood that the police officer who was shot in the leg had, in fact, been shot with a .22 calibre bullet and not a ball-bearing as police had originally claimed.

A police source said five spent cartridges had been discovered at the scene and were being forensically examined.

Another officer narrowly avoided death when youths fired shots at him from a 9mm handgun and a bullet was later found embedded in a wall beside him. It has also been suggested that teenager Aaron James, who was shot dead in Newtown last week, was accidentally killed when he tripped over.

A police source said: "A group of black youths were firing guns over their shoulders as they ran away.

"It seems like the dead youth tripped over and may have accidentally been shot by an accomplice - or perhaps ended up shooting himself in the head and arm."
 

I think every last true streetwise person knows what you are saying. They aren't under any illusion that you can be attacked by anyone for whatever reason. It's like I said earlier, relations between blacks and browns might be okayish in one area, but completely different in another. I learnt this when I went to the midlands in the late 90s. 

They're everywhere now. 

Cannot compare it , they are different.
The grooming thing is overall worse, but we are all aware of it now (or should be!)
This is different. This sort of racism doesn't get publicised much when people are going on about BLM and white-on-black and black-on-black crime. It maybe is not as frequent as those other types of hate /knife crime (although that young Singh murdered in West London was apparently victim to Somali gang). I think Apne need to be aware if not already, to be extra alert around certain groups and not necessarily think of them as our 'friends' if some in those groups might have more hatred than some whites and Paks. 
A lot of mixed race men also can be involved. 
No doubt from what I hear though, that Croydon is one of the roughest 'manors' in London.
Btw, @dalsingh101, are you aware that apparently there's a lot of 'freshies' who have settled in that area in recent years ? 

Don't forget the term "Christian" in the above description.
 
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Any worse than mass grooming and sexual abuse  of vulnerable females by certain other quarters? 

A lot of the whites and blacks involved in these crimes already have criminal records and not much to lose. 
I think you're right, they will pick on who they perceive as 'weak'. 
But it's extra bad picking on a defenceless woman, seems nothing other than a hate crime. 

Saw it earlier, posted more details below. Blacks are racist towards Asians in the UK just as much as whites are it seems. Remember Blacks targeting Asian businesses during the 2011 'riots'. 
What you think @dalsingh101 ?
If South Asians (esp Indians) improve their street cred (training etc) would this happen less ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505245/Police-hunt-suspect-woman-31-hair-torn-head-race-attack-Croydon.html
 
Police hunt suspect after woman, 31, has hair torn from her head in race attack as she gets off bus in Croydon
A South Asian woman had her hair torn in a race attack in Croydon, London Police have released a CCTV photo of a man that they want to question The victim was attacked outside East Croydon station on December 18  By CHAY QUINN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:01, 12 February 2022 | UPDATED: 17:24, 12 February 2022
 
Police have released a photograph of a man they want to speak to after a woman had hair torn from her scalp in a racially-aggravated attack.
The assault took place outside East Croydon Railway Station, south London, at around 6.45pm on December 18 when the 31-year-old victim got off a Route 119 bus.
Scotland Yard said she had her hair pulled by the suspect, resulting in a portion being ripped from her scalp.
+2 View gallery   Scotland Yard have released this photo of a man they want to talk to about the race attack

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10505245/Police-hunt-suspect-woman-31-hair-torn-head-race-attack-Croydon.html

I'm with you on the street cred thing.
I think relationships depend on where you live and past experiences between communities.
In the late 80s/early 90s where I lived, after the whites were subdued (physically) there were gang wars between browns and blacks, and in my specific neighbourhood, browns won (through armed violence), I'd say since then, compared to many other places, there has been a healthy respect between the two communities. 

Bhai Jee,
please do not loose courage.
I think that maybe your current state is due to sometning that has affected very hard to your heart, maybe some dissapointment from somebody, maybe someone has betrayed you, maybe you expected something special which did not happen .... 
It is more likely at heart(sentiments) level, than anything else.
From my personal experience, I can tell you that, keep out from toxic  and narcissistc people who like to put others down and control their emotions, their mental health ....
Then also, if doing any sewa or devotional practices, do it with a non expectation mind, we should not think that I am doing so much for Maharaj, so I will get somehow my wishes granted .... any devotion should be with love and faith only in Him...which is called nishkam sewa, then there is no breakheart.
And at all times , try as much as possible to live in His (Tera bhaana meetha laagay) not ours; for with our efforts and will, we would expect or want something in return, but when it is by His will...then it is He knows best what to be done.
In the Bani Guru Jee tels the Lord:
If you give me a kingdom, then too it is Your glory, or even if you make me a beggar, what does it diminish from my side (as already I am nothing).
So bro, worldywise(physically)take whatever medicines you have to, eat the correct diet, sleep and rest that much required, also mentalwise, try staying in His will along with regular bhagtee.
Wish you a sooner recovery from this downhearted phase.... this too shall pass.
God bless you.
 

Do not focus too much on Outer Rehat for now. Focus on Mental Health and Jaap (connecting the Surat with the Gurbani Shabad/Mantar).
 
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Bro, you will have to stick to One Gurbani Mantar for a considerable amount of time. Please please do not switch Gurbani Mantars/Shabads.
Which one do you like the best from the above?
Daas would recommend Khalsa Gayetri Mantar. (Gobinde Mukande....). My friend did Jaap of this Mantar too and it had a positive effect on him. It is small and very powerful.
 
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Maybe a bad karam from your previous lives has become an obstacle in your path. 
Stay strong bro. You are still young. Maya might be distracting you from attaining greatness.
Have you tried going to the Panj Pyare again and explaining them your situation?
 
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Did you ever start taking pride in your Gursikhi jeevan?
Do you eat a lot from outside? Are you a Bibeki?
Is there anyone (in your opinion) who you think is jealous of you or your family?
Can you think of any event (or events) which happened in your life, which might have triggered a downfall in your spiritual progress?
 
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Do you do Sangat of Gurmukhs?
Do you know of any Gurmukh Brahamgyani?
Have you looked into Gurbani Mantar Sidhi?
 
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The foremost thing here is your mental and physical health.
Are you taking medication for Depression and Anxiety?
Have you got full blood work (including Vitamin D testing) done?
Do you practice Celibacy?
Do you take cold showers on a daily basis?
 
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Daas is having trouble understanding your post. So, audio will definitely help.
Also, are you using (or have used) any reference material to learn? 
 
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LOVE IT!!!

What a lot of ordinary people might think of as morally wrong, might be a KAUTAK of Sri Satguru jee or Bhagat Sahebaan.
There is a sakhi related to Shromani Bhagat, Baba Kabir jee Maharaaj in this regards. He saved a thief in his house by making him sleep next to his daughter. Many people did NINDA of Mahapurakh because of it.
 
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