Ragmaala

This does not make sense and it utterly ridiculous imo. Alcohol, even one small drink, increases the GABA , inhibitory neurotransmitter in brain which causes delayed reflexes, motor in coordination, affects your cerebellum which causes imbalance. 
 
As Dal pointed out there are so many inconsistencies. It will only create confusion. Keep it simple. Derive inspiration from your recent Shaheeds like Sant Jarnail Singh Ji. He did not do jhatka to attain bir rass, he did not use afeem or sukha, nor did he drink alcohol before going into battle. He had the power of Naam and Japji Sahib.
Being a Shaheed is not easy. Even if you die in dharam yudh but in your last thoughts your mind is not engrossed in Naam, you will not attain full shaheedi. I will give an example. When Panja Sahib Saka happened, devotees came to Baba Nand Singh and told about the saka how many sikhs got shaheed. Baba Nand Singh ji took a sigh and said in their last moments of death they had feelings of regret, why did they have to die like this, hence their shaheedi was not parvan. Only a Antaryami Brahmgiani can know about the real truth. 
 
imo only the cowards would use alcohol. The real shaheeds like Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Guru Teg Bahadur Ji, Bhai Matidas, Bhai Sati das, Bhai Dyala ji and countless other Singhs are not scared of death. They find it as an opportunity to wed with God. So alcohol to calm your senses or fear before battle does not make sense.
 

hmm Interesting..I am not sure on this one.
My question to a Brahmgyani would be, if there are 10 saroops of Guru Sahib present should we treat is as One Saroop or do we treat it as 10 different bodies.

I do believe that Brahmgyanis do get their knowledge from one true source,and we should put all our confidence in their words. True brahmgyanis will not contradict each other.Guru Nanak Ji is pargat in 10 roops and Gupt in 74 forms as Sants.
Ragmala is core concept of Gurbani, whoever denies it is definitely not all knowing. Meat issue- those on bhagti marag solely definitely against, Baba Thakur Singh issue- definitely a ? Letting hair loose - Guru Amardas Jis killi is still present in Goindwal where he tied his kes, Baba Nand Singh Ji let his kes open and did tapasya, many photos of Sant Baba Ishar Singh Ji Kaleran & Rara taking ishanna in rivers etc. so again all TRUE brahmgyanis agreed.
Only problem is that we do not who a brahmgyani is? We cannot put a label and call someone a brahmgyani. Only a Guru or another Brahmgyani knows about the truth. Even if we are in front of a pooran mahapurakh we cannot know him, unless Guru ji wants us to know or does kirpa.

Reject Charitropakhyan --> Reject Dohra --> Reject Chaupai --> Reject concept of Panj Bania --> Reject Amrit --> Reject Initiation into Khalsa --> Reject being a Sikh !!!
wah wah !

In the following video, Sant Waryam Singh Ji explains that after Naam gets parpak in swaas swaas, there comes the stage of focusing/concentrating the mind/chit. The best vidhi according to Sant Waryam Singh Ji is focusing on moorat of Guru.
Sant Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib also recommended doing dhyan of Guru Ki Moorat in his diary.
Listen to the whole video.
So now we have Baba Nand Singh Ji/Baba Ishar Singh Ji Kaleran, Sant Ishar Singh Ji rara sahib and Sant Waryam Singh ji recommending dhyana of Gur Ki Moorat. 
 

 

@Soulfinder
Hello veer,
What methods or medications have you already tried for migraine headaches ? And how many pills are you taking in a day ? Are there any triggers such as stress or certain foods ? Whats your caffeine intake in terms of  coffee and tea ?
How long have you had the headaches, and how often are they occurring  ?
Depending on your answers, lets try some methods for headache relief.

Couple of things :
1) when we take more than 16 pills/ month of codeine, ibuprofen, advil, aspirin, tylenol, naproxen, aleve it actually constricts the blood vessels and causes medication overuse headache or rebound headaches.  Neurologists who specialize in headaches do a medication holiday for 4 months for these mentioned meds. But keep taking the meds that you are on. Just make sure not to take lots of codeine...( i worked with a neurologist in past)
2) def. avoid the triggers
3) try this exercise 30 mins am and pm for few weeks.  Sit in a comfortable, spine erect, relaxed Position. Relax your face, forehead, arms, back, abdomen, and legs. Now bring your awareness to your nose,  nostrils and breath. When the breath goes in focus it going through your nose, and into your forehead. Imagine the cooling sensation going through your nose. Same thing with breath out. No strain on eyes and no strain anywhere else. Relaxed. Try this regularly for few weeks...
 
4) plus you can try bhramari pranayam. Its good for migraine headaches. Do a search here or on youtube. 
 
try 3 and 4, give it sometime, and hopefully it helps .

Jaap completed for month of April , 19440, Total =38,880. Hopefully, Guru ji keeps this streak. If this post encourages anyone to increase their simran and nitnem, i will get the punya as well. so sangat ji stay in chardikala and do more simran/nitnem than you previously do and also bless this keet. waheguru  🙏

You have answered yourself right here. Anything that helps us remember our beloved Guru Ji during Naam Simran , deserves respect. Its a Khed of Pyar. Photo is a tool and an aid to assist. Once you have the real Darshan , the need for photo is gone. Then when you close your eyes you will see Guru Nanak ji everywhere, like Sant Waryam Singh ji ratwara sahib did.  
People had same doubts about photo even during Baba ji's time but they returned satisfied when Baba Ji explained to them. Some were fortunate to even have darshan of Guru Nanak Sahib Ji. 
 
 

@Trimandeep Singh I love your enthusiasm. You are energetic and using your time in a productive manner. Keep it up!
With time, and more experience you will realize the uncertainties in life, the grey areas, and the more you experience, the more you will know that you don't know anything. Atleast that was the case for me. But Keep it up!
Now onto some points you made. 
This is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed first. If you don't read complete bani at Akal Takht , how does one expect a chardikala to happen? I hope the conclusion you are referring to is that Ragmala is Baani. 
 
How do you propose to do that ? Let's say you want to become Bhai Pinderpal Singh. How would do you do that ? Let's not talk about producing others, let's talk about transforming ourselves. In order to do correct parchar, one needs to have practical experience of Gurbani.  Mahapurush who did great prachar were all great Naam Abhiyasis and Kamai vale. Naam Abhiyaas comes first, then parchar is a duty given by Akal Purakh Ji. If there is Kamai, only then the parchar will pierce into the hearts.  for example, the kathavachacks from Damdamil Taksal during Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's time were advised to have completed 36 Lakh mala of Moolmantra or 20-25000 Waheguru Japa everyday.

When you listen to santhiya by Damdami Taksal on Gurmatveechar.com you will realize that there are numerous mistakes in SGGS saroops by SGPC.  Hopefully, SGPC and Damdami Taksal can come together, and solve this issue. 
Also, I have heard in one of the kathas that when they do Akhand Path Sahib at Akal Takht sahib they don't read ragmala bani. Is that true ?
In the 1960s, there was a conspiracy to change the mangals in Gurbani as well as remove Bhagat bani. If it had been not for the great mahapurush of that time such as Sant Ishar Singh Ji Nanaksar kaleran vale, rara sahib vale, Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa and many more, things would have been really bad for us. 

I was listening to the tape again, after like 10 years. There is so much hidden wealth and knowledge if you are receptive to it.
Maybe we can expand on some points for our own benefit. 

For example, around 40:00 mins, he was not interested in reciting any kalams, he was not very happy being born in Islam. He said the greatest kalam is following the bachan of your murshad/ guru/ teacher. We should cpnsider ourselves greatly fortunate that we are born into Sikh families and have the greatest GuruMantra of all, Waheguru.... so even now if we don’t recite Nama, there is no greater tragedy than that. 
 
Although, all religions are respectable, Gursikhi is the greatest Dharam which connects us with sole Naam. 🙏🏽
 

Came across this video , thought i would share it here. Answered many of my questions.
Sant waryam singh ji was also the first spiritual teacher of Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohana.
Sant Jis bachans are 100% sat and in Gold, if we follow I am sure we can benefit.
in the following video, sant ji talks about 4 types of baani. 2 key points that I found were : if one wants to reach somewhere in this janam and does not want next janam then they should do 8-10 hours baikhari baani jaap in initial stages, if one is busy with their work and want to wait till next janam then they should atleast do 2.5 hours baikhari baani as a beginner. 
May Guru ji bless us all with His Naam Japa 🙏🏽
 

you can press 400 lbs ?

Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankar!!!
Charna vich padam hai sohna jo duniya nu thare.
Once Baba Bedi Singh Ji , from lineage of Guru Nanak came to Baba Mahaharnam Singh ( Baba Nand Singh's guru) for meditation advice. Baba Ji instruced Bedi Sahib to put dhyan on Padam. After then , Bedi Saheb's avastha rose even higher.
Dhan Guru Nanak !!!
 

Sakhi of Baba Nand Singh Ji , Baba Ishar Singh Ji and Darshan of Padam
 
Charna vich padam hai sohna  jo duniya nu thare||
 
Once upon a time Baba Ji were in the sewa of Vade Baba Ji, Baba Nand Singh Ji. One day a thought arose in Baba Jis mind that avtars have a padam in their feet, but he hasn’t seen a padam in feet of Baba Nand Singh Ji yet. This thought remained in Baba Jis mind for a long time. One night , it was around midnight, and Baba Nand Singh ji were established in their asana.  Baba Ishar Singh ji were standing outside in door in sewa. At that time a great light arose in room. There was no lantern inside. When Baba Ji went inside to see what was going, he saw light rays emanating from the feet of Baba Nand Singh ji . He realized it was the parkash of padam and felt very happy at that time.  The thought of mind was satisfied.
Next day Baba Nand Singh ji were doing bachan with rattan singh. Vade Baba Ji said, “It is written in granths that avtars have padam in their feet, they have long arms, they don’t have knots in fingers.  If these signs of Guru Nanak could be seen then why would Mehta kalu ji slap guru nanak.  Why would people call him kurahia or why would people throw stones.  Why would rukdin grab that feet containing padam and throw it around.  Therefore,  Arms are long in a way that they have wrapped whole world in their arms, and they do not have the knots of jealousy in their minds.  Only people who have shardha, devotion, love, prem are able to see the padam”.
Baba Ishar Singh Ji were standing closeby and listening to Bachans of Baba Nand Singh Ji. Baba Ji realized how  vade baba ji were answering their questions without being asked.  From that day onwards, Baba ji did sewa of vade baba ji with even more faith and devotion.

So these are the incidents that happened at night.  The pret created a lot of raucous and noise to scare everybody.  He generated violent winds and storm, and created many dangerous forms.  Baba Ji were in their nitnem  asan, from midnight onwards.  When pret tried everything and couldn’t move or scare anyone, when all his efforts were futile, then he came back to his original form, and stood in front of Baba Ji and asked who are you who has captured my place. Upon hearing his voice, Baba Ji opened his eyes.  Pret asked again who are you ?
Baba Ji replied, “ I have been sent by the Nirankar, in front of whom you beg every day and night to get you out of this joon. In front of whom, you cry and ask for your salvation. That is why we have come.  But look at yourself, how much trouble you have created, and how much storm & raucous you created. Now do you want to get salvated or still roam in this jooni ?”.
Upon listening to this, pret was melted and was crying loudly. He did dandaut bandhan to Baba ji and lied in front of him. He begged, “ I am very miserable. Please forgive me and bless me. You have blessed me with your presence. Please take me out of this jooni.  Please give me salvation.”
Then Baba Ji came into the ‘house of mercy’, took some amrit from his Gadva, sprinkled the pret with some amrit drops. At an instant, he was blessed and salvated. And he was heard saying Baba Ji tuhadi jai hove, and went to dargah in a biban.
So morning time came. Asa di vaar bhog was done.  Slowly people came and wanted to inquire about what happened at night.  At evening time, there was more sangat than before.  At night Baba Ji did amrit bachan and narrated all the incidents that happened at night.  Baba Ji said that pret has been mukt now and went to dargah. There is no need to be scared now, come and do satsangat here everyday.  At that place in Dehradun , there is a beautiful  Nanaksar Gurdwara now, and sangat come from far to do darshan.
 
Dhan Guru Nanak tuhi Nirankar!!!
 
Dhan Dhan Baba Ishar Singh Ji Maharaj kaleran !!!
 
Source: Personal Incidents by Baba Geja Singh Ji  , pg 482
Translated by R.

@HisServant welcome back again and thanks for updating. I was wondering where did you disappear to. Its been amazing to see your exponential progress from a beginner to this...Its inspiring so please post from time to time. 
@Sat1176@Lucky How are my veerjis doing? I know you guys used to share your avastha/experiences in the beginning a lot, but you have also gone quiet. Please do share from time to time, so we can have an idea about next stages/avasthas.
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Sant Ji touched on many topics in such a little video, very succint.
- Akal Moorat, and Japa of Mool Mantra
- Par triya roop na pekhe netra, avoiding Nightfalls (supne bind na deyi jharna)
- importance of Gurmantra and Moolmantra Simran on top of regular Nitnem
- Baba Khajan Singh Ji di 36,00,000 japa of Moolmantra, and after that it went into automatic mode. 
Waheguru !

^ its a valid emotional response bro...its really messed up....I am glad some Singhs are taking responsibility and dealing with these issues. I totally agree, we def need bir rass.
Training should be mandatory in sikh households.

Much Respect to Bhai Sahib Ji and I believe UK singhs are the toughest people of all the western Sikhs. You can find a Sarbloh gym only in UK.

Although I dont agree with Sadhguru regarding hiding his techniques from public, or charging money for Isha Programs and some other stuff.
But he does have a lot of good stuff to say. That Guy is full of wisdom, and only youtube personality that i find genuine.
He is more on the side of Shiva/Adi Yoga.
One of my close friend is a devotee of Sadhguru , took initiation from him . He lives at his ashram in Coimbatore. He swears by the bliss that he feels when close to dhyanalinga. Maybe his previous kamai or shakti of sadhguru..who knows?
My friend always make me jealous, how come he can experience bliss and I am a sikh and I am no where near it lol.

Much Respect to Bhai Sahib Ji and I believe UK singhs are the toughest people of all the western Sikhs. You can find a Sarbloh gym only in UK.

^ its a valid emotional response bro...its really messed up....I am glad some Singhs are taking responsibility and dealing with these issues. I totally agree, we def need bir rass.
Training should be mandatory in sikh households.