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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Jageera in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    The most important thing I've learned is to avoid the company of those who still indulge in intoxicants no matter for whatever reason. Let them curse and mock you,you carry on ,find new friends,if none available pick up a new hobby.
    Get a habit of exercising,that helps alot.
    Do your nitnem and simran daily,as much as you can,when you can.Try watching Bhai Simranjeet Tohana on youtube,has a channel Waheguru Waheguru,posts highly informative vids that teach simran.
    A tip,when having strong urges to drink etc,try to take the money that you plan to buy the bottle with,and give it to some beggars or Gurudwara,or buy food and donate somewhere,just anything charitable to burn the exact amount the bottle costs.It helps you change your mind as you see the same money that is gonna get you piss drunk is able to help others.
    Wish you the best brother.Even if you fall get up and try again immediately.
    Slowly with time,there would be a stronger arm that holds you and makes sure you never fall again,but we need to work hard to develop that level of faith.
     
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to LettingGo in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    @Jageera Veer ji, would love to hear how your recovery/life/spiritual journey is going?
    My experience has been that relapse (fortunately and unfortunately) has been part of the journey and has humbled me again and again just enough so that I may be ready again to ‘give myself completely’ to play that game of love our dear Guru ji speaks off (“Jio tho prem kiln ka chao.... “ ) . I’m just Sharing my experience here, not saying I that it is will be the same for others.
    My experience is that of the last 10 years after being introduced to recovery (through drug and alcohol treatment centres which focused on many tools including 12 step recovery), Guru ji certainly was the ‘power greater than myself’ that I incorporated and it was easier to reconnect as I had grown up with it all around me.  I have spent most of these years clean as a result, however despite wonderful gifts flooding back into my life (more talking non-material gifts here), for me it remains on the level of a daily commitment, reallly moment to moment to choose the path being ‘liv’ or ‘taat’. Have to remind myself that it is Gurprasad that a pathway of recovery was even shown to me, that I am able to take a breath and that really I cannot take credit for all the grace that Guru bestows on me.
     
    Above, I am referring to relapses after having being introduced to whatever method of recovery and finding great excitement in being clean, feeling Guru Ji’s blessing and love and knowing that ‘void’ was indeed a spiritual one and was being filled and that intoxication was not even a thought — through to the addiction, 5 doots, ego, the ‘disease’, ‘kaal’ whatever you wish to call it taking over and eventually a relapse.

    It has been painful and I do have a growing fear that I may have squandered the gift sometimes but I hope you are enjoying a new life and Guruji continues to guide your way home.
    Would love to connect and hear from you :) 
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Jageera in Battling Addiction with Gurbani   
    Much better than before.Healthier with a much calmer mind.Thanks for inquiring.
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Soulfinder in Sant Jawala Singh Milap with Sant Aya Singh Ji Hotimardhan   
    https://youtu.be/assNwYqGYME
     
    Listen at 1:20:00 onwards dhan sant ji
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to sarabatam in Sant Jawala Singh Milap with Sant Aya Singh Ji Hotimardhan   
    refererence: The Radiance of complete journey to Akaal Purkh
    chapter- Sant baba Aiya Singh Hoti Mardan giving divine sermons( on love) to Sant baba jawala Singh Ji.
    What is love?
    Love: Love is the divine law. It will win where reason fails.
    God is love and love is God.
    It is to surrender one's self to the beloved and giving away own heart and moving like a bewildered person. If you want to know about love, then ask love itself. Do not ask anybody else, he will not answer !. Only love knows how to describe itself lovely. It will explain pretty well what it is. True love means to give up possession or self. Until ego is renounced no one can find that path of love. Cleanse your heart, like a mirror(glass) clear and simple. So long heart has imprints of lust one cannot see the face of love. Love gives life to humans, true love negates greed, Kabir sahib says: Everybody talks about love, yet no one expereinces love. Only such a person knows love, as remains, imbided in it day and night. If love came and gone, everybody saw it but if one cries now then laughs next moment, it is not love.
    Shalok Mohalla 4 (p-301)
    My body and mind are ever imbued with my lord's love,
    Be though merciful, O god, that I Abide in Guru's peace. (1)
    God's love grants such a high vision that to even a helpless that he does not care about the kings(Master of corwn) and throne, lover weaves gorgeous clothes like attish and kim khwab with the blood of his heart and spreads under the feet of his beloved. Only lover can help someone to reach God's court and attaining to such a position is real ascention to God's place(Heaven). If you want to read the true story of ascention of love then look at the face of some true lover. From his face, one can have the glimplse of love. In love, Gardens of happiness bloom in heart's blood. Lovers are always absorbed in God's love. On this path several mansoors turn down worldy honours and choose to kiss the crucifixion instead. How can one gain the wealth of divine love? Without guide's instruction it is not possible. Only some one with large heart can win this with God's grace. How to recognise love? If you find someone lost in despair and disheartned he is deviod of love. He does not belong to the realm of love. Even though studded with thorns, a lover is always happy like some body in garden in spring. Find not such a one lonely because he is always in God's embrace. Should I offer Nimaz (Muslim prayer) or look in your way? How can I visit kahba (God's place in holy mecca)
    Bulleh shah
    The Nimaz of memories lie in bowing down before God and lovers Nimaz in forgetting one's body.
    Ablution of memories is in washing hands and feet but lover's ablution is washing hands off the world. Unless you take your hands off the worldy tempations do not remember God because without Wuzzo, Nimaz is not acceptable in Islamic Code(Shria).
    Having delivered such lovely sermon, sahib siri baba aiya singh ji hoti mardan waley threw glance towards the sipahi(jawala singh). Lover had filled his goblet of heart with love..tears of joy began to role down his face and his head tilted towards baba ji's feet. Eyes of mind became Ganga-Jamuna and he washed baba ji's feet with tears. It was like his own heart cleaned up.. his forehead got blessed with baba ji's feet touch. The way of love began to rise in his heart and his tongue un-intentionally moved in meditation. Glands of knowledge opened up. Heart began to feel coolness of love. Light flashed up. Six close cycles(chakars) turned up. Petals blossomed up. Unstruck melodies became aloud. All hair turned into tongues and every single hair changed into divine word. He began to realise all around. Baba Aya Singh Ji merged jawala singh ji into sargun-nirgun. There was flood of light all around. Having done this miracle, Baba Ji again came into being and turned jawala singh to an saint. He lifted him from his feet, took him in embrace and asked, "Now tell me, do you know me or not? "Jawala Singh began to weep in low and said, "By your grace, I have come to know of my real self. I am thankful to you I have realised that I have been your servant since many births. You are my mentor(Murshid). Then Baba Jawala Singh became silent. Baba Aya Singh Ji thus turned sipahi into saint and blended him into his own being.
    Grace of Give commandmends given by Baba Ji:
    1. Remember God breath by breath
    2. Never be egoist.
    3. Keep company of those detached from the world.
    4. Do not Beg.
    5. Be aloof.
     
    Sant jawala Singh Ji listened to the commandments and dutyfully observed all throughout life
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Noobhere in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Here is a video of sant baba isher singh ji explaining how dhroo bhagat meditated. He mentions he used pranayam and meditated on chaturbhuj(4arms) saroop and merged with waheguru. There are many parts but this video is the final part on dhroo bhagat. He explains in this video. 
    I personally believe that everyone have to have a guru in order to merge with god because guru is intermediary. However i dont think so guru nanak was the guru that bhagats like kabir ji had. A pooran bhramgyani is also like a satguru, so they had these pooran bhramgyanis as their guru and merged with god.
    Bhul chuk maaf.
     
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to paapiman in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    wjkk wjkf
    There is no doubt that there are non-Sikh Pooran Brahamgyanis, but Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev jee Maharaaj is the MASTER of all Pooran Brahamgyanis.
    Maharaaj is a Satguru AND an incarnation of the Almighty God at the same time.
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Noobhere in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    True veer ji. Guru nanak is the waheguru in sargun roop that every jiv merges into. Just that we are lucky because our sat guru is god himself. That is first he show us his sargun roop than he shows us his nirgun roop. As bhai gurdas ji says: par brahm pooran braham gur nanak deo.
    Also SGGSJ says : Gur nanak nanak har soi.
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Soulfinder in Sant Jawala Singh Milap with Sant Aya Singh Ji Hotimardhan   
    Waheguru Dhan Sant Baba Jawala Singh JI
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to SAadmin in Sant Jawala Singh Milap with Sant Aya Singh Ji Hotimardhan   
    Sant Jawala Singh Milap with Sant Aya Singh Ji Hotimardhan

    Sant baba Jawala Singh Ji was part of 34 Regiment and there were sikhs in 14, 24, 34, 36, 45, 47 regiments. All the paltans in Rawalpindi were linked with Hotimardan. The subedar(head) of 34 regiment with his team went to see Sant baba Aya Singh Ji hotimardhan. When subedar and his team arrived at the hotimardan to get darshan of baba Ji. Sant baba Aya Singh Ji called Sant baba jawala singh in the Hazoori out of many serving sikhs within in 34 Regiment. Sant baba Jawala Singh Ji went up to baba ji and bow down on sant baba aya singh ji Charan. On sunday, when 34 regiment team wanted to go team. Sant baba Aya Singh Ji asked subedar(head) of that team to bring Sant baba Jawala Singh Ji next week with him. Upon hearing Amrit Bachan of Sant baba Aya Singh Ji, subedar was shocked and later told this to Sant baba Jawala Singh ji .

    When 34 regiment subedar and Baba Jawala Singh Ji went again next week. Subedar asked Baba Jawala Singh Ji to go infront and pay his respect to Sant baba aya singh ji. Sant baba Jawala Singh Ji bowed down on baba ji's charan. It was such a blissful expereince that he didn't even realize to take his head off from Baba Aya Singh Charan..

    Sant baba aya singh ji then picked up Baba Jawala Singh and baba jawala singh had tears in his eyes. There was this unexplained attachment baba jawala singh ji had towards baba aya singh ji. Baba Ji told baba jawala singh ji to get up in the Amrit vela and come to him.

    Sant baba Jawala Singh ji couldn't sleep at night and was very excited. Baba ji took the shower at the well and at 4 am, with subedar went straight to the dera while reciting

    "Mith Bolara Ji, Har Sajan Swami Mora" ||

    Baba Aya Singh Ji was in "Sat Chit Anand Avasta and was completely leen(merged) in Nirvkalap Samadhi".

    Sant baba Jawala Singh went inside and did "Daunduat Bandhana". Baba Aya Singh looked at sant ji with Amrit Ras and looked into his eys and asked "Putar A gaye Ho?" replied Sant Ji , "Ha Pitta Ji ". The way Ram Chandar Ji sat down close to Guru Vishit Ji just like that Baba Aya Singh took Baba Jawala Singh to the side and bring forward fruit of lifetimes meditation and rekinde his passion.

    Baba Aya Singh Ji gave Baba Jawala Singh ji recogniation of top student and gave divine sermons, gave him all the techniques to do naam abhayas(meditation). Baba Aya Singh Ji put his hand on Baba Jawala Singh Ji and unveiled 5 types of kosh(vices) and took his atma and leen with Bhram. Baba Aya Singh with his one look itself took all the vices from Baba Jawala Singh Ji. The blessing were so powerful that much acculamated flith and karams were gone out and 18 Sidhiyas and Nuo Nidhiyas were after Baba Jawala Singh Ji. Now Baba Aya Singh ji made sant ji just like him. He made him from glass to gold. Baba Jawala Singh Ji realized that "Jo bhranda suhi pind" the outer creation of world was inside the body.

    Baba Aya Singh Ji gave Sant ji five bachans-

    1 Swas- Swas Simran
    2. Ahankar birthi kaddi accept nahi karni (never accept pride/egoistical thoughts).
    3. Attend sangat of Mahapursh and Ascetics
    4. Don't beg from anybody.
    5. Leave the regiment his work (This wouldn't apply to us, unless we have good karams).

    Now baba jawala singh ji became puran Sant. Baba Aya singh ji blessed him fully.

    Once baba jawala singh ji got premission from murshid to go to the river for meditation. Baba Ji took off all his clothes and sat day and night in meditation. When the time came for duty of his job and subedar did head count in his team. Baba Jawala Singh Ji was missing. Subedar asked baba aya singh ji, where is he?. Baba Aya Singh Ji told him to look around near the river.. Subedar went to see him and found him in the samadhi with no clothes on. Subedar went back to baba aya singh ji and told he is in samadhi. Baba Aya singh ji told subedar to whisper in his ears that i called him. Baba Jawala Singh ji wore his clothes and hurry went to baba aya singh ji.

    Baba Aya Singh ji asked baba jawala singh ji, why you were sitting naked? Baba Jawala Singh Ji replied, these clothes which will be replaced eventually and you told me not to beg.. Baba Aya singh told him that vahiguroo will do kirpa. Baba Aya singh asked baba jawala singh to sit outside of the regiment and meditatie. Baba Jawala Singh said there is a risk of those dangerous pathans and evil souls and Baba Aya Singh Ji said not one person, evil soul will come towars you and touch you. Baba Aya Singh Ji asked subedar that Baba Jawala Singh shouldnt have to stay in line like the team members and subedar said , "Satbachan".
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to ragnarok in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Only suggestion would be to change bath time to just after 12am.
     
    Regarding point 3, don't try to exert effort now that you've decided to do things 'properly'. Check out mingyur rinpoche's videos on youtube on how to just observe without effort and Gurbani also says 'Tu karta karna mai nahi. Ja hau kari na hoey'. 
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Ragmaala in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Yes, after 12 am is Amritvela.
     
    Yes, for sure
     
    Obstacles are good sign in spiritual journey. That means your bad karams are working out plus kaal/kalyug/maya/ are trying to distract you from psth. Its good sign. Keep at it. Stay relaxed dont tense
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Trimandeep Singh in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Yes, Amrit resides inside us. But we can drink it from inside only when we become a Sikh of guru, do Amrit Vela, do lots of naam abhyaas and Gurbani abhyaas and then finally, Amrit trickles down and gurmukh tastes it. I don't have much knowledge. You can read books of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji- Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar and Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamayee.
    If you read these two books, you'll get a clear understanding.
    Maafi ji
    Trimandeep Singh 
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to paapiman in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    wjkk wjkf
    Are you ready to become an Amritdhari? 
    Do you know of any Gurmukh Mahapurakh?
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to PCSJZ in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    We will have to agree to disagree. 
     
    Waheguru is the same for all. Gurbani says he calls all of us regardless of caste colour, amritdhari or not. Putting restrictions on who can or cant chant his name is totally against SGGS ji teachings and no video will convince me otherwise but feel free to carry on telling people who can and cant chant his name. 
     
    sometimes these things can be made far more complicated than they need to be, your post is an example of this.
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to paapiman in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Amritvela does start at 12 am, but cant you do Naam simran between 2 am and 5 am?
    Have you tried doing a Jaap of a Shabad for 40 days (Chaliya)? Try doing that and see if you feel any difference.
    Do you have a favorite Shabad/Gurbani Tuk/Path?
    Daas lives in Canada too.
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Noobhere in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Not yet i am still growing my hairs as i was mona before. But i plan to do it within next year. I want to make sure i can preserve my amritwela before i commit myself to guru.
    And no i dont know of any present day mahapurakh. I live in canada though.
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Trimandeep Singh in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    Bhai sahib ji, I humbly ask you to please quote any of my point that you found wrong or manmat. I would request you to continue to debate on this but in a healthy manner. I would like to know your pakh (point) also. 
    Guru sahib kirpa karan
    Trimandeep Singh
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Trimandeep Singh in Beginner at Naam abhyas. Need help please.   
    sakar roop of guru sahib as in keeping a photo in front? If this is what you are saying, then I would not recommend this. Having a photo of guru sahib while japping naam helps a lot but in short run only. A very experienced naam abhiyasi gurmukh Bhai Raghbir Singh Bir writes when he reached a higher avastha, he couldn't focus on meditating on the nirgun roop of vaheguru. 
    May guru sahib bless you consistent amrit vela, strength to fight sleep and remain steadfast when maaya attacks you. If you continue to read lots of bani, you'll surely have a divine experience when you receive khande baate di pahaul.
    guru rakha
    Trimandeep Singh
    Trimandeep Singh
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to Big Boss in Extra Pauri of Japji Sahib - Udaasi   
    So had a quick question, maybe someone knows about this?
    My father's friend, who is a Sikh involved with the Udaasi panth, says there was a sakhi I believe with Guru Angad Dev Ji. This was when a person had died and a fellow Sikh read Japji Sahib over this dead body and this came back to life. They say there was a extra pauri in Japji Sahib which was originally included in Guru Nanak Dev Jis version however it was taken out by the 2nd guru to make sure such a act doesn't happen again. The Udaasis know of this pauri.
    Would anyone be aware of such a thing? If so, would you know what the pauri is? 
    I'm not expecting to get this so easily... ha.
     
    *Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa, Vaheguru ji ki Fateh*
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to chatanga1 in Can Women Be In The Panj Pyare   
    We don't. It's as simple as that. The Panj being male is not to insinuate any such thing that you are saying. If you still insist on your method of reasoning, others will ask why there are no females writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Then they can also claim that the Guru's only spoke of equality but didn't practice it.  Where does that leave you personally?
     
     
    Deg is given to 5 Singhs, so one would expect them not to be drunks.
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to dalsingh101 in Giani Gian Singh - Twarikh Guru Khalsa extract (translation by me and Bhagat Singh)   
    I came across this translation me and Bhagat worked on a good few years ago. It's from Giani Gian Singh's Twarikh Guru Khalsa. Niddar Singh put a smaller extract of this out, which brought it to the wider sangat's attention - including me (and no, I have no connection to him before anyone asks). 
    The translation is rough as heck and me and Bhagat didn't agree on bits, so I take the responsibility of any flaws. I'll give page references to the original work later, and I hope to write up a little commentary on it some time and maybe even translate a few more paragraphs. 
     
    ਪਿੱਛੇ ਦਿਖਾਏ ਇਲਮਾਂ, ਹੁਨਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਬਨਾਵਟ ਸਮਝਣ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਸੀਂ ਅਪਣੇ ਨੇਤ੍ਰੀ ਦੇਖੀ ਵਾਰਤਾ ਦੱਸਦੇ ਹਾਂ।ਇਲਮ ਤੀਰੰਦਾਜ਼ੀ ਤੇ ਲੱਕੜੀ ਬਾਜ਼ੀ ਦਾ ਥੋੜ੍ਹੇ ਹੀ ਬਰਸ ਹੋਏ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਵਿਚਅਜੇਹਾ ਚਰਚਾ ਸੀ ਕਿ ਜਿਸਨੂੰ ਸੁਣਕੇ ਅਨੇਕ ਅੰਗ੍ਰੇਜ਼ੀ ਪੜ੍ਹੇ ਹੋਏ ਗੱਭਰੂ ਅਚਰਜ ਮਨਣਗੇ। ਸਰਦਾਰ ਅਮਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਮਜੀਠੀਆ, ਬੁੱਧ ਸਿੰਘ, ਵਸਾਵਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੰਧਾ ਵਾਲੀਏ ਵਗ਼ੈਰਾ ਅਨੇਕ ਸਰਦਾਰ ਕੜਾਹੇ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਦੀ ਤੀਰ ਨਿਕਾਲ ਦਿੰਦੇ ਸਨ ਤੇ ਜਿੱਥੇ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ਓਥੇ ਹੀ ਬਾਣ ਮਾਰਦੇ। ਭਾਈ ਮਨੀ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਸਕਾ ਭਤੀਜਾ ਏਸ ਤਵਾਰੀਖ ਦੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਦਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਭਾਈ ਦਰਗਾਹਾਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ‘ਸ਼ਬਦ ਬੇਧ’ ਅਰਥਾਤ ਅੰਧੇਰੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਿੱਥੋਂ ਆਵਾਜ਼ ਆਂਵਦੀ ਉਸ ਦੇ ਮੂੰਹ ਯਾ ਦੇਹ ਵਿੱਚ ਅਚੂਕ ਤੀਰ ਮਾਰਦਾ। ਏਹ ਬਾਤ ਕਨਖਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਅਨੇਕ ਆਦਮੀ ਸੁਣੀ ਹੋਈ ਸੁਣਾਯਾ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਓਹ ਓਥੇ ਹੀ ਜਾ ਰਹੇ ਸਨ। ਡੇਰਾ ਭੀ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਾ ਓਥੇ ਮਸ਼ਹੂਰ ਹੈ। ਅਨੇਕ ਦਰੱਖਤਾਂ ਦੇ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਓਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ ਤੀਰ ਕੱਢੇ ਸਨ ਅਤੇ ਲੱਕੜੀ ਬਾਜ਼ੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਅਸਾਂ ਏਥੋਂ ਤੱਕ ਦੇਖੇ ਹਨ ਜੋ ਮੰਜੇ ਹੇਠੋਂ ਕਾਂਉ ਨੂੰ ਬਾਹਰ ਨਾ ਜਾਣ ਦੇਣਾ। ਬਾਕੀ ਜੰਗ ਦਾ ਸਾਮਾਨ ਫੁਲਾਦੀ ਸੰਜੋਆਂ ਪੇਟੀ ਚਿਰਾਨੇ ਟੋਪ ਇਤਨੇਭਾਰੇ ਅਸਾਂ ਦੇਖੇ ਹਨ ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਹੁਣ ਦੇ ਗੱਭਰੂ ਮਸਾਂ ਚੁੱਕਣ ਤੇ ਓਹ ਸਿੰਘ ਓਦੂੰ ਦੂਣੇ ਭਾਰੇ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਸੰਜੋਆਂ ਪਹਿਨ ਕੇ ਜੰਗ ਕਰਦੇ ਹੁੰਦੇ ਜਾਂ ਭਾਂਜ ਪੈਂਦੀ ਤਾਂ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਸੰਜੋਆਂ ਸਮੇਤ ਬੀਸ-ਬੀਸਕੋਹ ਨੱਠੇ ਚਲੇ ਜਾਂਦੇ। ਬਾਕੀ ਜੇ ਲੁੱਟ ਦਾ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਮਣ ਦੋ ਮਣ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਚਾਲੀ-ਚਾਲੀ ਕੋਹ ਪਹੁੰਚ ਕੇ ਦਮ ਲੈਂਦੇ ਸਨ।
     
    For those who consider the previously described skills and knowledge to be fictitious, I’ll now give an account of what I have witnessed with my very own eyes. It’s only been a few years since the arts of archery and stick fighting were discussed in such a way that should [today's] young British-educated men have heard it, they would've considered it astounding. Sardars like Amar Singh Majittia, Buddh Singh, Wasava Singh Sandawalia and many other chieftains could shoot arrows straight through [metal] cauldrons; their arrows striking whichever targets they desired. Bhai Mani Singh ji’s nephew, [who was] the author of this historical document's forefather [called] Baba Dargaha Singh ji could 'pierce the word' meaning that even in the dark, they could accurately shoot an arrow into the mouth or body of anyone who made a sound. 
     In the town of Kankhal these matters are spoken of by many men and they will inform you of as much because they [the previously mentioned sardars] used to go there. Even their camp is well known at that place. There, they shot arrows straight through many trees and I have seen stick fighters who have reached a point where they can keep a crow trapped underneath a bed. I’ve seen other materials of war like steel chainmail, belts, body armour and helmets that were so heavy that the strapping youth of today would just about be able to pick them up and those Singhs would go to war wielding and wearing weaponry and chainmail that was twice as heavy or they would undergo forced marches of approximately 50 kilometres (20 koh) with such weaponry and armour. They would only stop to rest after reaching destinations roughly 100 kilometres away and that too carrying any looted materials that came to hand.
     
    ਭਰੋਸਾ ਹੈ ਹੁਣ ਦੇ ਜਵਾਨ ਏਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਤਾਕਤਾਂ ਤੇ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਵਿੱਦਿਆ ਨੂੰ ਭੀ ਸ਼ਾਇਦ ਹੀ ਸੱਚ ਮੰਨਣ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਏਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਓਹ ਕਮਾਣਾਂ ਦੇਖੀਆਂ ਭੀ ਨਹੀਂ । ਚਿੱਲੇ ਕੀ ਚੜ੍ਹਾਉਣ? ਏਸੇ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਇਲਮ ਤੇ ਹੁਨਰ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਸਿਰ ਉਨੱਤੀ ਪਰ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਮਿਟ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ । ਸੰਮਤ ੧੯੧੪ ਬਿਕ੍ਰਮੀ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਤੀਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਦੇ ਭੱਥੇ ਭਰੇ ਹੋਏ ਕਮਾਨਾਂ, ਬੰਦੂਕਾਂ ਤੋੜੇਦਾਰਾਂਤੇ ਪੱਥਰ ਕਲਾਂ ਤਲਵਾਰਾਂ, ਨੇਜ਼ੇ, ਬਰਛੀਆਂ, ਸਾਂਗਾਂ, ਕਟਾਰ ਪੇਸ਼ਕਬਜ਼, ਤਮੰਚੇ, ਪਸਤੌਲ ਢਾਲਾਂ ਆਦਿਕ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਸੰਜੋਇ ਆਦਿਕ ਬਖਤਰ ਘਰ ਘਰ ਹੁੰਦੇ ਸੇ । ਸਭ ਲੋਕ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਵਿੱਦ੍ਯਾ ਸਿੱਖਦੇ ਸਿਖਾਂਵਦੇ ਘਰ ਬੈਠੇ ਹੀ ਪੱਕੇ ਸਿਪਾਹੀ ਬਣੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਸੇ ।I
    I believe that the young, strapping lads of today may have trouble accepting such strength and martial skills to be a reality because they haven't even seen those bows, let alone string one? In this fashion, many arts and skills - after reaching a highly developed stage become extinct at the hands of time. Prior to 1914 Bikram there were quivers packed with many varieties of arrows, guns, matchlocks, stone-cutting sabres, javelins, spears and pikes. Coats of mail and armoury, as well as weaponry such as punch daggers, Afghani stilettos, revolvers, pistols, shields and so forth were kept in each and every home. All the people would be learning or teaching the art of weaponry, and even whilst seated within their own homes they remained as true soldiers.
     

    ਹੁਣ ਤਾਂ ਏਸ ਹੁਨਰ ਦੀ ਚਰਚਾ ਵੀ ਨਹੀਂ l ਬਹਾਦਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਪੁੱਤ੍ਰ ਕਿਰਾੜ ਬਣ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ l ਏਹ ਭੀ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਵਰਤਣ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਵਿੱਦਿਆ ਸ੍ਵ੍ਪਨਾ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਤ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ l ਪਚਾਸ ਕੁਬਰਸ ਹੋਰ ਨੂੰ ਏਸ ਵਿੱਦ੍ਯਾ ਦੀ ਸਖੋਪਤ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਝੂਠ ਹੀ ਮੰਨੀ ਜਾਊ l ਏਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਹੋਰ ਭੀ ਸੰਸਾਰਕ ਵਿਹਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਇਲਮਾਂ ਹੁਨਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਅਦਲਾ ਬਦਲੀ, ਉਤਪਤੀ ਪਰਲਯ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ ਹੈl ਦੇਖੋ ਕਦੇ ਓਹ ਸਮਾਂ ਸੀ ਜਦ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਬਣਮਾਣੂ ਬਣੇ ਹੋਏ ਪਰਬਤਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਕੰਦਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਬਿਰਛਾਂ ਹੇਠ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਬਿਸਤ੍ਰੇ ਸੁਖੀ ਸੌਂ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਸੇ, ਹੁਣ ਨਰਮ ਮੁਲਾਇਮ ਮਖ਼ਮਲੀ ਸੇਜ ਭੀ ਚੁਭੱਦੀਹੈ l ਕਦੇ ਅੰਜੀਰ ਤੇ ਭੋਜ ਪਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਨੰਗ ਢੱਕਦੇ ਸੇ, ਹੁਣ ਭਾਂਤ-ਭਾਂਤ ਦੇ ਰੇਸ਼ਮੀ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਭੀ ਪਸੰਦ ਨਹੀਂ l
    Now there isn't even any mention of these skills and the sons of the brave are becoming business men. Even for those of us that continue to practice these martial arts, they are beginning to feel like a dream. In about fifty years these arts will be lost completely and [their existence] considered a lie. This is the way other professions and skills continue to change - their development and destruction a constant occurrence. Look, there was a time when men were forest-dwellers and lived in caves up on mountains, and slept peacefully under trees without any mattress; nowadays even a soft, smooth velvet bed is considered uncomfortable. Sometimes they covered their nakedness with fig leaves and tree bark, but in these days even a wide variety of silk garments aren't satisfactory.
     
    ਕਦੇ ਸਾਗ ਪੱਤ੍ਰ, ਕੰਦ ਮੂਲ, ਜੰਡ ਫਲੀ, ਡੇਲਾ ਪੀਲੂੰ ਛੱਕ ਕੇ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਦਾ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਕਰਦੇ; ਹੁਣ ਛੱਤੀ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਦੇ ਭੋਜਨ ਗਲ ਫਸਦੇ ਹਨ। ਪਹਿਲੇ ਛੋਟੀ ਨਦੀ ਤੋਂਪਾਰ ਉੱਤਰਨਾ ਔਖਾ ਸੀ। ਬੇੜੀਆਂ ਖਿਚਦੇ ਥੱਕ ਜਾਂਦੇ। ਜਹਾਜ਼ਾਂ ਉੱਤੇ ਪਾਲਾਂ ਤਾਣ ਕੇ ਅਕਾਸ ਵੱਲ ਅੱਖਾਂ ਚੁੱਕ -ਚੁੱਕ ਦੇਖਦੇ, ਪੀਰ ਮਨਾਂਵਦੇ ਅਨੁਕੂਲ ਪੌਨ ਨੂੰਉਡੀਕਦੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਸਨ; ਹੁਣ ਅਗਨਬੋਟਾਂ ਤੇ ਪੁਲਾਂ ਦੇ ਆਸਰ ਬੜੇ ਬੜੇ ਦਰਿਆਵਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਆਸਾਨ ਲੰਘ ਜਾਈਦਾ ਹੈ
    ਕਦੇ ਚਿੱਠੀ ਪੱਤ੍ਰ ਭੇਜਣਾ ਮੁਸ਼ਕਲ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਸੀ, ਹੁਣ ਹਜ਼ਾਰਾਂ ਕੋਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਬਰ ਸ਼ੀਘ੍ਰ ਆ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।ਕਦੇ ਚਾਲੀ ਪੰਜਾਹ ਕੋਹ ਜਾਣਾ ਮੌਤ ਦੀ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਸੀ, ਹੁਣਰੇਲ ਗੱਡੀ ਲੋਰੀ ਦਿੰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਸੁੱਤਿਆਂ ਪਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਹਜ਼ਾਰਾਂ ਕੋਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਲੈ ਜਾ ਬਿਠਾਂਵਦੀ ਹੈ। ਕਦੇ ਧਨੀ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਜੇਹੜੇ ਪੁਸਤਕ ਔਖੇ ਲੱਭਦੇ ਸਨ ਹੁਣ ਪਾਖਾਨ ਯੰਤ੍ਰਟਾਈਪ ਦੇ ਛਪੇ ਹੋਏ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਸ਼ੁੱਧ ਮੁਫ਼ਤ ਵਾਂਗੂੰ ਸਸਤੇ ਲੱਭਦੇ ਹਨ। ਕਦੇ ਚਿੱਟਾ ਕੱਪੜਾ ਪਾ ਕੇ ਦਸ ਕੋਹ ਜਾਣ ਤੋਂ ਡਰਦੇ ਥਰ ਥਰ ਕੰਬਦੇ, ਹੁਣ ਸੋਨਾ ਉਛਾਲਦੇ ਜਾਓ ਕੋਈ ਤੱਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦਾ।
    There was a time when people used to eat things like leafy greens [ਸਾਗ ਪੱਤ੍ਰ], root vegetables [ਕੰਦ ਮੂਲ], the pods of the Prosopis cineraria tree [ਜੰਡ ਫਲੀ], as well as the fruits of the Capparis aphylla tree [ਡੇਲਾ - literally 'eye-ball' due to shape and size of the fruit] and the Garcinia Morella tree [ਪੀਲੂੰ ] and thank Waheguru [these are examples of very common, simple food]; now 36 varieties of food are unpalatable. It used to be difficult to cross over a smallish river as pulling the boat across was exhausting. On [larger ships] people would repeatedly peer into the sky, painfully awaiting favourable winds to power their sails; whereas crossing massive rivers is easy with the help of steam boats and bridges today. 
    Sending letters used to be difficult, now news from thousands of miles away arrives rapidly. Traveling 100 or 150 kilometres (40/50 koh) used to be a sure sign of death, but now trains can carry you thousands of kilometres away singing you a lullaby whilst you sleep. The books that even wealthy people had difficulty in procuring can now be found for practically free in beautiful, clear, printed publications. People would shudder in fear at the thought of traveling 25 kilometres wearing white clothes; now people toss gold around and no one gives it a second look. 
     
    ਕਦੇ ਇੱਕ ਆਦਮੀ ਪੜ੍ਹਿਆ ਹੋਯਾ ਔਖਾ ਲੱਭਦਾ ਸੀ, ਹੁਣ ਘਰ ਘਰ ਅੰਗ੍ਰੇਜ਼ੀ, ਉਰਦੂ ਗੁਰਮੁਖੀ ਪੜ੍ਹੇ ਹੋਏ ਹਰ ਜਗ੍ਹਾ ਹਾਜ਼ਰ ਹਨ । ਕਦੇ ਮੋਟਾ ਕੱਪੜਾ ਭੀ ਜੁਲਾਹੇ ਮਿੰਨਤਾਂ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਉਣਕੇ ਦਿੰਦੇ, ਹੁਣ ਕਲਾ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਘੰਟੇ ਪਹਿਰਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਸੌ ਸੌ ਮਣ ਪੱਕੀ ਰੂਈਂ ਦਾ ਮਲਮਲਖਾਸਾ ਆਦਿਕ ਮਨਭਾਉਂਦਾ ਕੱਪੜਾ ਤਿਆਰ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ । ਜੋ ਅਮੀਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਔਖਾ ਲੱਭਦਾ ਸੀ, ਹੁਣ ਗ਼ਰੀਬ ਖੁੱਲ੍ਹੇ ਹੰਡਾਂਵਦੇ ਹਨ । ਕਦੇ ਘਾਸ ਦੇ ਕੱਚੇ ਕੋਠਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਭੀ ਗਨੀਮਤ ਸਮਝਦੇ ਤੇ ਬਣਾ ਭੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾਣਦੇ ਸੇ ਹੁਣ ਬੜੇ ਬੜੇ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਮੰਦਰ ਭੀ ਪਸੰਦ ਨਹੀਂ ਆਂਵਦੇ । ਏਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਿਨੋਂ ਦਿਨ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਸੁਖ ਦੇ ਸਮਾਨ ਸਰਬ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ????? ਹੁੰਦੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਹਨ । ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸੋਚ ਕੇ ਦੇਖੋ ਤਾਂ ਏਹ ਸਭ ਤੁਹਾਡੀ ਅਕਲ ਦਾ ਫ਼ਲ ਹੈ ਜੇਹੜੀ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ????? ਨੇ ਹੋਰ ਸਾਰੇ ਜਾਨਦਾਰਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਅਧਿਕ ਬਖ਼ਸ਼ੀ ਹੈ । ਤਾਂ ਤੇ ਓਸ ਦਾ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਕਰੋ ਤੇ ਉਪਕਾਰ ਮੰਨੋ । ਦੇਖੋ, ਚਾਰ ਸੌ ਬਰਸ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਏਹੋ ਅੰਗਰੇਜ਼, ਜੇਹੜੇ ਹੁਣ ਅਕਲ ਤੇ ਇਲਮ ਦਾ ਸੂਰਜ ਬਣ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ; ਏਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਵੱਡੇ ਭੀ ਜੰਗਲਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਦਰੱਖ਼ਤਾਂ ਦੇ ਪੱਤੇ ਅਰ ਛਿੱਲੜ ਦੇ ਕੱਪੜੇ ਪਹਿਨਦੇ, ਦੇਹ ਉੱਤੇ ਰੰਗ ਲਾਂਵਦੇ ਬਨਮਾਣੂਆਂ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਸੇ । ਬਾਕੀ ਬੇਸਮਝੀ ਭੀ ਅਜੇਹੀ ਸੀ ਜੋ ਇੱਕ ਵਾਰੀ ਜੰਗ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਹਾਰ ਕੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਵੱਡੇ ਬੁੱਤ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਦੀ ਨਾਰਾਜ਼ਗੀ ਸਮਝ ਕੇ ਓਹਨੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਚਾਰ ਸੌ ਬਾਲਕ ਓਸ ਦੀ ਬਲੀਦਾਨ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੇ ।

    It used to be difficult to find a single educated man; now there are people educated in English, Urdu and Gurmukhi present in each and every house. Even thick cloth was only available after imploring a weaver to weave it, but today, with the aid of machinery, hundreds and hundreds of maunds [an Indian unit of measurement] of pure cotton muslin and other desirable (?) cloth are prepared in a matter of hours. Things that even the wealthy obtained with great difficulty are now openly worn by poor people. It used to be that impermanent (ਕੱਚੇ) houses made of straw were considered a blessing, and people [generally] didn't even know how to make them,  but now large, beautiful temples aren’t even satisfactory. And in this way, all types of goods catering to your ease are being manufactured on a daily basis. Now, in your mind contemplate and examine: Is all of this derived from your own intelligence, which Ishwar has blessed you with in a greater abundance to the rest of humanity? Then be grateful [to Ishwaar] and accept it all to be a gift. Look, more than four hundred years ago these very English, who today are becoming shining rays of skill and intelligence; even their forefathers used to live in forests wearing clothes made from leaves and skin; they would paint their bodies [presumably a reference to woad] and live like savages. Plus there was such a level of ignorance that once, upon losing a battle (and considering this to be the consequence of the displeasure of their great idol-deity), they sacrificed four hundred of their male children in order to satiate him.
     
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    GurjantGnostic reacted to dalsingh101 in Giani Gian Singh - Twarikh Guru Khalsa extract (translation by me and Bhagat Singh)   
    Found this text in a handwritten manuscript of Giani Giani Singh's Twarikh Guru Khalsa on PDL. It corresponds to the text I posted above, but is also very different. The version above seems to be an expansion/elaboration of the text below. I wonder if we can get more details on this manuscript? I don't know anything about it other than it is connected to an Anurag Singh of Ludhiana? Is it Giani Giani Singh's original manuscript? (Or a copy of it?) 

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    GurjantGnostic reacted to dalsingh101 in Giani Gian Singh - Twarikh Guru Khalsa extract (translation by me and Bhagat Singh)   
    I'm adding this contemporary British account to this thread because it seems to support Giani Gian Singh's account of the weaponry and armory of Sikhs during Sikh raj:
     

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