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    Lucky got a reaction from sarabatam in Who are you voting for in the Canadian election and why?   
    Liberal.  I have strong personal reasons
     
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Sukhmani Sahib during work   
    The answer is with the One antarjami. Only he knows what your surti consciousness is thinking. If you've lost the dhyian from an interruption, then ask yourself should you continue or should you go back and start the pauri, ashtpadhi again?   The answer will depend on your inner connection in different scenarios.  
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Sukhmani Sahib during work   
    rewind and start again from when they interrupted. 
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    Lucky got a reaction from Mooorakh in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I think it's both.
    In early stages of saas graas, saas saas, say when breathing through mouth, one is able to extract it from the sukham pavan around us.  I should remind you that the amrit rass is everywhere in sukham form, meaning inside and out.  This early stage of tasting amrit rass from the brahm around us is said to be an acknowledgment nishanee from Waheguru.  Many gurmukhs question this sweet taste because they don't feel anand or bliss, and Bhai saab Simranjeet and other bhai saabs have said that you should take it as a positive insignia confirming that the bacha is on the right path. 
    The above is just one stage of tasting the sweet nectar. There is a further stage when the amrit can be produced from within and it can be felt dripping at back of tongue. I can go into more detail about this some other time, but this comes from sitting in dhyian with anhad shabad. It is a very concentrated secretion (physical) and a miniscule drop gives an immense taste.(drips from pineal gland) Sometimes called naam rass or har rass since it comes directly from the "hari-mandar' inside you. Lots of gyan and anand will manifest from this naam rass unlike the rass described above.
     
     
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    Lucky got a reaction from Kaur10 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I think it's both.
    In early stages of saas graas, saas saas, say when breathing through mouth, one is able to extract it from the sukham pavan around us.  I should remind you that the amrit rass is everywhere in sukham form, meaning inside and out.  This early stage of tasting amrit rass from the brahm around us is said to be an acknowledgment nishanee from Waheguru.  Many gurmukhs question this sweet taste because they don't feel anand or bliss, and Bhai saab Simranjeet and other bhai saabs have said that you should take it as a positive insignia confirming that the bacha is on the right path. 
    The above is just one stage of tasting the sweet nectar. There is a further stage when the amrit can be produced from within and it can be felt dripping at back of tongue. I can go into more detail about this some other time, but this comes from sitting in dhyian with anhad shabad. It is a very concentrated secretion (physical) and a miniscule drop gives an immense taste.(drips from pineal gland) Sometimes called naam rass or har rass since it comes directly from the "hari-mandar' inside you. Lots of gyan and anand will manifest from this naam rass unlike the rass described above.
     
     
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    Lucky got a reaction from Ragmaala in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I think it's both.
    In early stages of saas graas, saas saas, say when breathing through mouth, one is able to extract it from the sukham pavan around us.  I should remind you that the amrit rass is everywhere in sukham form, meaning inside and out.  This early stage of tasting amrit rass from the brahm around us is said to be an acknowledgment nishanee from Waheguru.  Many gurmukhs question this sweet taste because they don't feel anand or bliss, and Bhai saab Simranjeet and other bhai saabs have said that you should take it as a positive insignia confirming that the bacha is on the right path. 
    The above is just one stage of tasting the sweet nectar. There is a further stage when the amrit can be produced from within and it can be felt dripping at back of tongue. I can go into more detail about this some other time, but this comes from sitting in dhyian with anhad shabad. It is a very concentrated secretion (physical) and a miniscule drop gives an immense taste.(drips from pineal gland) Sometimes called naam rass or har rass since it comes directly from the "hari-mandar' inside you. Lots of gyan and anand will manifest from this naam rass unlike the rass described above.
     
     
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I think it's both.
    In early stages of saas graas, saas saas, say when breathing through mouth, one is able to extract it from the sukham pavan around us.  I should remind you that the amrit rass is everywhere in sukham form, meaning inside and out.  This early stage of tasting amrit rass from the brahm around us is said to be an acknowledgment nishanee from Waheguru.  Many gurmukhs question this sweet taste because they don't feel anand or bliss, and Bhai saab Simranjeet and other bhai saabs have said that you should take it as a positive insignia confirming that the bacha is on the right path. 
    The above is just one stage of tasting the sweet nectar. There is a further stage when the amrit can be produced from within and it can be felt dripping at back of tongue. I can go into more detail about this some other time, but this comes from sitting in dhyian with anhad shabad. It is a very concentrated secretion (physical) and a miniscule drop gives an immense taste.(drips from pineal gland) Sometimes called naam rass or har rass since it comes directly from the "hari-mandar' inside you. Lots of gyan and anand will manifest from this naam rass unlike the rass described above.
     
     
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Santa Singh's Sociology Phd Thesis   
    I always carry cash n change in my back pocket, -this explains why I have a big ass!
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    Lucky got a reaction from gsm52 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I think it's both.
    In early stages of saas graas, saas saas, say when breathing through mouth, one is able to extract it from the sukham pavan around us.  I should remind you that the amrit rass is everywhere in sukham form, meaning inside and out.  This early stage of tasting amrit rass from the brahm around us is said to be an acknowledgment nishanee from Waheguru.  Many gurmukhs question this sweet taste because they don't feel anand or bliss, and Bhai saab Simranjeet and other bhai saabs have said that you should take it as a positive insignia confirming that the bacha is on the right path. 
    The above is just one stage of tasting the sweet nectar. There is a further stage when the amrit can be produced from within and it can be felt dripping at back of tongue. I can go into more detail about this some other time, but this comes from sitting in dhyian with anhad shabad. It is a very concentrated secretion (physical) and a miniscule drop gives an immense taste.(drips from pineal gland) Sometimes called naam rass or har rass since it comes directly from the "hari-mandar' inside you. Lots of gyan and anand will manifest from this naam rass unlike the rass described above.
     
     
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    Lucky reacted to sevak in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Well said 🙏
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    Lucky reacted to sevak in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    Ok
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    Lucky got a reaction from Mooorakh in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky got a reaction from gsm52 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky got a reaction from Jageera in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky got a reaction from sevak in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky got a reaction from PCSJZ in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    I see where you are coming from paaji. No probs,.. I'm not gonna break your faith but some of us have also been at the same stage you are at. We too were questioning the authenticity of what is shabad, what is dunn, what is naam, anhad, toor, naad and so on..  From my experience you can ONLY learn and understand this part of bhagtee in stages. The stages of your own self-progress.   There is no black or white method of describing it in paragraphs and learning it without self-practice.
    Yes, there are many nishanees for different stages of shabad but as far as I know, The 5 dhoot are ONLY left behind when in chautha padh.   However, once you get naam pargat and have crossed the 1st bhavsagar, then you can  be protected/shielded (free from)  low vibration entities of different  kinds, but you will never be free from the 5 dhoot whilst your MANN and atma are in  astool form.  The khel is about the 5 dhoot and your mann constantly. as long as you are having vichaar/furnay/thoughts of any kind, ..then the 5 dhoot are always tagging on.   These are some of the key points that I can give you and I'm stating them with relevance to gurbani. I suggest you have a good read through this thread from the beginning and things will become a little less fuzzy.  
    You are questioning these things, and I'm glad. it shows you have the drive. My advice is that you practice simran with faith and don't ignore any sounds you hear. That doesn't mean you follow them or try searching for them. They come in time and if you read back older posts you will see how me and some other seekers found our way through certain sounds we experienced.  Only after you have heard them  will you begin to understand what is true anhad i.e.. when listening in chautha pad avastha(outside of tre-gun maya) and what are pavan shabads. Another thing is , Amrit rass. I remember reading a number of texts and many of them didn't mention the sweet amrit rass or it's stages. Amrit rass is a must and it's the earliest nishanees of you walking the right path. But amrit rass itself has different stages of 'where' you are drinking it from, even though there is only ONE amrit.
    I'm not saying I have the right answers, but the little bits I'm telling you have been confirmed with what Bhai Simranjeet Tohana ji and other gurmukhs have stated on many occasions.
    Other piece of advise  I can give, is for you not to be trying to jump ahead. All this does is create self-made gyan and more thoughts for the mind. Instead focus with 100% dhyian on the stage you are practicing. Whether that is Saas graas, saas saas or antharghat.  Give it your fullest devotion.
     
    Waheguru
    Sat kartar
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    Lucky reacted to dalsingh101 in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    I do think there is a big part of that, but I think also a lot of other things are broached too. And even wise, adult, discerning females reading it can gain from it. 
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    Can you explain a little clearly which part you understanding as anhad and what you understanding as not anhad.  There is a lot of confusion and it took a couple of a us a few years understand the origins of different sounds.  
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    Lucky got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    Well said.  I'm pleased that you read the earlier posts about how to spiritually over-ride kaam rather than trying to run away from where women may be hanging about.
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    Lucky got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    from previous, recent comment.
    I still disagree. Show me in gurbani where this is mentioned? In fact, if you look carefully it tells you to NOT hide from anything in maya. but float like a lotus above the muddy waters of maya ocean.(sidh ghosht) 
    What difference is there in a yogi becoming ascetic to hide away from physical maya  in comparison to your suggestion of avoiding(hiding) from places where females may be in multiple numbers?
    Charitrophakhyiian actually teaches you how to shape your mind and psyche to deal with situations where mind can get lured into the tricks and temptations of females.
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    from previous, recent comment.
    I still disagree. Show me in gurbani where this is mentioned? In fact, if you look carefully it tells you to NOT hide from anything in maya. but float like a lotus above the muddy waters of maya ocean.(sidh ghosht) 
    What difference is there in a yogi becoming ascetic to hide away from physical maya  in comparison to your suggestion of avoiding(hiding) from places where females may be in multiple numbers?
    Charitrophakhyiian actually teaches you how to shape your mind and psyche to deal with situations where mind can get lured into the tricks and temptations of females.
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    Lucky got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Practical Ways Of Avoiding Lust   
    Well said.  I'm pleased that you read the earlier posts about how to spiritually over-ride kaam rather than trying to run away from where women may be hanging about.
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    Lucky got a reaction from paapiman in Soul leaving the body during simran concentration   
    Gracias.
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    Lucky got a reaction from Ragmaala in Drishti Banauna   
    I see...You should be ready for it once you can listen to shabad by stopping vichaar. You can get prepped for this by doing increasing amounts of antarghat simran(silent jap) or practicing rom rom technique. 
    I don't know if anyone has just got the dristee by doing the 'focus in front of eyes' technique, but I've only heard about it in the recent years. 
    The dristee (correct one) should come automatically as you get adept in stilling the mann and making it sit at an asan.  That's how it came for me but at the time, but I didn't know what it was. It as only until later, that I was able to confirm that I could see the brahm and hear naam at the same time.   I mentioned 'correct one' earlier in sentence because some seekers have attempted prematurely and end up seeing entities. This can occur if naam isn't present from what I understand.    Ideally, if you have been following a certain gurmukh's instructions and confirmed the nishanees experienced, then you should really follow their technique instructions or recommendations.  Otherwise, some of us can tell the techniques that we"ve heard mentioned by gurmukhs like Bhai Simranjeet ji, Bhai Dharamjeet ji and few others.
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