jaikaara

ਵਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ


Found this amazing article on explanation of Chakravyuha

http://www.quora.com/What-was-the-right-strategy-for-Abhimanyu-to-defeat-the-Padmavyuha-formation-from-the-Mahabharata

just heard it once, and its in no way any disrespect ,

sidhu was experssing arjun's view via gurbani .

didnt find anything wrong in it

I agree with Tony here ..it is not that the police had not anticipated trouble ..they should have used rubber bullets ..and what is badal and company doing anything to ease out tensions ?

The fact is the entire fiasco is based on fear factor ..Sikh Radicals thinking system targets them ..Hindus thinking Sikh Radicals target them...i appeal to both sides..let the differences be ..come together on what matches ..the Gurus are venerable to both ..atleast come together on Parvs ..

Kaur is a 'apbransh ' of Kunwar which was used by Rajput females along with their name ..Kunwar means prince.

Mata Sahib 'Devaa' is used these days and so is Mata Sahib 'Kaur' was Mata Sahib Devi is what i have heard .

If you believe Dasam Paatsaah Sahib -e-Kamaal Siri Guru GobindSingh ji as your Spiritual Father then you will not ask this question.

Savinder bhaa ji main gal kiti si..unhane dasseya koi masla nai haiga ji...mann'ch vi japna ho sakda ji..5 pyaareya nu pehle hi dasdeyo inhade baare

I will seek advice from Giani Sarabjeetsingh ji Nirmale Kathaakaar(http://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/artist/bhai-sarabjeet-singh-nirmale ) of Sri Guru Dasam Granth Sahib ji Hazoor sahib on this and get back to you ..

Everyone of us sees a phase of this kind in a lifetime . Keep doing jaap of mool mantar and Sukhmani Sahib ..leave your issues to Waheguru....i know its difficult ..but trust me it is the only way..some questions are best left to Him

Women are too (if not even more so), men just use their physical superiority and domination of society/resources to suppress it.

I thought about this issue, if she feels that she is been sexually molested..go to the cops, both parties will be scrutinized or quizzed based on the evidence presented. Since she bought it up and victimized, she shouldn't have any problem following law and legal means going to cops...if she does not she loses crediblity or merit of her case. This might be case of entrapement- read charitar as others have already suggested.

I am not doubting gyani or kathavachik cannot slip anyone can slip before bhramgyan, maya is very powerful even hardcore tapasavi big big rishi muniya slipped infront of maya and learned from their mistakes, self reflection and moved on. Anything and everything is possible.

On a humorous note out of no where I woke up this morning singing the song "Jumma chumma dede..."

My wife got worried, and said this was definitely not like me and where the waheguru jaap had gone. She then interrogated me if there was another woman in picture.

Maya has its play .. ,,to be beyond it is just not possible for all..if we read about Rishis like Vishwamitra they too were enticed ..so at times we need to let go and concentrate on the gyaan...and tis will stop if we stope hero-fiing people and making them mahapurush ..touch their feet ...and do sewa as if they were Akaal themselves..

A Kathakar and a Raagi are to be taken as professionals and respected accordingly do not boost their ego and arrogance by going an rolling in their feet ..haume creates issues..so stop boosting the haume

this lady's views are considered shaky and she is said to be close with Dasam Nindaks

One thing good about all this being discussed is , we are maturely put our views across . Savinderpalsingh veer ji and Satkirinkaur ji I want to thank you from my heart . We had debate maintaining a human approach. We might disagree on certain things however in the end we are all students of the same Aad Guru Siri Akaal Purakh ji ..and our Guardian Gurus the 10 Guru Sahibaan whose knowledge is encrypted in Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji , Siri Guru Dasam Granth Sahib ji and Siri Guru Sarabloh Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj .


Hey Akaal Purakh ji Sadaa Sahaai Daatar Jeeyo ..Iss Sangat 'ch Prem Sadbhaavna baanye rakkhna ji ..

First of all ..about that tuk...it is not describing laws of marriage ..

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥
Says Nanak, she who looks upon the Transcendent Lord as her Husband,

ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਰਵਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੩੦॥੯੯॥
is the blessed 'satee'; she is received with honor in the Court of the Lord. ||4||30||99||

my opnion is ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥
means one who sees the Lord as His/her beloved ..i tell you the reason why i feel so ..there is no mention of stree which is woman ..so this is not looking gender specific.

ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਰਵਾਨਿਆ

Satee means a true One ..the ritual wherein a lady would sit on her husband's pyre was also called Satee....it begin with ladies who kind of commited suicide to escape the invaders during mughal rule and then it was taken as tradition...there is no hindu scripture which insists on ladies committing suicide like this. they might talk about something that happened but that is not a rule ..and by the way ..Maharaja Ranjit Singh's wives had commited Sati. .

I will do some more research on this ..i am not a scholar ..however since i am born and brought up in India ..i am familiar with the language. I take advie of Gianis from Siri Hazoor Sahib too.

The 'Husband' spoken about is Akaal...

Now here is the entire bani :
http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=185&L=15&id=7868

ਗਉੜੀ ਗੁਆਰੇਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
गउड़ी गुआरेरी महला ५ ॥
Ga▫oṛī gu▫ārerī mėhlā 5.
Gauree Gwaarayree, Fifth Mehl:
ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਮਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਆਏ ਸੰਜੋਗ ॥
कलिजुग महि मिलि आए संजोग ॥
Kalijug mėh mil ā▫e sanjog.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, they come together through destiny.
ਜਿਚਰੁ ਆਗਿਆ ਤਿਚਰੁ ਭੋਗਹਿ ਭੋਗ ॥੧॥
जिचरु आगिआ तिचरु भोगहि भोग ॥१॥
Jicẖar āgi▫ā ṯicẖar bẖogėh bẖog. ||1||
As long as the Lord commands, they enjoy their pleasures. ||1||
ਜਲੈ ਨ ਪਾਈਐ ਰਾਮ ਸਨੇਹੀ ॥
जलै न पाईऐ राम सनेही ॥
Jalai na pā▫ī▫ai rām sanehī.
By burning oneself, the Beloved Lord is not obtained.
ਕਿਰਤਿ ਸੰਜੋਗਿ ਸਤੀ ਉਠਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
किरति संजोगि सती उठि होई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Kiraṯ sanjog saṯī uṯẖ ho▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Only by the actions of destiny does she rise up and burn herself, as a 'satee'. ||1||Pause||
ਦੇਖਾ ਦੇਖੀ ਮਨਹਠਿ ਜਲਿ ਜਾਈਐ ॥
देखा देखी मनहठि जलि जाईऐ ॥
Ḏekẖā ḏekẖī manhaṯẖ jal jā▫ī▫ai.
Imitating what she sees, with her stubborn mind-set, she goes into the fire.
ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਬਹੁ ਜੋਨਿ ਭਵਾਈਐ ॥੨॥
प्रिअ संगु न पावै बहु जोनि भवाईऐ ॥२॥
Pari▫a sang na pāvai baho jon bẖavā▫ī▫ai. ||2||
She does not obtain the Company of her Beloved Lord, and she wanders through countless incarnations. ||2||
ਸੀਲ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਆਗਿਆ ਮਾਨੈ ॥
सील संजमि प्रिअ आगिआ मानै ॥
Sīl sanjam pari▫a āgi▫ā mānai.
With pure conduct and self-restraint, she surrenders to her Husband Lord's Will;
ਤਿਸੁ ਨਾਰੀ ਕਉ ਦੁਖੁ ਨ ਜਮਾਨੈ ॥੩॥
तिसु नारी कउ दुखु न जमानै ॥३॥
Ŧis nārī ka▫o ḏukẖ na jamānai. ||3||
that woman shall not suffer pain at the hands of the Messenger of Death. ||3||
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥
कहु नानक जिनि प्रिउ परमेसरु करि जानिआ ॥
Kaho Nānak jin pari▫o parmesar kar jāni▫ā.
Says Nanak, she who looks upon the Transcendent Lord as her Husband,
ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਰਵਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੩੦॥੯੯॥
धंनु सती दरगह परवानिआ ॥४॥३०॥९९॥
Ḏẖan saṯī ḏargėh parvāni▫ā. ||4||30||99||
is the blessed 'satee'; she is received with honor in the Court of the Lord. ||4||30||99||

The 'Husband' spoken about is Akaal...

The 'Husband' spoken about is Akaal...

Now here is the entire bani :
http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=185&L=15&id=7868

ਗਉੜੀ ਗੁਆਰੇਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
गउड़ी गुआरेरी महला ५ ॥
Ga▫oṛī gu▫ārerī mėhlā 5.
Gauree Gwaarayree, Fifth Mehl:
ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਮਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਆਏ ਸੰਜੋਗ ॥
कलिजुग महि मिलि आए संजोग ॥
Kalijug mėh mil ā▫e sanjog.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, they come together through destiny.
ਜਿਚਰੁ ਆਗਿਆ ਤਿਚਰੁ ਭੋਗਹਿ ਭੋਗ ॥੧॥
जिचरु आगिआ तिचरु भोगहि भोग ॥१॥
Jicẖar āgi▫ā ṯicẖar bẖogėh bẖog. ||1||
As long as the Lord commands, they enjoy their pleasures. ||1||
ਜਲੈ ਨ ਪਾਈਐ ਰਾਮ ਸਨੇਹੀ ॥
जलै न पाईऐ राम सनेही ॥
Jalai na pā▫ī▫ai rām sanehī.
By burning oneself, the Beloved Lord is not obtained.
ਕਿਰਤਿ ਸੰਜੋਗਿ ਸਤੀ ਉਠਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
किरति संजोगि सती उठि होई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Kiraṯ sanjog saṯī uṯẖ ho▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Only by the actions of destiny does she rise up and burn herself, as a 'satee'. ||1||Pause||
ਦੇਖਾ ਦੇਖੀ ਮਨਹਠਿ ਜਲਿ ਜਾਈਐ ॥
देखा देखी मनहठि जलि जाईऐ ॥
Ḏekẖā ḏekẖī manhaṯẖ jal jā▫ī▫ai.
Imitating what she sees, with her stubborn mind-set, she goes into the fire.
ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਬਹੁ ਜੋਨਿ ਭਵਾਈਐ ॥੨॥
प्रिअ संगु न पावै बहु जोनि भवाईऐ ॥२॥
Pari▫a sang na pāvai baho jon bẖavā▫ī▫ai. ||2||
She does not obtain the Company of her Beloved Lord, and she wanders through countless incarnations. ||2||
ਸੀਲ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਆਗਿਆ ਮਾਨੈ ॥
सील संजमि प्रिअ आगिआ मानै ॥
Sīl sanjam pari▫a āgi▫ā mānai.
With pure conduct and self-restraint, she surrenders to her Husband Lord's Will;
ਤਿਸੁ ਨਾਰੀ ਕਉ ਦੁਖੁ ਨ ਜਮਾਨੈ ॥੩॥
तिसु नारी कउ दुखु न जमानै ॥३॥
Ŧis nārī ka▫o ḏukẖ na jamānai. ||3||
that woman shall not suffer pain at the hands of the Messenger of Death. ||3||
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਉ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥
कहु नानक जिनि प्रिउ परमेसरु करि जानिआ ॥
Kaho Nānak jin pari▫o parmesar kar jāni▫ā.
Says Nanak, she who looks upon the Transcendent Lord as her Husband,
ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਰਵਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੩੦॥੯੯॥
धंनु सती दरगह परवानिआ ॥४॥३०॥९९॥
Ḏẖan saṯī ḏargėh parvāni▫ā. ||4||30||99||
is the blessed 'satee'; she is received with honor in the Court of the Lord. ||4||30||99||

Of what i have heard many suggest Dasam Baani to be read around noon timings giving logic that it being Bir Ras Baani..what i personally feel is ..when you do the baani the few times you will feel the energy flow inside you at a certain time.This should be taken as the appropriate time for you.

Excellent !!!! Very balanced and rational answers..might impressed with this Babaji

You are getting practical with Life veere. Remember the 3 pillars of Sikhi Naam Japo , Kirat Karo Vand Shakko. Now you would havea job and other responsibilities and time might be not available that much. Whenever you get time do what you can is what i feel.