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What a disgrace Crystal. Where did Guru Ji instructed to be bad mouth for girls. Have some shame, you were talking to a female member (Sukrit Kaur) and using such a bad language. Very sad. If you want to debate, first learn to be Human. Isn't Nimrata the first requirement to be on the path of Sikhism??
One should be level minded to know when, where and how to do Jhatka..........Fools are bound to give Jhatka/sudden-stock to their own necks.......so, beware, otherwise Karmas will give a proper Jhatka.
I am NOT sure why Admins have not edited/deleted this crystal's degrading posts.

In Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there are numerous things mentioned: ranging from micro (cell stuff) to macro (universe level). All of these references are made to derive a point or to help in our understanding of some Spiritual concept. e.g type of bhoots, bodies, chakra, planets, astrology, avatars, medical knowledge etc .etc.
But that doesn't mean that you've to know about each and everything. You're missing the whole point here: In Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, all these things are there to derive a point about the Permanent Truth (The God). In other words, God, Soul, Mind are the most referenced concepts in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so first try to find the following answers and then move on to some other:
What is Permanent? Difference between Soul and Mind? Working of Mind: Karma, Senses etc.? How to work towards God - Meditation etc. The above mentioned concepts are the mostly talked about concepts in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. So, why not first grasp them firmly and not just the face value? It's understandable that out of curiosity, one wants to know about everything mentioned in Guru Ji; but if misses the main point around which everything is defined then it is NOT worthwhile.
But even if you want to know about certain things, then the following are various options in descending order (Best at top):
BEST: Search within; use Meditation to get answers; or offer genuine prayer to get answers. NEXT BEST: Offer prayer to Guru Ji to lead you to proper sources: books etc. Search in books, lectures, kathas, internet (not so best to find the reliable knowledge) to find the answers. i.e work-hard. If you cannot find the information or have some question, then ask someone. Still it is best to ask the Guru. The worst option is: Not doing any hard work to acquire or understand the subject and just asking online. Knowledge cannot be understood by merely reading. Secondly, if deep topics are offered, one cannot appreciate/understand the depth because one is not aware of the depth of topic at hand. e.g One cannot be expected to estimate the depth of well in the darkness; the depth can only be measured by actually descending into the well. 
It's hard to explain, bottom line is: Work-hard in the right direction and start by praying to Guru Ji. None can attain anything without hard work.

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

If you're genuinely looking for some Spiritual information for peace or willing to investigate the nature of Self, then I would suggest you the following. Otherwise, if your sole intention is to debate or prove your point or just fun then please carry on as you wish.
 
The good place to start learning about the real Sikhism is from "Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji". It is a Sikh scripture that is the 11th Guru of Sikhs, IT was given the authority/Guruship by the 10th Sikh Guru. Sikhs have 10 Gurus and it was only during the 10th Guru's time that a formal religion/group (Khalsa) was established by giving them a distinct identity because of that time's need. Before the 10th Guru, they were normally called Sikhs but with no distinct indentiy. The 10th Guru chose not to include his writtings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
What I want to convey is: If you want to study something, then starting from a more gross form is not a good idea. So, again I suggest reading the source instead of just getting confused with personalized thinking of everyone around you. The reason is I say this because even in Sikhs there are different people who are not good spiritually, they are just like everyone else.
Recently Sikhs (like any other religion) have gone towards "Radical Interpretation" of their history and therefore going down the self-created-drain of darkness where there is always quarrel between this-vs-that. They just don't ever try to analyze the writings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and just solely goes with interpretations that follows their point of view instead of the other way around.
You could see the following different groups within Sikhs these days.
Group-1: This is the most popular and could easily be traced on Internet. Religious youth are its main force. This group treats the history (after 1699 - Khalsa creation) as the sole indicator. This group claims that their Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji but they do not bother to seriously analyze the writing of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the light in which it is written. They are so deeply concerned with the history after the creation of Khalsa (post 1699 or 1708) that they fail to see the history which took place between 1469 and 1699. They don't realize that they have neglected the history of 10 Gurus (around 230 years) and have just opted for the history of 10th Guru's last 9-10 years. They are just like other religious people who believe that their religion is the best. Group-2: This group mostly includes Scholars who have studied Guru Granth Sahib Ji deepy but from materialistic point of view. They are far better than the first group as they give importance to both the history periods. But their interpretation is more like Black-and-White world. They fail to see that the world where we live is domain of Laws and the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib Ji did not ask them to revolt against the Laws or reject the Laws. The teachings are merely pointing what is temporary vs what is permanent and how to get to the permanent while living in this world. But still they are far better than the first group. Group-3: Then comes a group who is a mixture of Group-1 and Group-2; sometimes they took one side and then sometimes took side of another group; not because they want to but they themselves are confused. Without the real Spiritual knowledge, they say things as per Group-2 but then eventually they will switch to Group-1. Group-4: This is the group who mostly have read the English transalations of Guru Granth Sahib Ji but not in the proper light. They try to reject all the rituals, traditions without understanding the real nature of this world. They are kind of more aggresive form of Group-2. They try to understand the higher concepts by dragging the higher concepts to their level of thinking instead of the other way around. They are always fighting with Group-1. Group-5: They are the rarest and rarely available on Internet. They do understand the real nature of this Universe and do understand that: "A person cannot live without performing the karmas. i.e one has to pick something out of the choices provided by the immediate environment.". They do see the core teachings of core Guru Granth Sahib Ji in proper light and therefore understand the purpose of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to show us the proper path while living in this universe of Laws: Essence/Juice of all Scriptures (including Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji): The following are the core ideas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji: 
Purity of Mind (Karma): This is the first requirement on spiritual path. Purity of mind is achieved by staying away from filthy and investing in good, honest actions. Why there is a need to pure the mind, and how the impure mind is hindrance to real happiness, and how to purify the mind etc. all these topics are including in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Concentration of Mind (Upsana): When mind is purified, then the desire for concentration arises in mind.  One-pointedness of Mind is achieved through worship with full concentration so that mind does not create ripples (thoughts) to disturb us. The concentration is achieved by devotion and worship. What is Concentration, why it is important, uses/mis-uses of concentration, importance of concentration, and how to achieve one - all these topics could be found in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Knowledge (Gyan): When the search of Self is done with purity and concentration of mind, one realises that the same God that once appeared as separate is one's own; in fact the entire universe appears to be one. There are various topics which could give one the real knowledge but in order to understand the real knowledge, one needs to be expert in the first 2 points and with the Kirpa of Guru (again explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji).  Practically, the above mentioned juice could be obtained by (explained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
Bodily Cleanliness (Isnan), Charity: Do charity to needy i.e Charity of money, goods, knowledge, time etc. Meditation  

I don't know him.

All I know is that - whatever qualities you focus on most, that's what you become.
If you focus on spiritual qualities, you will become more spiritual. If you focus on ignorant qualities, you will become ignorant.

ਹਰਿ ਜਨੁ ਐਸਾ ਚਾਹੀਐ ਜੈਸਾ ਹਰਿ ਹੀ ਹੋਇ
Hari jan aisa chahieya, jaisa Hari hi hoe

The follower of Hari focuses on the qualities of Hari and in this way he becomes like Hari.
 

First of all, I'm NOT a follower of Radhaswami.
It's very irresponsible paapiman. Did you listen to the video clip you've posted?
"Sawan Grewal" name is nowhere mentioned in the clip; so how you got this name? It's really very sad and shameful on your part; one should NOT post any anything online without verifying the facts.
"Sawan Singh Grewal (1858–1948)" was one of the first person who settled in Beas. He was opposed to the formation of separate Mat named as Radhasoami; The Radhasoami name originated from Agra circle.
I'm NOT saying that someone somewhere under somebrand cannot do as claimed in the video but that does NOT mean that you can pull everyone under the same umbrella. There are some cracks who are doing that.
At this present times, there are many many cases where the person belonged to previous Rara-Sahib samparda, Nanaksar samparda but they are indulged in Ego-ist behaviours; some are even continuing the samparda for the money things. Does it mean that you can drag the real Saints under the same tag? It always happen that the real sampardas/groups preach something but later on those teachings are packed in box and sold. So, then who is the culprit? Think about it.
There is NO problem in pointing out the real issues, but these days youth with this internet are so careless that they do not care about the real truth. They just post whatever based upon their very limited point of view and without really looking for the truth.
Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib wale used to say that the Nindea is defined as: Spreading the news for which you did not know if it is true or not (i.e which you have not heard/seen with your own ears/eyes).

First of all, I'm NOT a follower of Radhaswami.
It's very irresponsible paapiman. Did you listen to the video clip you've posted?
"Sawan Grewal" name is nowhere mentioned in the clip; so how you got this name? It's really very sad and shameful on your part; one should NOT post any anything online without verifying the facts.
"Sawan Singh Grewal (1858–1948)" was one of the first person who settled in Beas. He was opposed to the formation of separate Mat named as Radhasoami; The Radhasoami name originated from Agra circle.
I'm NOT saying that someone somewhere under somebrand cannot do as claimed in the video but that does NOT mean that you can pull everyone under the same umbrella. There are some cracks who are doing that.
At this present times, there are many many cases where the person belonged to previous Rara-Sahib samparda, Nanaksar samparda but they are indulged in Ego-ist behaviours; some are even continuing the samparda for the money things. Does it mean that you can drag the real Saints under the same tag? It always happen that the real sampardas/groups preach something but later on those teachings are packed in box and sold. So, then who is the culprit? Think about it.
There is NO problem in pointing out the real issues, but these days youth with this internet are so careless that they do not care about the real truth. They just post whatever based upon their very limited point of view and without really looking for the truth.
Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib wale used to say that the Nindea is defined as: Spreading the news for which you did not know if it is true or not (i.e which you have not heard/seen with your own ears/eyes).

Gyani ji tells the account of when naamdev was asked to jap allah instead of ram ram.
Remember that before Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji   a mantra was something given to the sevak by his ustad or guru-->that's why it is called GURu-Mantra
So, this was Namdev's response,.....that he is going to jap what was INSTRUCTED by his guru, to him, at the time ---->Gyani ji clarifies that this doesn't mean allah or any other name is not on par with your own mantar,,Because for the sevak who wants to get brahmgyan,..he must jap what is instructed by his teacher Guru(gurmantra).
 
Don't get confused that gur-mantra always means 'waheguru', .....No,... only for Sikhs and as per Bhai Gurdas ji's vaaran referencing Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji(Guru), is our gurmantra 'waheguru'.
 

and please include me in that list. It's point of view from broader sense of what we're doing here in this world.
Yes, it seems like from the posts (that you've posted) and from introspection of mine side that both of us were/are doing worthless. We're just doing whatever we've been scripted to do, may be sometimes doing some small good but majorly we're wasting our lives. In other words, we have been doing what the circumstances/environment/thinking are forcing us to do. So, explain to me: Where is the "I" who is dong good?
My genuine request to you is come out of the false illusion that you're doing something special (and as always me included).
Think about it:
Aren't you paid for your Army services? So, how you're helping? Identify the real enjoyer here. Aren't you paid for your services to Gurudwara Committee with a BIG payout? And before you reply with "I don't have any penny from Gurudwara funds", let me clear that I'm talking of Ego as reward. I'm also paid VERY heavily when I post some thing OR help someone. In the case of "posts" I DO look for "likes" to feel good, so I'm feeding my Ego. And in case of helping someone medically, again I DO look for appreciation. Again feeding my Ego. So, in order words, I'm NOT doing good to help someone. I'm just doing that because "I" like it, "I" feel happy/satisfied; and again when I feel satisfied, only when my EGO is boosted (however hidden it may be). The same goes for "THE YOU", my friend. e.g If a parrot closes his eyes on seeing the cat thinking that as he cannot see cat, so cat cannot see him. Is it worth? NO, because as cat can see the parrot and therefore can eat him. It does not matter if parrot's eyes are closed or not. Same way, it does NOT matter if we close our eyes towards our internal hidden issues or false illusions; at-last we're bound to loose if we don't do anything to get rid of the real core issues.

and please include me in that list. It's point of view from broader sense of what we're doing here in this world.
Yes, it seems like from the posts (that you've posted) and from introspection of mine side that both of us were/are doing worthless. We're just doing whatever we've been scripted to do, may be sometimes doing some small good but majorly we're wasting our lives. In other words, we have been doing what the circumstances/environment/thinking are forcing us to do. So, explain to me: Where is the "I" who is dong good?
My genuine request to you is come out of the false illusion that you're doing something special (and as always me included).
Think about it:
Aren't you paid for your Army services? So, how you're helping? Identify the real enjoyer here. Aren't you paid for your services to Gurudwara Committee with a BIG payout? And before you reply with "I don't have any penny from Gurudwara funds", let me clear that I'm talking of Ego as reward. I'm also paid VERY heavily when I post some thing OR help someone. In the case of "posts" I DO look for "likes" to feel good, so I'm feeding my Ego. And in case of helping someone medically, again I DO look for appreciation. Again feeding my Ego. So, in order words, I'm NOT doing good to help someone. I'm just doing that because "I" like it, "I" feel happy/satisfied; and again when I feel satisfied, only when my EGO is boosted (however hidden it may be). The same goes for "THE YOU", my friend. e.g If a parrot closes his eyes on seeing the cat thinking that as he cannot see cat, so cat cannot see him. Is it worth? NO, because as cat can see the parrot and therefore can eat him. It does not matter if parrot's eyes are closed or not. Same way, it does NOT matter if we close our eyes towards our internal hidden issues or false illusions; at-last we're bound to loose if we don't do anything to get rid of the real core issues.

Isn't your EGO also working through your messages? Think about it?
I'm NOT taking sides with you or chatanga but you read your messages. And please stop these arguments on this topic and kindly use your debating powers somewhere else (open a new topic or thread).
My personal thinking is that you're trapped in your own world and don't want to come out of it. Just like a frog living in a well and refused to the presence of external world. (NO pun intended). The world is NOT about Man-vs-Woman and I know that you'll respond that you believe in equality and everyone else is not; but in reality you're just on the other-side (of the same coin). You claim to see beyond physical aspects (Man vs Woman) yet your messages give entirely different indication (i.e you're just the other side).
Please channel your power to some good work where someone can be benefitted. I don't think being in Army, Emergency team volunteering, Debating, Practicing Sikh, part of Gurdwara committee, some limited experiences, OBE etc. has anything to do with helping people and Spiritually uplifting yourself along with other people. It sounds like these things are just proving an secret ego booster for you where you're not even aware of it. Welcome to this world of illusions!!
Do something which would you help you AND the other person Spiritually and accept that there is NO guarantee that you're more pious/spiritual than the other person who you're debating with. You may or may not be more spiritual than the other, but debating while thinking that you're right and only you do see the whole truth is NOT the right way on this Spiritual path.

Isn't your EGO also working through your messages? Think about it?
I'm NOT taking sides with you or chatanga but you read your messages. And please stop these arguments on this topic and kindly use your debating powers somewhere else (open a new topic or thread).
My personal thinking is that you're trapped in your own world and don't want to come out of it. Just like a frog living in a well and refused to the presence of external world. (NO pun intended). The world is NOT about Man-vs-Woman and I know that you'll respond that you believe in equality and everyone else is not; but in reality you're just on the other-side (of the same coin). You claim to see beyond physical aspects (Man vs Woman) yet your messages give entirely different indication (i.e you're just the other side).
Please channel your power to some good work where someone can be benefitted. I don't think being in Army, Emergency team volunteering, Debating, Practicing Sikh, part of Gurdwara committee, some limited experiences, OBE etc. has anything to do with helping people and Spiritually uplifting yourself along with other people. It sounds like these things are just proving an secret ego booster for you where you're not even aware of it. Welcome to this world of illusions!!
Do something which would you help you AND the other person Spiritually and accept that there is NO guarantee that you're more pious/spiritual than the other person who you're debating with. You may or may not be more spiritual than the other, but debating while thinking that you're right and only you do see the whole truth is NOT the right way on this Spiritual path.

So these are the incidents that happened at night.  The pret created a lot of raucous and noise to scare everybody.  He generated violent winds and storm, and created many dangerous forms.  Baba Ji were in their nitnem  asan, from midnight onwards.  When pret tried everything and couldn’t move or scare anyone, when all his efforts were futile, then he came back to his original form, and stood in front of Baba Ji and asked who are you who has captured my place. Upon hearing his voice, Baba Ji opened his eyes.  Pret asked again who are you ?
Baba Ji replied, “ I have been sent by the Nirankar, in front of whom you beg every day and night to get you out of this joon. In front of whom, you cry and ask for your salvation. That is why we have come.  But look at yourself, how much trouble you have created, and how much storm & raucous you created. Now do you want to get salvated or still roam in this jooni ?”.
Upon listening to this, pret was melted and was crying loudly. He did dandaut bandhan to Baba ji and lied in front of him. He begged, “ I am very miserable. Please forgive me and bless me. You have blessed me with your presence. Please take me out of this jooni.  Please give me salvation.”
Then Baba Ji came into the ‘house of mercy’, took some amrit from his Gadva, sprinkled the pret with some amrit drops. At an instant, he was blessed and salvated. And he was heard saying Baba Ji tuhadi jai hove, and went to dargah in a biban.
So morning time came. Asa di vaar bhog was done.  Slowly people came and wanted to inquire about what happened at night.  At evening time, there was more sangat than before.  At night Baba Ji did amrit bachan and narrated all the incidents that happened at night.  Baba Ji said that pret has been mukt now and went to dargah. There is no need to be scared now, come and do satsangat here everyday.  At that place in Dehradun , there is a beautiful  Nanaksar Gurdwara now, and sangat come from far to do darshan.
 
Dhan Guru Nanak tuhi Nirankar!!!
 
Dhan Dhan Baba Ishar Singh Ji Maharaj kaleran !!!
 
Source: Personal Incidents by Baba Geja Singh Ji  , pg 482
Translated by R.

If Lord Krishna comes to meet you in a dream and hugs you very tightly, it means your are very special and your spiritual journey ahead will be very interesting.

I had a similar experience of getting scared and resisting His hug.

I was kayaking with my friends, down this really dangerous river, with rapid, chaotic waters. It was surrounded by beautiful brown cliffs, where the sunlight hit the tops of the cliffs and lit them up with beautiful warm colours. Below that was this dark, cold, blue river, in the shade, with greenery around it and rocks everywhere.

I am not sure why we went on this river but that's all I remember.

So while kayaking down I saw an opening in part of the cliff to my left that we wanted to check out, and there was a flat rock in front of it to the side. We used the rock to stop ourselves and entered the opening.

Now it was just me by myself.

The water was rushing into the opening very hard, but I wanted to explore anyway. The water spiraled around deeper into the cave, and as I went in deeper I noticed that it formed a whirlpool.

I was looking down at the water so far, when I looked up, at the center of that whirlpool there was a figure seated atop Sheshnaag, His form was dark, beautiful and awe-inspiring! And the five-headed Sheshnaag was terrifying! At this point I realized this was no longer a dream. My mind was beginning to wake up as I began to get sucked into the dark form, the deep void.

The pull into the darkness was so strong that I got frightened that I might die, that I might disappear. I was scared and tried to free myself and woke up fully.

I later fell asleep thinking that was not physical death but death of the ego, which the ego was resisting. During that pull into the darkness the sense of I, haumai, was threatened and it resisted.

Let's see what He does next. He keeps chipping away at my haumai, little by little. Even though I haven't meditated in formal sittings in a while, He still comes to meet me in my dreams.

I have experienced many dreams.it's weird.l am sharing one as it's a very interesting topic ..last 2 years back i saw a very strange dream..i thought it was happening in reality.but when i woke up i realised it was only a dream.
I experienced:
There was someone standing there.i couldnt see his face.a sound was coming like he is lord krishna. I usually feel that i am a very bad person and god takes me as nothing.he does not love me or consider me special.the dream was about this..my classmate was standing near that person..my classmate does a lot of meditation or naam jaap..the person standing there was praising her a lot like whatever u want,tell me..you will definitely get what u want..you r a true person and a lot.your life will succeed.i was standing beside her with an angry face as he didnt even look towards me..then i moved on from there.as i was moving through a very strange place.suddenly a huge bright light came ,very bright hugged me so tight.i felt like really someone hold me.i was shedding tears of happiness and i was saying in mind why dont u accept me as your child.suddenly,i scared and tried to let myself free..as i tried to let the light go away, it moved away very rapidly..i saw the light moving away.i could see no one in light..then immediately i woke up..i could not differentiate whether it was a dream or reality.it seems like it really happened to me.my body was shivering ..tell me what was this.what does it mean?

I tend to have a lot of dreams with mahapurakhs
 
It usually tends to be Bhagat Ji (Bhagat Jaswant Singh) - they'll usually talk to me and act really laid back and fun. The one I had last night was them just spending a day with me.
A really long time ago I had one with Baba Nihaal Singh - I dreamt it was a really cold day and they kept giving me layers of clothes because they knew I was cold. (I've never met Baba Nihaal Singh in my life). They didn't speak at all during the dream.
The other mahapurakh that's been in one was Baba Isher Singh. I've obviously never met them (I'm 17), I've never really watched/listened to any of their recordings nor did I know much about them. They came to the dream and just showed me love. They didn't speak a single word but the emotion was the communication, the most powerful part of the dream was when they hugged me. It almost seemed like I was feeling physical pleasure during that moment even though I was in a dream.
 
What I've noticed is that these dreams are more frequent when my Simran is going well - maybe there's a connection?

The above mentioned Shabad is neither referring to eclipse nor is referring to Heart chakra. Here is the full shabad:

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
ਅੰਤਰਿ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਬਦਿ  ਮਨੁ  ਮਾਨਿਆ  ਅਵਰੁ  ਨ  ਰਾਂਗਨਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ  ਜੀਆ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਮਾਲੇ  ਤਿਸ  ਹੀ  ਕੀ  ਸਰਕਾਰਾ  ॥੧॥
ਮੇਰਾ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਰਾਂਗਿ  ਘਣੌ  ਅਤਿ  ਰੂੜੌ  ॥
ਦੀਨ  ਦਇਆਲੁ  ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ  ਮਨਮੋਹਨੁ  ਅਤਿ  ਰਸ  ਲਾਲ  ਸਗੂੜੌ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
ਊਪਰਿ  ਕੂਪੁ  ਗਗਨ  ਪਨਿਹਾਰੀ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਜਿਸ  ਕੀ  ਰਚਨਾ  ਸੋ  ਬਿਧਿ  ਜਾਣੈ  ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਗਿਆਨੁ  ਵੀਚਾਰਾ  ॥੨॥
ਪਸਰੀ  ਕਿਰਣਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਕਮਲ  ਬਿਗਾਸੇ  ਸਸਿ  ਘਰਿ  ਸੂਰੁ  ਸਮਾਇਆ  ॥
ਕਾਲੁ  ਬਿਧੁੰਸਿ  ਮਨਸਾ  ਮਨਿ  ਮਾਰੀ  ਗੁਰ  ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਪਾਇਆ  ॥੩॥
ਅਤਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਰੰਗਿ  ਚਲੂਲੈ  ਰਾਤੀ  ਦੂਜਾ  ਰੰਗੁ  ਨ  ਕੋਈ  ॥
ਨਾਨਕ  ਰਸਨਿ  ਰਸਾਏ  ਰਾਤੇ  ਰਵਿ  ਰਹਿਆ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਸੋਈ  ॥੪॥੧੫॥
The shabad is referring to the process when "The Shabad" permanently resides in the Mind, then one tastes the real Amrit stored in the Crown Chakra. In other words, it is suggesting the last point in the journey to be outside of Time and Space. Crown Chakra is also known as the place of 1000 Suns which is so strong yet so calming that it (the light/ray) overtakes everything. The shabad has nowhere mentioned the Heart Chakra or Eclipse.
Moreover, in reality Astronomy and Astrology are exactly the same Science (Macro/Micro/Effects) but recenty (around 16-17th century) when people started accepting more materialistic views, this Science was broken into 2 different streams: Astrology and Astronomy. It's the same way, these days there are Specialist Doctors for each organ and they just worry about their particular organ; they do NOT understand that each and every cell in this body is interrelated and interlinked and work as ONE BIG SYSTEM.
Moreover, here are some clues to the play of 3 gunas and 5 elements in Space and Time:
Seven is a clue for everything that happens in Time. 7 comes from 3+4 (3 gunas + 4 elements). i.e 7 Traditional planets; 7 Major Chakras; 7 Rishis, and so on. Twelve is a clue for all things that co-exist in space. 12 comes from 3*4 (play of 3 gunas with 4 basic elements in Space). These are the twelve basic points with which everything in space is connected. It is possible to find the right way by connecting the spatial relationship of everything that occurs upon the earth with twelve permanent points in space — the twelve signs of the Zodiac in the cosmos. And there is always certain relation between the numbers Seven and Twelve, and that this relation has something to do with time and space. Time is revealed according to the number Twelve. The above mentioned points are the core of Astrology. It's very easy to say but very hard to understand the play of 12*7=84.
But at last, let me warm you that there are VERY RARE astrologers who fully understand Astrology and Astronomy in real sense but at the same time it does NOT mean that Sikhism is against Astrology. But do NOT try to find paid astrologers and do NOT try to look in Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the intention to find the reference to astrology and then proving that it is accepted in Sikhism. As I always say, this world is never Black-and-White.
Rudolf Steiner has said this perfectly: "Humanity, is intimately connected to cosmic beings, who in turn are related to planets and stars. There is meaning in the cosmos." He rejected the Simplistic notion of the planets determining our lives and behaviour, he shows that as individuals, and with the guidance of spiritual beings, we choose an appropriate time of birth to match the destiny we are to live.
In other words, when we reduce the systems (create Simplistic views separate from another system), then we are bound to fail and this is what is happening with Astrology these days (so-called Zodiac readings).
 

The shabad above is very deeply mystical.
One will ONLY understand it completely in its entirety..after they have experienced Waheguru themselves...ie, when the dasam duar opens and Waheguru opens the door to nijh mahal. -->>waheguru darshan...waheguru parkash...
You can look around and search for the arths, but they will mostly all be diverting from the truth in one way or the other...........Why do I say that ??..
-Because quite simply, when one experiences the whole Sach and the whole Truth.-->then there is no right or wrong way to describe it..
The shabad is purely esoteric and is not about astrology.
I would be surprised to see some arths that would cover more than 65% of the abyaas practice it refers to..because those who have experienced the 100%, would be unable to put it in words...............And like I said,..there can't be no wrong arth or a right one either!
I can give you a few pointers from yoga.....left eye/right eye.,,.left side/right side...ida/pingala... are represented by Moon and Sun. But also in Gurbani,,..depending on the shabad's context, the Sun represents heat and agan which is lower part of body, whereas the cooler moon is head upwards....our poison(bikh) from our doing becomes manifest lower down and the cooling amrit from the top completely eradicates it and changes it into rays of light emerging instead....Some of this is what Guru Nanak iji is pointing at in the shabad.,,,,but he is also describing his jyot being completely immersed in waheguru. at the same time.
One can only get their surti to rise all the way up to dasam duar, when the central nadi-the 'Sukhmana', is fully open.  ...This only opens when the surti from left and right side becomes central... That is just the basic,  however,..it is hard enough!....then follow much more efforts where one has to keep the jeevan jach in line with walking away from duality.................But that's not all,...because many self conflicts inside yourself between your own ego and atma..etc..also have to be addressed and dealt with....and this becomes an ongong battle with the 5 chor.
Sun into moon is also about going into that line in the middle of duality. We have to remember that one can not attain waheguru darshan by technique alone..The Sikh has to Transform into Gurmukh....The simran automatically starts to do this in many unbelievable ways.
Duality has to be conquered towards becoming advait(non-dual).............But you can never become completely advait until you get immersed in the Satch-in totality.
While in maya world, a Sikh has to walk on that very very thin line in the middle of duality--->which is why dasam patshah gave and showed us the double edged khanda and it's very sharp cutting edge-->>which defines the razor thin line that the Sikh treads on.
 
Das's post above is very good. Astrology is itself a study of the astronomy on our own selves......Gurbani  tells you in many places that the whole universe and it's master(GOBIND)..is within your own body. This then means that what we do inside us, will also affect the world and universe outside,...and vice versa.
Das made some interesting points about our body correlations with the whole cosmos...and some of them I hadn't given much though previously, but there is also significance of 5 digits on each side of our body on hands and feet....the 5 senses. the karam indries..the gyan indries...
The 4 fingers with 3 phalanges each(4x3=12 again)...and there is also the same kind of miri-piri aspects with having a pair of each which represent duality of physical/spiritual...destined/karmic....etc..
There must be so much more,...and I've only just picked the above up here and there and with my own experiences-->conclusions.......but like Das says,, it's very difficult to find an astrologer who is close to the truth in reality because they wouldn't be charging the money!
But I also repeat the same ....about not getting tied up trying to find astrological conclusions in gurbani..
To be honest, you have to find them yourself by going inside and having an internal dialogue with yourself. This way you also find that it helps your simran, because one big drawback in meditation is we sit down and the internal dialogue starts instead of jap. Therefore, try and do as much internal dialogue throughout the day and arrive at the conclusions as well,..as it will help you become more humble as well...But the main point is that in this way, you will have more free dhyan freed up to help put focus on gurmantar.
 
 

The above mentioned Shabad is neither referring to eclipse nor is referring to Heart chakra. Here is the full shabad:

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
ਅੰਤਰਿ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਬਦਿ  ਮਨੁ  ਮਾਨਿਆ  ਅਵਰੁ  ਨ  ਰਾਂਗਨਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ  ਜੀਆ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਮਾਲੇ  ਤਿਸ  ਹੀ  ਕੀ  ਸਰਕਾਰਾ  ॥੧॥
ਮੇਰਾ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਰਾਂਗਿ  ਘਣੌ  ਅਤਿ  ਰੂੜੌ  ॥
ਦੀਨ  ਦਇਆਲੁ  ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ  ਮਨਮੋਹਨੁ  ਅਤਿ  ਰਸ  ਲਾਲ  ਸਗੂੜੌ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
ਊਪਰਿ  ਕੂਪੁ  ਗਗਨ  ਪਨਿਹਾਰੀ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਜਿਸ  ਕੀ  ਰਚਨਾ  ਸੋ  ਬਿਧਿ  ਜਾਣੈ  ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਗਿਆਨੁ  ਵੀਚਾਰਾ  ॥੨॥
ਪਸਰੀ  ਕਿਰਣਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਕਮਲ  ਬਿਗਾਸੇ  ਸਸਿ  ਘਰਿ  ਸੂਰੁ  ਸਮਾਇਆ  ॥
ਕਾਲੁ  ਬਿਧੁੰਸਿ  ਮਨਸਾ  ਮਨਿ  ਮਾਰੀ  ਗੁਰ  ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਪਾਇਆ  ॥੩॥
ਅਤਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਰੰਗਿ  ਚਲੂਲੈ  ਰਾਤੀ  ਦੂਜਾ  ਰੰਗੁ  ਨ  ਕੋਈ  ॥
ਨਾਨਕ  ਰਸਨਿ  ਰਸਾਏ  ਰਾਤੇ  ਰਵਿ  ਰਹਿਆ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਸੋਈ  ॥੪॥੧੫॥
The shabad is referring to the process when "The Shabad" permanently resides in the Mind, then one tastes the real Amrit stored in the Crown Chakra. In other words, it is suggesting the last point in the journey to be outside of Time and Space. Crown Chakra is also known as the place of 1000 Suns which is so strong yet so calming that it (the light/ray) overtakes everything. The shabad has nowhere mentioned the Heart Chakra or Eclipse.
Moreover, in reality Astronomy and Astrology are exactly the same Science (Macro/Micro/Effects) but recenty (around 16-17th century) when people started accepting more materialistic views, this Science was broken into 2 different streams: Astrology and Astronomy. It's the same way, these days there are Specialist Doctors for each organ and they just worry about their particular organ; they do NOT understand that each and every cell in this body is interrelated and interlinked and work as ONE BIG SYSTEM.
Moreover, here are some clues to the play of 3 gunas and 5 elements in Space and Time:
Seven is a clue for everything that happens in Time. 7 comes from 3+4 (3 gunas + 4 elements). i.e 7 Traditional planets; 7 Major Chakras; 7 Rishis, and so on. Twelve is a clue for all things that co-exist in space. 12 comes from 3*4 (play of 3 gunas with 4 basic elements in Space). These are the twelve basic points with which everything in space is connected. It is possible to find the right way by connecting the spatial relationship of everything that occurs upon the earth with twelve permanent points in space — the twelve signs of the Zodiac in the cosmos. And there is always certain relation between the numbers Seven and Twelve, and that this relation has something to do with time and space. Time is revealed according to the number Twelve. The above mentioned points are the core of Astrology. It's very easy to say but very hard to understand the play of 12*7=84.
But at last, let me warm you that there are VERY RARE astrologers who fully understand Astrology and Astronomy in real sense but at the same time it does NOT mean that Sikhism is against Astrology. But do NOT try to find paid astrologers and do NOT try to look in Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the intention to find the reference to astrology and then proving that it is accepted in Sikhism. As I always say, this world is never Black-and-White.
Rudolf Steiner has said this perfectly: "Humanity, is intimately connected to cosmic beings, who in turn are related to planets and stars. There is meaning in the cosmos." He rejected the Simplistic notion of the planets determining our lives and behaviour, he shows that as individuals, and with the guidance of spiritual beings, we choose an appropriate time of birth to match the destiny we are to live.
In other words, when we reduce the systems (create Simplistic views separate from another system), then we are bound to fail and this is what is happening with Astrology these days (so-called Zodiac readings).
 

The above mentioned Shabad is neither referring to eclipse nor is referring to Heart chakra. Here is the full shabad:

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
ਅੰਤਰਿ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਬਦਿ  ਮਨੁ  ਮਾਨਿਆ  ਅਵਰੁ  ਨ  ਰਾਂਗਨਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ  ਜੀਆ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਮਾਲੇ  ਤਿਸ  ਹੀ  ਕੀ  ਸਰਕਾਰਾ  ॥੧॥
ਮੇਰਾ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਰਾਂਗਿ  ਘਣੌ  ਅਤਿ  ਰੂੜੌ  ॥
ਦੀਨ  ਦਇਆਲੁ  ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ  ਮਨਮੋਹਨੁ  ਅਤਿ  ਰਸ  ਲਾਲ  ਸਗੂੜੌ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
ਊਪਰਿ  ਕੂਪੁ  ਗਗਨ  ਪਨਿਹਾਰੀ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰਾ  ॥
ਜਿਸ  ਕੀ  ਰਚਨਾ  ਸੋ  ਬਿਧਿ  ਜਾਣੈ  ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਗਿਆਨੁ  ਵੀਚਾਰਾ  ॥੨॥
ਪਸਰੀ  ਕਿਰਣਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਕਮਲ  ਬਿਗਾਸੇ  ਸਸਿ  ਘਰਿ  ਸੂਰੁ  ਸਮਾਇਆ  ॥
ਕਾਲੁ  ਬਿਧੁੰਸਿ  ਮਨਸਾ  ਮਨਿ  ਮਾਰੀ  ਗੁਰ  ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਪਾਇਆ  ॥੩॥
ਅਤਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਰੰਗਿ  ਚਲੂਲੈ  ਰਾਤੀ  ਦੂਜਾ  ਰੰਗੁ  ਨ  ਕੋਈ  ॥
ਨਾਨਕ  ਰਸਨਿ  ਰਸਾਏ  ਰਾਤੇ  ਰਵਿ  ਰਹਿਆ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਸੋਈ  ॥੪॥੧੫॥
The shabad is referring to the process when "The Shabad" permanently resides in the Mind, then one tastes the real Amrit stored in the Crown Chakra. In other words, it is suggesting the last point in the journey to be outside of Time and Space. Crown Chakra is also known as the place of 1000 Suns which is so strong yet so calming that it (the light/ray) overtakes everything. The shabad has nowhere mentioned the Heart Chakra or Eclipse.
Moreover, in reality Astronomy and Astrology are exactly the same Science (Macro/Micro/Effects) but recenty (around 16-17th century) when people started accepting more materialistic views, this Science was broken into 2 different streams: Astrology and Astronomy. It's the same way, these days there are Specialist Doctors for each organ and they just worry about their particular organ; they do NOT understand that each and every cell in this body is interrelated and interlinked and work as ONE BIG SYSTEM.
Moreover, here are some clues to the play of 3 gunas and 5 elements in Space and Time:
Seven is a clue for everything that happens in Time. 7 comes from 3+4 (3 gunas + 4 elements). i.e 7 Traditional planets; 7 Major Chakras; 7 Rishis, and so on. Twelve is a clue for all things that co-exist in space. 12 comes from 3*4 (play of 3 gunas with 4 basic elements in Space). These are the twelve basic points with which everything in space is connected. It is possible to find the right way by connecting the spatial relationship of everything that occurs upon the earth with twelve permanent points in space — the twelve signs of the Zodiac in the cosmos. And there is always certain relation between the numbers Seven and Twelve, and that this relation has something to do with time and space. Time is revealed according to the number Twelve. The above mentioned points are the core of Astrology. It's very easy to say but very hard to understand the play of 12*7=84.
But at last, let me warm you that there are VERY RARE astrologers who fully understand Astrology and Astronomy in real sense but at the same time it does NOT mean that Sikhism is against Astrology. But do NOT try to find paid astrologers and do NOT try to look in Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the intention to find the reference to astrology and then proving that it is accepted in Sikhism. As I always say, this world is never Black-and-White.
Rudolf Steiner has said this perfectly: "Humanity, is intimately connected to cosmic beings, who in turn are related to planets and stars. There is meaning in the cosmos." He rejected the Simplistic notion of the planets determining our lives and behaviour, he shows that as individuals, and with the guidance of spiritual beings, we choose an appropriate time of birth to match the destiny we are to live.
In other words, when we reduce the systems (create Simplistic views separate from another system), then we are bound to fail and this is what is happening with Astrology these days (so-called Zodiac readings).
 

Does it mean that tenth Guru have established an institution which will give benefit to whosoever follows it (even on physical level) but will NOT give that kind of benefit to those who do not follow them?
Isn't this like Christianity who says that whosoever follows Jesus Christ won't have to go to Hell because Jesus have paid for their sins?
Actually, as per my understanding, there is some truth to what pappiman has mentioned.
e.g A person has taken Khanda Da Amrit and then did not follow anything Spititually and ended up doing lot of bad karams. Then the thing is that: His/Her Guru will not allow that person to go to Hell or will not allow the beating along the path to Dharamraj but he/she has to pay for his/her bad deeds via human birth in bad environment (but still human birth with possibility of Spiritual growth). Sometimes, Guru DOES allow that person to go to Hell or force them to take birth in animal world but Guru will always cut short his animal births because he was follower of his faith. Bottom line is: Guru will lend HIS helping hand to the SOUL who has gone astray. Persons without Guru won't have that kind of cushion.
There are various Sakhis portraying that:
Sakhi-1: There was a Sikh of tenth Guru who was performing the duty of Parshad distribution in the sangat. One day, another Sikh of high Spiritual came to the Sangat to get parshad; he requested parshad in hurry but the dutyman said harshly "Why you're jumping like bear?" To this the other person picked the parshad from the ground and left. Now, when the dutyman left the world, he was born as bear. But after some time, the bear's life was cut short by GuruJi; thus displaying the power of Guru.
Also, remember, each Avatar has its own Heaven and the persons worshiping Him as God cannot go beyond the realm of that demi-God.
But some people take it too strictly saying that as they have taken Amrit, so they won't suffer and they are bound to get benefits. It's not that simple. Mind has to be purified before one can be with HIM, but at the same time the path to real God goes via Guru (and nothing else) and if you follow Guru, then you DO have some cushion because of it.
Think it from another point of view: What's the use of Guru if HE cannot help the Soul who has done bad deeds under the effect of Maya. But at the same time, even Guru cannot go against the law of karma but HE knows how to go around the karma for the sake of his pupil's Soul. At last, it is not black and white and cannot be explained in words.