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amazing story. Very inspirational.
A goal is very important...14 hours ...wow.. hats off to couple...I think to achieve something you have to want it like you want breath when drowning in water.
That is the sort of emergency that is needed to see effect from simran..hmm. good.. it seems this video was meant for me

Not even a minute into the video, and it's already becoming so clear how important it is to have a purpose in life.

The above you referenced is not literal. Most every religion speaks of creation of the Universe being initiated by a word. This is true, base of creation is vibration. Sound is only one part of the spectrum of vibration as is heat, radiation, electromagnetic, light, microwave, and... at the far end from sound, thought. Even matter is just energy at a slow rate of vibration so it manifests into something tangible. Where the metaphor comes is, nothing including your own body are real. Scientists say that it's a miracle that every solid thing in existence is 99.9999% empty space so why don't we fall through a chair? The reference to Vishnu etc are not speaking of literal material entities but they represent various aspects of creation. 
Also remember time is part of the creation and there only exists now. Past and future are illusions. Try to define now. You can't pinpoint an exact 'now' because if you try, you automatically give it a start and finish, but now is not a set point in time. Rather its just the wave front moving through something else. Like a video game saved on a hard drive. You might say the illusion of time is the game start to finish but looking at the hard drive you see it's just a hard drive with everything the entire game sitting there all at once. It's only your perspective of playing it when you live the illusion of time. The 'now' would basically be where the hard drive heads are reading and they are constantly moving so you can't say now is this point to this point. There is no 'now' in reality. There is just 'all'. 
So evolution is really not the evolution of matter as from Waheguru perspective everything exists all at once. Where evolution comes in is the experience of jumping into the game. The experience of unfolding consciousness and awakening to self. The game itself is becoming self aware. That's why life becomes more complex. As mineral and plant there is a dreamlike state. As animal only instincticual awareness but more aware of surroundings. As human Creator can finally ask the important question of who am I. 
We are just the costumes. But the awareness behind us all is God. When a human awakens to reality is not a human waking up, it's God waking up in human form. 
The 'word' is conscious thought, or intent. The evolution is the awakening to self awareness. 
 

weheguru
Actually in Gurbani God is refered to as lord Husband and our souls are female (men and woman) therefore even spiritually, men are female. As the 5 pyara are a representation of Weheguru (they were given such high regard even Guru Gobind Singh Ji listened to their hukam). This is why they have to be male. This is not a sexist thing as all souls are regarded female.
 
 
 

Newsflash Gurmat does not state that women must be treated as inferior to men... men say women must be treated as inferior to men.

I hate these type of threads. It's just the same old crap that we have been through. Brings unwanted animosity.

We can't even compare Baba nand singh ji with anyone.
But Bhai Sahib were a great soul.Why are we comparing him with mahapurkhs?
Gurbani says: 
Jinna Saas graas na visray har Naama har mant
Dhan sey saeyi Nanaka pooran soyii sant.
So how can we forget about their spiritual jiwan and kamai..
You know when we start to ignore one's 1000 good karams in front of just 1 bad karam(and when even it's done in anjaanpuna not with a sure intention),then it's only gonna effect US.
We dont know about how much love,bhagti and satkaar he had towards MAharaj..how he sacrificed his entire life for sake of god's Name.
Are we gyani enough to explore their relations with almighty?He could end his swaas thru 10th door.Guru Maharaj gave him Darshan and Naam himself.Just give a reading to Jail jithiyan.certainly it will give you goose bumps.
when it comes to Raagmala.His intention was still to love his guru.He thought it's not guru's baani.he was not doing so with intention to go against guru's.
All I want to say is that when one person like me of very lowwww awastha use words to oppose such Greatttt souls,then certainly he's gonna have a hard way ahead.
P.S 
I'm wondered how ppl who are not even 1% of saints are using words like how  could he do that ?? And judging him??
If Baba Nand Singh Ji were here at this time and Bhai sahib were here too,then you could hear the bachans of Baba Nand singh  Ji towards him..
Jey ohna to galti hoyi v hovegi ta V ajj oh maharaj de ghar breejmaan hon ge q k ohna de kamai di roshni agge ahh bhul kuj v nhi c.
So we should better focus on our own kamai.Pta nhi saada ki banu..Es gal baare jyada sochiye!!
Gur fateh!
 
 
 

Sikhi and Women - Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
 
 

Being a woman myself, I have never thought much about my gender.Sometime I do think like If I were a man,then could do bhagti or meditation without social hindrances like no ghrasti no marriage only meditation and could reside anywhere alone.These are my only concerns with my gender.Then at same other time,my soul answers I can still do all these things That's just an illusion nd is trying to restrict my progression.If my inner will and love is strong enough then Maharaj can help to achieve the impossible.
So I think Such thoughts which are creating doubts in your mind may be a big trap of Maya to create hindrances or may act like a key for your hidden door.Choice is yours.What you want to come out of these thoughts? Anyways It sounds easy but still everything's in waheguru's hand.So again and again do ardaas.He will himself answer you.and answer is within you.As you 'll found nothing outside.So close your physical ears and try to listen to the divine sound that's only within yourself.You'll certainly be answered.
And Don't feel bad being born as a female.Infact ,Do thanks to almighty in all possible ways to bless you with this human body.Many many many souls are yearning to take birth as a human.Just keep thanking for having this life.Otherwise,if it finishes without any achievment,then it will be so hard even to have this female body.
Gur fateh!!

My understanding is that it women could have been part of the punj, but no woman stood up during the first Amrit Sanchar, only men, and it was set from there. 
Whether the above is true or not, the bottom line is that It's Hukam. As sikhs we are required to accept Hukam. We know it is Hukam b/c the panth has historically accepted women as administrators of provinces and as military leaders, but never as part of the punj piare. The various traditional orders of the sikh dharm that carried forward Maharaj's teachings universally agree on this point. 
Bani gives us further guidance, teaching us to learn about the Gurus teachings from the sants. The sants also unanimously agree on this point. This includes female sants as well. 
 ‘He, in whose heart Nirankar has taken residence, the entire world is delivered through his teaching’ (269:9)”
 
 

No, there are in fact women sants in Sikh dharam as well. 
 

Whether Khalsa women wear them or not is not dependant on 'the way you see it.'  The dastar is mandatory for both.  It is not an article of clothing which is in vogue one day and not in vogue the next!!!  It is the UNIFORM OF THE KHALSA.  Khalsa consists of both men and women!!  Do modern day female soldiers wear skirts and pretty little  blouses with floral motifs when they join the army?  NO!!!!!!!!  They wear exactly the same uniform as men soldiers.  Female soldiers wear berets same as men soldiers, no questions asked!! They don't wear colorful scarves to signify they are women!!  OBSERVE AND LEARN.  The creator of the Khalsa commanded that men and women shall wear the same uniform, simple.  Every single article of uniform is mandatory whether one is a modern day soldier or not.  No one can pick and choose, either you are in or you are out and there is no two ways about it!  
Women stopped obeying the Guru's command to wear a dastar long time ago.  This is why we see not that many men wearing the turbans either these days!
The reason we are seeing more and more women wearing dastars  nowadays is two fold.  Firstly, the so called 'singhs'  are following their mothers' footsteps.  They are doing exactly what their mothers failed to teach them when young.  The young Khalsa  women are taking notice and becoming more aware of what's happened.  Secondly,  the so called 'singhs' have become too lax to obey the orders of the Guru!! The young women are taking their responsibility of keeping Khalsa strong very seriously.  More seriously than men ever did!! I congratulate them.
 
 
 
 

Being Human, we have so many inherent problems. 
We try to judge the other person in terms of his/her financial status & his spiritual status based on his outer appearances alone. Both in the materialistic & religious world.
We are also insecure of each other, and try to come up with examples to make us feel better from the rest.
Human mind is foolish. It forms opinions based on a persons outer appearance. No one knows whats really going on inside that person.
We try to fool ourselves, as well as others.
I think the above pretty much sums up all issues, debates & ego trips that we see daily.
 

Fo once I am in agreement with Paapiman veerji and that doesn't happen often!  And since heads must be covered at all times, chunni is not possible for anything involving physical acticity. They pretty much have to stand still to prevent it from sliding off the head. If they want to do any sport etc. its impossible with a chunni. So they have to remove it and have a bare head, kaalka do you think this is better than having a turban where their head is covered at all times, and they can do things which require physical movement without it falling off their head or the ends sliding off shoulders etc? Chunni wearing women, inevitibly end up with their heads bare most of the time. If a woman takes Amrit, she is required to have her head covered at all times. If she chooses to wear a chunni, then what does she do for sports or anything really which requires any sort of movement? She will end up having it uncovered much of the time despite how much she tries to keep it covered. I prefer when Kaurs tie a dastar for this reason. They don't end up with bare heads by accident (or from being fed up with the chunni and taking it off).
 

Bro, what was the reason behind it?
This is so weird, as Sikh women wore Turbans before AKJ was born.
 
Bhul chuk maaf

There is historical evidence present to prove that Sikh women wore turbans in the past.
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An account of a Akaaleen/Nihangnee from 1842 by a Christian Missionary Rev. J. Caldwell, published in the Foreign Missionary Chronicle.
” We were visited this forenoon by a most singular character, an Akalin, or female faqir of a peculiar sect. Like the class of mendicants to whom she belongs, she was armed to the teeth. Over her shoulder was slung a sword, while her belt was graced with a large horse pistol, a dagger, and sundry other weapons of destruction.
Another sword hung by her side. Her turban was ornamented with a panji and five or six chakkars. The panji is an instrument made something in a form of a tiger’s claws, with five curved blades exceedingly sharp. The chakkar is a steel discus, of six or eight diameters, very sharp also, and no doubt a destructive weapon when hurled with sufficient force.
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[1] - http://dailysikhupdates.com/rare-british-account-of-a-female-nihang-warrior/
 
Mata Shamsher Kaur jee was the adopted daughter of Sardar Jassa Singh jee Ramgariha.
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She dressed like a male soldier and was known as Shamsher. Many did not know that Shamsher was a female. 
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She took both the ladies to her house. When she changed her clothes, the ladies were surprised to find that their savior was a lady.
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[2] - https://sikhunity.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/bibi-shamsher-kaur-jee/
 
Bhul chuk maaf

No doubt. Some sampardas (still) view women as being inferior due to periods and other reasons think it blasphmous if a woman tried to be in image of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Having periods (dirty) and being physically weaker is because they are being punished for past karma. That is why they are also dead set against women in the punj pyaras. It has nothing to do with no woman giving her head that day as suggested by some. It has to do with women being spiritually inferior to men. Thats the only reason it is seen as a sin for them to tie a turban. (Otherwise its just a piece of fabric worn to cover and protect the keshas.) Because its seen as a woman trying to usurp a higher spiritual position than she is, and not accepting her punishment. Women need to wait until they do enough bhagti and be reborn in a male joon to do religious things. Otherwise, they should focus on serving their husband and raising children only. They should remain quiet, and not try to pretend to be men (pretending to be higher spiritually than they are) and just accept they are here under punishment in this joon.
The above is NOT my thinking. This is how many Singhs unfortunately view women. And it's sad. Our Gurus did not teach this. This is pure Brahaministical thinking only. And its well known Brahministical thinking crept into Sikhi while Wikhs were forced into hiding in the woods and holy places occupied. We lost so much.

Good photos and a good example of how if turbans in one culture are not seen as masculinizing women, then how could they do the same in another culture when the basic form is the same? Only the reason is different. Also, Sikhi is a religion and not a culture. It crosses cultures. Are you going to say that women of China (going by the above examples) if they adopt Sikhi you will all of a sudden tell them they can no longer tie turbans because now, as a Sikh it's somehow only for men? Or Tibetan, or Laos just using the above examples Harkiran Kaur Bhenji posted.
Though it's not mandatory for them, Kaurs certainly can tie a distar. If you don't personally like how they look, who cares. Kaurs don't exist just for you to look at. Save your leering for your own wife and never mind what the rest of Singhnis are doing.  There are plenty of Kaurs who don't tie a turban (and plenty of Singhs as well for that matter) Marry one of them and stop bullying the Kaurs who choose to be in Guru roop. by the way did you know prior to early 1900 harmandir sahib required all who wanted to take amrit, to be present with a turban or keski? That included women.
There is also a sakhi that describes how Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself told Mai Bhago to cover her kesh with a turban. Do you think he was trying to make her into a man? Maybe you should take it up with him! If it was perfectly ok for Mai Bhago then it's ok for Kaurs today especially those who look to Mai Bhago as an example. Stop trying to alienate them.
 

I do believe animals are intelligent in their own way but their intelligences isn't the same as a human. Humans and animals can relate to each other on the grounds of empathy.

So now you are suggesting that Singhnis were not trained to defend themselves either? (implying she would have been seen as 'weak' and unable to defend herself thus opening them up to an attack?) Need I remind you of Mai Bhago? 
Anyway, Nihung Singhnis were always required to tie dastars.  It's in their maryada. It's also in taksali maryada as well.  So for both those sampardas, women are requried. And since both are supposed to be going back all the way to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's time.... also Mai Bhago was told directly by Guru Ji to tie a turban. It's also in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's 52 Hukams that everyone must tie a turban. (and it does not state only males). 

The photo I posted the Singh is wearing kacheras... and the turban style is Nihung style... in fact nihung Singhnis have always tied dastars.  

I agree, the skimpy choli is not becoming of a Singhni.  She looks like a bimbo showing off her body.  And rehetnamas ALL are clear that kesh must be covered at all times, so even if a SInghni chooses not to tie turban (as per SRM being optional) then she should still cover with a chunni.  However as I posted above, both taksal maryada and nihung maryada explicitly state it's required of both males and females to tie a keski / dastar. Whether or not they do it consistently is a different story. But ALL of the Nihung SInghnis I know tie dastars and were told they were required to when they took amrit. 

Akal Takht Sahib would disagree...along with the Panj Pyaras I took amrit from! (have a read about women masands who had authority to initiate via charan amrit) Anyway different topic...look closely at the painting I posted. It's not hair... It's definitely a keski.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji's 52 Hukams:
35 Dastaar binaa nahee rehnaa|
(doesn't say only men, so women too are required)
"Each candidate for Baptism be made to wear kachhehra, tie hair in a topknot and cover the same with dastaar; wear Sri Sahib (i.e. Kirpan) in Gaatra (shoulder belt). Then he/she should stand with folded hands. (Rahitnama Bhai Daya Singh Ji)
Taksal Maryada:
For the respect of your hair, two turbans are to be tied, tying each layer one at a time.  There should be a small turban tied underneath and a larger one tied above this.  Women must not plait their hair and should keep their hair tied in a bun/top-knot, in order to respect your Kesh a small turban should be tied. 
The Nihang Bibian are dastaardhari, and many contend maintain the original form and discipline of the Khalsa.  Their Nitnem Gutka defines that every Gursikh man and woman (Singh and Singhni is the wording used) should have a blue keski in their hair.
Okay now let's see what you have as weight on this issue!

I take it you are against Singhnis wearing turbans... That photo above you can't tell if she is Sikh or Hindu.... so much for standing out. Not only that, she appears to have a nose piercing which is a big no no after taking Amrit.  Rest of jewelry is also debatable as some sects rehet maryada even is against jewelry at all. 
Here is a historical painting showing a keski on the woman. This depiction the woman looks much more like a Sikh. Wearing bana and keski and no nose piercing and no belly showing from skimpy choli and a mountain of jewelry and makeup. Since the Gurus advocated that 'naam' is our jewelry, I find it strange that Sikh women would have been made up like painted dolls. I think this painting below is much more accurate:

You guys are going about in circles discussing things that have already been discussed hundreds of times here on the forum. Stop wasting each others time by repeating yourselves over and over again. I am locking this topic; if people wish to read about the subjects they can search into the earlier topics regarding female rights in Sikhi.

So then what things in Sikhi did the Gurus give to women that men dont have?  If rights are given to men that women dont have certainly there would be things to balance it out that women have which men dont? And dont say childbirth because that has nothing to do with religion. I mean in the religion. Because if rights were given to men more than women, then it very much does make a statement of superiority and preference. How are the women supposed to feel when the only reason they have these fewer less rights than you, is their gender (something they had no control over)?  Certainly seems like Waheguru is giving preference to some souls over others no? To be born in a male body is then a privilege while being born a female which already has hardships like childbirth is even less privileged with these fewer less rights in Sikhi.  
You really have to stop doing nindiya of people especially her. 
How do you explain the tuk CdnSikhGirl posted above?
As gurmukh look upon all with single eye of equality for in each and every heart the divine light is contained.  Are you gurmukh or manmukh? The choice is yours.