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I don't think Jesus reached Sachkhand in one go. He might hv taken birth in some gursikh family and after that must hv reached Sachkhand.

What you know about Jesus is heavily influenced by what his followers wanted you to know. The bible is just the ‘best bits’ as decided by those who compiled the new testament. Many parts were left out on purpose for subjective reasons.
Just look at the Infancy Gospel of Thomas if you don’t believe me…..
Christism and Islam are just overgrown  deras. Their founders aren’t worthy of Sachkhand. 

Listening to Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohana on the live classes. He says when doing simran jn the morning not to go into sunn. Listen to the shabad, if/when you feel like you maybe entering sunn then start antargat simran and that will help. Afternoon/evening time he says its fine to listen to the shabad and go into sunn. Same as what Bhai Amrik Singh Shadihari says on his telegram group

DefInitely would be good and an early sign that the new govt means what it says when it talks about cleaning up corruption/injustice. 
 
i dont know how the whole political scene out there works, whether its uptoo Punjab govt to release him or upto Delhi. If its controlled by Punjab then its a good early opportunity for the govt to make a good impression. 

DefInitely would be good and an early sign that the new govt means what it says when it talks about cleaning up corruption/injustice. 
 
i dont know how the whole political scene out there works, whether its uptoo Punjab govt to release him or upto Delhi. If its controlled by Punjab then its a good early opportunity for the govt to make a good impression. 

Is there potentially more chance of him being released now with the new Punjab govt?

DefInitely would be good and an early sign that the new govt means what it says when it talks about cleaning up corruption/injustice. 
 
i dont know how the whole political scene out there works, whether its uptoo Punjab govt to release him or upto Delhi. If its controlled by Punjab then its a good early opportunity for the govt to make a good impression. 

Is there potentially more chance of him being released now with the new Punjab govt?

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The 2 links are the same. Are they 2 different groups?
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Thank you paji for the response. What you have said all makes sense however I do have 1 question still.
Regarding the point about those with perfect destiny will unite with Waheguru. I dont and cant doubt Waheguru but maybe my small mind isnt understanding this correctly.
As in my example. The particular person has only now paid attention to what the gurmukh has been saying and has started doing sangat and abhiyas. So if we say he has the perfect destiny but only the gurmukh can see it hence the reason he has put so much time and effort in trying to convince this person to attend sangat.
on the other hand, you have the other person who may not have perfect destiny therefore not destined to meet Waheguru yet he tries his hardest to live life the correct way, does his abhiyas, does sangat, follows anything that a gurmukh may say straightaway and has a yearning to meet Waheguru but just because of past kamai and not having the perfect destiny he is not meant to meet Waheguru? 

Is this fair?
Someone that has no appreciation gets everything but the one that tries day and night doesnt even get a look in because hes not meant to?
Again maybe i have completely misunderstood, maybe because i have been more and more disheartened the last few weeks so im thinking more negative. However i have heard this concept of perfect destiny before and i admit i do not fully understand.
bhul chuk maaf.
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I just wanted to hear experiences of those who have had or have amrit ras.
When did you first get it, at what stage etc.
With Wahegurus grace, I have been hearing anhad shabad for the last 8 months or so but I have never experienced amrit. I have heard gurmukhs talk about it and have heard katha. Different people say it happens at various stages but I would love to hear peoples experiences.
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Not true. Anyone can chant gods name, amritdhari or non amritdhari. There are no restrictions. Were bhagat Kabir and bhagat Farid amritdhari?
And Waheguru is the only one that can give you naam.
not sure of the ang off hand but SGGS ji says. Bin naame mukt na pavai koi, bin satgur ko naam na pavai. There is no liberation without naam and no naam without waheguru.

We will have to agree to disagree. 
 
Waheguru is the same for all. Gurbani says he calls all of us regardless of caste colour, amritdhari or not. Putting restrictions on who can or cant chant his name is totally against SGGS ji teachings and no video will convince me otherwise but feel free to carry on telling people who can and cant chant his name. 
 
sometimes these things can be made far more complicated than they need to be, your post is an example of this.

Im with Bhai Simranjit all the way although I have not listened to the other clip yet. The thing with chautha padh is that nothing is physical so seeing faces of the gurus whilst doing abhiyas isnt necessarily a good thing and from what bhai Seva Singh used to say, its just kaal playing tricks on you. Same as if you see different coloured lights.
I will listen to the other clip too.

Yes massive fan here too. Always been an India fan and massive Tendulkar fan back in the day. Mid 90’s there was no other sight like watching him bat and the crowd going berserk!

Yea that was Inzamam Ul Haq. Great batsman, not so great fielder. I think there is a clip on youtube where he goes into the crowd with his bat to hit a fan as he kept calling him a potato!

The links have been posted already but I would encourage everyone to join Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohanas telegram group. 2 live sessions a day, 14:30pm and 12:30 midnight. The katha is then recorded and uploaded to the group but the jugtian bhai saab explains and goes through with the sangat are not always uploaded so if you can, you really need to join the voice chat live especially the early morning one.
I would also join bhai Amril Singh Shahdihari groups on telegram. Again, plenty of live akath katha and q&a sessions.
Anhad shabads, sehaj dhun, amrit ras and other stages are all explained in detail.
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Yes massive fan here too. Always been an India fan and massive Tendulkar fan back in the day. Mid 90’s there was no other sight like watching him bat and the crowd going berserk!

Yea that was Inzamam Ul Haq. Great batsman, not so great fielder. I think there is a clip on youtube where he goes into the crowd with his bat to hit a fan as he kept calling him a potato!

Listening to Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohana on the live classes. He says when doing simran jn the morning not to go into sunn. Listen to the shabad, if/when you feel like you maybe entering sunn then start antargat simran and that will help. Afternoon/evening time he says its fine to listen to the shabad and go into sunn. Same as what Bhai Amrik Singh Shadihari says on his telegram group

For all of those blessed ones who keep on trying walking on the spiritual path with faith and courage, following is an inspirational message:

Listening to Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohana on the live classes. He says when doing simran jn the morning not to go into sunn. Listen to the shabad, if/when you feel like you maybe entering sunn then start antargat simran and that will help. Afternoon/evening time he says its fine to listen to the shabad and go into sunn. Same as what Bhai Amrik Singh Shadihari says on his telegram group

Listening to Bhai Simranjit Singh Tohana on the live classes. He says when doing simran jn the morning not to go into sunn. Listen to the shabad, if/when you feel like you maybe entering sunn then start antargat simran and that will help. Afternoon/evening time he says its fine to listen to the shabad and go into sunn. Same as what Bhai Amrik Singh Shadihari says on his telegram group

We will have to agree to disagree. 
 
Waheguru is the same for all. Gurbani says he calls all of us regardless of caste colour, amritdhari or not. Putting restrictions on who can or cant chant his name is totally against SGGS ji teachings and no video will convince me otherwise but feel free to carry on telling people who can and cant chant his name. 
 
sometimes these things can be made far more complicated than they need to be, your post is an example of this.

Not true. Anyone can chant gods name, amritdhari or non amritdhari. There are no restrictions. Were bhagat Kabir and bhagat Farid amritdhari?
And Waheguru is the only one that can give you naam.
not sure of the ang off hand but SGGS ji says. Bin naame mukt na pavai koi, bin satgur ko naam na pavai. There is no liberation without naam and no naam without waheguru.