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This story I have heard in Diwan in Amritsar .

There was a rich indian business man in foreign.One day he invited a scientist of that land to dinner.Indian ,keeping in mind the foreign tradition, prepared good number of non veg dishes.When scientist came and saw the dishes he YELLED at indian ,''What u have prepared? Do you think my stomach is [highlight=red:f061e221ae]GRAVEYARD[/highlight:f061e221ae]? All ur dishes are not dishes but heap of dead bodies.''

Sangat ji ,Forgive my mistakes if any.
Learn from this story ,when a person dies we consider it bad,but what about hundred bodies which are cut for our parties and marriage purposes.Adopt veg habits

in the introduction to the Dasam Granth there is a sakhi where Maharaj blesses a woman by touching her with the tip of his arrow. She asks him why he did not touch her with his hand, and he says "I have never, and will never ever touch a woman besides my own wife".

very beautiful. A similiar story can be found with Imam Ali when he was fighting Aisha in war and he sent a man to pick her arm and bring her to him. she said "how dare you touch me?" (as it is haram for a muslim man to touch a woman) whereas the man removed his scarf and she saw that it was her brother. Imam Ali sent her brother to go get her instead of letting a non-family member touch her.

Sri Laxman Ji was Sri Ram Chander Ji's younger brother. After Sita Mai was kidnapped by Ravan, she threw her jewelery on the path he took her from, thus leaving behind a trail for Sri Ram Chander Ji. The jewelery included her ear rings, necklace, bangles etc. and aslo the small rings she wore on the fingers in her feet. Sri Ram Chander Ji recognized her jewelery, but Laxman was able to recognize only the rings she wore in her feet, as he never gazed on her above her feet. It has been a well known fact throughout history that Sri Laxman Ji never ever gazed upon any woman above her feet.

May Guru Sahib bless all of us with such a high moral character!

Bhen ji i am not a expert on the subject as i have not reached that level. But its best to find a mahapursh or a puran gurmukh who has done simran with these stages as doing this type of simran jaap without gudiance is to hard understand about whats right or wrong. 
 
Try to get books by Bhai Ragbir Singh Ji Bir as they have talked and discussed a lot about simran stages from their personal life.

@ragnarok superb reply. Thanks
Actually don't have right words to say how thankful I am to read this.

@Soulfinder so the conclusion is to ignore chakras activation, do Naam Simran with love and technique to reach higher state.
Thanks

@ragnarok superb reply. Thanks
Actually don't have right words to say how thankful I am to read this.

@Soulfinder so the conclusion is to ignore chakras activation, do Naam Simran with love and technique to reach higher state.
Thanks

Bhen ji here are a few threads i found on gurmatbibek.com about the kundalini subject discussed on the links. 
 
Daas has not done kundalini simran but here is a good mention on it and if anyone has any experience with it please share
http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,5790
 
http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,1688
 
http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,7478
 
http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,19451

Those are quotes from Lucky.
You can also read this:
 
 

just explored this website, it is indeed very interesting. Thanks

Thanks veer, I was looking for answer to my question as to which chakra to activate first, Trikuti or Mooldhaara. Is it best to start from bottom and keep moving upwards?
I have the  diary book of Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji in which he states Va sound from navel , He sound from heart, Gu sound from throat and R sound from trikuti for naam Simran. Does it mean  we should start from navel , not the lowest chakra, the root chakra?
Or would it be ok to activate the Navel/Sacral chakra first by concentrating Naam Simran on that part for months or years until the point of focus moves up?
@Lucky, @Sat1176, @Soulfinder, @moorakh. Please gave your opinions.

I wouldn't get bogged down with chakras. They will open on their own as your mind becomes more still. 

Thanks veer, I was looking for answer to my question as to which chakra to activate first, Trikuti or Mooldhaara. Is it best to start from bottom and keep moving upwards?
I have the  diary book of Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji in which he states Va sound from navel , He sound from heart, Gu sound from throat and R sound from trikuti for naam Simran. Does it mean  we should start from navel , not the lowest chakra, the root chakra?
Or would it be ok to activate the Navel/Sacral chakra first by concentrating Naam Simran on that part for months or years until the point of focus moves up?
@Lucky, @Sat1176, @Soulfinder, @moorakh. Please gave your opinions.

Interesting read
http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritual-research/kundalini-and-chakras/kundalini-awakening/
http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritual-research/kundalini-and-chakras/kundalini-chakras-awakening/
 

I firmly believe that there is no other technique more effective than navel activation for establishing rom rom. I never tried to put together the various mahapursh's guidance about Navel, to conclude it's significance.

Before someone critises techniques and simply passing them if as yog mat, they should along side their comments say to the sangat I used this technique as per gurbani and achieved xyz result. But you will never hear this in any video. This holier than thou attitude, is becoming a serious disease with our faith and we are quick to downplay techniques that mahapursh have used In the past. This knowledge will become lost real soon, if the majority of the emphasis is placed only on outwardly seva and reading gurbani. Don't get me wrong reading gurbani is absolutely important as without it you have no knowledge, but one must also walk on the path and follow the instructions within it. How else will we do khoj of ourselves? 
Am sure I read the pangti somewhere,
SatGur ki seva Har Naam dayaiyeh.
No doubt Sant/Bhai Ranjit Singh is doing a lot of seva and parchar in the panth, probably like no other in recent times, which means he has even a bigger responsibility to put people on the right path. I am yet to see what that is from him in terms of bhagti advice. 

A non-swimmer can read as many books on how to swim.  Months and years of reading..reading..and reading,  without ever attempting to get in the water, will never help him to swim a length physically. In the same manner, if you don't ever undertake the real practice, then all the readings will be of no use in the end.
 

Someone out there is trying to cause friction with this video between him and other groups. First of all why was AKJ shown doing naam simran at the beginning? Do AKJ teach applying pressure on the navel during naam abhiyaas? 
Anyway leaving that point aside, I don't agree with what he is saying. I have heard a number of mahapursh teach this technique and the first time was years ago, in the audio simran instruction recording of Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale). He clearly stated in that, when one applies pressure on the navel you will eventually begin to feel the pulse behind it. When simran is synchronized with that pulse and dhyaan is placed there it would lead to manifestation of Rom Rom simran. He said Bakhari was done at the mouth, Madhma in Khant, Pasanti in the heart and Para at the navel. Maskeen ji also wrote about this in the book Prabhu Simran.
I also recall reading in the instructions given by Sant Baba Waryam Singh that one should not progress to the trikuti until you see the planets and starts at the navel and one hears the anhad shabad.
Secondly in Sidh Gosht (Ang 945), Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji says the following to the Siddhas:
ih man maigal kahaa basee-alay kahaa basai ih pavnaa.
"Where does this mind-elephant live? Where does the breath reside?
kahaa basai so sabad a-oDhoo taa ka-o chookai man kaa bhavnaa.
Where should the Shabad reside, so that the wanderings of the mind may cease?"
nadar karay taa satgur maylay taa nij ghar vaasaa ih man paa-ay.
When the Lord blesses one with His Glance of Grace, he leads him to the True Guru. Then, this mind dwells in its own home within.
aapai aap khaa-ay taa nirmal hovai Dhaavat varaj rahaa-ay.
When the individual consumes his egotism, he becomes immaculate, and his wandering mind is restrained.
ki-o mool pachhaanai aatam jaanai ki-o sas ghar soor samaavai.
"How can the root, the source of all be realized? How can the soul know itself? How can the sun enter into the house of the moon?"
gurmukh ha-umai vichahu khovai ta-o naanak sahj samaavai. ||64||
The Gurmukh eliminates egotism from within; then, O Nanak, the sun naturally enters into the home of the moon. ||64||
ih man nihchal hirdai vasee-alay gurmukh mool pachhaan rahai.
When the mind becomes steady and stable, it abides in the heart, and then the Gurmukh realizes the root, the source of all.
naabh pavan ghar aasan baisai gurmukh khojat tat lahai.
The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality.
so sabad nirantar nij ghar aachhai taribhavan jot so sabad lahai.
This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds.
 
On Ang 223 there is references to Baramh Agan by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji. This Baramh Agan is generated when one does intense jaap in a speedy manor. But if one doesn't know how to control this inner heat it can cause problems, slow best to stick to a slow steady pace unless under guidance of an experienced abhyaasi.
 
nirbha-o jogee niranjan Dhi-aavai.
The Yogis meditate on the Fearless, Immaculate Lord.
an-din jaagai sach liv laavai.
Night and day, they remain awake and aware, embracing love for the True Lord.
so jogee mayrai man bhaavai. ||2||
Those Yogis are pleasing to my mind. ||2||
kaal jaal barahm agnee jaaray.
The trap of death is burnt by the Fire of God.

He doesn't say anything wrong directly in the video but the technique he mentions of excessive & forced navel breathing is NOT simran and not what I would recommend to anyone either.   He is correct that this can lead to a "Forced" kundalini awakening, ..but all Yoga's advise against this in general and warn students about not attempting forced kundalini awakenings.    However, the video can be misinterpreted, because he has used the term yojis, very loosely. It gives the impression that all yogi methods are forced and not gurmat. Whereas, this is clearly not the case.
He says that people doing "waheguru waheguru" and no gurbani veechar or paaths is a false technique-> True to an extent, ..but you have to do simran to start going within,..and when you are more inwards, you will interpret gurbani at much deeper levels.  A true abyassee can usually tell if another Sikh has been practicing abyaas in gurmat, if the other's gurbani veechar and interpretation is deep enough and more profound. .Especially with bhagat bani like Kabeer ji and Naamdev..
 
 

When we meditate below the eye level and try to activate the six chakras or energy centers, it helps us to gain some remarkable experiences. But they don’t help in raising our awareness at all! We gain a lot of energy and benefits by activating chakras, but they are just meant for this world only. We can’t raise our awareness by those means. Then why put our attention below the eyes? 

If I am not wrong, these answers will come automatically & with Sehaj when one advances or goes deeper within. Right ?

At this stage, I can only bow down to those in whose minds the above questions arise genuinely. They are Dhan.

The way i see it sometimes is that being married is not a bad thing when it comes to doing bhagati simran etc.
 
As they were gristi mahapursh in our religion such as Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindrawale,Sant Kartar Singh Ji Bhindrawale,Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindrawale, Sant Puran Singh Ji Kericho wale,Baba Mihan Singh Ji Sihar Wale,Bibi Balwant Kaur Ji etc.
 
It just depends i suppose on how your way of lifestyle is as i am not married so i can't say anything about this subject.

just do simran with love and that will open it, surrender is all that works for dasam duar... it can open through seva many ways, give up the ego and love god to merge and it opens. just meditate on guru mantra until that is the only thing that exists, let it continually cut the thoughts until you merge into the gurumantra. banis as well let it cut thoughts until that is all that exists, your identity merges into guru manta. "waheguru gur mantra hai jaap homai koi"
from what ive learned effort can only take you to trikuti, 3rd eye, to go beyond that you need total surrender, technique doesnt matter. 

way to advanced stuff, went over the top of my head, i will just stick to basics lol