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i dont, but thats cos of my domestic setup. do it same time-ish every day. Never really considered suraj-dev actually.

according to the janamsakhis, Guru Nanak Dev Ji instrcucts Bhai Mardana not keep his hair uncut.

I know what you mean. i have read gills book and it is vile. but for a newcomer, to anything sikhi, we should be able to be confident enough to say, read both sides and make your mind up.

I havent read it, nor will do any time soon, but looking at reviews of it, is it more about the US farming industry and lack of compassion for animals, or about being vegetarian?




Understandable.

I have met a few Sikhs with this view. But mainly when it came to books about the Khalistan movement.

Take "operation bleustar, the true story" by one KS Brar. Now obviously we know he is going to write that what the army did was correct and such. But how would we know exactly what he has written without reading it. Of course we can intuitively guess it's not going to be truthful or accurate or unbiased etc. But for our own curiosity etc just to know what he has written, we read it.

I think it is may be the same with the british rule. it may be that the book could be solely about how the brits "civilised" barbarian practices of uneducated people, but until we read it we will never know.

My mentor, told me (several times), that the Guru takes us from darkness to light, but the Guru doesnt just tell us about the light, he tells us about the dark as well.

I thought it was a good analogy to apply to this situation where we might hesitate to read books written by the "enemy".
I have bought a long time ago, "the siege within" by mj akbar, and it is shockingly biased against Sikh "terrorists" and full of praise for the indian state. But until i read it, i would never have exercised my own intellect to provide reason and rebuttal to these words, if not for anyone else who happened to read the same drivel, for myself.

But i can understand how some people are reluctant to tread such waters. It is an interesting field. Maybe one for another topic.

The Fall of the Sikh Empire by Alexander Gardner.

This guy was an actual witness to the killing of Chet Singh Bajwa, and sheds light on the death of Kanwar Nau Nihal Singh, where he was also present to the leadup, but not the finale.

Yes it's refering to Ajit Singh Palit. I didn't know that he was given Darbar Sahib by the Emperor Bahadur Shah.

yes it is Bhai Nand Lal's rehitnama. but the oldest surviving rehat is Aad Guru Darbar.

no way!

I hear you bro. Since lockdown last year, work commitments have kept me super duper busy that I don't even have the time or strength for reading anymore nevermind writing on forums. Welcome to life lol.

I hear you bro. Since lockdown last year, work commitments have kept me super duper busy that I don't even have the time or strength for reading anymore nevermind writing on forums. Welcome to life lol.

No, you deviant. What I'm saying is that by saying there are 18ft shaheeds or whatever Thakur Singh has not gone against the essence of Gurmat, but by saying that kudrat is rabb, or that there is no reincarnation is absolutely against gurmat principle.
 
Watch it 12 times and you might understand.

Have you seen any of these paintings ?
 
 
Lol. Working desi time. Only 2 years over.

have watched the video, but whoever makes these videos needs to get the Nihangs to introduce themselves, name, rank and shouni to make it more authentic. This could be passed off as just some random guys. Make it more official.

Niddar Singh is not hot topic, he is a much over due topic.

dont take it too hard surya bhaji. I dont know why the Dal Panth never acted against him earlier. He is bringing Dal Panth into disrepute.

Jatherdar Sahib, may be there was a reason why our Guru told us, only fools argue over flesh.

The video you have shown shows the lack of compassion in commercial farming, where everything is seen as money or not money. Sikhs are just as bad, with their lettting male buffaloes loose on the streets.

I am not vegetarian, but 1 am a supporter of compassion in farming, and that not appies only to animals reared for food, but also to insects and nature that are harmed by commercial farming thorugh the use of pesticides etc..

quite riduculous.

do you look like that with your vest off Shaheediyan Bhaji?

so are the Guru's not one jyot?

there are thousands of differing sects of sadhus repped at Kumbh Mela, what made you identify any of these as Nirmalas/Udasis?

i am a qualified driving instructor, an industry which is so saturated, it doesnt provide a living anymore.

other than the 2 or 4 hours PER WEEK i do that, i am unemployed.

Way to go Bro.

Sure. they make people laugh with their words. But what about Dhadriwale ? He just kisses men to give them Naam Jugti.

Sibling? Wrong again. Sri Dasame Patshah Granth Sahib says that The Sodhis are descendants of Lav Kush. 
 
Do YOU trust Sri Dasme Patshahs Granth Sahib? The same Pracharaks whom you have labelled foolish do.
 
 
How ? By kissing young men on the lips to impart naam jap techniques. That’s why you love ghaghri isn’t it.

Why is placing a pitcher of water by SGGS a ritual or a superstition?