HeyDudesWassup Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Who really knows why gay poeple are gay? Some might have been a women in their last life and feel they are stuck in the wrong body and some are just sexual deviants. What about Bi's? Is there a Bisexual gene out there too? doubt it. What about treating everyone equally and fairly what if a guy wants to marry 10 women and they all agree, should we drag them all in the gurdwara? We can go on and on and nothing is resolved. anyways don't think of Gay people as lower life forms then you but I would have to think they should meditate and turn straight or supress themselves from sexual activity with same sex. Anyways I think it's general knowledge that Gay marraige isn't allowed in sikhi. If a son wants to marry his mother, is it allowed? I don't think so, we just have to use SGGS as the foundation and know what is right and what is wrong. If gay marraiges ever were allowed in gurdwaras (which I don't think will ever be) I would not go to gurdwaras anymore , I would really have to second guess where sikhism has gone. Would I oneday become an Amritdhari sikh? doubt it but I would still do naam simran and follow sikhism according to my beliefs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Mugermach Singh, I don't know how to read this, can you tell us? Got it, for those that want to see it go to http://www.gobindsadan.org/institute/dasam/pdf/v1_2.pdf page 20, top line. Do some reading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 "heydudes" u need adobe acrobat reader u can get it from www.adobe.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Thanks bro I have acrobat reader but I can't read Gurmukhi. "heydudes" u need adobe acrobat reader u can get it from www.adobe.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Hi N30, If gay marraiges were allowed in Sikhi can you imagine...sure we would get publicity and people from all nations would convert to sikhi BUT they would only convert becuase we allowed gay marraiges, I doubt most of them would care for the religon at all and many would start their own sikh cults. How long would it take before the public labels us as the 'gay' religon. Little sikh kids being picked on in school not becuase of their turbans but because people think he follows a gay religon? Khalsa is of the pure so I think gay marraiges will never be allowed. Can you imagine a force of weak gay guys wearing dastaar and complaining because they broke a nail. I do not think Guru Gobind Singh Ji envisioned this. 1. It will benefit for the gay and lesbian to come forward and keep themselves in this free environment 2. Sikhi will be the first relegion for accepting gays and lesbians through sikh scriptures. There would enrmonous publicity about it. (SINCE TRUST ME EVERY OTHER FOLLOWER OF THE RELEGION IS LOOKIN FOR EQUALITY AND LOGICAL IN THE RELEGION) SIKHI GOT ALL OF EM. Thats why you see loads of converts from christianity, hinduism. Two major relegions. 3. Gays and Lesbians from other relegions (IE- Christians gays and lesbians) would be accepted and attracted towards sikhism because their relegion doesnt allow homosexuality. All i can say if sikhi was given to whites or blacks our relegion wont be plaqued with narrow minded people as if have now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 well well well Hold on a second if there are going to be gay marriages then they should be gandharva marriages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Why secret gandharva marriages? The gays would say they want equal rights as everyone. Anyways I don't think any of this will ever happen. well well well Hold on a second if there are going to be gay marriages then they should be gandharva marriages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 gandharva don't have to be secret but the fact is that in India it is the way gay and lesbians (mostly lesbians actually) used to get married. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jassa Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 y wud u stop visiting gurdwara if that hapened?? wats the gurdwara got to do wid it?? is your sikhi that weak? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 No my Sikhi isn't that weak but what does gurdwara have to do with sikhi? Gurdwaras depends from people to people and most are already fed up with the politics that go ont here but this thing would really end it for me. y wud u stop visiting gurdwara if that hapened?? wats the gurdwara got to do wid it?? is your sikhi that weak? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 news flash. Homosexuals not Gay about artical 48. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 ki? news flash. Homosexuals not Gay about artical 48. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jassa Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 ok where wud u go to do darshan of your guru....where would you find the sadh sangat?? instead of sayin this happens at my gurdwara or that happens, why dont you be a true singh and try and change it....make a voice...do something for the youth...look ath when the harmandir sahib was filled with mughal rulers and dancing girls... do u think the singhs said "oh this is messed up...im gonna stop going gurdwara now" NO! they done something about it! do u think when our gurdwareh were filled with all teh corruption and pointless rituals before the singh sabha movement that singhs thought "too mcuh pointless rituals happen there im gonna stop goin!" you can make a difference!! educate them...and if need be if someone is trying to get a marriage like that done go there n stop by education and if thatd doesnt work you do it physically! a singh does not stand on the sidelines and complain!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 sorry to tell you guys that but Maharaja Ranjit Singh used to have a harem of young boys and God knows what happens in certain taksals.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 sorry to tell you guys that but Maharaja Ranjit Singh used to have a harem of young boys and God knows what happens in certain taksals.... Dear Penji could you plz enlighten us az to what MRS did with this Harem of young boyz? :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 what do you think :shock: :shock: :shock: honkabonkabonks, the guy was a real gandoo :evil: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 what do you think :shock: :shock: :shock: honkabonkabonks, the guy was a real gandoo :evil: Oh sacchi Kyaa ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsh1469 Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 IMHO Vahguru doesn't care who you love. That has no importance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GurjantGnostic Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Arsh1469 said: IMHO Vahguru doesn't care who you love. That has no importance. In a way Gurbani agrees with you. Loving anyone other than Vaheguru will bring suffering. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jageera Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Arsh1469 said: IMHO Vahguru doesn't care who you love. That has no importance. How you come to that opinion, he told you so? Any evidence that Gurbani condones and encourages bonde poona?Historical evidence? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsh1469 Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jageera said: How you come to that opinion, he told you so? Any evidence that Gurbani condones and encourages bonde poona?Historical evidence? I don't think Gurbani has any references to homosexuality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GurjantGnostic Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Arsh1469 said: I don't think Gurbani has any references to homosexuality. No but it says to view all as brother and sister and not have relations with them unless you've had Anand Karaj. As a Sikh. Marriage is under the pervue of others. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Arsh1469 said: I don't think Gurbani has any references to homosexuality. Sikhi is celibates with exception of Anand Karaj. You're right I think that Haram is Haram without distinction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 14 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Sikhi is celibates with exception of Anand Karaj. You're right I think that Haram is Haram without distinction. Let's not make it a habit of using the lexicon of Abrahamic faiths in relation to our own thing bro i.e. haram. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sarabatam Posted September 5, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 This issue need to be addressed by panth. It's like big elephant in the room..no one likes to talks about. However, gay and lesbian Sikh marriages are happening more and more in western diasopra. Panth needs to create small and simple ardas ceremony for them ask for blessing in form of ardas. That should be it. They shouldn't be allowed to walk all over anand karaj sanctity. Anand karaj is between male and female.bhai jagraj singh spoken on this topic 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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