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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Will be doing 125,000 Mool Mantar Jaap
Waheguru Ji
Will be starting the 125,000 Mool Mantar Jaap will post under this topic the progress. It will not be done according to any maryada. The Jaap will be done while sitting, standing or walking.
The purpose is to train the mind to listen to the sound of the voice and to still the mind. This will keep the mind busy so it won't go after every thought. This Jaap is to help steady the mind to jap and eventually to be able to put attention on Waheguru GurMantra.
feel free to join in anytime.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Premi in Will be doing 125,000 Mool Mantar Jaap
Waheguru Ji
Will be starting the 125,000 Mool Mantar Jaap will post under this topic the progress. It will not be done according to any maryada. The Jaap will be done while sitting, standing or walking.
The purpose is to train the mind to listen to the sound of the voice and to still the mind. This will keep the mind busy so it won't go after every thought. This Jaap is to help steady the mind to jap and eventually to be able to put attention on Waheguru GurMantra.
feel free to join in anytime.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in Granth On Waheguru Mantra
Waheguru Ji
Here is a pdf of the granth
Waheguru Mantarath Granth By Pandit Ishar Singh Kanshi Wale
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from gsm52 in 48.Waheguru simran : Anhad Shabad (The Celestial Sound)
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The awareness (surt) of the persons who do regular Simran or mediation develops an inward focus. The cloudiness of the thoughts and emotions is thinner and then they easily hear the celestial sound . This sound is known as naad. Gurbani calls it Anhad Shabad. . Anhad means the sound that is not produced by striking of two objects. This sound exists as such and has divine origin. Linkup with the Celestial Sound is an ancient spiritual jugat (technique) of the saints to reach the highest state of merger with their origin – the creator Lord. This method was referred to by Guru Nanak Dev ji ), the founder of Sikhism during his meeting with sidhas and this conversation account is described in Sidh Gosht. There are references to the Celestial Sound in all the religions however description of the method of Surt-Shabad is scant. I have come across persons who have been doing yoga and meditation and hear the celestial sound. They were searching for enlightenment and next step. The way that Guru Nanak explained is an integrated one with unfolding of the Mool and the Naam. The spiritual path through the Shabad ( celestial Sound) is described in the hymns in Shri Guru Granth Saheb ji. This spiritual path of the Shabad-surt can be appreciated only when the “shabad” is understood well. For this we have to see how Gurmat explains the creation. The world is a creation of Nirankar. Nirankar means without form or formless and in the Guru Granth Sahibji reference is to this aspect of God. The God has the power or ability meaning kala to exist as form and support the form without appearing to have any connection with the form. Continuing with the same way of expression, the Ekankar is God being one appearing as many. The Nirankar through ‘kala dhar’ created the universe. The creation is oneness- Ekankar. HE is both the Creator and the Creation. This is HIS “Akl kala”.HE also has taken “Shabad Roop” to create and sustain creation. Among the aspects of the Shabad one is sound. This is celestial sound. In the material world the sound is created due to striking of two objects so this form of sound is called ‘Ahat Naad’ , whereas the celestial sound heard during meditation is called ‘Anahat Naad’ which is not caused by striking of objects. Gurmat explains that this Shabad is everywhere and in everything. And here below some Gurbani lines from Shree Guru Granth Sahibji are given to clarify the above explanation: ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰਿ ਆਕਾਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਬਣਾਇਆ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਖੇਲ ਕਰੇ ਸਭਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਸੁਣਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਇਦਾ ॥੧॥ - SGGS 1066 The Formless Lord created the universe of form. He created Maya ( the illusion to sustain separate identities ), Attachment ( to the world ) and Hukam ( HIS command ). The Creator Himself stages all the play; Listen and place the true one in the mind (here path is being referred to). - SGGS 1066 ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਆਕਾਰ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਏਕ ॥ ਏਕਹਿ ਏਕ ਬਖਾਨਨੋ ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕ ਅਨੇਕ ॥੧॥ - SGGS 250 Nirankar Himself is form, and as Nirgun (without attributes), Sargun ( with attributes ) is One. Describe the One Lord as One, and Only One; says Nanak, HE is the One, and the many. - SGGS 250 ਜਾਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਜਾਤਾ ਅਕਲ ਕਲਾ ਭਰਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਆ ॥ - SGGS 469 HIS Light is in the Created and Creation is in HIS Light; know that Through HIS almighty power, HE is pervading everywhere. - SGGS 469 ਨਿਰਗੁਨੁ ਆਪਿ ਸਰਗੁਨੁ ਭੀ ਓਹੀ ॥ ਕਲਾ ਧਾਰਿ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਗਲੀ ਮੋਹੀ ॥ - SGGS 287 HE Himself is Nirgun; HE Himself is Sargun. This manifestation is His power (kala dhar), the entire world is fascinated. - SGGS 287 ਉਤਪਤਿ ਪਰਲਉ ਸਬਦੇ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ ਸਬਦੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ -SGGS 117 Creation and destruction happen through the Shabad.
Through the Shabad, creation happens again. --SGGS 117 The Question in Sidh Gost - ਸੁ ਸਬਦ ਕਾ ਕਹਾ ਵਾਸੁ ਕਥੀਅਲੇ ਜਿਤੁ ਤਰੀਐ ਭਵਜਲੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ ॥ Where is the Shabad said to dwell? Which will carry us across the terrifying world-ocean? The Answer by Guru Nanak in Sidh Gost – ਸੁ ਸਬਦ ਕਉ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਵਾਸੁ ਅਲਖੰ ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਸੋਈ ॥ That Shabad dwells unknown , within everything . wherever I look, there I see the Shabad(HIM). - Sidh Ghost SGGS 944 Shabad that pervades the entire creation has also taken the form of words and is Gurbani. This is why Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is known as Shabad Guru. The Shabad Roop Gurbani is the first place where the Sikh focuses his Surt (conscious awareness) . The Gurbani changes the state of mind of the Sikh. The Gurbani guides and gives direction and knowledge. As the Sikh progresses spiritually, so does this level of guidance. The Sikh does Waheguru Simran as well. The knowledge of The Mool (Naam) unfolds. The Naam starts to permeate the psyche of the Sikh. The Sikh hears the Anhad Shabad. The Sikh perceives HIS presence and starts to live in Hazuri. The Sikh has many spiritual experiences and is able to manage the five passions. The Shabad Guru is perceived within as a guide and companion. There is communion with the Shabad Guru. The Anhad Shabad shows its different roops and ever pulls the Surt upward. The Gurmat path of Shabad-Surt is an integrated one. There are references to the celestial sound in scriptures of other religions as well.The Celestial sound is mentioned as primodal sound of creation . This sound is surely a sound of creation. The meditators hear it in various forms. It has sound of the five elements and is thus also known as panch shabad. It also comprises sound of all the 84 lac created beings.
The Shabad is coming from the tenth Gate (Dasam Dwar). Gurmat way is to listen to the Anhad Shabad and keep doing Simran. As this meditation is continued the quality of sound changes.This Shabad is a transformer and ever pulls the Surt inward or rather upward. The Sikh's mind is in raza,The haume is waning through the simran .The Surt ( conscious awareness)of the Sikh is subtle due to regular Simran and is thus able to connect well with the Anhad Shabad. For the Sikh Anhad Shabad is Guru Roop and thus has preet (feeling of love). The integrated path of Gurmat enables the Sikh to feel His presence, to see the oneness and to be one.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਆਏ ॥
ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਹਾਝੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਏ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਹੇ ਸਮਾਏ ॥ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਦਸਵਾ ਦੁਆਰੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥
ਤਿਥੈ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਭੋਜਨੁ ਸਹਜ ਧੁਨਿ ਉਪਜੈ ਜਿਤੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਜਗਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥
ਤਹ ਅਨੇਕ ਵਾਜੇ ਸਦਾ ਅਨਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਚੇ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਏ ॥
ਇਉ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਆਏ ॥੪॥ - SGGS 441 Meeting the True Guru (shabad guru), the wandering mind is held steady; it comes to abide in its own home. It trades in the Naam, does jap of the Naam, and remains absorbed in the Naam. The outgoing, wandering surt, upon meeting the True Guru, finds the Tenth Gate. There, Ambrosial Nectar is food and the celestial music resounds; the shabad that is keeping the world supported. The many strains of the unstruck melody resound there, as one experiences the merger with the true one. Thus says Nanak: by meeting the True Guru, the wandering mind becomes steady, and comes to dwell in the home of its own self. - SGGS 441 Source: https://naamaukhad.blogspot.com/2012/11/48waheguru-simran-anhad-shabad.html?m=1 -
Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in 48.Waheguru simran : Anhad Shabad (The Celestial Sound)
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The awareness (surt) of the persons who do regular Simran or mediation develops an inward focus. The cloudiness of the thoughts and emotions is thinner and then they easily hear the celestial sound . This sound is known as naad. Gurbani calls it Anhad Shabad. . Anhad means the sound that is not produced by striking of two objects. This sound exists as such and has divine origin. Linkup with the Celestial Sound is an ancient spiritual jugat (technique) of the saints to reach the highest state of merger with their origin – the creator Lord. This method was referred to by Guru Nanak Dev ji ), the founder of Sikhism during his meeting with sidhas and this conversation account is described in Sidh Gosht. There are references to the Celestial Sound in all the religions however description of the method of Surt-Shabad is scant. I have come across persons who have been doing yoga and meditation and hear the celestial sound. They were searching for enlightenment and next step. The way that Guru Nanak explained is an integrated one with unfolding of the Mool and the Naam. The spiritual path through the Shabad ( celestial Sound) is described in the hymns in Shri Guru Granth Saheb ji. This spiritual path of the Shabad-surt can be appreciated only when the “shabad” is understood well. For this we have to see how Gurmat explains the creation. The world is a creation of Nirankar. Nirankar means without form or formless and in the Guru Granth Sahibji reference is to this aspect of God. The God has the power or ability meaning kala to exist as form and support the form without appearing to have any connection with the form. Continuing with the same way of expression, the Ekankar is God being one appearing as many. The Nirankar through ‘kala dhar’ created the universe. The creation is oneness- Ekankar. HE is both the Creator and the Creation. This is HIS “Akl kala”.HE also has taken “Shabad Roop” to create and sustain creation. Among the aspects of the Shabad one is sound. This is celestial sound. In the material world the sound is created due to striking of two objects so this form of sound is called ‘Ahat Naad’ , whereas the celestial sound heard during meditation is called ‘Anahat Naad’ which is not caused by striking of objects. Gurmat explains that this Shabad is everywhere and in everything. And here below some Gurbani lines from Shree Guru Granth Sahibji are given to clarify the above explanation: ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰਿ ਆਕਾਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਬਣਾਇਆ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਖੇਲ ਕਰੇ ਸਭਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਸੁਣਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਇਦਾ ॥੧॥ - SGGS 1066 The Formless Lord created the universe of form. He created Maya ( the illusion to sustain separate identities ), Attachment ( to the world ) and Hukam ( HIS command ). The Creator Himself stages all the play; Listen and place the true one in the mind (here path is being referred to). - SGGS 1066 ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਆਕਾਰ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਏਕ ॥ ਏਕਹਿ ਏਕ ਬਖਾਨਨੋ ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕ ਅਨੇਕ ॥੧॥ - SGGS 250 Nirankar Himself is form, and as Nirgun (without attributes), Sargun ( with attributes ) is One. Describe the One Lord as One, and Only One; says Nanak, HE is the One, and the many. - SGGS 250 ਜਾਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਜਾਤਾ ਅਕਲ ਕਲਾ ਭਰਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਆ ॥ - SGGS 469 HIS Light is in the Created and Creation is in HIS Light; know that Through HIS almighty power, HE is pervading everywhere. - SGGS 469 ਨਿਰਗੁਨੁ ਆਪਿ ਸਰਗੁਨੁ ਭੀ ਓਹੀ ॥ ਕਲਾ ਧਾਰਿ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਗਲੀ ਮੋਹੀ ॥ - SGGS 287 HE Himself is Nirgun; HE Himself is Sargun. This manifestation is His power (kala dhar), the entire world is fascinated. - SGGS 287 ਉਤਪਤਿ ਪਰਲਉ ਸਬਦੇ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ ਸਬਦੇ ਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ -SGGS 117 Creation and destruction happen through the Shabad.
Through the Shabad, creation happens again. --SGGS 117 The Question in Sidh Gost - ਸੁ ਸਬਦ ਕਾ ਕਹਾ ਵਾਸੁ ਕਥੀਅਲੇ ਜਿਤੁ ਤਰੀਐ ਭਵਜਲੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ ॥ Where is the Shabad said to dwell? Which will carry us across the terrifying world-ocean? The Answer by Guru Nanak in Sidh Gost – ਸੁ ਸਬਦ ਕਉ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਵਾਸੁ ਅਲਖੰ ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਸੋਈ ॥ That Shabad dwells unknown , within everything . wherever I look, there I see the Shabad(HIM). - Sidh Ghost SGGS 944 Shabad that pervades the entire creation has also taken the form of words and is Gurbani. This is why Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is known as Shabad Guru. The Shabad Roop Gurbani is the first place where the Sikh focuses his Surt (conscious awareness) . The Gurbani changes the state of mind of the Sikh. The Gurbani guides and gives direction and knowledge. As the Sikh progresses spiritually, so does this level of guidance. The Sikh does Waheguru Simran as well. The knowledge of The Mool (Naam) unfolds. The Naam starts to permeate the psyche of the Sikh. The Sikh hears the Anhad Shabad. The Sikh perceives HIS presence and starts to live in Hazuri. The Sikh has many spiritual experiences and is able to manage the five passions. The Shabad Guru is perceived within as a guide and companion. There is communion with the Shabad Guru. The Anhad Shabad shows its different roops and ever pulls the Surt upward. The Gurmat path of Shabad-Surt is an integrated one. There are references to the celestial sound in scriptures of other religions as well.The Celestial sound is mentioned as primodal sound of creation . This sound is surely a sound of creation. The meditators hear it in various forms. It has sound of the five elements and is thus also known as panch shabad. It also comprises sound of all the 84 lac created beings.
The Shabad is coming from the tenth Gate (Dasam Dwar). Gurmat way is to listen to the Anhad Shabad and keep doing Simran. As this meditation is continued the quality of sound changes.This Shabad is a transformer and ever pulls the Surt inward or rather upward. The Sikh's mind is in raza,The haume is waning through the simran .The Surt ( conscious awareness)of the Sikh is subtle due to regular Simran and is thus able to connect well with the Anhad Shabad. For the Sikh Anhad Shabad is Guru Roop and thus has preet (feeling of love). The integrated path of Gurmat enables the Sikh to feel His presence, to see the oneness and to be one.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਆਏ ॥
ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਹਾਝੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਏ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਹੇ ਸਮਾਏ ॥ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਦਸਵਾ ਦੁਆਰੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥
ਤਿਥੈ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਭੋਜਨੁ ਸਹਜ ਧੁਨਿ ਉਪਜੈ ਜਿਤੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਜਗਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ ॥
ਤਹ ਅਨੇਕ ਵਾਜੇ ਸਦਾ ਅਨਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਚੇ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਏ ॥
ਇਉ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਆਏ ॥੪॥ - SGGS 441 Meeting the True Guru (shabad guru), the wandering mind is held steady; it comes to abide in its own home. It trades in the Naam, does jap of the Naam, and remains absorbed in the Naam. The outgoing, wandering surt, upon meeting the True Guru, finds the Tenth Gate. There, Ambrosial Nectar is food and the celestial music resounds; the shabad that is keeping the world supported. The many strains of the unstruck melody resound there, as one experiences the merger with the true one. Thus says Nanak: by meeting the True Guru, the wandering mind becomes steady, and comes to dwell in the home of its own self. - SGGS 441 Source: https://naamaukhad.blogspot.com/2012/11/48waheguru-simran-anhad-shabad.html?m=1 -
Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in Symptoms of Dasam Duaar
Waheguru Ji
If you need inner guidance please contact bhai dharamjit singh ji. Many members of this forum have talked to him and recommand him for inner guidence.
Here is a video on his YouTube channel click on the description and his phone number is there, please contact him he will be able to help you. Let us know how it goes. Waheguru
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from khoj in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?
WaheguruJi
Came across this step by step progressive stages in Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala book
(1) Swaas Graas simran by chanting Gurmantra to stop the thoughts.
(2) Enter the Sunn (going to sleep to rest)
(3) Stay awake by dhyaan when free of thoughts.
(4) The divine words appear in Sunn.
(5) Anhad Bani (the divine music) appears.
(6) The mind enters the Sunn (third Sunn).
(7) Naad (word of God) appears which will help us cross the Bhavsagar (the dangerous ocean).
(8) The mind unites with God in Sehaj Ghar.
From: Forgetting the Way of Love by Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala page 182
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Soulfinder in Sant Ram Singh Ji Nanaksar Singhara
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Antim Darshan of Baba Ji
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from mahanpaapi in Sant Ram Singh Ji Nanaksar Singhara
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Antim Darshan of Baba Ji
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in Why doing Simran out loud is important--Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala
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Bhai Sewa Singh Ji explains how doing simran out loud will bring the scattered attention together making it easier towards the inward journey to Waheguru.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from mahanpaapi in The Golak should not be infront of Guru Granth Sahib Ji
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Wanted the Sangats view of wheather the golak should be moved to the side or somewhere else. Don't want the golak to be so central.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Kaur10 in The Golak should not be infront of Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Waheguru Ji
Wanted the Sangats view of wheather the golak should be moved to the side or somewhere else. Don't want the golak to be so central.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in The Golak should not be infront of Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Waheguru Ji
Wanted the Sangats view of wheather the golak should be moved to the side or somewhere else. Don't want the golak to be so central.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Kaur10 in Big collection of Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala Katha
Wahegury Ji
This YouTube channel has a big collection of katha, videos of Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala on Naam, Anhad Shabad, Bhagti, Gurmanter, Jaap and question and answers.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from harsharan000 in Sehaj Path
Waheguru ji
For method of Simran visit Bhai simranjeet Singh tohana channel. He describes all method you will need. Here is a video from his channel that will help you out. Plus check the playlist on his channel, he has over 200 q and a with people who do simran answering their questions when they have experiences when doing simran, that will help you.
This is his channel.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from sarabatam in Sehaj Path
Waheguru ji
For method of Simran visit Bhai simranjeet Singh tohana channel. He describes all method you will need. Here is a video from his channel that will help you out. Plus check the playlist on his channel, he has over 200 q and a with people who do simran answering their questions when they have experiences when doing simran, that will help you.
This is his channel.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Jageera in Sehaj Path
Waheguru ji
For method of Simran visit Bhai simranjeet Singh tohana channel. He describes all method you will need. Here is a video from his channel that will help you out. Plus check the playlist on his channel, he has over 200 q and a with people who do simran answering their questions when they have experiences when doing simran, that will help you.
This is his channel.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from harsharan000 in INDICATIONS OF DASAM DUAR OPENING
From Bhai Randhir Singh Ji's book 'Anhad Shabd Dasam Duar'
OPEN DISCUSSION OF UNSTRUCK ETHEREAL MUSIC AT TENTH DOOR OF ABODE DIVINE.
CHAPTER 2 ‐ INDICATIONS OF DASAM DUAR OPENING
A. Trickling of Amrit.
B. Hearing of unstruck Ethereal Music, Anhad.
The two indications of Dasam Duar opening are:
First is the trickling of Amrit, extremely pure. Secondly the highly elating sound of Ethereal Music, so ecstatic, is heard. These two events of spiritual bliss are primary indications that are known to occur, seen and heard that naturally follow the high spiritual Sahaj attainment. These are not mere wishful dreams. In the fort of human frame temple and Abode of Self, these are true happenings, experienced in state of full awakeness. Ceaseless Naam‐Devotion leads to: aulitE kmlu bRhmu bIcwir ] AMimRq Dwr ggin ds duAwir ] Turns around the lotus of interior body with contemplation of Lord Supreme. Then what follows is: Trickles Amrit from the highest Dasam‐Duar. Gaurri M.1 p.153 AMimRq Bojnu kry AwhwrI ]1] rhwau ] Working like a fountain, "Trickles down nourishing Amrit that rejuvinates the devotee.” Gaurri M.5 p.181 ggin rswl cuAY myrI BwTI ] sMic mhw rsu qnu BieAw kwTI ]1] Says Kahir Ji “Trickles from my furnace at high Dasam Duar exalting Amrit. Collecting Nectar Supreme, my selfhood burns as fuel in the furnace. 1. Rag Gaurri p.328 Essence of wisdom, Nectarian Divine‐Knowledge, dawns as Sahaj state of Equipoise. This entire Play Divine occurs within the body. It may be possible to deny events of outside occurrence but occurrence within interior of body, closest personal experiences, can never be denied. Strange and unfamiliar it appears to those, without personal experience of Amrit True, Light Divine and the consequent Bliss. This blissfulness is limited to devotees of ceaseless Naam‐Devotion. Their bodies are rejuvenated with nourishment of Amrit, drinking deep of this. Their inner well of body interior is brimming with Amrit. The splendour of Light‐Divine within imparts golden hue to their bodies. The body so blessed has great appeal and attraction with a magnetic pull over the beholders. Thus they appear beautifully enchanting. kwieAw kMcnu sbdy rwqI swcY nwie ipAwrI ]18] kwieAw AMimRiq rhI BrpUry pweIAY sbid vIcwrI ]19] Golden is body imbued with Naam, Naam‐Divine makes it beautifully enchanting. 18. Body is brimming with Amrit within, bestowed through Naam contemplation. 19. Ramkali M.3 p.911 It is possible to drink Amrit within, in interior of the body, but "obtained through NaamContemplation" is the pre‐requisite for occurrence of this Divine Play. Chanting of Guru's Chant,
Naam, brings about alchemic phenomenon of brimfulness of body with Amrit, a perpetual occurrence. The source is the opening of Dasam Duar, responsible for regular trickle of Amrit of most exalting taste and ecstatic. The devout, bearing this unbearable experience of pure joy, bloat not to make a show of shallowness. Their spirit is enjoying nourishment of high spirituality engrossed in ecstasy of Nam. So long as, satiated with Amrit, switch at navel is kept pressed; the enlightened spirit enjoys untold bliss of celestial spheres, nourished with Amrit. The devotee, enjoying this state, tastes most wonderful Amrit and listens to elating Ethereal Music. This is a state of absolute concentration, holding all body organs in control. Rhythm of Anhad Music holds not only body organs under control but it is verily efficacious in holding entire universal balance in wonderful Natural‐Play‐Divine. This is the force of Naam‐ Amrit, Word‐Divine! Its play is evident at Dasam Duar, as Naam‐ Force, sustaining all life in perfect control and balance, in accordance with Gurbani: 'The Word‐Divine that holds universal balance." This Naam‐ Force has the capability of perfect control over volatile mind in the interior of body, replica of universal model. It is essential to activate this Force to bring it into Play with Touch‐stone of Naam, Guru's Word. It is realizing this state of Amrit‐Nourishment, automatic natural‐rhythmic recitation and perfect balance of model universe within the body, that Jingle of unstruck Ethereal Music, Anhad, multiorgan music is heard. This is very Real! Manifestation of Anhad starts Celestial Music and the entire region from highest Dasam Duar to navel becomes one. This is the miraculous working of Naam‐Devotion and consequent enlightenment within, transforming mortal frame into Amrit‐ Enlightenment of body with Golden Hue. Mortals, abiding in three states of worldliness can never imagine the most ecstatic play of Anhad Shabad‐Dasam Duar. This is incomprehensible, invisible and Limitless, Divine‐spiritual‐secret. All philosophical, scientific, chants and all the Vedicknowledge cannot go beyond the physical world. With limited conceptual aspect, why should one delve in frivolous argumentation? If one is a sincere and true seeker, it is open for spiritual experimentation. However, it is far too easy to be a non‐believer than a man of faith that calls for dedicated labour of Divine‐Love. The last line of the earlier quote (Chapter 1): "Thus speaks Nanak, Realizing Satguru controlled is volatile mind that comes to abide in Abode of Self ‐ Dasam Duar." It is authentication of the preceding lines through reaffirmation that controlled mind abides in Abode of Self at Dasam‐Duar. Mind undergoes experiences as stated below: iehu mnUAw sdw suiK vsY shjy kry vwpwrw ] AMqir gur igAwnu hir rqnu hY mukiq krwvxhwrw ] This mind always dwelling in peace, delves naturally in the business of Naam‐Devotion, gathering Naam wealth. Bestowed by Guru's Grace is Knowledge Divine and Jewel of Naam within, efficacious for redeeming. (2.) Vadhans Ki Var Slok M.3 p.593 gurmuiK rwg suAwd An iqAwgy ] gurmuiK iehu mnu BgqI jwgy ] Anhd suix mwinAw sbdu vIcwrI ] Awqmu cIin@ Bey inrMkwrI ]7] iehu mnu inrmlu dir Gir soeI ] gurmuiK Bgiq Bwau Duin hoeI ]
Aihinis hir jsu gur prswid ] Git Git so pRBu Awid jugwid ]8] Guru‐oriented forsake worldly attachment, pleasures and duality. Guru‐oriented mind keeps awake in Divine‐devotion. Listening to unstruck Celestial Music, Anhad, the devotee with ardent faith contemplates Word bestowed by Guru, Naam, and seeks self within. Realizing self, he attains oneness with Lord, Formless. 7. Immaculate becomes the mind at Abode of Self Dasam Duar, envisioning Lord everywhere. Gurmukh beings are ever engrossed in Loving Devotion. (8.) Aasa M.1 p.415 iehu mnu inhclu ihrdY vsIAly gurmuiK mUlu pCwix rhY ] nwiB pvnu Gir Awsix bYsY gurmuiK Kojq qqu lhY ] su sbdu inrMqir inj Gir AwCY iqRBvx joiq su sbid lhY ] KwvY dUK BUK swcy kI swcy hI iqRpqwis rhY ] Anhd bwxI gurmuiK jwxI ibrlo ko ArQwvY ] nwnku AwKY scu suBwKY sic rpY rMgu kbhU n jwvY ]65] Guru‐oriented realize Lord, as their Source and their steady minds abide in their interior. Lifebreath abides in bliss on the seat of navel and seeking Gurmukh finds the Essence. Word‐Divine also resides in interior, Abode of Self. Realized is this Light‐Divine, Effulgent Naam, the universal Sustainer. Yearning hunger for Lord True ends afflictions and satiated is mind in seeking Eternal One. Graced rare ones comprehend Naam‐force of Ethereal Anhad, Sustainer of all life. Says Nanak, those reciting Naam all the time are imbued with Naam and this hue of Love‐Divine is Eternal. Ramkali M.1 Sidh Gost p.945 Practitioner of Naam Simran breath by breath, WAHEGURU, within the interior ceaselessly as normal practice, keeps at it all the time. Blessed is this Naam‐devotee with peace eternal in inner being. Mind is steady in Bliss. Lighted within is the lamp of Naam. This is the enlightenment of Naam‐light, Jewel of knowledge within, the source of Liberation from worldliness. "Bestowed by Guru is the commodity of Knowledge, Naam". There is no other redeeming spiritual knowledge. Knowledge of other faiths pertains to functional names of Divine only. Liberating and enlightening knowledge comes through Gurmat. Guru‐oriented beings listen only to the singing of True Gurbani and shun the half‐baked Bani of imperfection. They delve only in True Naam Amrit, Most Sublime; nothing else is of their interest. They remain wide‐awake in Guru‐devotion of Naam‐Simran, God‐ remembrance. They blissfully enjoy celestial Music, Anhad Shabad. The Gurmukhs, young spiritual swans take NaamNourishment and contemplate Word‐Divine. They draw their sustenance from spiritual Jewels and pearls of Naam and Gurbani. Realizing Essence of Spirit within, engrossed they remain in Anhad Shabad. Their minds become immaculate through perpetual engrossment in Divine. At this stage of spiritual awakening of Fourth state of Knowledge, Gurmukhs remain engrossed in hearkening Anhad Shabad and in Meditation. The volatile mind, under control of Gur‐Shabad, attains absolute steadiness. Through practice of Naam Simran, mind now comprehends The Source, Divine‐spirit. This is inner vision of Naam‐enlightenment. Naam‐lamp is lighted with the bellow‐like simran, breath by breath and friction of this touchstone within generates spiritual spark. This spiritual spark is the sweetest, life‐giving initial nourishment of Amrit. This has the effect of permeating through every vein of the body, engulfing with enlightenment. Unfathomable sweet engrossment leads to:
iehu mnu inhclu ihrdY vsIAly… ‐ "Abides this mind steadily in the interior… No more mind wavers, abiding steadily within. Naam practice and sprinkling of Amrit, gushing sound of continuous automatic Simran, straightens up the inverted lotus at the navel and nurses it to flourish with nourishing panacea of Amrit. Nectarian taste of Amrit is without parallel. It generates life‐giving light of electrification that holds the breath at navel under the influence of ecstatic tasting of Amrit. Thus pressed with breath holding, navel experiences bliss of enlightenment. Ecstasy of this experience brings about absolute concentration of mind. Abiding in the self abode at lotus of navel, consciousness enjoys heavenly bliss that lifts the consciousness to new heights. With breath thus pressed at navel, consciousness takes flight to unlimited heights. Higher the flight of consciousness, greater the bliss of Ecstatic Amrit. This is the discovery of natural consequence of Divine yearning and bliss, contemplating Oneness of individual soul with Essence of Supreme soul. The above is a brief explanation of the line in foregoing Gurbani Shabad. "Life breath abides in bliss on the seat of navel and seeking Gurmukh finds essence." What more could be said? Those, who have experienced more of the referred Play‐Divine, may wish to elaborate further. This is the limit of my personal experience. kihby kau soBw nhI dyKw hI prvwnu ]121] "Words fail to express this marvel. Only the experience can truly satisfy. " Slok Bhagat Kabir Ji p.1370 It is not that vivid explanation of Surat‐Shabad Gurmat explanation is withheld purposely. The fact is that it defies description and it is indeed a matter of personal experience. Beyond words is Fathomless! Shabad, Gurmantar, abiding at the seat at navel, the seeker Gurmukh comprehends Essence and lights up spiritual enlightenment within his interior void perpetually. The bigger Universal Play in nature is also envisioned and comprehended through Gur Shabad. The alchemy of Naam‐Simran becomes nectarine, ceaseless and automatic phenomenon. The Gurmukh practitioner is not inconvenienced in any way, unlike the practitioners of Hathh Yoga. In the natural Gurmat Yog, of God Realization, body torturing is not involved. Yearning for more, unlimited flourish of enchanting enlightening further enhances spiritual hunger and bliss of enlightenment limitlessly. Hungering to behold Eternal Lord, Creator, ends all bodily afflictions as also evils of mind. No more is there any thirst for worldly desires. The yearning for more and more contemplation of Naam is most over powering to end all other wants. And this insatiability of Naam devotees is thus limitless. There is no end to hunger for Naam and yearning to behold Lord of Naam, yet there is a strange sense of fulfilment and satisfaction. No more is a scope left for worldliness and its desires nor bothersome pain and sorrow. Sustenance of Gurmat Naam, vision of the Lord and complete satiation therein is the high Gurmat spirituality that enables hearing elating Music of Anhad Shabad tinkling. Only rare Gurmukh devotees come to realize Anhad Bani. Though rarely experienced, yet Truth of this is undeniable. Guru Nanak bears witness true, that once attained, this high spirituality and its hue become eternal. idnu idnu cVY svwieAw nwnk hoq n Gwit ]16] "O Nanak! ever mounting is the elation of the accepted devotees and there is never a slide down in their state of spirituality. "
Thitee Gaurri M.5 p.30 Truly accomplished is the life with such spirituality, available only to the initiated Gursikhs, faithful to Gurmat. Their love for Gurmat way of life makes for engrossment in Naam and its alchemy to flourish in essence of Anhad. Their life‐breath imbued thus in high spirituality, they get rid of all doubt and sorrow. All the concentration is focussed on Guru's word, chant of Naam and consequently in Invisible and Incomprehensible Lord. It is only Naam‐devotion and its miraculous influence that enable contemplation of Lord Supreme and reaching highest spirituality. Heard now is Anhad sound of Musical organs along with singing of Gurbani as the Heavenly Ethereal Music. It is Grace of the Benevolent Guru that opens the heavy gates of Dasam Duar and the graced ones alone merge in Spirit‐Divine. Says Gurbani: jIvno mY jIvnu pwieAw gurmuiK Bwey rwm ] hir nwmo hir nwmu dyvY myrY pRwin vswey rwm ] hir hir nwmu myrY pRwin vswey sBu sMsw dUKu gvwieAw ] Aidstu Agocru gur bcin iDAwieAw pivqR prm pdu pwieAw ] Anhd Duin vwjih inq vwjy gweI siqgur bwxI ] nwnk dwiq krI pRiB dwqY joqI joiq smwxI ]1] Found is the life, real life through Guru's teaching, enchanting Gurbani. Guru bestows Naam‐Divine with each breath. Breathing Naam with every breath, all my doubt and sorrow is banished. Contemplating Invisible and Incomprehensible Lord through Gurbani, attained is the highest pure supreme spirituality. Singing Satguru's Bani, I have come to enjoy ceaselessly elating Ethereal Unstruck Music, Anhad Shabad. O Nanak! Bestowed is Grace Divine by Benevolent Lord and merged is my soul with Spirit‐Divine. 1. Rag Aasa Chhant M.4 p.442 Hearing of Anhad Shabad and merging with Spirit‐Divine is not easily attained through mere words or high sermons. It requires utmost Naam‐Devotion, bestowed only by Gracious Guru, Sovereign, Controller of Naam commodity. It is through True Satguru, met through, great fortune, whose tutelage may bestow Naam‐devotion, with His Grace. Naam‐devotion is ceaseless engrossment in Naam. The virtues of Naam‐Jewel are to be sung with loving Faith through Gurbani endlessly. Forsaken are personal needs of eating and sleeping until realization of the high objective. Such has to be the meditation of engrossed and unwavering mind! Practioners of this description are found in Guru's House, Gursikhs delving in Naam‐Jewel and earning great Merit‐Divine. They offer their entire beings, body and mind, to Satguru in devotion and remain under His refuge. Hopeful of Guru's Grace, they are engrossed in Naam and Gurbani devotion. Graced are they! Their life objective is attained, realizing Fathomless, Incomprehensible and Invisible Lord. Says Gurbani quote: myrw Twkuro Twkuru nIkw Agm AQwhw rwm ] hir pUjI hir pUjI cwhI myry siqgur swhw rwm ] hir pUjI cwhI nwmu ibswhI gux gwvY gux BwvY ] nId BUK sB prhir iqAwgI suMny suMin smwvY ] vxjwry iek BwqI Awvih lwhw hir nwmu lY jwhy ] nwnk mnu qnu Arip gur AwgY ijsu pRwpiq so pwey ]3] Inaccessible and Fathomless Lord of mine is Most Enchanting. O' Satguru, my Sovereign, I seek Commodity of Naam Divine through Your Grace! Seeking Naam and engaging in sole occupation of Singing Virtues‐Divine with loving devotion of Lord. Forsaking worldly slumber and hunger, devotee
merges with Lord, Unmanifested. Seekers of Naam‐Divine alone come together and earn great Merit‐Divine. O' Nanak! Making offering of entire being, mind and body to Satguru, rare one, graced by Satguru, alone receives Naam commodity. 3. Aasa chhant M.4 Ghar 1 p.442 Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Lord of Naam and Gurbani, is verily a brimming ocean with the spiritual Jewels, that enable realization of Dasam Duar, hearing of Anhad Shabad, Celestial Music and envisioned is Reality of Lord Supreme. This is an accomplishment of those, who put unwavering Faith in Gurbani and lead Gurmat way of life. Naam‐Jewel comes to abide in their hearts and opened is the vista of single‐minded Ceaseless Naam‐devotion. Ocean like interior of body is thus churned with stirrer of Naam‐recitation, to find the Essence. It then becomes evident that Guru and Lord Supreme are One as Spirit‐Divine, envisioned through enlightenment of Self. rqnw rqn pdwrQ bhu swgru BirAw rwm ] bwxI gurbwxI lwgy iqn@ hiQ ciVAw rwm ] gurbwxI lwgy iqn@ hiQ ciVAw inrmolku rqnu Apwrw ] hir hir nwmu Aqolku pwieAw qyrI Bgiq Bry BMfwrw ] smuMdu ivroil srIru hm dyiKAw iek vsqu AnUp idKweI ] gur goivMdu guoivMdu gurU hY nwnk Bydu n BweI ]4]1]8] Brimful is the ocean‐like interior with Spiritual Jewels. Found is this Treasure by devotees of Gurbani. Delving in Gurbani is found most precious Naam‐Jewel. Finding Naam‐Divine leads to abundance of Naam‐Devotion. Churning body‐ocean, envisioned is the novelty, Guru is Lord Supreme and Lord Supreme is Guru! O' Nanak! No difference can be discerned with Oneness in Spirit‐Divine. 4. 1. 8. Rag Aasa Chhant M.4 p.442 Blessed with vision of Invisible, Incomprehensible Lord Supreme, these Gurmukhs also experience Dasam Duar and Secret Divine play of Anhad Shabad. In elation of their ecstasy, they pour out: Ando Andu Gxw mY so pRBu fITw rwm ] cwiKAVw cwiKAVw mY hir rsu mITw rwm ] hir rsu mITw mn mih vUTw siqguru qUTw shju BieAw ] igRhu vis AwieAw mMglu gwieAw pMc dust Eie Bwig gieAw ] sIql AwGwxy AMimRq bwxy swjn sMq bsITw ] khu nwnk hir isau mnu mwinAw so pRBu nYxI fITw ]1] All is bliss with vision of the Lord! Tasted is the sweet Naam‐Amrit. Noam has come to abide in my mind with Grace of Guru. I now enjoy Equipoise, Spiritual Sahaj. Flourished is my interior being, bursting forth in joyful singing. Banished are the five evil foes. Cool and satiated is my being with Amrit Gurbani. Such is benevolence of Saintly Guru, Friend Emissary Divine! Says Nanak, beholding the Lord with my own eyes, my mind is enslaved to Him. 1. Aasa M.5 Chhant Ghar 1 p.452 After initiation and taking Amrit through Five Chosen Friendly Saints and Divine‐emissaries, when some predestined mortals experience first vision of Divine Spirit, they get elated beyond measure. In this blissful state, brimming with joy, they pour out their feelings, expressed in devotional ecstasy of Gurbani Kirtan. It is piercing like Celestial Music, in accordance with Will‐Divine. Revelation of this nature through personages of Gurus was also automatic under compulsion of joyful direct experience, most high through Divine Communication. Timeless Being, Lord Almighty,
willed this revelation so as to establish witness for the benefit of non‐believer mortals. Thus under authority of Divine is established the reality of invisible spiritual states visioned, as invisible is made visible. In the face of Truth Divine, it would not be possible to deny for Gursikhs, rather the reality will coax them to progress further in spirit of elation. In this vein, Lord of Gursikhs, fifth Nanak has revealed this authenticated Gurbani about Anhad Shabad: nv inDy nau inDy myry Gr mih AweI rwm ] sBu ikCu mY sBu ikCu pwieAw nwmu iDAweI rwm ] nwmu iDAweI sdw sKweI shj suBweI goivMdw ] gxq imtweI cUkI DweI kdy n ivAwpY mn icMdw ] goivMd gwjy Anhd vwjy Acrj soB bxweI ] khu nwnk ipru myrY sMgy qw mY nv iniD pweI ]3] All the nine treasures are available at my door. I have attained all through Naam‐contemplation. Meditating Naam, Lord has become my constant natural Companion. Gone is all worry, no more straying about, my stable mind is ever carefree and peaceful. Automatic is the thundering of Lord from within and Unstruck Ethereal Music, Anhad Shabad of ecstatic beauty. Says Nanak, Lord abiding with me, I have attained all the nine treasures. 3. Rag Aasa Chhant M.5 Ghar 1 p.452‐53 Devotees of ordained Gurmat‐Naam, Gurmukhs have personally verified Gurbani‐Truth. Naamdevotion enables all the above quoted experiences and accomplishment of stated spirituality. With enlightenment of Naam, the interior being is all lighted up. The treasure of all treasures, WAHEGURU, is visioned closer than the closest, in the very being. This comes as undeniable experience. Here and now, a direct experience! All worries are then gone. Mind abandons all straying about and dwells steadily in peace. Lord thunders forth from within and being is rejuvenated with perpetual youth. Mind is blissful, imbued with Divine‐Love and beauty. Meeting Lord, Husband, face to face and in full contact, one is blessed with real treasures and cherished life objective. All talk of other supernatural powers appears to be a lowly acquisition.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Sikhawareness upgrades, love your feedback
Waheguru Ji
Maybe we can add a Gurmukhi only section to the forum.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Still nascent in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?
Waheguru Ji
Gurmukh describes all the experiences he had leading up to meeting God Waheguru
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Lucky in Abhyaas and Simran
Waheguru Ji
In this video he explains why he is doing all this and how he met Waheguru Ji and how to help anyone who wants to go on this path to meet Waheguru Ji.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from Still nascent in Abhyaas and Simran
Waheguru Ji
In this video he explains why he is doing all this and how he met Waheguru Ji and how to help anyone who wants to go on this path to meet Waheguru Ji.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from harsharan000 in Newly discovered ancient Buddha statue destroyed on Muslim cleric’s order in Pakistan
Waheguru Ji
Please see this website as it documents that this has been going on for a long time.
http://www.aurangzeb.info/search?updated-max=2008-06-04T14:37:00%2B05:30&max-results=200&m=1
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35. Destruction of sixty-three Temples at Chittor
On Monday, the 22nd February /1st Safar, the Emperor went to see Chittor fort; by his order sixty-three (63) Temples of the place were destroyed.
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The temple architecture at Chittor had attained a high level of excellence and it suffered an irreparable loss on the occasion of Aurangzeb’s visit to the Fort. A number of these temples were fine specimens of temple architecture, built according to the cannons of Vastu and Shilpa-Shastra, and having exquisite sculptured figures, foliage decorations, decorative motifs, some even dating back to the 8th century, such as the Kalika Mata or Sun Temple. Among the Temples which suffered damage were also those built by Maharana Kumbha, such as Kumbha Shyam Temple.
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from harsharan000 in Newly discovered ancient Buddha statue destroyed on Muslim cleric’s order in Pakistan
In yet another shocking incident, a recently discovered Buddha statue was smashed into pieces by local construction workers and a Muslim cleric on Saturday in Pakistan. The relic was discovered while digging the foundation for a house in the Pashtun-dominated Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’s Mardan district in Pakistan.
A video of the act, which has since gone viral on social media, showed the construction workers, along with a Muslim cleric, smashing the Buddha statue using a sledgehammer. They are seen walking over and destroying the life-sized Buddha status while expressing their acrimony against Buddhism, which they consider anti-Islam.
According to reports, the statue was destroyed on the order of a local Muslim cleric, who ruled that it is against Islam. ‘Your nikah would cease to exist and you will no more be a believer if the statue isn’t disposed of’, the cleric told the people at the site, who then followed his orders to destroy the priceless relic, which was accidentally discovered in a good condition.
Local media quoted Abdul Samad, director of the archaeology and museums, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, as saying that he authorities have located the area, where the incident occurred and those involved in vandalism would be held accountable. “We have located the area and we will have those involved arrested soon,” he said.
Four people have been arrested in connection with the case. Initially the police were slow to react to the incident. But when the video emerged on social media and a large number of people criticised the action, the police swung into action and made the arrests.
Takht Bhai was once the homeland for Buddhism
The area from where the relic was discovered is known as the Takht Bhai area, in Mardan district, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Takht Bhai is a part of the Gandhara civilisation, where Buddhism thrived until the 8th or 9th centuries when Islam first began to gain sway in the region. Since 1836, when it was first excavated, archaeologists have dug out hundreds of relics made of clay, stucco, and terracotta in the area. Due to its historical and religious significance, it is a popular destination for Buddhist tourists from Sri Lanka, Japan, Korea etc. The Buddhist monastery is included in the World Heritage List.
Similar incident in Pakistan
Last month, in a similar incident, the ancient Buddhist rock carvings in the Chilas area of Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir (PoK)’s Gilgit-Baltistan has been desecrated by Islamists, who painted Pakistani flag and slogans on the rock-cut art.
According to the reports, the incident came to light when the locals of Gilgit-Baltistan posted images on social media platforms. The Islamists had vandalised the rock carvings by writing Islamic slogans on the rock-art that belonged to 800 AD.
https://www.opindia.com/2020/07/buddha-statue-pakistan-discovered-destroyed-smashed-cleric-order/
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Sajjan_Thug got a reaction from harsharan000 in Confessions of an Ex-Christian: Esther Dhanraj
Another interview with a missionary who converted tens of thousands of people. He is ex Christian now.